'Palestinian'

[rylah]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

This is silly the original Chistians were a sect of Jews, they wrote in Hebrew. They didn't need Greek translations of the Torah.

But when was the first translation of the Quran to Hebrew written?

Only the clerics knew Hebrew. The language spoken was Aramaic. the Christians did not need to translate the Torah.

The Bible, Hebrews 8:13

"By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

And what language was the book of Hebrews written in?

You repeat the same verse everywhere but don't understand that the book of Hebrews is the easiest to show that it was written for those who knew no Aramaic or Hebrew, for those who could NOT read the original Hebrew Torah.

 

[rylah]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

And yet Jews kept Hebrew as the basis for all those 'widely spoken' languages.

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

And yet Jews kept Hebrew as the basis for all those 'widely spoken' languages.

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

Hebrew doesn't owe anything to Arabic. They are both Semitic languages with similar words and phrasing (Shalom Aleichem, Salaam Aleikum), but who's to say which one is older? (I tend to think Hebrew is older.) Modern Hebrew has borrowed more words from English.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

And yet Jews kept Hebrew as the basis for all those 'widely spoken' languages.

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

Eliezer Ben-Yehuda revived Hebrew as a widely-spoken language, but that doesn't mean that Hebrew was completely dead and used only in prayer. Correspondences and religious texts were still written by rabbis such as Maimonides and Nachmonides throughout the long years of Exile.

 

[Challenger]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

And yet Jews kept Hebrew as the basis for all those 'widely spoken' languages.

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

And there are whole libraries of books in Europe written in Latin and Greek, a language only used by clerics and scholars, not the general populations of te countries that house them, it's another Zionist myth that "Hebrew" was widely spoken amongst the Jewish populations of Europe and elsewhere. Immigrants to the new Zionist paradise had to learn modern Hebrew from scratch. Why would Palestinians "easily and instantaneously" forget a language that hadn't been in use for centuries?

As for fusing Hebrew with local languages, please. Every language has "loan words" from other languages, English has many, many, words derived from Latin and Greek, for example.

 

[Challenger]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

And yet Jews kept Hebrew as the basis for all those 'widely spoken' languages.

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

Eliezer Ben-Yehuda revived Hebrew as a widely-spoken language, but that doesn't mean that Hebrew was completely dead and used only in prayer. Correspondences and religious texts were still written by rabbis such as Maimonides and Nachmonides throughout the long years of Exile.

His real name was Eliezer Perlman, a newspaperman who became a Zionist and invented a new version of "hebrew", much of which was based on standard modern Arabic. It wasn't widely spoken until it became compulsory for all immigrants to Palestine, and there was no exile; that's yet another Zionist myth, debunked long ago.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

And yet Jews kept Hebrew as the basis for all those 'widely spoken' languages.

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

And there are whole libraries of books in Europe written in Latin and Greek, a language only used by clerics and scholars, not the general populations of te countries that house them, it's another Zionist myth that "Hebrew" was widely spoken amongst the Jewish populations of Europe and elsewhere. Immigrants to the new Zionist paradise had to learn modern Hebrew from scratch. Why would Palestinians "easily and instantaneously" forget a language that hadn't been in use for centuries?

As for fusing Hebrew with local languages, please. Every language has "loan words" from other languages, English has many, many, words derived from Latin and Greek, for example.

I think it's widely known that the Jews of Europe spoke Yiddish and not Hebrew.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

This is silly the original Chistians were a sect of Jews, they wrote in Hebrew. They didn't need Greek translations of the Torah.

But when was the first translation of the Quran to Hebrew written?

Only the clerics knew Hebrew. The language spoken was Aramaic. the Christians did not need to translate the Torah.

The Bible, Hebrews 8:13

"By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

You keep on quoting that ONE verse from the New Testament. How about the multitude of verses in the New Testament that refer back to stories and personalities from the Old Testament?

 

[montelatici]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

This is silly the original Chistians were a sect of Jews, they wrote in Hebrew. They didn't need Greek translations of the Torah.

But when was the first translation of the Quran to Hebrew written?

Only the clerics knew Hebrew. The language spoken was Aramaic. the Christians did not need to translate the Torah.

The Bible, Hebrews 8:13

"By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

You keep on quoting that ONE verse from the New Testament. How about the multitude of verses in the New Testament that refer back to stories and personalities from the Old Testament?

I suspect you are not familiar with the Bible. It is not just that verse, there are many others. For example:

"Hear me, all of you, and understand: there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him." And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him, since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.) (Mark 7:14-19)"

 

[rylah]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

This is silly the original Chistians were a sect of Jews, they wrote in Hebrew. They didn't need Greek translations of the Torah.

But when was the first translation of the Quran to Hebrew written?

Only the clerics knew Hebrew. The language spoken was Aramaic. the Christians did not need to translate the Torah.

The Bible, Hebrews 8:13

"By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

You keep on quoting that ONE verse from the New Testament. How about the multitude of verses in the New Testament that refer back to stories and personalities from the Old Testament?

I suspect you are not familiar with the Bible. It is not just that verse, there are many others. For example:

"Hear me, all of you, and understand: there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him." And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him, since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.) (Mark 7:14-19)"

The same Mark that used to quote from Malachi, Isaiah, Exodus, Leviticus , Genesis, Psalms and more which You claim to be 'fairytale'?

Indeed there's a lot to quote from the New Testament that's against the Jews. All church fathers were against Jews and they wrote whole books using forged verses from the Torah to justify it.
In some occasions they even left the fingerprints...like the book of Hebrews.

Anyway trying to push Greco-Roman culture as 'Palestinian' culture - simply proves my point - that anything presented as 'PALESTINIAN', is foreign to the land, either Roman, Greek or Arabian.

 

[rylah]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

And yet Jews kept Hebrew as the basis for all those 'widely spoken' languages.

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

And there are whole libraries of books in Europe written in Latin and Greek, a language only used by clerics and scholars, not the general populations of te countries that house them, it's another Zionist myth that "Hebrew" was widely spoken amongst the Jewish populations of Europe and elsewhere. Immigrants to the new Zionist paradise had to learn modern Hebrew from scratch. Why would Palestinians "easily and instantaneously" forget a language that hadn't been in use for centuries?

As for fusing Hebrew with local languages, please. Every language has "loan words" from other languages, English has many, many, words derived from Latin and Greek, for example.

You're fighting straw-men here. Nobody is saying Hebrew was widely spoken among the diaspora. However the Hebrew alphabet was used on a daily basis, from Yemen to Russia in writing the local languages, be it Judeo-Arabic or Yiddish.

It's not that 'every language has borrowed words', every local language Jews used was fused with Hebrew alphabet and words that didn't exist in those languages. Some Hebrew words even became the slang in the countries of the diaspora.

Here are some examples of legal documents written in both English and Hebrew, that deal with legal and financial issues:

"A record of testimony which took place before us, the undersigned, on Tuesday, on the twenty third day of the month | 2 of Sivan of the year five thousand twenty two of the creation of the world according to the computation that we count here, in the town of Nottingham. | 3 How Abraham ben R. Jacob came before us and said to us: Be my witnesses, perform with me a qinyan, write and sign according to | 4 all the right terms of law, and give to my grandfather, R. Abraham ben Master Joseph Crespin"

" I, Solomon ben Yose release the prior and the priests of St. Trinity | 2 of Canterbury three measures and a half of land called ‘acres’, which lie | 3 in the town of Ickham, that they have acquired from Yves de Molin and from Mabila his wife, and I and my heirs | 4 cannot claim anything on this aforementioned land, by reason of any debt that this | 5 Yves and Mabila owe to me from the creation of the world until its end."

Hebrew and Hebrew-Latin Documents from Medieval England: A Diplomatic and Palaeographical Study

 

[Roudy]

The Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was an independent state in Palestine with Jerusalem as its capital. There is not much to differentiate a Colombian from a Panamanian, yet they are separate nationalities. Same for Tunisia and Libya. However, the people of Palestine were different enough from the surrounding people (a large Christian population) so that the Ottomans created the Kudus Special District (encompassing Palestine) ruled directly from Istanbul rather than from the Syrian administrative district.

Was that after the invasion by the colonizing xtian Crusaders?

What hypocricy by monte!! The Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was a legal country but not the modern state of Israel? The current Jews are colonizers but the Christian Crusaders were not?

As for your other assertion, Lebanon was separated from Syria because of its large Christian population (which the Muslims have since decimated), but that was not the case with Palestine.

Where have I said that the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was a legal state and Israel is not? You must be confusing me with someone else.

The Crusaders were not settler colonists, they arrived to rule over the existing native inhabitants, like the Arabs and Romans did. The Zionists expelled the native inhabitants, to settle their population there. There is a difference.

Palestine had a large Christian population before the Zionists arrived, as many as 20% were Christian. And, the Kudus Special District (Palestine) was ruled directly from Istanbul, unlike Syria. It's just an historical fact.

Lebanon was split from Syria by the French, not the Ottomans, get your history straight.

Ha ha ha! It said "the Crusaders 'arrived' to rule over..."!
Never in my life have I seen someone so full of ignorance and hate.

What do you think the Crusaders did, if not rule? What do you think the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem did, organize picnics? You continue to make a fool of yourself.

The crusaders didn't "arrive", they INVADED, raped, looted, pillaged, enslaved, destroyed, and basically did everything that Arab Muslim invaders did. You didn't know?

 

[Challenger]

Of course the native people preferred languages that were widely spoken over their native Aramaic. (Hebrew was a liturgical language like Latin is today). They converted to Christianity, why would they want to learn Hebrew. Very few people practiced anything but Christianity in the Empire once it became the required state religion.

And yet Jews kept Hebrew as the basis for all those 'widely spoken' languages.

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

And there are whole libraries of books in Europe written in Latin and Greek, a language only used by clerics and scholars, not the general populations of te countries that house them, it's another Zionist myth that "Hebrew" was widely spoken amongst the Jewish populations of Europe and elsewhere. Immigrants to the new Zionist paradise had to learn modern Hebrew from scratch. Why would Palestinians "easily and instantaneously" forget a language that hadn't been in use for centuries?

As for fusing Hebrew with local languages, please. Every language has "loan words" from other languages, English has many, many, words derived from Latin and Greek, for example.

You're fighting straw-men here. Nobody is saying Hebrew was widely spoken among the diaspora. However the Hebrew alphabet was used on a daily basis, from Yemen to Russia in writing the local languages, be it Judeo-Arabic or Yiddish.

It's not that 'every language has borrowed words', every local language Jews used was fused with Hebrew alphabet and words that didn't exist in those languages. Some Hebrew words even became the slang in the countries of the diaspora.

Here are some examples of legal documents written in both English and Hebrew, that deal with legal and financial issues:

View attachment 135296

"A record of testimony which took place before us, the undersigned, on Tuesday, on the twenty third day of the month | 2 of Sivan of the year five thousand twenty two of the creation of the world according to the computation that we count here, in the town of Nottingham. | 3 How Abraham ben R. Jacob came before us and said to us: Be my witnesses, perform with me a qinyan, write and sign according to | 4 all the right terms of law, and give to my grandfather, R. Abraham ben Master Joseph Crespin"

View attachment 135295

" I, Solomon ben Yose release the prior and the priests of St. Trinity | 2 of Canterbury three measures and a half of land called ‘acres’, which lie | 3 in the town of Ickham, that they have acquired from Yves de Molin and from Mabila his wife, and I and my heirs | 4 cannot claim anything on this aforementioned land, by reason of any debt that this | 5 Yves and Mabila owe to me from the creation of the world until its end."

Hebrew and Hebrew-Latin Documents from Medieval England: A Diplomatic and Palaeographical Study

Talking of strawmen, what alphabet are you using to type your posts in English? Latin. Persians adopted the Arabic alphabet but still wrote in Farsi. All languages evolve, except modern "hebrew" which is an artificial construct invented in the late 19th century.

 

[louie888]

...All languages evolve, except modern "hebrew" which is an artificial construct invented in the late 19th century.

I have not read this whole thread as it is yet another of their attempts to erase Palestine and the Palestinian people, but would you be kind enough to explain to me what you mean here?

 

[rylah]

And yet Jews kept Hebrew as the basis for all those 'widely spoken' languages.

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

And there are whole libraries of books in Europe written in Latin and Greek, a language only used by clerics and scholars, not the general populations of te countries that house them, it's another Zionist myth that "Hebrew" was widely spoken amongst the Jewish populations of Europe and elsewhere. Immigrants to the new Zionist paradise had to learn modern Hebrew from scratch. Why would Palestinians "easily and instantaneously" forget a language that hadn't been in use for centuries?

As for fusing Hebrew with local languages, please. Every language has "loan words" from other languages, English has many, many, words derived from Latin and Greek, for example.

You're fighting straw-men here. Nobody is saying Hebrew was widely spoken among the diaspora. However the Hebrew alphabet was used on a daily basis, from Yemen to Russia in writing the local languages, be it Judeo-Arabic or Yiddish.

It's not that 'every language has borrowed words', every local language Jews used was fused with Hebrew alphabet and words that didn't exist in those languages. Some Hebrew words even became the slang in the countries of the diaspora.

Here are some examples of legal documents written in both English and Hebrew, that deal with legal and financial issues:

View attachment 135296

"A record of testimony which took place before us, the undersigned, on Tuesday, on the twenty third day of the month | 2 of Sivan of the year five thousand twenty two of the creation of the world according to the computation that we count here, in the town of Nottingham. | 3 How Abraham ben R. Jacob came before us and said to us: Be my witnesses, perform with me a qinyan, write and sign according to | 4 all the right terms of law, and give to my grandfather, R. Abraham ben Master Joseph Crespin"

View attachment 135295

" I, Solomon ben Yose release the prior and the priests of St. Trinity | 2 of Canterbury three measures and a half of land called ‘acres’, which lie | 3 in the town of Ickham, that they have acquired from Yves de Molin and from Mabila his wife, and I and my heirs | 4 cannot claim anything on this aforementioned land, by reason of any debt that this | 5 Yves and Mabila owe to me from the creation of the world until its end."

Hebrew and Hebrew-Latin Documents from Medieval England: A Diplomatic and Palaeographical Study

Talking of strawmen, what alphabet are you using to type your posts in English? Latin. Persians adopted the Arabic alphabet but still wrote in Farsi. All languages evolve, except modern "hebrew" which is an artificial construct invented in the late 19th century.

You're trying to blur the fact that Jews throughout the diaspora kept using Hebrew, retained its' alphabet and basic form. The fact that Hebrew fused Aramaic, Arabic or Western words is irrelevant. It's what has been retained, and that is the basic Hebrew language, in structure and form.

The same documents I've presented can be read by the average Israeli kid with ease, as any other Jewish kid in the diaspora who learned both Hebrew, Aramaic AND the local language. It's just how Jews taught their kids. Even Ben-Gurion studied in a Heider like most Jewish kids in the diaspora.

It's a Jewish tradition to teach Your kids Hebrew letters using honeyץ You put some honey on a picture of a letter, and let the kid lick it after pronouncing it - on the first day of Jewish school.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The modern Israeli "Hebrew" language was invented in the late 19th century by a Jewish Belarussian Zionist who thought it would help in the creation of a "Jewish national identity". Modern "Hebrew" owes more to modern standard Arabic than any other language.

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

And there are whole libraries of books in Europe written in Latin and Greek, a language only used by clerics and scholars, not the general populations of te countries that house them, it's another Zionist myth that "Hebrew" was widely spoken amongst the Jewish populations of Europe and elsewhere. Immigrants to the new Zionist paradise had to learn modern Hebrew from scratch. Why would Palestinians "easily and instantaneously" forget a language that hadn't been in use for centuries?

As for fusing Hebrew with local languages, please. Every language has "loan words" from other languages, English has many, many, words derived from Latin and Greek, for example.

You're fighting straw-men here. Nobody is saying Hebrew was widely spoken among the diaspora. However the Hebrew alphabet was used on a daily basis, from Yemen to Russia in writing the local languages, be it Judeo-Arabic or Yiddish.

It's not that 'every language has borrowed words', every local language Jews used was fused with Hebrew alphabet and words that didn't exist in those languages. Some Hebrew words even became the slang in the countries of the diaspora.

Here are some examples of legal documents written in both English and Hebrew, that deal with legal and financial issues:

View attachment 135296

"A record of testimony which took place before us, the undersigned, on Tuesday, on the twenty third day of the month | 2 of Sivan of the year five thousand twenty two of the creation of the world according to the computation that we count here, in the town of Nottingham. | 3 How Abraham ben R. Jacob came before us and said to us: Be my witnesses, perform with me a qinyan, write and sign according to | 4 all the right terms of law, and give to my grandfather, R. Abraham ben Master Joseph Crespin"

View attachment 135295

" I, Solomon ben Yose release the prior and the priests of St. Trinity | 2 of Canterbury three measures and a half of land called ‘acres’, which lie | 3 in the town of Ickham, that they have acquired from Yves de Molin and from Mabila his wife, and I and my heirs | 4 cannot claim anything on this aforementioned land, by reason of any debt that this | 5 Yves and Mabila owe to me from the creation of the world until its end."

Hebrew and Hebrew-Latin Documents from Medieval England: A Diplomatic and Palaeographical Study

Talking of strawmen, what alphabet are you using to type your posts in English? Latin. Persians adopted the Arabic alphabet but still wrote in Farsi. All languages evolve, except modern "hebrew" which is an artificial construct invented in the late 19th century.

You're trying to blur the fact that Jews throughout the diaspora kept using Hebrew, retained its' alphabet and basic form. The fact that Hebrew fused Aramaic, Arabic or Western words is irrelevant. It's what has been retained, and that is the basic Hebrew language, in structure and form.

The same documents I've presented can be read by the average Israeli kid with ease, as any other Jewish kid in the diaspora who learned both Hebrew, Aramaic AND the local language. It's just how Jews taught their kids. Even Ben-Gurion studied in a Heider like most Jewish kids in the diaspora.

It's a Jewish tradition to teach Your kids Hebrew letters using honeyץ You put some honey on a picture of a letter, and let the kid lick it after pronouncing it - on the first day of Jewish school.

Why? Because learning the Hebrew letters and alphabet is as sweet as honey.

 

[THAI EXPAT]

Even the Nazi's thought a Jewish homeland was a good idea!

The Madagascar plan was a suggested policy of the Third Reich government of Nazi Germany to forcibly relocate the Jewish population of Europe to the island of Madagascar.[14]


Madagascar lies off the east coast of Africa
The evacuation of European Jewry to the island of Madagascar was not a new concept. Henry Hamilton Beamish, Arnold Leese, Lord Moyne, German scholar Paul de Lagarde and the British, French, and Polish governments had all contemplated the idea.[14] Nazi Germany seized upon it, and in May 1940, in his Reflections on the Treatment of Peoples of Alien Races in the East, Heinrich Himmler declared: "I hope that the concept of Jews will be completely extinguished through the possibility of a large emigration of all Jews to Africa or some other colony."

Although some discussion of this plan had been brought forward from 1938 by other well-known Nazi ideologues, such as Julius Streicher, Hermann Göring, and Joachim von Ribbentrop, it was not until June 1940 that the plan was actually set in motion. As victory in France was imminent, it was clear that all French colonies would soon come under German control, and the Madagascar Plan could be realized. It was also felt that a potential peace treaty with Great Britain would put the British navy at Germany's disposal for use in the evacuation.

With Adolf Hitler's approval, Adolf Eichmann released a memorandum on 15 August 1940 calling for the resettlement of a million Jews per year for four years, with the island governed as a police state under the SS. The plan was postponed after the Germans failed to defeat the British in the Battle of Britain later in 1940 and was permanently shelved in 1942 with the commencement of the Final Solution.
Proposals for a Jewish state - Wikipedia

 

[louie888]

Even the Nazi's thought a Jewish homeland was a good idea!

Not only that, they conspired directly with the zionists to accomplish this!

No joke...

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis: Lenni Brenner: 9781569804339: Amazon.com: Books

All the above documents were collected and compiled by the well respected Jewish author/historian, Lenni Brenner.

 

[rylah]

All this Nazi memorabilia is so relevant to the definition of 'Palestinian'.
I'm glad this appears here on every other page.

Should we also discuss the most famous foreign bestseller (the one with the funny mustache on the cover) in the Arab world?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

And yet Jews have libraries full of books written throughout millenias using the language You claim was invented just recently.

While Jews kept fusing Hebrew with all local languages in the diaspora, Palestinians somehow easily and instantaneously forgot about it, preferring Greek and Arabic.

And there are whole libraries of books in Europe written in Latin and Greek, a language only used by clerics and scholars, not the general populations of te countries that house them, it's another Zionist myth that "Hebrew" was widely spoken amongst the Jewish populations of Europe and elsewhere. Immigrants to the new Zionist paradise had to learn modern Hebrew from scratch. Why would Palestinians "easily and instantaneously" forget a language that hadn't been in use for centuries?

As for fusing Hebrew with local languages, please. Every language has "loan words" from other languages, English has many, many, words derived from Latin and Greek, for example.

You're fighting straw-men here. Nobody is saying Hebrew was widely spoken among the diaspora. However the Hebrew alphabet was used on a daily basis, from Yemen to Russia in writing the local languages, be it Judeo-Arabic or Yiddish.

It's not that 'every language has borrowed words', every local language Jews used was fused with Hebrew alphabet and words that didn't exist in those languages. Some Hebrew words even became the slang in the countries of the diaspora.

Here are some examples of legal documents written in both English and Hebrew, that deal with legal and financial issues:

View attachment 135296

"A record of testimony which took place before us, the undersigned, on Tuesday, on the twenty third day of the month | 2 of Sivan of the year five thousand twenty two of the creation of the world according to the computation that we count here, in the town of Nottingham. | 3 How Abraham ben R. Jacob came before us and said to us: Be my witnesses, perform with me a qinyan, write and sign according to | 4 all the right terms of law, and give to my grandfather, R. Abraham ben Master Joseph Crespin"

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" I, Solomon ben Yose release the prior and the priests of St. Trinity | 2 of Canterbury three measures and a half of land called ‘acres’, which lie | 3 in the town of Ickham, that they have acquired from Yves de Molin and from Mabila his wife, and I and my heirs | 4 cannot claim anything on this aforementioned land, by reason of any debt that this | 5 Yves and Mabila owe to me from the creation of the world until its end."

Hebrew and Hebrew-Latin Documents from Medieval England: A Diplomatic and Palaeographical Study

Talking of strawmen, what alphabet are you using to type your posts in English? Latin. Persians adopted the Arabic alphabet but still wrote in Farsi. All languages evolve, except modern "hebrew" which is an artificial construct invented in the late 19th century.

You're trying to blur the fact that Jews throughout the diaspora kept using Hebrew, retained its' alphabet and basic form. The fact that Hebrew fused Aramaic, Arabic or Western words is irrelevant. It's what has been retained, and that is the basic Hebrew language, in structure and form.

The same documents I've presented can be read by the average Israeli kid with ease, as any other Jewish kid in the diaspora who learned both Hebrew, Aramaic AND the local language. It's just how Jews taught their kids. Even Ben-Gurion studied in a Heider like most Jewish kids in the diaspora.

It's a Jewish tradition to teach Your kids Hebrew letters using honeyץ You put some honey on a picture of a letter, and let the kid lick it after pronouncing it - on the first day of Jewish school.

Why? Because learning the Hebrew letters and alphabet is as sweet as honey.

Really rylah, I read that's how the custom originated.