Obama did what seven Presidents before him tried to do, and failed

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PolitiFact judged the veracity of the statement that 7 presidents tried to get healthcare for all Americans.

They failed to judge the veracity of the claim that Obama achieved it.

Obama did not achieve it. So it doesn't matter how many presidents tried before him. He didn't accomplish it either.

Castro's claim is Pants on Fire false.

Now its pants on fire huh?

If a banana said it they would've aPEELED it too pbbt

Yes, Pants on Fire is the likely grade a Republican making a comparably false statement would have received from PolitiFact.

"Seven presidents before him -- Republicans and Democrats -- tried to expand health care to all Americans," Castro said. "President Obama got it done."

Obama did not get it done. Period. He did not succeed in expanding health care to all Americans.

No more than all Americans already had health care. Anyone can theoretically go to an emergency room. That was true before and is still true. But as far as any other definition of expanding health care to all Americans, Obama did not get it done.

So Castro's basic premise is false and it doesn't matter how many presidents tried it before.

If four tried it before Obama, then there are now five failures. If seven tried it before Obama, then there are now eight failures.

"President Obama got it done."

Well I say the likely grade they wouldve gotten would've been untrue or better. See how flimsy your "logic" is?

Probably not

 

[Stephanie]

Report: O-Care to save large corporations hundreds of billions

http://www.usmessageboard.com/obama...rations-hundreds-of-billions.html#post9031313

 

[dr.d]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

TRUE THAT...in addition to being remembered for getting OBL which several other presidents have tried to do and failed...
And THAT without dragging us into yet another war costing thousands of lives and debilitating us morally and economically...while ending the two futile and expensive wars started by the previous fool of a prez who tried to get OBL and failed...



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[Stephanie]

How many times can they spike Bin Ladens head?

up to 1000 now and don't forget he saved the whole wide world too

he be superman..lets all bow

 

[The Rabbi]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

TRUE THAT...in addition to being remembered for getting OBL which several other presidents have tried to do and failed...
And THAT without dragging us into yet another war costing thousands of lives and debilitating us morally and economically...while ending the two futile and expensive wars started by the previous fool of a prez who tried to get OBL and failed...


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Um, the Afghan War isn't over.
Um, Bush negotiated the end of the Iraq War.
Um, you are yet another ill informed idiot posting here.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

The reason it was impossible, was that everyone knew it would gravely damage the country, and would do far more harm than good. As it is doing now.

That Obama and his regime did it anyway, is testimony to his stupidity and blinders-on ideological agenda that never checks the actual results of his programs.

Cheering Obama for that, is like cheering the captain of the Titanic for finally managing to sink an "unsinkable" ship when nobody else thought it could be done.

 

[R.D.]

November is coming and Obamacare is gaining in popularity every day.

Oh, I am still waiting for Sarah Palin's Death Panels....yeah, one of her classic quotes.

'Death Panels' at VA? Veterans allowed to die while on secret list - Arlington Political Buzz | Examiner.com

 

[Amelia]

Now its pants on fire huh?

If a banana said it they would've aPEELED it too pbbt

Yes, Pants on Fire is the likely grade a Republican making a comparably false statement would have received from PolitiFact.




Obama did not get it done. Period. He did not succeed in expanding health care to all Americans.

No more than all Americans already had health care. Anyone can theoretically go to an emergency room. That was true before and is still true. But as far as any other definition of expanding health care to all Americans, Obama did not get it done.

So Castro's basic premise is false and it doesn't matter how many presidents tried it before.

If four tried it before Obama, then there are now five failures. If seven tried it before Obama, then there are now eight failures.

"President Obama got it done."

Well I say the likely grade they wouldve gotten would've been untrue or better. See how flimsy your "logic" is?

Probably not

So if they would have gotten untrue while Castro got "mostly true" then that makes my case for the bias. Thank you. This is like pulling teeth.

 

[Amelia]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

One scary thing is that Obama might actually be remembered for doing this, even though he didn't.

That's the phenomenon which shows how imperiled the Republic is.

Why the need to create legends and promote lies about a mediocre president while he is still in office?

Where is the resistance from those whose job it is to report on facts?

That shows how little Democrats and journalists at large care about accomplishing anything positive. They could promote something positive and honest and build a coalition around that, or they could promote a lie and say it was something positive. They chose the lie over doing the work needed to do something good.

 

[Little-Acorn]

That shows how little Democrats and journalists at large care about accomplishing anything positive. They could promote something positive and honest

Not without going against their own agenda.

 

[Zander]

Julian Castro is, like all Democrats, a lousy liar. We do not have Universal Health Care.

Obamacare did one thing- added a layer of government bureaucracy to a broken system. It's still broken. Now it just costs more......

 

[natstew]

November is coming and Obamacare is gaining in popularity every day.

Oh, I am still waiting for Sarah Palin's Death Panels....yeah, one of her classic quotes.

A death panel under any other name is still a death panel, regardless of your lies.
ObamaCare ?death panel? faces growing opposition from Democrats | TheHill

Public awareness of the board shot up last year when Palin called it a “death panel,” connecting the IPAB to her previous attacks on a proposal to encourage end-of-life planning in the Affordable Care Act.

“Though I was called a liar for calling it like it is, many of these accusers finally saw that ObamaCare did in fact create a panel of faceless bureaucrats who have the power to make life and death decisions about healthcare funding,” Palin wrote on Facebook.

This claim experienced a revival on the right after Dean published his op-ed, which argued that the board would ultimately ration care for Medicare patients.

“The IPAB will be able to stop certain treatments its members do not favor by simply setting rates to levels where no doctor or hospital will perform them,” Dean wrote in The Wall Street Journal.

“Getting rid of the IPAB is something Democrats and Republicans ought to agree on.”

The piece quickly went viral, prompting conservative bloggers and Fox News hosts to cheer: “Dean confirms that Sarah Palin was right!”



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[francoHFW]

That's end of life counseling, dingbats, and is ONLY that. Could save tons of money AND help family and doctors...the counselors have NO POWER to decide.

ACA is all about transparent competition between insurers, hospitals, and doctors. NO ONE who's not bought off believes prices will do anything but go down.

THE ONLY THING KEEPING THIS FROM BEING UNIVERSAL (AT LEAST IN A FEW YEARS) IS MINDLESS RED STATE OBSTRUCTION OF MEDICAID- 5.7 MILLION AT THE MOMENT. PUBS WILL PAY.

 

[Harry Dresden]

That's end of life counseling, dingbats, and is ONLY that. Could save tons of money AND help family and doctors...the counselors have NO POWER to decide.

ACA is all about transparent competition between insurers, hospitals, and doctors. NO ONE who's not bought off believes prices will do anything but go down.

THE ONLY THING KEEPING THIS FROM BEING UNIVERSAL (AT LEAST IN A FEW YEARS) IS MINDLESS RED STATE OBSTRUCTION OF MEDICAID- 5.7 MILLION AT THE MOMENT. PUBS WILL PAY.

so Frankie what do they tell you in the Counseling?.....how did your session go?....

 

[Little-Acorn]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

The reason it was impossible, was that everyone knew it would gravely damage the country, and would do far more harm than good. As it is doing now.

That Obama and his regime did it anyway, is testimony to his stupidity and blinders-on ideological agenda that never checks the actual results of his programs.

 

[dr.d]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

TRUE THAT...in addition to being remembered for getting OBL which several other presidents have tried to do and failed...
And THAT without dragging us into yet another war costing thousands of lives and debilitating us morally and economically...while ending the two futile and expensive wars started by the previous fool of a prez who tried to get OBL and failed...


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Um, the Afghan War isn't over.
Um, Bush negotiated the end of the Iraq War.
Um, you are yet another ill informed idiot posting here.

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[dr.d]

TRUE THAT...in addition to being remembered for getting OBL which several other presidents have tried to do and failed...
And THAT without dragging us into yet another war costing thousands of lives and debilitating us morally and economically...while ending the two futile and expensive wars started by the previous fool of a prez who tried to get OBL and failed...


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Um, the Afghan War isn't over.
Um, Bush negotiated the end of the Iraq War.
Um, you are yet another ill informed idiot posting here.

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Talk about revisionist history...W DID NOTHING BUT START WARS HE COULDN't FINISH And DRIVE OUR ECONOMY INTO RECESSION THRU RECKLESS SPENDING WHILE CUTTING TAXES...Leaving the resulting mess for our current prez to clean up...and ur just too Foxed out and be-Limbaughed to see the truth.


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[Clementine]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

You see, the reason previous presidents couldn't make it happen was because they didn't have support of congress. Neither did Obama, but what he had that others didn't was a penchant for doing things the Chicago way.

So, they waited till a bill passed the House and they gutted it and put ACA in it's place. Then the Dem-controlled senate passed it. The revenue-raising ACA bill did not pass the House and, therefore, is not constitutional. Also, Obama told many lies to the American people in order to prevent the country from rejecting it. He said it wasn't a tax and it could not be a tax because it did not pass the House. When the law was challenged, Obama lied again and told SCOTUS that it was a tax, not a law forcing people into commerce, and because he declared it a tax, they upheld it. After that, it went back to not being a tax.

It's a tax. It's not a tax. Both lies must hold up to keep it legal and only useful idiots will buy into the bullshit. That takes a special kind of stupid.

Telling two lies to make Obamacare sound legal is not something to be proud of. The only reason the Obama administration was able to force this disaster on the American people is because he doesn't give a shit about our constitution or laws.

What makes it worse is that ACA isn't about affordable health care. People 75 and over can't even get treatment for serious illnesses. Many doctors and hospitals won't accept Obamacare patients. Research hospitals, like the Mayo, will not accept Obamacare patients. The majority of cancer treatment centers won't accept Obamacare patients. The cost of Obamacare is way higher than health care would have been without it and less people will be covered. The Dems don't give a shit about the uninsured now. It doesn't matter anymore because they got the bill passed and now have even more control over our lives. That's why they did this.

 

[Mertex]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

Yes he will, and conservatives, all they have tried to do is discredit it and try to repeal it. Bookmark this.....they will want to take credit for it in the future....count on it.

 

[Mertex]

Julian Castro says seven presidents before Barack Obama sought universal health care | PolitiFact

He will be remembered as the President who did what many people thought was impossible. INCREDIBLE!

The reason it was impossible, was that everyone knew it would gravely damage the country, and would do far more harm than good. As it is doing now.

That Obama and his regime did it anyway, is testimony to his stupidity and blinders-on ideological agenda that never checks the actual results of his programs.

That's what conservatives said about Medicare...and now, even Republicans don't want anyone messing with it....

A large majority of Republicans (69 percent) say they are opposed to reducing Medicare benefits, even in the service of debt reduction.
Republicans, like Democrats, opposed to cutting Medicare benefits, wary of privatization - Democratic Underground