Palestine Today

[rylah]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yeah, when you get more substantial information (basic interrogatives) please get back with us.

The Israelis do not just initiate "kidnap operations" without cause - and - certainly don't apprehend people without some reason.

Israeli occupation forces kidnapped Shatha Hasan, a Birzeit University student, from her home in Ramallah at dawn today.

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◈ It could be that an unnamed controlled "informat" led to information promting to the arrest and detention of Shatha Hasan.

◈ It could be that Shatha Hasan is a "control asset" or "confidential police informant" and needed to be picked-up for safety reasons because she was compromised.

◈ It could be that Shatha Hasan was a material witnesses whose evidence is likely to be sufficiently important to lead to the arrest and conviction of some other serious criminal.

◈ It could be that Shatha Hasan was implicated in something serious and became somehow connected or entangled to events more serious.

◈ It could be that Shatha Hasan was being recruited by some netharious entity and need to be extracted from harm.

◈ It could be that Shatha Hasan was being recruited by one of the police, security, or intelligence activities and the arrest and apprehension was needed to establish her bonafide.​

Here are a half dozen "other" reasons why Shatha Hasan was given such attention, other than the sinister purposes you are implying. Get back to us when you have something more concrete.


Most Respectfully,
R

Meanwhile, Shatha Hasan, a student at Birzeit University and the president of the student council, was also arrested last week at her family home in Ramallah. Hasan’s detention has been extended until next Tuesday, 24 December.

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Meanwhile, an Israeli court has transferred Shatha Hasan, a 20-year-old Birzeit University student, arrested earlier this week, to administrative detention for three months.

Administrative detention is an Israeli policy that allows the army to withhold Palestinians in custody without charge or trial for different periods of time on the basis of secret information that prisoners or their lawyers are not allowed to get a hold of.

Israel arrests 5 Palestinians in West Bank - Xinhua | English.news.cn

"without charge or trial" means no crime.

What it means is distancing a suspect during an investigation.

If she's the president of the students association, as your source says - then she's the one who organized the Nazi salute parade during celebrations in the university last week.

 

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Turkey foreign ministry rebuts Israeli claims over Hamas


ANKARA, (PIC)

The Turkish Foreign Ministry on Thursday refuted Israeli allegations saying its territory was used for acts against Israel or any other country, stressing that the Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas, is not a terror group.

"The majority of the international community considers Hamas not as a terrorist organization but as a political reality which has won the elections in Gaza in 2006," the ministry said on Twitter.

It went on saying that the UN General Assembly had rejected calling Palestine's Hamas as a terrorist organization in 2018 and various countries has friendly ties with Hamas at different levels.

Read more at
Turkey foreign ministry rebuts Israeli claims over Hamas
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Hamas Covenant - Wikipedia

 

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Turkey foreign ministry rebuts Israeli claims over Hamas


ANKARA, (PIC)

The Turkish Foreign Ministry on Thursday refuted Israeli allegations saying its territory was used for acts against Israel or any other country, stressing that the Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas, is not a terror group.

"The majority of the international community considers Hamas not as a terrorist organization but as a political reality which has won the elections in Gaza in 2006," the ministry said on Twitter.

It went on saying that the UN General Assembly had rejected calling Palestine's Hamas as a terrorist organization in 2018 and various countries has friendly ties with Hamas at different levels.

Read more at
Turkey foreign ministry rebuts Israeli claims over Hamas
@Copyright The Palestinian Information Center

Hamas Covenant - Wikipedia

Turkey and others can " claim" whatever they want to but the facts don't lie
There are people who deny the Holocaust happened ; Same mentality


In 2008, the Hamas leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, stated that Hamas would agree to accept a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders, and to offer a long-term truce with Israel.[8] In contrast to this, Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar stated that any talk of the 1967 lines is "just a phase" until Hamas has a chance to "regain the land...even if we [Hamas] have to do so inch by inch."[9] Other Hamas leaders, including Ismail Haniyah and Khaled Meshaal, have also stated repeatedly that "Palestine – from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea, from its north to its south – is our land, our right, and our homeland. There will be no relinquishing or forsaking even an inch or small part of it,"[10] and that "we shall not relinquish the Islamic waqf on the land of Palestine, and Jerusalem shall not be divided into Western and Eastern Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a single united [city], and Palestine stretches from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, and from Naqoura [Rosh Ha-Niqra] to Umm Al-Rashrash [Eilat] in the south."[11][12]

In 2009 interviews with the BBC, Tony Blair claimed that Hamas does not accept the existence of Israel and continues to pursue its objectives through terror and violence; Sir Jeremy Greenstock however argued that Hamas has not adopted its charter as part of its political program since it won the 2006 Palestinian legislative election.[13] Instead it has moved to a more secular stance.[14] In 2010, Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal stated that the Charter is "a piece of history and no longer relevant, but cannot be changed for internal reasons."[15] Hamas has moved away from its charter since it decided to run candidates for office.[14]

After a new charter was scheduled to be issued in May 2017, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office issued a statement in which it accused Hamas of trying to fool the world and also asked it to stop its terror activities for a true change.[16]

The 2017 charter accepted for the first time the idea of a Palestinian state within the borders that existed before 1967 and rejects recognition of Israel which it terms as the "Zionist enemy".[2] It advocates such a state as transitional but also advocates "liberation of all of Palestine".[17][18] The new document also states that the group doesn't seek war with the Jewish people but only against Zionism which it holds responsible for "occupation of Palestine".[19] Mashal also stated that Hamas was ending its association with the Muslim Brotherhood.[17]

 

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International positions on the nature of Hamas - Wikipedia

As usual, Tinmore is lying

 

[P F Tinmore]

International positions on the nature of Hamas - Wikipedia

As usual, Tinmore is lying

Only a small number of countries designate Hamas terrorists. Most do not.

 

[rylah]

International positions on the nature of Hamas - Wikipedia

As usual, Tinmore is lying

Only a small number of countries designate Hamas terrorists. Most do not.

Is that why even Turkey hurried to deny of any Hamas activity on its ground?

Hamas is no different from ISIS savages,
same public execution of their own people, and same goals to establish Caliphate.

 

[toastman]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ toastman, P F Tinmore, et al,

There is actually no law pertaining to "cease-fires."

Customarily, agreements are generally honored in cases existing international lines of demarcation, armistice lines, international boundaries, territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers borders.

What you have most often seen between the Israelis and the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) special regimes. They are special because it is an agreement between a legitimate State Government (Israel) and a known criminal- terrorist activity (Palestinian Islamic Jihad).

That is different than what I have read elsewhere.

My concern is that Israel regularly violates ceasefires.

Also:

Israel bombs civilian homes killing women and children. Israel has done this many times. I can't think of another country that does this.

Got a link ?

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Israel and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad reached a cease-fire agreement. However, contracts and agreements in which a party to the agreement is also a designated terrorist activity.

YOU don't have to worry about breaking a ceasefire with a Criminal/Terrorist activity that holds peace hostage.


Most Respectfully,
R

Are you still pimping Israel's terrorist propaganda crap?

Why would Israel agree to ceasefires only to violate them? Oh, that's right, it is Israel. Israel has no honor.

Is that all you got after Rocco completely dismantled your so called ‘argument’...again!

Speaking of dishonour, Israelis aren’t the ones celebrating and handing out candy when Israelis are slaughtered:...

 

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Palestinians of all ages participate in an anti-occupation demonstration in #Gaza during the First Intifada, 1987.

 

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IDF night raid.

 

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Good morning from Gaza

 

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The Disquieting Treatment of Christians by the Palestinians

 

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Good morning from Gaza

Good Morning from E. Jerusalem

 

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International positions on the nature of Hamas - Wikipedia

As usual, Tinmore is lying

Only a small number of countries designate Hamas terrorists. Most do not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ys-its-more-complicated-than-you-might-think/

…. I can see how many " friends" Hamas has

 

[P F Tinmore]

Expert Q&A: Trump’s Executive Order on Campus Antisemitism

Expert: Dima Khalidi, founder and director of Palestine Legal and Cooperating Counsel with the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR).

Expert Q&A: Trump’s Executive Order on Campus Antisemitism | IMEU

 

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Palestinians take part in a protest in Ramallah, central West Bank in support of Palestinian political prisoners in Israeli jails

 

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Israeli night raid.