Overrun By illegals and now this

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    Thank you Bush admin. You are doing an outstanding job.




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    Perhaps your to stupid to have read the article. This started in 1990. This sort of garbage goes on all the time throughout all Presidents tenures. Long before Bush was President a Filipino Sailor died while on active duty stationed in the States. He had joined during the time [prior to 1984] when the Navy recruited IN the Philippines, he was not a US citizen and his wife was not either. INS ruled that since he had not entered the Country under a Visa nor had his wife, she was to be deported with in 2 weeks of his death. Only the intervention of Congress prevented her expulsion from the Country.
     
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    No one's afraid of the Filipino American voting bloc. They can lean on them all they want to.
     
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    This one's REALLY grasping for straws. NO ONE on either side of the aisle has or will touch the issue of illegal immigration.

    Bush's stance on illegal immigration is about as liberal as it gets, and he hardly had anything to do with the creation of the bureaucracy that is the US government.
     
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    God forbid they get labelled a 'racist' for wanting to uphold the federal LAWS, huh?

    Yes, but right NOW, he's the president. Americans are looking to HIM right now, to solve the issue. He actually ADVOCATES that illegals get amnesty, but talks about walls and fences and shit.

    While it may not be fair to blame him completely, it sure does rest on his shoulders at THIS point.

    And need I remind everyone who was president in 1990, when RGS says this all started?
     
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    This didn't start in 1990. The US war with Mexico in 1846 was over a border dispute. No REAL effort has been made by any President/administration nor Congress to enforce our Southern border since it was established.

    Oh, and it is Congress's responsibility to legislate, not the President's.
     
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    So the president should just sit on his ass and play politics, while a majority of the country wants something DONE about it?

    He represents us. He OUGHT to be going to congress and telling them to fucking ACT on it. Or his administration could draft their own legislation.

    After 9/11, how could any president justify allowing illegal immigrants to stay in this country? How can he be sure ANY of them are not part of a terrorist group? We're not just talking about Mexicans, we're talking about ALL illegals.

    The only reason he wants them to stay, is because the corporate lobby pressure on him and congress to keep them here is too great. It's about MONEY. Our national security is being sold out to corporate desires.

    If another 9/11 happens and it happens to be illegal immigrants involved, the blood will be on the hands of congress and the administration for not KICKING THEM THE FUCK OUT.
     
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    Stop trying to play the black or white only argument, or put words in my mouth. The lack of a frothing at the mouth indictment of the President does not mean I support his stance or hold to the opposite, entirely blameless extreme.

    The President DID try to do something. He does not have the support of his party nor his constituents on the topic so it failed.

    I blame Congress and the President equally for not representing the will of the majority in favor of pandering for votes.

    In fact, I don't see a need for any new legislation. I see a need to enforce the laws we already have.
     
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    He tried to pave the way for their citizenship via amnesty, correct?

    This is the only thing I don't agree with. They should be deported, and if they want to become US citizens, they can try again and do it LEGALLY, just like anyone else.

    We have a right to our own security through enforcement of our borders.
     

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