Obama did what seven Presidents before him tried to do, and failed

[Political Junky]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

The reason it was impossible, was that everyone knew it would gravely damage the country, and would do far more harm than good. As it is doing now.

That Obama and his regime did it anyway, is testimony to his stupidity and blinders-on ideological agenda that never checks the actual results of his programs.

That's what conservatives said about Medicare...and now, even Republicans don't want anyone messing with it....

A large majority of Republicans (69 percent) say they are opposed to reducing Medicare benefits, even in the service of debt reduction.
Republicans, like Democrats, opposed to cutting Medicare benefits, wary of privatization - Democratic Underground

When Paul Ryan gets through with Medicare it won't be worth a damn.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

The name "Castro" alongside Obama is pretty fitting.

 

[dr.d]

Damn...it's true...all the so-called conservatives on these forums do is complain and try to outdo each other with what they apparently see as clever insults and name calling directed at the prez and his supporters...
No wonder all they can bring to prez races lately is clown car..after clown car...


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[Stephanie]

When they have make up crap about a President who has almost 60% disapproval by the people...You know you got hosed big time

Maybe we'll see his face soon on the side of buildings we can all bow to next?

what a joke...this was forced on us by deception, lying and against our will

 

[dr.d]

When they have make up crap about a President who has almost 60% disapproval by the people...You know you got hosed big time

Maybe we'll see his face soon on the side of buildings we can all bow to next?

what a joke...this was forced on us by deception, lying and against our will

If all ur gonna do is bitch...can u at least get some new material...not just recycling the "bowing" etc. crap....
Incidentally...ur boys Nixon and W had lower ratings...and they actually did shit like crimes and lying us into a pointless, lethal and costly war....killing thousands of Americans and over 100,000 of innocent PEOPLE in a nation that didn't attack us...
All Obama has done to earn ur shit storm is promote introduce programs and changes designed to ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE, not hurt or kill them; like healthcare, pay equity for women, gay rights, FEMA reform, minimum wage boost...and much more...only assholes like u have managed to twist those efforts into something evil..and have severe memory loss about who actually created the problems Obama has had to solve...before he could even get to what he wants to do...
And how is Obama being elected twice with reasonable margins having him "forced" on u...?
W was the one "forced" on us by a right leaning SCOTUS after Gore actually won the popular vote u'know...and W's administration is actually the one who created most of the problems u bitch about, like the deep recession, job loss and war fatigue...
Or maybe U DON'T KNOW...ignorance is bliss I guess.


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[Iceweasel]

When they have make up crap about a President who has almost 60% disapproval by the people...You know you got hosed big time

Maybe we'll see his face soon on the side of buildings we can all bow to next?

what a joke...this was forced on us by deception, lying and against our will

If all ur gonna do is bitch...can u at least get some new material...not just recycling the "bowing" etc. crap....

Irony alert....

Incidentally...ur boys Nixon and W had lower ratings...and they actually did shit like crimes and lying us into a pointless, lethal and costly war....killing thousands of Americans and over 100,000 of innocent PEOPLE in a nation that didn't attack us...

The dems voted for and fund them.

All Obama has done to earn ur shit storm is promote introduce programs and changes designed to ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE, not hurt or kill them; like healthcare, pay equity for women, gay rights, FEMA reform, minimum wage boost...and much more...only assholes like u have managed to twist those efforts into something evil..and have severe memory loss about who actually created the problems Obama has had to solve...before he could even get to what he wants to do...
And how is Obama being elected twice with reasonable margins having him "forced" on u...?
W was the one "forced" on us by a right leaning SCOTUS after Gore actually won the popular vote u'know...and W's administration is actually the one who created most of the problems u bitch about, like the deep recession, job loss and war fatigue...
Or maybe U DON'T KNOW...ignorance is bliss I guess.

Elections are not won by popular vote in this country. And Florida had exceeded it's voting deadlines. And we all know that libs will count votes until they come up right, like they did for the gubernatorial election here on the third try by including discarded ballots. You must have a cushy government job because the rest of the country is suffering on these failed policies. Ignorance apparently is bliss.

 

[g5000]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

ObamaCare is not UHC.

You did not know this? INCREDIBLE!

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

The reason it was impossible, was that everyone knew it would gravely damage the country, and would do far more harm than good. As it is doing now.

That Obama and his regime did it anyway, is testimony to his stupidity and blinders-on ideological agenda that never checks the actual results of his programs.

That's what conservatives said about Medicare...and now, even Republicans don't want anyone messing with it....

A large majority of Republicans (69 percent) say they are opposed to reducing Medicare benefits, even in the service of debt reduction.
Republicans, like Democrats, opposed to cutting Medicare benefits, wary of privatization - Democratic Underground

People easily become addicted to entitlements. That's why so many of us hate Dimocrats. They are no different than your neighborhood drug dealer, whose goal is to get as many people as possible dependent on him.
Once Americans get a taste of having the government begin to manage their healthcare, they'll soon want more, and within a few years they'll be expecting full blown coverage provided by the government.

I'm always amazed at how many Americans there are living today that cannot seem to manage their own lives and expect the government to provide as much for them as possible.
It's sad, that's not what the founding ideals of this country were all about.

It used to be "ask not, what your country can do for you. Ask, what you can do for your country"

Todays Dims, it's "ask not, what you country can do for you. DEMAND IT !!!"

 

[Mertex]

The reason it was impossible, was that everyone knew it would gravely damage the country, and would do far more harm than good. As it is doing now.

That Obama and his regime did it anyway, is testimony to his stupidity and blinders-on ideological agenda that never checks the actual results of his programs.

That's what conservatives said about Medicare...and now, even Republicans don't want anyone messing with it....

A large majority of Republicans (69 percent) say they are opposed to reducing Medicare benefits, even in the service of debt reduction.
Republicans, like Democrats, opposed to cutting Medicare benefits, wary of privatization - Democratic Underground

People easily become addicted to entitlements. That's why so many of us hate Dimocrats. They are no different than your neighborhood drug dealer, whose goal is to get as many people as possible dependent on him.
Once Americans get a taste of having the government begin to manage their healthcare, they'll soon want more, and within a few years they'll be expecting full blown coverage provided by the government.

I'm always amazed at how many Americans there are living today that cannot seem to manage their own lives and expect the government to provide as much for them as possible.
It's sad, that's not what the founding ideals of this country were all about.

It used to be "ask not, what your country can do for you. Ask, what you can do for your country"

Todays Dims, it's "ask not, what you country can do for you. DEMAND IT !!!"

What I hear you saying is you don't mind Insurance Companies hiking their premiums every year and paying thousands of dollars for a few dollars worth of care, like they have been doing for years and now Obamacare is putting a stop to it. You don't mind that many people could not afford healthcare, because you are able to pay whatever the insurance company demands, and you don't care about those that can't. You also don't care that those who couldn't afford health care had to go to the Emergency Room for treatment that us taxpayers have to pick up the tab for, because you don't get a bill for it, so you actually don't know how much you are being soaked.

Yes, I understand why conservatives don't like Democrats, because Democrats, who are now the wealthiest, care about others and have an interest in our country, not just in being in control.

 

[Politico]

So since Obama had to back off of single payer because the GOP was threatening mass suicide, is it now his fault that we don't have it. You realize that this circular manner of debate is one reason the GOP is failing in nation elections?

NO! usually comes back to bite you one day.

Whoever's fault it is, the fact remains that Obama did not achieve what Castro claimed that he achieved.

Castro's claim is Pants on Fire false.

That.

 

[Old Rocks]

The question is Are we better off with it? Better off simply
1. Is there more people insured?
2. More innovation and cures?
3. The system is more efferent?

If not then why not?

1. Yes.

2. Not yet, but the ACA is just getting off of the ground.

3. Don't know yet, hard to be less efficient than what it is replacing. We are still paying more for less, with less positive results than any other democratic industrial nation. But, after 2016, mybe the ACA will be replaced with a real Single Payer Universal Health Care System. And then we can leave the 19th century and join the other nations in the 21st century.

 

[The Rabbi]

That's what conservatives said about Medicare...and now, even Republicans don't want anyone messing with it....

A large majority of Republicans (69 percent) say they are opposed to reducing Medicare benefits, even in the service of debt reduction.
Republicans, like Democrats, opposed to cutting Medicare benefits, wary of privatization - Democratic Underground

People easily become addicted to entitlements. That's why so many of us hate Dimocrats. They are no different than your neighborhood drug dealer, whose goal is to get as many people as possible dependent on him.
Once Americans get a taste of having the government begin to manage their healthcare, they'll soon want more, and within a few years they'll be expecting full blown coverage provided by the government.

I'm always amazed at how many Americans there are living today that cannot seem to manage their own lives and expect the government to provide as much for them as possible.
It's sad, that's not what the founding ideals of this country were all about.

It used to be "ask not, what your country can do for you. Ask, what you can do for your country"

Todays Dims, it's "ask not, what you country can do for you. DEMAND IT !!!"

What I hear you saying is you don't mind Insurance Companies hiking their premiums every year and paying thousands of dollars for a few dollars worth of care, like they have been doing for years and now Obamacare is putting a stop to it. You don't mind that many people could not afford healthcare, because you are able to pay whatever the insurance company demands, and you don't care about those that can't. You also don't care that those who couldn't afford health care had to go to the Emergency Room for treatment that us taxpayers have to pick up the tab for, because you don't get a bill for it, so you actually don't know how much you are being soaked.

Yes, I understand why conservatives don't like Democrats, because Democrats, who are now the wealthiest, care about others and have an interest in our country, not just in being in control.

You are seriously ill informed and stupid. The whole point of Obamacare was for insurance companies to get more insureds that they would overcharge. Obamacare makes the scenario you laid out WORSE, not better.
Do you know anything that is true?

 

[dr.d]

Actually Rabbi...U are the stupid party that keeps insisting something "failed" when it just got off the ground....and ignorant for not recognizing that for a program like the ACA to be viable in our capitalist nation...there would have to be some benefit to the private sector ( the insurance companies).
What's wrong with benefitting that AND access to decent health and medical services For more Americans? Or aren't U "prio life"?


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[The Rabbi]

Actually Rabbi...U are the stupid party that keeps insisting something "failed" when it just got off the ground....and ignorant for not recognizing that for a program like the ACA to be viable in our capitalist nation...there would have to be some benefit to the private sector ( the insurance companies).
What's wrong with benefitting that AND access to decent health and medical services For more Americans? Or aren't U "prio life"?


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Arent shitbags like you always blaming greedy private business? But now since Obamacare relies on them they're A-OK. Gawd you people are stupid hypocrites from the get-go.

The program is a failure. The website sucks. We have no idea how many people signed up. We have no idea how many people paid. We do seem to know that the number of 18-35 year olds is about 28%, when the magic number to make things work is 40%. We know that people will pay the penalty instead of buying insurance until they get sick. We know that the program will see rising costs and eventually rationed care. Because that's what happens every time crap like this becomes law.

 

[francoHFW]

No, dumbass, corporations need to be well regulated, that WAS the problem with our shytty Pub scam of a system.

The website is good now, the number of young people needed was 27% (idiot), transparent competition WILL work. Change the channel...all your facts are Pubcrappe.

 

[Claudette]

um....we don't have universal healthcare

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I agree.

What we do have is another costly entitlement that the taxpayers will be on the hook for.

The only people who will like the ACA are those the rest of us will be paying for.

The ACA is a POS bill that never should have been passed. The only reason it was passed is because the Dems had the majority. The Dems who never bothered to read the POS.

As soon as folks get a load of their deductables and figure out the ACA I think the Dems will be in trouble. They passed this POS on their own without one Rep vote.

I think its gonna suck to be them come election time.