Palestinian identity ?

Look body you can't compare some one like phoney who is living in UK with people of Palestine who are facing terror last 70 years by the Israeli army with modern war machine followed by wii elite force support.
Be real Roccr.





The only terror is that faced by the JEWS from the arab muslims. they are only doing what a muslim has to do by the command of their false prophet and moon god. If they had not invaded in 1949 and tried to wipe out the Jews then they would not have been killed in vast numbers. If they did not fire illegal weapons from civilian areas that have been branded war crimes they would not see thousands of human shields killed in the backwash. They showed their intent in 2005 when Israel removed all Jews from gaza and the Palestinians increased the numbers and severity of the terrorist attacks.
Why Arab Muslim will kill jews in Holy land. Arab muslim they are the one who open the door for jew in holy land
and I will say that was wrong by arab muslim.





And then proceeded to massacre them all over the world, and the muslims are still trying to massacre Jews today. They give with one hand and then take by force with the other.
This is your quality you are talking about. Fool whole world is watching that Jews are killing innocent people in israel, dumb can't you see.





No I cant, and nor can 70% of the worlds population, what they do see is terrorists and violent scum are being killed in war. They see the illegal rockets fired at Israeli children and the muslims rejoicing every time one hits Israel. They see the mass murders of innocents by muslims all over the world, and the muslims having a party every time they kill another innocent. They see the Jordanian muslims firing live ammunition into prison camps in retribution for the Palestinians terrorist attacks and killing 20,000 to 50,000 Palestinians. That is more Palestinian murdered in one month by other muslims that Israel has killed in 67 years of warfare.. All proven to be true because it happened in living memory
If this is the case then why whole world is against Israel, silly phoney either you are fool or you are thinking that world is fool.
 
I will say you don't live in UK. And your language is english either. you know nothing.




Then youi prove you know nothing what so ever and need to get an English education
dumb just add "n" it become "neither". You are a trouble maker spreading hate and earning on it. Don't you think you are terrorist too. European parliament pass a bill against israeli goods and Israeli jews are unhappy.





Then why can I buy Israeli goods in my local EU supermarket, because the law is unworkable in a union with separate laws. No I am not a terrorist as I am not using violence to force my religion or politics on anyone else, unlike you muslims that do it daily all over the world. How is it hate to post the truth from Islamic sources like the koran and hadiths ?
Then why israel is not happy. You are not but yours little tongue is moron. And they might be hypocrite or 100 million missing jews.





The missing Jews were mass murdered by muslims, it is all in the Islamic history texts starting with the hadiths. They were terrorists from the very start as shown by the commands in the koran to "strike terror in the hearts of the unbelievers". The only morons are those that deny the words written down in the koran and hadiths that tell the muslims to KILL THE JEWS. And they have done so for the last 1400 years, which is why so few are alive today.
Look to me, you are neither jew nor english just hypocrite propagandist who marking his number to make his boss happy from the propaganda company. Muslim never have war with jew in recent history and known jew never fought war either they use under cover missing jew or zionist.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Israel was the outcome of a successive series of events moving towards self-determination; just as the hardships of the Arab Palestinians was a consequence of very poor self-actualization.

The difference is in the objective and goals.

• The objective of the Arab Palestinian was to "prevent" the Jewish People from achieving an independent state. (The goal was NOT directed at achieving independence for themselves.) (PREVENTION)

• The objective of the Jewish People was to "achieving" an independent state. (The goal was NOT to prevent or hinder the Arab Palestinian from achieving independence.) (ACHIEVEMENT)

Was Israel created as part of the resolution 181 process or was it a unilateral move?
(COMMENT)

Israel was a creation of the Jewish People through their exercise of "collective self-determination;" nation building. It was the national aspiration deemed necessary as a matter of cultural self preservation.

The GA Resolution 181 was the "HOW TO BOOK" by the UN and the recommendations of the Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP). It was the UNSCOP that wrote the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" (the "HOW") and it was the General Assembly that adopted the recommendation as the proper steps (international consensus). BUT is was the Jewish People that initiated the action, completed the process to the extent possible (opposed by Powerful Arab Forces), and declared independence.

It was the collective decision of the Arab League to use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state (external interference). A violation of the Article 2(4) Principle of the UN Charter.

Most Respectfully,
R
Roccar you are working hard to change the facts, please don't do that. Honesty is good policy. Let the world have peace.





He has changed no facts at all and just posts genuine reports from valid sources to prove muslims are evil, vile and untrustworthy. A thousand years of washing will never remove the blood on your hands
I don't know about roccor, but you are not English neither english is first tongue. What roccor talking about is that elite forces invade holy land from Turkey and gave to Jews and invader makes all laws too. And he is trying to force invader story over 1000 years of holy land history and he wants accept these new facts force by invaders.






I am as much English as you are Islamic, and I can trace my descendants back to the Norman Conquest. You would be lucky if you could trace your grandfather. You are the last person that should be passing any comments on another persons English, as you abuse and bastardise English as if you cant be bothered to learn it.

The muslims from where ever invade everywhere they can to take over the world, then they cry about being invaded themselves and removed from the lands they have stolen. They were invented as land thieves, mass murderers and rapists by the false prophet who made no prophetic announcements at all. They emulate his life with child rape, theft and murder, and complain they are being treated unfairly when they are punished for their crimes.

Now to get back to the topic from the conquest by the Roman Empire till 1960 the only palestinians were the Jews, and to call a muslim a Palestinian was to insult him, his family and his religion.
phoney you are lying again, you must be hake some English man ID to hide your dirt and call your self english. And jews were not in holy land since Roman kicked them out 2000 years ago and roman were right but who invite jew in haly land 900 years ago were wrong.
 
From the Arab side, the fact that the Israelis are Jews is insignificant. They could all be Episcopalians and it wouldn't change a thing. What is important is that they are non-Muslims. Six million Westerners led by an MIT grad whose daddy taught at Cornell are holding down a garrison state along the lines of British Hong Kong in the center of four hundred million Arab Muslims. There is no way this situation ends any differently than the Hong Kong colony did.

The Jewishness of Israel is vital only to Christendom. It was liberal guilt over Nazi genocide that tipped the scales in favor of Zionists in England and Europe, creating the Jewish State to begin with. It is the vast political and economic resources of American Jews (some 2% of the US population) which provide the Jews of Israel with the unlimited financial, military and diplomatic resources necessary for continued survival.

These are not pleasant facts and they clash uncomfortably with the touching Bible stories spun by the AIPAC propaganda machine, but facts they are and facts they will remain.
As you said that they forced little Israel in the center of 400 million Arab muslim, and jews should understand it and learned from history.
Yet I remain optimistic about the longer term. Israel has a mutually beneficial role to play in the United States of Arabia, a role akin to that once enjoyed by Lebanon. The Israeli economy is profitably compatible with the surrounding Arab economies. Arab society has a long history of working out peaceful accommodations that are good for business. But a Western sort of Fort Apache perched on the al Aqsa mosque is essentially unsustainable.





And we all saw what happened to Lebanon when the arab muslims decided that is was going to be an Islamic state, they destroyed its capital and mass murdered thousands of innocents. Now the indigenous people are held as slaves by the extremist muslims who are setting their sights on Israel next.
Lebanon was part of Syria, much as Kuwait was part of Iraq. These colonial carve-ups tend to be inherently unstable. What destroyed Lebanon was Israel, a foreign body stabbed into the heart of Arabia which has produced the sort of infectious reaction such wounds always do.

The whole of the Levant is one of the most diverse and heterogenous parts of the Muslim world. Over the centuries, the Muslim record of minority toleration has been at least as good as that of Christendom. The disruptive invasion of Britain and France destroyed a social equilibrium that had taken generations to establish.

A similar phenomenon has taken pace across sub-Sahara Africa (and long before the rise of Boko Haram). Western imperialism has run like a roto-tiller across lands whose cultural, economic and religious patterns evolved over centuries. Strife among the shattered remnants of once-independent societies is the responsibility of the roto-tiller. Of course, Westerners are incapable of admitting that they have ever done anything wrong so elaborate schemes to blame the victims are the order of the day. We are the only ones who believe our lies.





Which Islamic source do you get your information from, I have never read so much lying crap in all my life. Lebanon was a state even under the Ottomans and Syria was not until after the demise of the Ottoman empire. The facts is the muslims are acting on the commands in their koran to take over the world and KILL THE UNBELIEVERS
It appears that you have never read much of anything, lying crap or not, in your life. Until 1920, none of the provinces of what is now Lebanon and Syria enjoyed the status of nations. The region was a series of Ottoman provinces.

The 1920 administration of the region under the French was carried out in an endless administrative reshuffling which created a Syrian, federation, then a Syrian state and finally a Syrian Republic in 1930. Concurrent under this French mandate were separate non-sovereign administrative states for Alawites, Druze and Lebanese Christians.

It is a complicated and now moot period if French colonial history. I am sympathetic with your struggle to grasp the details. Your hostile discourtesy, however, is something that I have no wish nor need to put up with. You have earned you spot on my ignore list. Bye bye
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Israel was the outcome of a successive series of events moving towards self-determination; just as the hardships of the Arab Palestinians was a consequence of very poor self-actualization.

The difference is in the objective and goals.

• The objective of the Arab Palestinian was to "prevent" the Jewish People from achieving an independent state. (The goal was NOT directed at achieving independence for themselves.) (PREVENTION)

• The objective of the Jewish People was to "achieving" an independent state. (The goal was NOT to prevent or hinder the Arab Palestinian from achieving independence.) (ACHIEVEMENT)

(COMMENT)

Israel was a creation of the Jewish People through their exercise of "collective self-determination;" nation building. It was the national aspiration deemed necessary as a matter of cultural self preservation.

The GA Resolution 181 was the "HOW TO BOOK" by the UN and the recommendations of the Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP). It was the UNSCOP that wrote the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" (the "HOW") and it was the General Assembly that adopted the recommendation as the proper steps (international consensus). BUT is was the Jewish People that initiated the action, completed the process to the extent possible (opposed by Powerful Arab Forces), and declared independence.

It was the collective decision of the Arab League to use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state (external interference). A violation of the Article 2(4) Principle of the UN Charter.

Most Respectfully,
R
Roccar you are working hard to change the facts, please don't do that. Honesty is good policy. Let the world have peace.





He has changed no facts at all and just posts genuine reports from valid sources to prove muslims are evil, vile and untrustworthy. A thousand years of washing will never remove the blood on your hands
I don't know about roccor, but you are not English neither english is first tongue. What roccor talking about is that elite forces invade holy land from Turkey and gave to Jews and invader makes all laws too. And he is trying to force invader story over 1000 years of holy land history and he wants accept these new facts force by invaders.






I am as much English as you are Islamic, and I can trace my descendants back to the Norman Conquest. You would be lucky if you could trace your grandfather. You are the last person that should be passing any comments on another persons English, as you abuse and bastardise English as if you cant be bothered to learn it.

The muslims from where ever invade everywhere they can to take over the world, then they cry about being invaded themselves and removed from the lands they have stolen. They were invented as land thieves, mass murderers and rapists by the false prophet who made no prophetic announcements at all. They emulate his life with child rape, theft and murder, and complain they are being treated unfairly when they are punished for their crimes.

Now to get back to the topic from the conquest by the Roman Empire till 1960 the only palestinians were the Jews, and to call a muslim a Palestinian was to insult him, his family and his religion.
phoney you are lying again, you must be hake some English man ID to hide your dirt and call your self english. And jews were not in holy land since Roman kicked them out 2000 years ago and roman were right but who invite jew in haly land 900 years ago were wrong.





The Jews have lived in the holy land for 4,500 years without a break, then the Christians managed 2000 years. Lastly the muslims have a scant 1000 years in the holy land, and 22 years in Palestine. The Ottomans invited the Jews in 1850 because the arab muslims were too lazy to work the land. All in the Islamic historical records.
 
The next person to make an off topic post in this thread is getting infracted and booted from it.
 
Op-Ed: Palestine: Not a state, but already a failure
The PA is a failure and any state built on its ruins will be a worse failure.

Published: Monday, December 21, 2015
Leonie Ben-Simon

During the last century the great powers drew lines in the sands of the Middle East as they divided up what used to be the Ottoman Empire.

Today Syria is being eyed by the powers of today as the buzz-word “failed state” puts it into the same situation that war and mediation have not been able to resolve. The old tribal hatreds magnified due to a large population have reared their ugly heads, resulting in wholesale killings with no end in sight. But Syria is not the only failed state in the region. The newest non-member of the United Nations has already failed before it has started: Palestine.

What are the attributes of a failed state?

Such a state’s common definition is one that has no control over its territory, one in which there is an erosion of legitimate authority to make collective decisions and one which cannot provide continuing public services such as electricity. Corruption is usually a hallmark of a failed state as is economic decline and dependence upon charitable organizations.

If it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck it probably is a duck. This is despite the United Nations recent decision to give credence to what a "Palestinian State” means. It is and will be a failed state. Their votes are merely a reflection of what is in the interests of the majority of members of the UN, nothing more and nothing less.

The United Nations voted for the State of Israel to exist when it suited them in 1947 and it now is voting to give the same land away to others. In disregarding our claim to our ancestral lands based on what was given to us by G-d, the United Nations has moved to set up something that is known as a failed state, past and future.

The failure to control the territory that Hamas and Fatah state loudly and publicly is the first and major marker of a failed state. Particularly after the debacle whereby Israel withdrew from Gaza in the name of peace, it is unlikely that Israel will surrender one inch of territory. The Palestinians may mark maps of the Land of Israel as theirs, they may change Israel’s name to Palestine in their children’s story books and can attempt to brainwash a whole population to believe that it is theirs, but it is not and never will be. This will be even more so after Israeli voters turned right, mainly as a consequence of Hamas’s rockets and suicide bombers.

Failed states have an erosion of legitimate authority. Hamas rules in Gaza by force and by terror. Dissent of any sort is met with death without trial, bodies dragged around the streets, rocket launchers being located in residential areas without the free consent of home-owners whilst civilians are being used as human shields. Dissenters do not have an alternative if they want to live.

Huge sums of money keep Palestinians in business. There is no proper economy for the simple reason that the real economy is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. The GDP of Gaza works like this: The United Nations supplies the money for subsistence together with the good people of the European Union and donors to charities world-wide. There is also incoming war materiel from Iran and other enemies of Israel. Apart from a small amount of fishing and farming there is little other produce, unless weaponry and rocket production is counted. Abbas has thrown up his hands in despair as his fictional Palestine is effectively broke, whilst promises of financial support from his brothers in other lands have not been forthcoming.

Unlike every other country in the world, the UN and its agency set up and dedicated to the Palestinians, UNRWA, make no effort to resettle the people of Gaza, but actively support and encourage the high birth-rate. The day that the UN and charities stop bankrolling the 1.6 million Gazans who have been on the world’s payroll collecting this largesse, they will simply have no income.

The humanitarian refugee problem that used to be part of Egypt will not experience a sharp economic decline when the United Nations stops funding it. It will just stop. The United Nations and charitable organizations have built a monster whilst never planning for tomorrow.

Corruption is endemic, coupled with bribery and the inability to pay civil servants and medical staff proper wages on time, resulting in a deterioration of public services. The hundreds of millions of dollars that Yasser Arafat stashed away is only a small part of the story. The Hamas ruling class live in beautiful homes driving Mercedes and the like in stark contrast to the rest of their people living in sub-standard housing. Things are no different in the few Arab cities of Israel where Fatah is on the take. This is another hallmark of a failed state.

Basic services such as electricity are provided by Israel who amazingly provides repair services whilst Hamas shoots at its service technicians. Specialist medical services such as operations on children requiring heart surgery and Syrian war injuries are also donated by Israel in Israeli hospitals.

Whilst the leaders of this imaginary state work towards a world-wide propaganda effort to legitimize those who call themselves Palestinians it should be remembered that they were originally mostly Arab economic migrants from Egypt, Algeria, Africa and much of the Middle East. Only a minority are refugees from the wars with Israel now living in cities labelled as refugee camps, complete with multi-storey buildings going up to house those who are benefiting from corruption.

...

Palestine: Not a state, but already a failure - Op-Eds - Arutz Sheva
 
The Palestinians Muslim and Christians, are the native people of Palestine. The migrants were the Europeans that invaded and colonized Palestine beginning in the mid 1800s. Quit lying.

UNITED

NATIONS

A

General Assembly

A/364

3 September 1947

OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

SUPPLEMENT No. 11

UNITED NATIONS

SPECIAL COMMITTEE

ON PALESTINE

REPORT TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

VOLUME 1


15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural

increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main

to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, t
he total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into

Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year. The flow has not

been regular, however, being fairly high in 1924 to 1926, falling in the next few years

(there was a net emigration in 1927) and rising to even higher levels between 1933 and

1936 as a result of the Nazi persecution in Europe. Between the census year of 1931

and the year 1936, the proportion of Jews to the total population rose from 18 per cent to

nearly 30 per cent.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births

over deaths
....."

A/364 of 3 September 1947
 
It is a hot line from the AIPAC lobby that the Palestinians don't "deserve" a state of their own because they don't make enough money. This is a traditional Jewish argument. Of course, it's hard to make a buck when you and your family are locked in a kosher stalag.

We should consider bringing this idea back home. What about the American states which receive more money from the federal government than they pay to Washington in taxes? Do these welfare sponges really deserve to have a state of their own?
 
It is a hot line from the AIPAC lobby that the Palestinians don't "deserve" a state of their own because they don't make enough money. This is a traditional Jewish argument. Of course, it's hard to make a buck when you and your family are locked in a kosher stalag.

We should consider bringing this idea back home. What about the American states which receive more money from the federal government than they pay to Washington in taxes? Do these welfare sponges really deserve to have a state of their own?
You must be talking about them blue states...:rolleyes-41:
 
It is a hot line from the AIPAC lobby that the Palestinians don't "deserve" a state of their own because they don't make enough money. This is a traditional Jewish argument. Of course, it's hard to make a buck when you and your family are locked in a kosher stalag.

We should consider bringing this idea back home. What about the American states which receive more money from the federal government than they pay to Washington in taxes? Do these welfare sponges really deserve to have a state of their own?
You must be talking about them blue states...:rolleyes-41:

Nope. The "small government" red states are the big welfare sponges. Take a gander:

Mississippi and New Mexico, each gets back about $3 in federal spending for every dollar they send to the federal treasury in taxes. Alabama and Louisiana are close behind. South Carolina gets $7.87 back from Washington for every $1 its citizens pay in federal tax.

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?

TEA Party conservative types are freeloaders. It's the blue states who sign the checks.
 
Man that got off track fast.

In the end I'd agree with the OP that while the revisionists would have us believe the people living in the British mandate area prior to the creation of either Jordan or Israel were somehow distinct and possessing of their own culture separate from that of any number of surrounding Arab states. I believe its more than obvious these people were colonists from the Muslim Arab invasion and were in fact a conglomeration of peoples from a variety of North African states.

The best most recent genetic studies bear this out.

Genetic Evidence for the Expansion of Arabian Tribes into ...
 
Man that got off track fast.

In the end I'd agree with the OP that while the revisionists would have us believe the people living in the British mandate area prior to the creation of either Jordan or Israel were somehow distinct and possessing of their own culture separate from that of any number of surrounding Arab states. I believe its more than obvious these people were colonists from the Muslim Arab invasion and were in fact a conglomeration of peoples from a variety of North African states.

The best most recent genetic studies bear this out.

Genetic Evidence for the Expansion of Arabian Tribes into ...

You are getting sillier and sillier. The Arabians were from what is now Saudi Arabia. The Arabians were very few in number (deserts do not tend to facilitate large populations) and were represented in the officer corps of the Muslim armies 90% of which were made up of local converts from Christianity.

By the way. North Africans were not invaded (did not adopt the Arab language and culture or convert to Islam) until after Palestine was conquered from the Romans.

The only colonists were the Zionists.
 
Man that got off track fast.

In the end I'd agree with the OP that while the revisionists would have us believe the people living in the British mandate area prior to the creation of either Jordan or Israel were somehow distinct and possessing of their own culture separate from that of any number of surrounding Arab states. I believe its more than obvious these people were colonists from the Muslim Arab invasion and were in fact a conglomeration of peoples from a variety of North African states.

The best most recent genetic studies bear this out.

Genetic Evidence for the Expansion of Arabian Tribes into ...

You are getting sillier and sillier. The Arabians were from what is now Saudi Arabia. The Arabians were very few in number (deserts do not tend to facilitate large populations) and were represented in the officer corps of the Muslim armies 90% of which were made up of local converts from Christianity.

By the way. North Africans were not invaded (did not adopt the Arab language and culture or convert to Islam) until after Palestine was conquered from the Romans.

The only colonists were the Zionists.
Your employment of taqiyya is juvenile. The invaders were the Islamist hordes as part of the Ottoman Crusades. Ignoring history when you find that it conflicts with your revisionist version of history is easily refuted.
 
Man that got off track fast.

In the end I'd agree with the OP that while the revisionists would have us believe the people living in the British mandate area prior to the creation of either Jordan or Israel were somehow distinct and possessing of their own culture separate from that of any number of surrounding Arab states. I believe its more than obvious these people were colonists from the Muslim Arab invasion and were in fact a conglomeration of peoples from a variety of North African states.

The best most recent genetic studies bear this out.

Genetic Evidence for the Expansion of Arabian Tribes into ...

You are getting sillier and sillier. The Arabians were from what is now Saudi Arabia. The Arabians were very few in number (deserts do not tend to facilitate large populations) and were represented in the officer corps of the Muslim armies 90% of which were made up of local converts from Christianity.

By the way. North Africans were not invaded (did not adopt the Arab language and culture or convert to Islam) until after Palestine was conquered from the Romans.

The only colonists were the Zionists.

WOW

Interesting what people can come up with then they ignore the facts

Lets try some facts again ;--)

Genetic Evidence for the Expansion of Arabian Tribes into ...
 
Israel is a European colony more like Hong Kong than a real country. Israel cannot exist on its own; it requires billions of dollars in military assistance, charity donations, tax loopholes and sweetheart business deals to remain viable. It is the size of New Jersey with a population like New York City. It can't even grow its own food. Hong Kong lasted as a British colony for well over a century. The previous Holy Land colony, the Kingdom of Jerusalem lasted a bit longer. Israel hasn't gotten nearly that far (yet).

The original Zionist dream was a homeland for the Jews in a purely secular state in which all religions were respected on an equal footing. That is what Chaim Weizmann describes and what the Balfour Declaration promises. Jews, the founding Zionists proclaimed, were to live in cooperative integration with their Muslim cousins.

How things changed between the publication of the Balfour Declaration and independence in 1948 is a long and contentious story. Whatever groups were responsible for the 180 degree change of course, we are now at a point at which Likud is proclaiming Eretz Israel and Bibi is proposing "group rights" for Jews only. Four hundred million Arabs are never going to accept this and Israel, even with the unlimited financial and military support of the USA does not have the power to impose it.

It is possible that we will have a century of intifada and violent repression, but it is unlikely as US enthusiasm is waning and the world's patience is running out. We may have some sort of bloody convulsion that will resolve the issue much as the Romans did the last time the Jews attempted to set up a "homeland" in Palestine. Or a way may be found to return to the original Zionist vision of cooperative integration. I don't see a fourth option. Anyone? Anyone?
 
The only place where there is no cooperative integration between the Jewish people and our Muslim cousins is in the area under the control of the PA. And Gaza. Oh, and Jordan. And Lebanon. And Syria. And....oh wait.....every other Muslim-majority state...well....everywhere. Hmmmm. Well, that's awkward.
 
The only place where there is no cooperative integration between the Jewish people and our Muslim cousins is in the area under the control of the PA. And Gaza. Oh, and Jordan. And Lebanon. And Syria. And....oh wait.....every other Muslim-majority state...well....everywhere. Hmmmm. Well, that's awkward.
If I may suggest an alternate view with a modification to your list:

"The only place where there is no cooperative integration between the Jewish people, (people of competing faiths, cultures and backgrounds, or even Moslems who are the "wrong kind" of Moslems, ed.) and our Muslim cousins......."
 
Now some crazy libtard will come along and say "those little bottle rockets won't hurt anyone", morons...
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Sunni militants claiming links to the Islamic State jihadist group have said they were behind rocket fire from the Palestinian enclave in recent months, but Israel holds Hamas responsible for all such incidents.

Earlier on Friday, two Palestinians were moderately wounded by Israeli gunfire after they stormed the border fence in northern Gaza, the Israeli army and Gaza medics said.

Gaza rockets strike Israel: army
 
Hezbollah’s Dangerous Game
The fate the next Lebanon war spells for Iran’s troublesome regional proxy.
January 8, 2016
Ari Lieberman

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On January 4, Iran’s Shiite Lebanese mercenary force, Hezbollah, detonated a large explosive device on the Lebanon-Israel border in the Mount Dov region. Their target was a pair of Israeli D-9 armored bulldozers clearing the area of brush and other obstructions. There were no Israeli casualties.

Israel had anticipated an attack from Hezbollah following its liquidation of Samir Kuntar – the notorious child-killer turned Hezbollah commander – and other senior pro-Assad mercenaries in a Damascus suburb on December 19, 2015. Israel’s Chief of Staff Gadi Eizenkot warned Hezbollah of “harsh” consequences if the group decided to initiate a terror attack to avenge Kuntar.

The attack itself accomplished nothing. The heavily armored D-9 bulldozers were able to withstand the blast. In an effort to bolster its image and play to a demoralized constituency, Hezbollah claimed that the attack targeted a senior Mossad official and wounded some Israelis. The claim of course was false but demonstrates Hezbollah’s desperation.

In July and August of 2006, Israel and Hezbollah fought a 33-day war. Hezbollah propagandists tried to spin the war as a Hezbollah victory but the reality on the ground was quite different and the war in fact, represented a major strategic victory for Israel. Hezbollah lost between 600 to 1,000 fighters and much of its infrastructure, painstakingly constructed with Iranian and North Korean assistance, was destroyed. Most importantly, the war established Israeli deterrence and imposed new rules on Hezbollah. The group could no longer rely on a predictable, measured Israeli response to border provocations. Instead, the new rules meant that Israel could and would respond with overwhelming force to any provocation.

The most telling account of the conflict came from none other than Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah, who noted that he would have never initiated the terror attack that preceded the conflict had he known of the Israeli response beforehand. Indeed, since 2006 Israel’s Lebanon border experienced a quiet not witnessed since the early 1960s.

Following the conflict, Hezbollah, in anticipation of the next round, began a period of reconstruction and rearmament. Financed by Iranian petro dollars, it acquired sophisticated anti-tank missiles and cruise missiles and increased its rocket arsenal from 12,000 to over 100,000. Some of these rockets are said to be capable of hitting targets south of Tel-Aviv.

Most of the weapons were either transported overland through Syria or sent directly to Beirut International Airport, where Hezbollah operatives maintain complete control. These weapons transfers represented a clear violation of UN Resolution 1701 but the Western component of the UN had no stomach to challenge the Syrian-Iranian-Hezbollah Axis of Evil and the Muslim component either didn’t care or actually supported it.

...

Hezbollah’s Dangerous Game
 

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