Pakistani academic: Islam and Christianity both preach peace and tolerance

[Roudy]

Add Atheism to the biggest reasons for war on this planet as well.

Are those Atheists Jewish bankers?

You can't be Jewish and an Athiest, ya neo Nazi dickhead.

Jews are also an ethnicity.

You Nazis want it both ways. A person can't be Jewish if he calls himself an Athiest.

If Jews aren't an ethnicity, what rights do they have to Israel?

Another example of a racist piece of shit wanting it both ways.

Thanks for confirming Jewish rights to Israel.

 

[Roudy]

I am laughing violently as this is so fucking stupid that it is funny!

Peace? Religion be it Christianity or islam are the single biggest reason for war on this planet.

Add Atheism to the biggest reasons for war on this planet as well.

Are those Atheists Jewish bankers?

You can't be Jewish and an Athiest, ya neo Nazi dickhead.

Of course you can be an atheist and a Jew.

I am essentially (I don't want to argue the semantics of "atheism") both of those things.

Nope. Can you be a Christian and an Atheist?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I am laughing violently as this is so fucking stupid that it is funny!

Peace? Religion be it Christianity or islam are the single biggest reason for war on this planet.

Add Atheism to the biggest reasons for war on this planet as well.

Are those Atheists Jewish bankers?

You can't be Jewish and an Athiest, ya neo Nazi dickhead.

Of course you can be an atheist and a Jew.

I am essentially (I don't want to argue the semantics of "atheism") both of those things.

Nope. Can you be a Christian and an Atheist?

Because, Christians aren't an ethnicity.

Most Jews have Semitic genes, they do form an ethnicity.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I am laughing violently as this is so fucking stupid that it is funny!

Peace? Religion be it Christianity or islam are the single biggest reason for war on this planet.

Add Atheism to the biggest reasons for war on this planet as well.

Are those Atheists Jewish bankers?

You can't be Jewish and an Athiest, ya neo Nazi dickhead.

Of course you can be an atheist and a Jew.

I am essentially (I don't want to argue the semantics of "atheism") both of those things.

Nope. Can you be a Christian and an Atheist?

I don't know if many people identify as such, but sure. In fact, I would guess that most "atheists" in this country have a Christmas tree, exchange gifts tomorrow, and have various other traditions based on the religion they left behind.

I am Jewish because my mother is Jewish, and so is her mother, and so on. I am Jewish because my great-grandmother left her shtetl in Poland and got on a boat. I am Jewish because I was raised to think of myself as a Jew.

I am an atheist because I was raised (by Jews) to not believe in any "God". I am an atheist because my grandfather was a scientist who broke boundaries and discovered things that no one knew before him. I am an atheist because that same grandfather wrote his own haggadah, assigning scientific explanations for all the "miracles" and "plagues".

I am Jewish because that same grandfather couldn't get a job under his given name, and had to change it.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Add Atheism to the biggest reasons for war on this planet as well.

Are those Atheists Jewish bankers?

You can't be Jewish and an Athiest, ya neo Nazi dickhead.

Of course you can be an atheist and a Jew.

I am essentially (I don't want to argue the semantics of "atheism") both of those things.

Nope. Can you be a Christian and an Atheist?

Because, Christians aren't an ethnicity.

Most Jews have Semitic genes, they do form an ethnicity.

Well, here's where you and I diverge.

I am a Jew.

I was adopted at birth, by a Jewish woman.

I am 6'5". I have blonde hair, blue eyes (with 20/20 vision).

I do not look like a Jew. I contain no Jewish "genes". And yet, I am a Jew.

 

[irosie91]

Are those Atheists Jewish bankers?

You can't be Jewish and an Athiest, ya neo Nazi dickhead.

Of course you can be an atheist and a Jew.

I am essentially (I don't want to argue the semantics of "atheism") both of those things.

Nope. Can you be a Christian and an Atheist?

Because, Christians aren't an ethnicity.

Most Jews have Semitic genes, they do form an ethnicity.

Well, here's where you and I diverge.

I am a Jew.

I was adopted at birth, by a Jewish woman.

I am 6'5". I have blonde hair, blue eyes (with 20/20 vision).

I do not look like a Jew. I contain no Jewish "genes". And yet, I am a Jew.

genetics was my forte as an undergraduate. I am 5'1" -----as a kid I had
freckles on my face and lots and lots of really COPPERY red streaks in my
hair. I grew up in a town chock full of Irish kids ----and even the Irish people
INSISTED I am Irish. I got jewish genes and so do you------gross
phenotype does not tell the story

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Matthew 10:34
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword

That's called metaphor. Ever heard of context, either? Read more of that chapter.
You must work for CNN.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Really? Only a fool would believe that. Islamic terrorists commit acts of terror because the murdering pedophile of a 'prophet' who started this sick religion commands them to do it. It's in the book. Look it up. Nowhere in the Bible will you see anything similar.

Pakistani academic: Islam and Christianity both preach peace and tolerance, minorities have equal rights in Pakistan

Nowhere in the Bible does the Christian God command atrocities? What about these? That's just the first 5 books of the Bible. I have lots more if that isn't enough.

GE 4:2-8 God's arbitrary preference of Abel's offering to that of Cain's provokes Cain to commit the first biblically recorded murder and kill his brother Abel.
GE 34:13-29 The Israelites kill Hamor, his son, and all the men of their village, taking as plunder their wealth, cattle, wives and children.
GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah's family and thereby makes himself the, etc."

You left out the Christian part of the Bible.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Really? Only a fool would believe that. Islamic terrorists commit acts of terror because the murdering pedophile of a 'prophet' who started this sick religion commands them to do it. It's in the book. Look it up. Nowhere in the Bible will you see anything similar.

Pakistani academic: Islam and Christianity both preach peace and tolerance, minorities have equal rights in Pakistan

Then why did this Christian group start massacring civilians on this date nine years ago, killing some 400, crushing skulls, trying to twist litltle girls' heads off, raping dozens of women, beheading people and burning people alive?

And why did this other Christian group kill and beat people for being black, Jewish, Catholic, labor organizers, drunks, debtors, communists or loose women --- also established on this date in 1865?

Why did this third Christian group set bombs all over the British Isles for years?

Why did this Christian bomb the Olympics, an abortion clinic and a gay bar?

Oh I gots lots more if you wanna go down Composition Fallacy Avenue. It's downhill all the way. You know that, right?

The usual bullshit.
Using the anecdotal or anomalous Christian terrorists or those who happen to be Christian but don't murder in the name of Christianity in order to qualify 80 million Muslim-centric terrorists often abetted by entire muslim theocracies.
Sounds like you have a hateful agenda.
Merry Christmas!

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

I am laughing violently as this is so fucking stupid that it is funny!

Peace? Religion be it Christianity or islam are the single biggest reason for war on this planet.

No, Godvernment loving Statists are the cause of all wars. YOU are part of the problem, not the solution

 

[asaratis]

Really? Only a fool would believe that. Islamic terrorists commit acts of terror because the murdering pedophile of a 'prophet' who started this sick religion commands them to do it. It's in the book. Look it up. Nowhere in the Bible will you see anything similar.

Pakistani academic: Islam and Christianity both preach peace and tolerance, minorities have equal rights in Pakistan

Nowhere in the Bible does the Christian God command atrocities? What about these? That's just the first 5 books of the Bible. I have lots more if that isn't enough.

GE 4:2-8 God's arbitrary preference of Abel's offering to that of Cain's provokes Cain to commit the first biblically recorded murder and kill his brother Abel.
GE 34:13-29 The Israelites kill Hamor, his son, and all the men of their village, taking as plunder their wealth, cattle, wives and children.
GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah's family and thereby makes himself the greatest mass murderer in history.
GE 19:26 God personally sees to it that Lot's wife is turned to a pillar of salt (for having looked behind her while fleeing the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah).
GE 38:9 "... whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked ..., so the Lord put him to death."
EX 2:12 Moses murders an Egyptian.
EX 7:1, 14, 9:14-16, 10:1-2, 11:7 The purpose of the devastation that God brings to the Egyptians is as follows:
to show that he is Lord;
to show that there is none like him in all the earth;
to show his great power;
to cause his name to be declared throughout the earth;
to give the Israelites something to talk about with their children;
to show that he makes a distinction between Israel and Egypt.
EX 9:22-25 A plague of hail from the Lord strikes down everything in the fields of Egypt both man and beast except in Goshen where the Israelites reside.
EX 12:29 The Lord kills all the first-born in the land of Egypt.
EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows down Amalek and his people.
EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly.
EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.
EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men.
LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before your sword."
LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children."
LE 26:29, DT 28:53, JE 19:9, EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends.
LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An example is given in JG 11:30-39)
NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great plague.
NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days because she and Aaron had spoken against Moses.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command.
NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open and swallow up the men and their households (including wives and children) because the men had been rebellious.
NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men.
NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700 people.
NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the Canaanites.
NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill many Israelites.
NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until there was not one survivor left ...."
NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun ...."
NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly."
NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you."

Quite telling that you quote only the Old Testament.

Try quoting the Quran. It is replete with orders by the demented pedophile, Muhammad to kill all non-believers.

The Quran's Verses of Violence

 

[Pogo]

Really? Only a fool would believe that. Islamic terrorists commit acts of terror because the murdering pedophile of a 'prophet' who started this sick religion commands them to do it. It's in the book. Look it up. Nowhere in the Bible will you see anything similar.

Pakistani academic: Islam and Christianity both preach peace and tolerance, minorities have equal rights in Pakistan

Then why did this Christian group start massacring civilians on this date nine years ago, killing some 400, crushing skulls, trying to twist litltle girls' heads off, raping dozens of women, beheading people and burning people alive?

And why did this other Christian group kill and beat people for being black, Jewish, Catholic, labor organizers, drunks, debtors, communists or loose women --- also established on this date in 1865?

Why did this third Christian group set bombs all over the British Isles for years?

Why did this Christian bomb the Olympics, an abortion clinic and a gay bar?

Oh I gots lots more if you wanna go down Composition Fallacy Avenue. It's downhill all the way. You know that, right?

The usual bullshit.
Using the anecdotal or anomalous Christian terrorists or those who happen to be Christian but don't murder in the name of Christianity in order to qualify 80 million Muslim-centric terrorists often abetted by entire muslim theocracies.
Sounds like you have a hateful agenda.
Merry Christmas!

And boom goes the dynamite. Walked right into the trap.

Yes, "when 'they' do it they do it for their religion; when 'we' do it they're outliers." SMH

Having it both ways: Priceless.

Mal-Wart musta had a Black Friday sale on Double Standards.

 

[BULLDOG]

I am laughing violently as this is so fucking stupid that it is funny!

Peace? Religion be it Christianity or islam are the single biggest reason for war on this planet.

Add Atheism to the biggest reasons for war on this planet as well.

Yes. Atheist being commanded to convert to one religion or the other or die has caused lots of violence.

Check again, Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot were Atheists, and killed in the name of their ideology. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Athiesm's hands is just as bloody as Christianity and Islam, if not more. Interesting that Leftie nutjobs always rise to defend Atheism though.

They killed to increase their power. not to advance atheism.

 

[antifa]

Matthew 10:34
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword

That's called metaphor. Ever heard of context, either? Read more of that chapter.
You must work for CNN.

Are you saying your bible is a book of peace?

 

[BULLDOG]

Really? Only a fool would believe that. Islamic terrorists commit acts of terror because the murdering pedophile of a 'prophet' who started this sick religion commands them to do it. It's in the book. Look it up. Nowhere in the Bible will you see anything similar.

Pakistani academic: Islam and Christianity both preach peace and tolerance, minorities have equal rights in Pakistan

Nowhere in the Bible does the Christian God command atrocities? What about these? That's just the first 5 books of the Bible. I have lots more if that isn't enough.

GE 4:2-8 God's arbitrary preference of Abel's offering to that of Cain's provokes Cain to commit the first biblically recorded murder and kill his brother Abel.
GE 34:13-29 The Israelites kill Hamor, his son, and all the men of their village, taking as plunder their wealth, cattle, wives and children.
GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah's family and thereby makes himself the, etc."

You left out the Christian part of the Bible.

I was responding to RWNJ who claimed nothing like what I listed was in the bible. However, Jesus was a Jew, and followed Jewish law from the old testiment. He also said

Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

And Jesus also said:

Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void.


This includes all the punishments for breaking the old testament law

 

[BULLDOG]

Really? Only a fool would believe that. Islamic terrorists commit acts of terror because the murdering pedophile of a 'prophet' who started this sick religion commands them to do it. It's in the book. Look it up. Nowhere in the Bible will you see anything similar.

Pakistani academic: Islam and Christianity both preach peace and tolerance, minorities have equal rights in Pakistan

Nowhere in the Bible does the Christian God command atrocities? What about these? That's just the first 5 books of the Bible. I have lots more if that isn't enough.

GE 4:2-8 God's arbitrary preference of Abel's offering to that of Cain's provokes Cain to commit the first biblically recorded murder and kill his brother Abel.
GE 34:13-29 The Israelites kill Hamor, his son, and all the men of their village, taking as plunder their wealth, cattle, wives and children.
GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah's family and thereby makes himself the greatest mass murderer in history.
GE 19:26 God personally sees to it that Lot's wife is turned to a pillar of salt (for having looked behind her while fleeing the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah).
GE 38:9 "... whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked ..., so the Lord put him to death."
EX 2:12 Moses murders an Egyptian.
EX 7:1, 14, 9:14-16, 10:1-2, 11:7 The purpose of the devastation that God brings to the Egyptians is as follows:
to show that he is Lord;
to show that there is none like him in all the earth;
to show his great power;
to cause his name to be declared throughout the earth;
to give the Israelites something to talk about with their children;
to show that he makes a distinction between Israel and Egypt.
EX 9:22-25 A plague of hail from the Lord strikes down everything in the fields of Egypt both man and beast except in Goshen where the Israelites reside.
EX 12:29 The Lord kills all the first-born in the land of Egypt.
EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows down Amalek and his people.
EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly.
EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.
EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men.
LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before your sword."
LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children."
LE 26:29, DT 28:53, JE 19:9, EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends.
LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An example is given in JG 11:30-39)
NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great plague.
NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days because she and Aaron had spoken against Moses.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command.
NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open and swallow up the men and their households (including wives and children) because the men had been rebellious.
NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men.
NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700 people.
NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the Canaanites.
NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill many Israelites.
NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until there was not one survivor left ...."
NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun ...."
NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly."
NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you."

Quite telling that you quote only the Old Testament.

Try quoting the Quran. It is replete with orders by the demented pedophile, Muhammad to kill all non-believers.

The Quran's Verses of Violence

I was responding to the statement that none of that as in the bible.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

This includes all the punishments for breaking the old testament law

Sorry moron, NO IT DOESN'T.

There is a VAST difference between the NATIONAL Law commanded to the Israelites 3,500 years ago as they replaced a WICKED people, and the COMMANDMENTS Jesus admonished us to observe.

Even you know them.

He summed up the TEN this way:

You shall love the Lord Your God with all your heart, soul and mind, and you shall love your neighbor as yourself.

Now shut the hell up, and quit trying to "teach" what you don't understand.

 

[Roudy]

Add Atheism to the biggest reasons for war on this planet as well.

Are those Atheists Jewish bankers?

You can't be Jewish and an Athiest, ya neo Nazi dickhead.

Of course you can be an atheist and a Jew.

I am essentially (I don't want to argue the semantics of "atheism") both of those things.

Nope. Can you be a Christian and an Atheist?

I don't know if many people identify as such, but sure. In fact, I would guess that most "atheists" in this country have a Christmas tree, exchange gifts tomorrow, and have various other traditions based on the religion they left behind.

I am Jewish because my mother is Jewish, and so is her mother, and so on. I am Jewish because my great-grandmother left her shtetl in Poland and got on a boat. I am Jewish because I was raised to think of myself as a Jew.

I am an atheist because I was raised (by Jews) to not believe in any "God". I am an atheist because my grandfather was a scientist who broke boundaries and discovered things that no one knew before him. I am an atheist because that same grandfather wrote his own haggadah, assigning scientific explanations for all the "miracles" and "plagues".

I am Jewish because that same grandfather couldn't get a job under his given name, and had to change it.

You are correct, mostly, Jew can be a culture, a people, and a religion. It can be one, both, or all three depending on the person. When it comes to Jews, however, you can be a Jew racially, but if you aren't following any of the traditions, tenements, or rituals of the religion whatsoever, then technically, you aren't a "Jew". I have a close childhood friend who like you, was born a Jew, but due to many difficult events in his life, never believed in God, and went on to marry two Christian "White" women and have kids from them. Therefore the only "Jew" in him was the fact that both his parents were Jews.

I on the other hand am what one might call a very secular Jew.

That aside, all I'm trying to say before the antisemite injected his bigotry into the discussion is, as many if not more people have been killed by Atheists, most of them not born Jews or affiliated with the people or religion in any way.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

A "Jew" is a descendant of Judah, ONE of the twelve tribes.

All the early Christians were still Jews, as were the atheists and communists.

Following the common religion of the modernday Jews is not what makes you a Jew. It IS about lineage.

 

[Roudy]

I am laughing violently as this is so fucking stupid that it is funny!

Peace? Religion be it Christianity or islam are the single biggest reason for war on this planet.

Add Atheism to the biggest reasons for war on this planet as well.

Yes. Atheist being commanded to convert to one religion or the other or die has caused lots of violence.

Check again, Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot were Atheists, and killed in the name of their ideology. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Athiesm's hands is just as bloody as Christianity and Islam, if not more. Interesting that Leftie nutjobs always rise to defend Atheism though.

They killed to increase their power. not to advance atheism.

And you think other religions did not and do not kill for power?