Palestinian identity ?

[Phoenall]

Nothing at all as I tell the truth that is very easy to find on the internet and in public library's

I will say you don't live in UK. And your language is english either. you know nothing.

Then youi prove you know nothing what so ever and need to get an English education

dumb just add "n" it become "neither". You are a trouble maker spreading hate and earning on it. Don't you think you are terrorist too. European parliament pass a bill against israeli goods and Israeli jews are unhappy.

Then why can I buy Israeli goods in my local EU supermarket, because the law is unworkable in a union with separate laws. No I am not a terrorist as I am not using violence to force my religion or politics on anyone else, unlike you muslims that do it daily all over the world. How is it hate to post the truth from Islamic sources like the koran and hadiths ?

Then why israel is not happy. You are not but yours little tongue is moron. And they might be hypocrite or 100 million missing jews.

The missing Jews were mass murdered by muslims, it is all in the Islamic history texts starting with the hadiths. They were terrorists from the very start as shown by the commands in the koran to "strike terror in the hearts of the unbelievers". The only morons are those that deny the words written down in the koran and hadiths that tell the muslims to KILL THE JEWS. And they have done so for the last 1400 years, which is why so few are alive today.

 

[Phoenall]

Rehmani, et al,

Oh come now! Is that really accurate? Is it really close to the truth?

(EXAMPLES)

What are these examples of?

• Spreading Hate
• Bring Hate
• Preventing Peace

Band #1:

Arab Palestinian leaders spread hate - Columbia Daily ...
www.columbiatribune.com/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/arab...
Jan 24, 2015 · Arab Palestinian leaders spread hate - Columbia Daily Tribune: Letters To The Editor Opinion ... Open Column Arab Palestinian leaders spread hate.

Pro-Palestinian students bring hate, intimidation to ...
www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/09/pro-palestinian-students-bring-hate...
Jun 09, 2014 · ... hateful rhetoric.Students for Justice in Palestine has ... Palestinian students bring hate, ... students in America uncomfortable on campus seems ...

How Palestinian Hate Prevents Peace - The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/2013/10/16/opinion/how-palestinian-hate-prevents...
Oct 15, 2013 · How Palestinian Hate Prevents Peace. By YUVAL STEINITZ ...Palestinian leaders must now reciprocate by immediately and fully halting their …
​

Band #2:

Hamas Rejects UN Textbooks for Teaching Non-Violence
www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-bashes-unrwas-human-rights-corriculum
... [in the books] refer to [Mahatma] Gandhi, Martin ... The Palestinian narrative was also ... the universal values that underpin the work of the United Nations. ...

6000 Boys Graduate Palestinian Islamic Jihad Terrorist ...
www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/6000-boys-graduate...
Aug 19, 2015 · The Iranian-backed Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist organization held a graduation ceremony Tuesday for the 6,000 Gaza boys who this summer attended …

Kid Jihad” Summer Training Camp: Blood, Fire & AK-47’s ...
patriotupdate.com/kid-jihad-summer-training-camp-blood-fire-ak-47s
Tens of thousands of Palestinian children hurried to register for Terrorists (summer) training camp 101 and to attend programs which indoctrinate the youngsters in ...

Camp Jihad’: U.N.-Sponsored Camps Encourage Palestinian ...
www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/14/camp-jihad-u-n-sponsored-camps...
Summer at United Nations-funded camps in Gaza and the northern West Bank include playing with parachutes, jumping on trampolines, and racing down inflatable slides.

Islamic Jihad's Summer of Radicalization :: The ...
www.investigativeproject.org/4046/islamic-jihad-summer-of...
Summer camp conjures up bucolic images of swimming and other outdoor fun. But thousands of Palestinian children will experience something quite different, as ...
​

Most Respectfully,
R

Look body you can't compare some one like phoney who is living in UK with people of Palestine who are facing terror last 70 years by the Israeli army with modern war machine followed by wii elite force support.
Be real Roccr.

The only terror is that faced by the JEWS from the arab muslims. they are only doing what a muslim has to do by the command of their false prophet and moon god. If they had not invaded in 1949 and tried to wipe out the Jews then they would not have been killed in vast numbers. If they did not fire illegal weapons from civilian areas that have been branded war crimes they would not see thousands of human shields killed in the backwash. They showed their intent in 2005 when Israel removed all Jews from gaza and the Palestinians increased the numbers and severity of the terrorist attacks.

Why Arab Muslim will kill jews in Holy land. Arab muslim they are the one who open the door for jew in holy land
and I will say that was wrong by arab muslim.

And then proceeded to massacre them all over the world, and the muslims are still trying to massacre Jews today. They give with one hand and then take by force with the other.

This is your quality you are talking about. Fool whole world is watching that Jews are killing innocent people in israel, dumb can't you see.

No I cant, and nor can 70% of the worlds population, what they do see is terrorists and violent scum are being killed in war. They see the illegal rockets fired at Israeli children and the muslims rejoicing every time one hits Israel. They see the mass murders of innocents by muslims all over the world, and the muslims having a party every time they kill another innocent. They see the Jordanian muslims firing live ammunition into prison camps in retribution for the Palestinians terrorist attacks and killing 20,000 to 50,000 Palestinians. That is more Palestinian murdered in one month by other muslims that Israel has killed in 67 years of warfare.. All proven to be true because it happened in living memory

 

[Phoenall]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

They have and that is why the Palestinians are kept under scrutiny and not allowed weapons. That is why Israel has armed itself to the max and will not hesitate to fire back at hamas and fatah

 

[Fishlore]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

They have and that is why the Palestinians are kept under scrutiny and not allowed weapons. That is why Israel has armed itself to the max and will not hesitate to fire back at hamas and fatah

The flaw in Likud's strategy is that the opposition is not a few million stateless Palestinians herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank, it is the entire Arab people supported by world opinion and a majority of the member nations in the UN.

Corollary to this fact, the Palestinian issue is not going to be resolved by gunfire but by political and economic pressure which neither Israel nor Palestine is able to resist. This would have happened years ago were it not for the USA blocking international effort in hopes of dictating terms favorable to the Jews in our self-appointed role as "honest broker." Nobody is buying that stuff any more, the rest is just a matter of time.

 

[Fishlore]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

Yet I remain optimistic about the longer term. Israel has a mutually beneficial role to play in the United States of Arabia, a role akin to that once enjoyed by Lebanon. The Israeli economy is profitably compatible with the surrounding Arab economies. Arab society has a long history of working out peaceful accommodations that are good for business. But a Western sort of Fort Apache perched on the al Aqsa mosque is essentially unsustainable.

 

[Phoenall]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

They have and that is why the Palestinians are kept under scrutiny and not allowed weapons. That is why Israel has armed itself to the max and will not hesitate to fire back at hamas and fatah

The flaw in Likud's strategy is that the opposition is not a few million stateless Palestinians herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank, it is the entire Arab people supported by world opinion and a majority of the member nations in the UN.

Corollary to this fact, the Palestinian issue is not going to be resolved by gunfire but by political and economic pressure which neither Israel nor Palestine is able to resist. This would have happened years ago were it not for the USA blocking international effort in hopes of dictating terms favorable to the Jews in our self-appointed role as "honest broker." Nobody is buying that stuff any more, the rest is just a matter of time.

If that was the case then the entire arab people would have invaded Israel with the majority of the UN member states at their side. They would be threatening Israel with nuclear weapons and bombing the Jews into extinction. So why isn't this happening, why aren't the arabs camped on Israels borders with their armies shooting anything that moves while the US, UK, France and Russia are doing high level flights and dropping bombs by the thousand on Israel.
Could it be that you are LYING and don't really have a clue as to what is happening in the M.E.

No nation or group of nations can impose their views on the Jews or the Palestinians without being in breach of the UN charter, IHL or the Geneva conventions. So your propaganda is a non starter and is straight from the Palestinian handbook of BLOOD LIBELS and LIES. The UN should be made to enforce existing international laws that gave the whole of Jewish Palestine to the Jews for their national home. And then evict the arab muslims that do not want to live in peace to a country of their choosing as part of that international law. As you say it is just a matter of time before the UN collapses and the Palestinians face destitution and starvation because the rest of the arab world is refusing to lift a finger to help them

 

[Phoenall]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

Yet I remain optimistic about the longer term. Israel has a mutually beneficial role to play in the United States of Arabia, a role akin to that once enjoyed by Lebanon. The Israeli economy is profitably compatible with the surrounding Arab economies. Arab society has a long history of working out peaceful accommodations that are good for business. But a Western sort of Fort Apache perched on the al Aqsa mosque is essentially unsustainable.

And we all saw what happened to Lebanon when the arab muslims decided that is was going to be an Islamic state, they destroyed its capital and mass murdered thousands of innocents. Now the indigenous people are held as slaves by the extremist muslims who are setting their sights on Israel next.

 

[Fishlore]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

Yet I remain optimistic about the longer term. Israel has a mutually beneficial role to play in the United States of Arabia, a role akin to that once enjoyed by Lebanon. The Israeli economy is profitably compatible with the surrounding Arab economies. Arab society has a long history of working out peaceful accommodations that are good for business. But a Western sort of Fort Apache perched on the al Aqsa mosque is essentially unsustainable.

And we all saw what happened to Lebanon when the arab muslims decided that is was going to be an Islamic state, they destroyed its capital and mass murdered thousands of innocents. Now the indigenous people are held as slaves by the extremist muslims who are setting their sights on Israel next.

Lebanon was part of Syria, much as Kuwait was part of Iraq. These colonial carve-ups tend to be inherently unstable. What destroyed Lebanon was Israel, a foreign body stabbed into the heart of Arabia which has produced the sort of infectious reaction such wounds always do.

The whole of the Levant is one of the most diverse and heterogenous parts of the Muslim world. Over the centuries, the Muslim record of minority toleration has been at least as good as that of Christendom. The disruptive invasion of Britain and France destroyed a social equilibrium that had taken generations to establish.

A similar phenomenon has taken pace across sub-Sahara Africa (and long before the rise of Boko Haram). Western imperialism has run like a roto-tiller across lands whose cultural, economic and religious patterns evolved over centuries. Strife among the shattered remnants of once-independent societies is the responsibility of the roto-tiller. Of course, Westerners are incapable of admitting that they have ever done anything wrong so elaborate schemes to blame the victims are the order of the day. We are the only ones who believe our lies.

 

[RoccoR]

Fishlore, et al,

Yes, most countries don't react well to intimidation. Since before Israeli Independence, the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) have issued threat after threat to bully, scare, coerce and intimidate people, cultures, nations and governments to affect the conduct of ruling or influential powers in the furtherance of political or social objectives. It is why we call them "unconventional" threats.

“We cannot forget that what’s happening in Gaza today (2014) will feed and fuel the desire for many more to join radical groups,”
--- Former FBI Director Robert Mueller --- ​

What we think of the Palestinians is partially reflected in the thought that: "In August 2014, the US Department of State designated the Mujahidin Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem, a Gaza-based umbrella group of jihadist organizations in the area, as a foreign terrorist organization, citing its claims of rocket attacks on southern Israel and the group’s announcement of allegiance to the Islamic State. While some may automatically automatically associate HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement) with Gaza, in fact, there are a number of nefarious Jihadist, Terrorist, Insurgents and hostile Asymmetric threats.

I'm quite sure that no regional country wants to release these threats without constraints or replace a country like Israel with a near failed state that has no reasonable expectation of success. Remember, Palestinians are parasitic. The will drain all the funds and potentials of a country and then turn towards other regional nation to sink their teeth into.

Times of Israel -- 2 DEC 15 -- BY REBECCA SHIMONI STOIL August 19, 2014
WASHINGTON — The US State Department designated an al-Qaeda affiliated group active in the Gaza Strip as a foreign terrorist organization Tuesday morning.
​

The flaw in Likud's strategy is that the opposition is not a few million stateless Palestinians herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank, it is the entire Arab people supported by world opinion and a majority of the member nations in the UN.

(COMMENT)

If the Palestinians are "herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank," then that is a Arab Palestinian leadership problem that has cascaded into a deliberate program NOT to improve the quality of life of ALL people in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"At its core, leadership is about people. Fundamental to this is that leaders take care of their people."
"The leader who sends the message that people don’t really matter will generally not be as successful in the long-run as the leader who is genuinely serious about taking care of his people."
------- No Yelling - The 9 secrets of Marine Corps Leadership You Must Know to Win in Business - Wally Adamchik​

The very lack of knowledge, skills and abilities manifested by the Palestinians represents a great incompetence --- that can manage the energies properly, generally produce a positive impact on the economy, standard of living, and the quality of life. That is not the fault of the Israelis.

Corollary to this fact, the Palestinian issue is not going to be resolved by gunfire but by political and economic pressure which neither Israel nor Palestine is able to resist. This would have happened years ago were it not for the USA blocking international effort in hopes of dictating terms favorable to the Jews in our self-appointed role as "honest broker." Nobody is buying that stuff any more, the rest is just a matter of time.

(COMMENT)

On most any political question, whether it be economically, militarily, commercially, or diplomatically, will have more than one vantage points and many points to consider before an intelligent decision on the best course of action is arrived at.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

Yet I remain optimistic about the longer term. Israel has a mutually beneficial role to play in the United States of Arabia, a role akin to that once enjoyed by Lebanon. The Israeli economy is profitably compatible with the surrounding Arab economies. Arab society has a long history of working out peaceful accommodations that are good for business. But a Western sort of Fort Apache perched on the al Aqsa mosque is essentially unsustainable.

And we all saw what happened to Lebanon when the arab muslims decided that is was going to be an Islamic state, they destroyed its capital and mass murdered thousands of innocents. Now the indigenous people are held as slaves by the extremist muslims who are setting their sights on Israel next.

Lebanon was part of Syria, much as Kuwait was part of Iraq. These colonial carve-ups tend to be inherently unstable. What destroyed Lebanon was Israel, a foreign body stabbed into the heart of Arabia which has produced the sort of infectious reaction such wounds always do.

The whole of the Levant is one of the most diverse and heterogenous parts of the Muslim world. Over the centuries, the Muslim record of minority toleration has been at least as good as that of Christendom. The disruptive invasion of Britain and France destroyed a social equilibrium that had taken generations to establish.

A similar phenomenon has taken pace across sub-Sahara Africa (and long before the rise of Boko Haram). Western imperialism has run like a roto-tiller across lands whose cultural, economic and religious patterns evolved over centuries. Strife among the shattered remnants of once-independent societies is the responsibility of the roto-tiller. Of course, Westerners are incapable of admitting that they have ever done anything wrong so elaborate schemes to blame the victims are the order of the day. We are the only ones who believe our lies.

 

[montelatici]

Fishlore, et al,

Yes, most countries don't react well to intimidation. Since before Israeli Independence, the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) have issued threat after threat to bully, scare, coerce and intimidate people, cultures, nations and governments to affect the conduct of ruling or influential powers in the furtherance of political or social objectives. It is why we call them "unconventional" threats.

“We cannot forget that what’s happening in Gaza today (2014) will feed and fuel the desire for many more to join radical groups,”
--- Former FBI Director Robert Mueller --- ​

What we think of the Palestinians is partially reflected in the thought that: "In August 2014, the US Department of State designated the Mujahidin Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem, a Gaza-based umbrella group of jihadist organizations in the area, as a foreign terrorist organization, citing its claims of rocket attacks on southern Israel and the group’s announcement of allegiance to the Islamic State. While some may automatically automatically associate HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement) with Gaza, in fact, there are a number of nefarious Jihadist, Terrorist, Insurgents and hostile Asymmetric threats.

I'm quite sure that no regional country wants to release these threats without constraints or replace a country like Israel with a near failed state that has no reasonable expectation of success. Remember, Palestinians are parasitic. The will drain all the funds and potentials of a country and then turn towards other regional nation to sink their teeth into.

Times of Israel -- 2 DEC 15 -- BY REBECCA SHIMONI STOIL August 19, 2014
WASHINGTON — The US State Department designated an al-Qaeda affiliated group active in the Gaza Strip as a foreign terrorist organization Tuesday morning.
​

The flaw in Likud's strategy is that the opposition is not a few million stateless Palestinians herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank, it is the entire Arab people supported by world opinion and a majority of the member nations in the UN.

(COMMENT)

If the Palestinians are "herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank," then that is a Arab Palestinian leadership problem that has cascaded into a deliberate program NOT to improve the quality of life of ALL people in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"At its core, leadership is about people. Fundamental to this is that leaders take care of their people."
"The leader who sends the message that people don’t really matter will generally not be as successful in the long-run as the leader who is genuinely serious about taking care of his people."
------- No Yelling - The 9 secrets of Marine Corps Leadership You Must Know to Win in Business - Wally Adamchik​

The very lack of knowledge, skills and abilities manifested by the Palestinians represents a great incompetence --- that can manage the energies properly, generally produce a positive impact on the economy, standard of living, and the quality of life. That is not the fault of the Israelis.

Corollary to this fact, the Palestinian issue is not going to be resolved by gunfire but by political and economic pressure which neither Israel nor Palestine is able to resist. This would have happened years ago were it not for the USA blocking international effort in hopes of dictating terms favorable to the Jews in our self-appointed role as "honest broker." Nobody is buying that stuff any more, the rest is just a matter of time.

(COMMENT)

On most any political question, whether it be economically, militarily, commercially, or diplomatically, will have more than one vantage points and many points to consider before an intelligent decision on the best course of action is arrived at.

Most Respectfully,
R

As most native people, the Palestinians were not that accepting of being colonized by Europeans after Ottoman rule. It is the ancestors of the Vicious Israeli Jewish Occupiers (VIJO) that issued threats of colonizing the area as early as 1899, well before the Balfour Declaration, as well as after.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Fishlore, et al,

Yes, most countries don't react well to intimidation. Since before Israeli Independence, the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) have issued threat after threat to bully, scare, coerce and intimidate people, cultures, nations and governments to affect the conduct of ruling or influential powers in the furtherance of political or social objectives. It is why we call them "unconventional" threats.

“We cannot forget that what’s happening in Gaza today (2014) will feed and fuel the desire for many more to join radical groups,”
--- Former FBI Director Robert Mueller --- ​

What we think of the Palestinians is partially reflected in the thought that: "In August 2014, the US Department of State designated the Mujahidin Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem, a Gaza-based umbrella group of jihadist organizations in the area, as a foreign terrorist organization, citing its claims of rocket attacks on southern Israel and the group’s announcement of allegiance to the Islamic State. While some may automatically automatically associate HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement) with Gaza, in fact, there are a number of nefarious Jihadist, Terrorist, Insurgents and hostile Asymmetric threats.

I'm quite sure that no regional country wants to release these threats without constraints or replace a country like Israel with a near failed state that has no reasonable expectation of success. Remember, Palestinians are parasitic. The will drain all the funds and potentials of a country and then turn towards other regional nation to sink their teeth into.

Times of Israel -- 2 DEC 15 -- BY REBECCA SHIMONI STOIL August 19, 2014
WASHINGTON — The US State Department designated an al-Qaeda affiliated group active in the Gaza Strip as a foreign terrorist organization Tuesday morning.
​

The flaw in Likud's strategy is that the opposition is not a few million stateless Palestinians herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank, it is the entire Arab people supported by world opinion and a majority of the member nations in the UN.

(COMMENT)

If the Palestinians are "herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank," then that is a Arab Palestinian leadership problem that has cascaded into a deliberate program NOT to improve the quality of life of ALL people in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"At its core, leadership is about people. Fundamental to this is that leaders take care of their people."
"The leader who sends the message that people don’t really matter will generally not be as successful in the long-run as the leader who is genuinely serious about taking care of his people."
------- No Yelling - The 9 secrets of Marine Corps Leadership You Must Know to Win in Business - Wally Adamchik​

The very lack of knowledge, skills and abilities manifested by the Palestinians represents a great incompetence --- that can manage the energies properly, generally produce a positive impact on the economy, standard of living, and the quality of life. That is not the fault of the Israelis.

Corollary to this fact, the Palestinian issue is not going to be resolved by gunfire but by political and economic pressure which neither Israel nor Palestine is able to resist. This would have happened years ago were it not for the USA blocking international effort in hopes of dictating terms favorable to the Jews in our self-appointed role as "honest broker." Nobody is buying that stuff any more, the rest is just a matter of time.

(COMMENT)

On most any political question, whether it be economically, militarily, commercially, or diplomatically, will have more than one vantage points and many points to consider before an intelligent decision on the best course of action is arrived at.

Most Respectfully,
R

or replace a country like Israel with a near failed state that has no reasonable expectation of success. Remember, Palestinians are parasitic.​

Of course Palestine did not need aid before Israel stole, bombed, and bulldozed their economic infrastructures.

 

[Phoenall]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

Yet I remain optimistic about the longer term. Israel has a mutually beneficial role to play in the United States of Arabia, a role akin to that once enjoyed by Lebanon. The Israeli economy is profitably compatible with the surrounding Arab economies. Arab society has a long history of working out peaceful accommodations that are good for business. But a Western sort of Fort Apache perched on the al Aqsa mosque is essentially unsustainable.

And we all saw what happened to Lebanon when the arab muslims decided that is was going to be an Islamic state, they destroyed its capital and mass murdered thousands of innocents. Now the indigenous people are held as slaves by the extremist muslims who are setting their sights on Israel next.

Lebanon was part of Syria, much as Kuwait was part of Iraq. These colonial carve-ups tend to be inherently unstable. What destroyed Lebanon was Israel, a foreign body stabbed into the heart of Arabia which has produced the sort of infectious reaction such wounds always do.

The whole of the Levant is one of the most diverse and heterogenous parts of the Muslim world. Over the centuries, the Muslim record of minority toleration has been at least as good as that of Christendom. The disruptive invasion of Britain and France destroyed a social equilibrium that had taken generations to establish.

A similar phenomenon has taken pace across sub-Sahara Africa (and long before the rise of Boko Haram). Western imperialism has run like a roto-tiller across lands whose cultural, economic and religious patterns evolved over centuries. Strife among the shattered remnants of once-independent societies is the responsibility of the roto-tiller. Of course, Westerners are incapable of admitting that they have ever done anything wrong so elaborate schemes to blame the victims are the order of the day. We are the only ones who believe our lies.

Which Islamic source do you get your information from, I have never read so much lying crap in all my life. Lebanon was a state even under the Ottomans and Syria was not until after the demise of the Ottoman empire. The facts is the muslims are acting on the commands in their koran to take over the world and KILL THE UNBELIEVERS

 

[Phoenall]

Fishlore, et al,

Yes, most countries don't react well to intimidation. Since before Israeli Independence, the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) have issued threat after threat to bully, scare, coerce and intimidate people, cultures, nations and governments to affect the conduct of ruling or influential powers in the furtherance of political or social objectives. It is why we call them "unconventional" threats.

“We cannot forget that what’s happening in Gaza today (2014) will feed and fuel the desire for many more to join radical groups,”
--- Former FBI Director Robert Mueller --- ​

What we think of the Palestinians is partially reflected in the thought that: "In August 2014, the US Department of State designated the Mujahidin Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem, a Gaza-based umbrella group of jihadist organizations in the area, as a foreign terrorist organization, citing its claims of rocket attacks on southern Israel and the group’s announcement of allegiance to the Islamic State. While some may automatically automatically associate HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement) with Gaza, in fact, there are a number of nefarious Jihadist, Terrorist, Insurgents and hostile Asymmetric threats.

I'm quite sure that no regional country wants to release these threats without constraints or replace a country like Israel with a near failed state that has no reasonable expectation of success. Remember, Palestinians are parasitic. The will drain all the funds and potentials of a country and then turn towards other regional nation to sink their teeth into.

Times of Israel -- 2 DEC 15 -- BY REBECCA SHIMONI STOIL August 19, 2014
WASHINGTON — The US State Department designated an al-Qaeda affiliated group active in the Gaza Strip as a foreign terrorist organization Tuesday morning.
​

The flaw in Likud's strategy is that the opposition is not a few million stateless Palestinians herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank, it is the entire Arab people supported by world opinion and a majority of the member nations in the UN.

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If the Palestinians are "herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank," then that is a Arab Palestinian leadership problem that has cascaded into a deliberate program NOT to improve the quality of life of ALL people in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"At its core, leadership is about people. Fundamental to this is that leaders take care of their people."
"The leader who sends the message that people don’t really matter will generally not be as successful in the long-run as the leader who is genuinely serious about taking care of his people."
------- No Yelling - The 9 secrets of Marine Corps Leadership You Must Know to Win in Business - Wally Adamchik​

The very lack of knowledge, skills and abilities manifested by the Palestinians represents a great incompetence --- that can manage the energies properly, generally produce a positive impact on the economy, standard of living, and the quality of life. That is not the fault of the Israelis.

Corollary to this fact, the Palestinian issue is not going to be resolved by gunfire but by political and economic pressure which neither Israel nor Palestine is able to resist. This would have happened years ago were it not for the USA blocking international effort in hopes of dictating terms favorable to the Jews in our self-appointed role as "honest broker." Nobody is buying that stuff any more, the rest is just a matter of time.

(COMMENT)

On most any political question, whether it be economically, militarily, commercially, or diplomatically, will have more than one vantage points and many points to consider before an intelligent decision on the best course of action is arrived at.

Most Respectfully,
R

or replace a country like Israel with a near failed state that has no reasonable expectation of success. Remember, Palestinians are parasitic.​

Of course Palestine did not need aid before Israel stole, bombed, and bulldozed their economic infrastructures.

Then why did they get it, as they started to receive hand outs in 1949 well before Israel retaliated to their acts of war ? Why did the UN change the rules to suit the muslims and give them their own very pricy refugee agency because the majority had less than two years residency in Palestine in 1949. The reprisals taken by Israel are legal and covered by IHL and the Geneva conventions much to your dismay, as you don't want the Jews to have any legal rights at all do you.

 

[Rehmani]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

Yet I remain optimistic about the longer term. Israel has a mutually beneficial role to play in the United States of Arabia, a role akin to that once enjoyed by Lebanon. The Israeli economy is profitably compatible with the surrounding Arab economies. Arab society has a long history of working out peaceful accommodations that are good for business. But a Western sort of Fort Apache perched on the al Aqsa mosque is essentially unsustainable.

And we all saw what happened to Lebanon when the arab muslims decided that is was going to be an Islamic state, they destroyed its capital and mass murdered thousands of innocents. Now the indigenous people are held as slaves by the extremist muslims who are setting their sights on Israel next.

Lebanon was part of Syria, much as Kuwait was part of Iraq. These colonial carve-ups tend to be inherently unstable. What destroyed Lebanon was Israel, a foreign body stabbed into the heart of Arabia which has produced the sort of infectious reaction such wounds always do.

The whole of the Levant is one of the most diverse and heterogenous parts of the Muslim world. Over the centuries, the Muslim record of minority toleration has been at least as good as that of Christendom. The disruptive invasion of Britain and France destroyed a social equilibrium that had taken generations to establish.

A similar phenomenon has taken pace across sub-Sahara Africa (and long before the rise of Boko Haram). Western imperialism has run like a roto-tiller across lands whose cultural, economic and religious patterns evolved over centuries. Strife among the shattered remnants of once-independent societies is the responsibility of the roto-tiller. Of course, Westerners are incapable of admitting that they have ever done anything wrong so elaborate schemes to blame the victims are the order of the day. We are the only ones who believe our lies.

Which Islamic source do you get your information from, I have never read so much lying crap in all my life. Lebanon was a state even under the Ottomans and Syria was not until after the demise of the Ottoman empire. The facts is the muslims are acting on the commands in their koran to take over the world and KILL THE UNBELIEVERS

It is you phoney, who is spreading the hate around. you should accept it psycho phoney. please find better job for your living.

 

[Rehmani]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

Yet I remain optimistic about the longer term. Israel has a mutually beneficial role to play in the United States of Arabia, a role akin to that once enjoyed by Lebanon. The Israeli economy is profitably compatible with the surrounding Arab economies. Arab society has a long history of working out peaceful accommodations that are good for business. But a Western sort of Fort Apache perched on the al Aqsa mosque is essentially unsustainable.

And we all saw what happened to Lebanon when the arab muslims decided that is was going to be an Islamic state, they destroyed its capital and mass murdered thousands of innocents. Now the indigenous people are held as slaves by the extremist muslims who are setting their sights on Israel next.

Well, Israel is next" what comes around goes around.

 

[Rehmani]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

They have and that is why the Palestinians are kept under scrutiny and not allowed weapons. That is why Israel has armed itself to the max and will not hesitate to fire back at hamas and fatah

The flaw in Likud's strategy is that the opposition is not a few million stateless Palestinians herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank, it is the entire Arab people supported by world opinion and a majority of the member nations in the UN.

Corollary to this fact, the Palestinian issue is not going to be resolved by gunfire but by political and economic pressure which neither Israel nor Palestine is able to resist. This would have happened years ago were it not for the USA blocking international effort in hopes of dictating terms favorable to the Jews in our self-appointed role as "honest broker." Nobody is buying that stuff any more, the rest is just a matter of time.

If that was the case then the entire arab people would have invaded Israel with the majority of the UN member states at their side. They would be threatening Israel with nuclear weapons and bombing the Jews into extinction. So why isn't this happening, why aren't the arabs camped on Israels borders with their armies shooting anything that moves while the US, UK, France and Russia are doing high level flights and dropping bombs by the thousand on Israel.
Could it be that you are LYING and don't really have a clue as to what is happening in the M.E.

No nation or group of nations can impose their views on the Jews or the Palestinians without being in breach of the UN charter, IHL or the Geneva conventions. So your propaganda is a non starter and is straight from the Palestinian handbook of BLOOD LIBELS and LIES. The UN should be made to enforce existing international laws that gave the whole of Jewish Palestine to the Jews for their national home. And then evict the arab muslims that do not want to live in peace to a country of their choosing as part of that international law. As you say it is just a matter of time before the UN collapses and the Palestinians face destitution and starvation because the rest of the arab world is refusing to lift a finger to help them

pHONEY WHY DON'T YOU GIVE UP YOUR PROPAGANDIST JOB AND BE PEACE LOVER.

 

[Rehmani]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

Yet I remain optimistic about the longer term. Israel has a mutually beneficial role to play in the United States of Arabia, a role akin to that once enjoyed by Lebanon. The Israeli economy is profitably compatible with the surrounding Arab economies. Arab society has a long history of working out peaceful accommodations that are good for business. But a Western sort of Fort Apache perched on the al Aqsa mosque is essentially unsustainable.

little israerl and little jew population around the world, all of a sudden got too much power, sound like having a problem to understand what you are saying.

 

[Rehmani]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

They have and that is why the Palestinians are kept under scrutiny and not allowed weapons. That is why Israel has armed itself to the max and will not hesitate to fire back at hamas and fatah

The flaw in Likud's strategy is that the opposition is not a few million stateless Palestinians herded into ghettoes in Gaza and the West Bank, it is the entire Arab people supported by world opinion and a majority of the member nations in the UN.

Corollary to this fact, the Palestinian issue is not going to be resolved by gunfire but by political and economic pressure which neither Israel nor Palestine is able to resist. This would have happened years ago were it not for the USA blocking international effort in hopes of dictating terms favorable to the Jews in our self-appointed role as "honest broker." Nobody is buying that stuff any more, the rest is just a matter of time.

Well it is not US or EU should understand it Jew, who should understand that they are living in the center of 400 million Arab......

 

[Rehmani]

From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.

As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.

They have and that is why the Palestinians are kept under scrutiny and not allowed weapons. That is why Israel has armed itself to the max and will not hesitate to fire back at hamas and fatah

lair phoney, Israel always bombing to innocent empty handed men and women and children. Why don't you accept this fact that phoney you are terrorist too.