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I ask you, what are you getting at?
Then we should be getting stupider, right? But that isn't what is happening.Racial mixing has been going on since the country started, but that's a good cop out for you.
Yeah, I know, the rate has always been the same.
Really? How does it work?That's not how it works.
I asked you to show me where in that article it was written that Hispanics are engaging in overbreeding...again, not having a lot of babies but having babies with mainly their close relatives. I can't ignore something that you refuse to point out, lol.So you didn't actually have a point.
Yes. The point is you either don't understand the data or don't want to. You made the assertion and I provided the data.
Really? How does it work?That's not how it works.
On the whole, the better genes from each parent get passed on to the child. I can't imagine any species surviving for very long if this were not the case.
Then we should be getting stupider, right? But that isn't what is happening.Racial mixing has been going on since the country started, but that's a good cop out for you.
Yeah, I know, the rate has always been the same.
On the whole, the better genes from each parent get passed on to the child. I can't imagine any species surviving for very long if this were not the case.
Which btw, is why I'm a big proponent of racial mixing. It breeds better humans.
And why would racial mixing breed better humans? Are you saying that some races have 'better' traits than others?
Which btw, is why I'm a big proponent of racial mixing. It breeds better humans.
And why would racial mixing breed better humans? Are you saying that some races have 'better' traits than others?
Yes I am. Aren't you?
BTW, I have provided links and books for xotoxi to read which provide the data he claims he's looking for, but he doesn't seem to be interested. He has a certain view on this subject and I don't believe he is willing to change it.
I really don't know what you are trying to say. I've asked you to explain yourself more than once and for some reason you won't. I give up.I asked you to show me where in that article it was written that Hispanics are engaging in overbreeding...again, not having a lot of babies but having babies with mainly their close relatives. I can't ignore something that you refuse to point out, lol.Yes. The point is you either don't understand the data or don't want to. You made the assertion and I provided the data.
You're not going to find those statistics anywhere except in very small population centers like Iceland. The best you can hope for is to look at the population and the number of children being born for a given region. You've got a circular argument going here based on a faulty assertion.
Then we should be getting stupider, right? But that isn't what is happening.
Yeah, I know, the rate has always been the same.
Yes, it is happening. Again, there is plenty of data available if you would just look for it. Unfortunately, too many people on this board have 'opinions' and 'beliefs' and no desire to seek out the truth. (This is further evidence that people are getting stupider.)
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/027597510X/fourmilabwwwfour]Amazon.com: IQ and the Wealth of Nations: Richard Lynn, Tatu Vanhanen: Books[/ame]
Global IQ: 1950-2050
In this article, the authors argue that the overwhelming
portion of the literature on intelligence, race, and genetics
is based on folk taxonomies rather than scientific analysis.
They suggest that because theorists of intelligence disagree
as to what it is, any consideration of its relationships to
other constructs must be tentative at best. They further
argue that race is a social construction with no scientific
definition. Thus, studies of the relationship between race
and other constructs may serve social ends but cannot
serve scientific ends. No gene has yet been conclusively
linked to intelligence, so attempts to provide a compelling
genetic link of race to intelligence are not feasible at this
time. The authors also show that heritability, a behavior-
genetic concept, is inadequate in regard to providing such
a link.
A number of scholars claim to have studied rela-
tionships among intelligence, race, and genetics
(e.g., Herrnstein & Murray, 1994; Rushton,
1995). The thesis of this article is that these studies are not
grounded in scientifically derived constructs but rather in
folk beliefs about them. There is a big difference between
studying relationships between constructs and folk beliefs
regarding such relationships. The bigger problem, how-
ever, is when one studies the latter but believes one is
studying the former.
In this article, we first review the nature of intelli-
gence. We then discuss the relationship between intelli-
gence and race. Finally, we reflect upon the relationships
among intelligence, race, and genetics.
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Would you mind listing by ethic group what you believe to be the most intelligent to the least intelligent. That would be teh awesome.Which btw, is why I'm a big proponent of racial mixing. It breeds better humans.
And why would racial mixing breed better humans? Are you saying that some races have 'better' traits than others?
Yes I am. Aren't you?
This is pretty funny. xsited1 thinks mixing the races is making us stupid and Mani thinks mixing the races is making us smarter.Then we should be getting stupider, right? But that isn't what is happening.
Yes, it is happening. Again, there is plenty of data available if you would just look for it. Unfortunately, too many people on this board have 'opinions' and 'beliefs' and no desire to seek out the truth. (This is further evidence that people are getting stupider.)
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/027597510X/fourmilabwwwfour"]Amazon.com: IQ and the Wealth of Nations: Richard Lynn, Tatu Vanhanen: Books[/ame]
Global IQ: 1950-2050
Intelligence, Race, and Genetics
In this article, the authors argue that the overwhelming
portion of the literature on intelligence, race, and genetics
is based on folk taxonomies rather than scientific analysis.
They suggest that because theorists of intelligence disagree
as to what it is, any consideration of its relationships to
other constructs must be tentative at best. They further
argue that race is a social construction with no scientific
definition. Thus, studies of the relationship between race
and other constructs may serve social ends but cannot
serve scientific ends. No gene has yet been conclusively
linked to intelligence, so attempts to provide a compelling
genetic link of race to intelligence are not feasible at this
time. The authors also show that heritability, a behavior-
genetic concept, is inadequate in regard to providing such
a link.
A number of scholars claim to have studied rela-
tionships among intelligence, race, and genetics
(e.g., Herrnstein & Murray, 1994; Rushton,
1995). The thesis of this article is that these studies are not
grounded in scientifically derived constructs but rather in
folk beliefs about them. There is a big difference between
studying relationships between constructs and folk beliefs
regarding such relationships. The bigger problem, how-
ever, is when one studies the latter but believes one is
studying the former.
In this article, we first review the nature of intelli-
gence. We then discuss the relationship between intelli-
gence and race. Finally, we reflect upon the relationships
among intelligence, race, and genetics.
Intelligence, Race, and Genetics
This is pretty funny. xsited1 thinks mixing the races is making us stupid and Mani thinks mixing the races is making us smarter.
I just don't know what to believe
Would you mind listing by ethic group what you believe to be the most intelligent to the least intelligent. That would be teh awesome.And why would racial mixing breed better humans? Are you saying that some races have 'better' traits than others?
Yes I am. Aren't you?
Then maybe you can get with William Joyce since you both believe something without credible evidence, but a least you can convince him to stop being a separatist and instead impregnate some black chick for the betterment of humanity.
aww...did I hurt your little feelings?Would you mind listing by ethic group what you believe to be the most intelligent to the least intelligent. That would be teh awesome.Yes I am. Aren't you?
Then maybe you can get with William Joyce since you both believe something without credible evidence, but a least you can convince him to stop being a separatist and instead impregnate some black chick for the betterment of humanity.
I don't have any such list. And I honestly don't see why it would do any good.
I think people of different origins evolved differently over time and as a result, have different traits. I think people of all origins have something positive to contribute to the gene pool. In your mind that makes me a racist. I guess you'd prefer everyone just stick with their own kind. But of course that too is racist, only much worse.
This is pretty funny. xsited1 thinks mixing the races is making us stupid and Mani thinks mixing the races is making us smarter.Yes, it is happening. Again, there is plenty of data available if you would just look for it. Unfortunately, too many people on this board have 'opinions' and 'beliefs' and no desire to seek out the truth. (This is further evidence that people are getting stupider.)
Amazon.com: IQ and the Wealth of Nations: Richard Lynn, Tatu Vanhanen: Books
Global IQ: 1950-2050
Intelligence, Race, and Genetics
In this article, the authors argue that the overwhelming
portion of the literature on intelligence, race, and genetics
is based on folk taxonomies rather than scientific analysis.
They suggest that because theorists of intelligence disagree
as to what it is, any consideration of its relationships to
other constructs must be tentative at best. They further
argue that race is a social construction with no scientific
definition. Thus, studies of the relationship between race
and other constructs may serve social ends but cannot
serve scientific ends. No gene has yet been conclusively
linked to intelligence, so attempts to provide a compelling
genetic link of race to intelligence are not feasible at this
time. The authors also show that heritability, a behavior-
genetic concept, is inadequate in regard to providing such
a link.
A number of scholars claim to have studied rela-
tionships among intelligence, race, and genetics
(e.g., Herrnstein & Murray, 1994; Rushton,
1995). The thesis of this article is that these studies are not
grounded in scientifically derived constructs but rather in
folk beliefs about them. There is a big difference between
studying relationships between constructs and folk beliefs
regarding such relationships. The bigger problem, how-
ever, is when one studies the latter but believes one is
studying the former.
In this article, we first review the nature of intelli-
gence. We then discuss the relationship between intelli-
gence and race. Finally, we reflect upon the relationships
among intelligence, race, and genetics.
Intelligence, Race, and Genetics
I just don't know what to believe
Intelligence, Race, and GeneticsIntelligence
To study the interrelationships among intelligence, race,
and genetics, we need to know what intelligence is. We do
not know. Hence, any conclusions about its relationships to
other constructs will be, at best, tentative.
Formal Theories of Intelligence
One way to figure out what intelligence is has been to ask
experts. Two major symposia have done so (Intelligence
and Its Measurement, 1921; Sternberg & Detterman,
1986). Each of the roughly two dozen definitions produced
in each symposium was different. There were some com-
mon threads, such as the importance of adaptation to the
environment and of the ability to learn, but these constructs
themselves are not well specified. Moreover, very few tests
of intelligence directly measure either one. Tests do not
offer adaptive tasks one is likely to face in everyday life
The way intelligence is usually defined in studies of
the alleged relationships among intelligence, race, and
genetics is in terms of Borings (1923) operational defini-
tion of intelligence as whatever it is that IQ tests measure.
This definition is unsatisfactory for at least three different
reasons. First, it is circular, defining the construct in terms
of the operation and the operation in terms of the con-
struct. Second, so-called IQ tests do not all measure the
same thing (Mackintosh, 1998). Third, as indicated, theo-
rists of intelligence do not themselves agree as to what
intelligence is
