Obama as Rebuttal to Marx

[Syriusly]

I don't understand PCs obsessive hatred of the Marx Brothers.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

I don't understand PCs obsessive hatred of the Marx Brothers.....

Don't give up the day job.

 

[Skylar]

I don't understand PCs obsessive hatred of the Marx Brothers.....

Laughing....PC doesn't care about Marx, the Marx brothers or totalitarianism. As per her own argument, public education and child labor laws are both Marxist and totalitarian.

And she won't condemn either.

 

[Moonglow]

You better worry more about the communist in North Korea and China and stop trying to split people in the USA with your rhetoric...We can see your fifth column antics.....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

1. Obama's reign in America is, in one way at least, a dramatic reversal of one of Marx's basic tenets.

I'll get to that…..



2. But first, the context:

While there are myriad comparisons able to be made between Liberalism and its totalitarian cousins, there are actually some….significant…. differences.
The most obvious is the wholesale slaughter of its citizens.

Repressed, yes, marginalizes and discriminated against, but none of the annihilation the world has witnessed under the Bolsheviks and the Nazis.
This doesn't mean that the thought to do so in no present in American totalitarians….but there are conditions that, up to now, work to block same:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Jonah Goldberg



a. Hold on, you say…..the icon of Liberals/Democrats penned up American citizens in concentration camps…..
True. But I did say there are ' there are myriad comparisons.'



3. The most basic requirement for liberty is the right to private property ownership. The Founders knew that: they had studied John Locke. But the followers of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx had very different views to impose on the less astute in America.
You might take a look at this:
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

a. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

b. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

c. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

The Democrats are right there with Marx:
a. "Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

b. ....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University

c. President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”





So far, we've seen only the similarities and consubstantiations of Obamaunism and communism.

A big difference….
…coming up.

Yeah, totalitarianism doesn't mean what you think it means. As Obama wasn't a totalitarian. Nor has any president been, ever. Nor is taxing capital gains 'communism'.

And riddle me this: Are you against public education and child labor laws? Because they're part of the Communist Manifesto's 10 planks too. Either you have to reject both.....or acknowledge that you too 'just choose from what works'.

So Michelangelo would not be allowed to apprentice for the Medici's because that's against Federal Laws

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Whatever FDR did to Japanese Americans was nothing compared to what the GOP would have done... Many thanks to the GOP for starting that Great Depression which gave rise to militarists and Chaos around the world... Much like the mess we're in now. Their greed and Corruption cost the US 8 trillion dollars this time, ditto Europe and the rest of the modern world, and absolutely wrecked the economy of Africa and the Middle East and Venezuela....

Blah blah blah....FDR locked up Japanese because he's a fucking scumbag

 

[Skylar]

1. Obama's reign in America is, in one way at least, a dramatic reversal of one of Marx's basic tenets.

I'll get to that…..



2. But first, the context:

While there are myriad comparisons able to be made between Liberalism and its totalitarian cousins, there are actually some….significant…. differences.
The most obvious is the wholesale slaughter of its citizens.

Repressed, yes, marginalizes and discriminated against, but none of the annihilation the world has witnessed under the Bolsheviks and the Nazis.
This doesn't mean that the thought to do so in no present in American totalitarians….but there are conditions that, up to now, work to block same:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Jonah Goldberg



a. Hold on, you say…..the icon of Liberals/Democrats penned up American citizens in concentration camps…..
True. But I did say there are ' there are myriad comparisons.'



3. The most basic requirement for liberty is the right to private property ownership. The Founders knew that: they had studied John Locke. But the followers of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx had very different views to impose on the less astute in America.
You might take a look at this:
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

a. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

b. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

c. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

The Democrats are right there with Marx:
a. "Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

b. ....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University

c. President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”





So far, we've seen only the similarities and consubstantiations of Obamaunism and communism.

A big difference….
…coming up.

Yeah, totalitarianism doesn't mean what you think it means. As Obama wasn't a totalitarian. Nor has any president been, ever. Nor is taxing capital gains 'communism'.

And riddle me this: Are you against public education and child labor laws? Because they're part of the Communist Manifesto's 10 planks too. Either you have to reject both.....or acknowledge that you too 'just choose from what works'.

So Michelangelo would not be allowed to apprentice for the Medici's because that's against Federal Laws

There were no Federal Laws during the era of Michelangelo and Medici.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

1. Obama's reign in America is, in one way at least, a dramatic reversal of one of Marx's basic tenets.

I'll get to that…..



2. But first, the context:

While there are myriad comparisons able to be made between Liberalism and its totalitarian cousins, there are actually some….significant…. differences.
The most obvious is the wholesale slaughter of its citizens.

Repressed, yes, marginalizes and discriminated against, but none of the annihilation the world has witnessed under the Bolsheviks and the Nazis.
This doesn't mean that the thought to do so in no present in American totalitarians….but there are conditions that, up to now, work to block same:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Jonah Goldberg



a. Hold on, you say…..the icon of Liberals/Democrats penned up American citizens in concentration camps…..
True. But I did say there are ' there are myriad comparisons.'



3. The most basic requirement for liberty is the right to private property ownership. The Founders knew that: they had studied John Locke. But the followers of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx had very different views to impose on the less astute in America.
You might take a look at this:
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

a. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

b. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

c. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

The Democrats are right there with Marx:
a. "Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

b. ....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University

c. President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”





So far, we've seen only the similarities and consubstantiations of Obamaunism and communism.

A big difference….
…coming up.

Yeah, totalitarianism doesn't mean what you think it means. As Obama wasn't a totalitarian. Nor has any president been, ever. Nor is taxing capital gains 'communism'.

And riddle me this: Are you against public education and child labor laws? Because they're part of the Communist Manifesto's 10 planks too. Either you have to reject both.....or acknowledge that you too 'just choose from what works'.

So Michelangelo would not be allowed to apprentice for the Medici's because that's against Federal Laws

There were no Federal Laws during the era of Michelangelo and Medici.

Not the point, current Federal laws would not allow Michelangelo to apprentice for the Medicis because it violates child labor laws

 

[Syriusly]

I don't understand PCs obsessive hatred of the Marx Brothers.....

Laughing....PC doesn't care about Marx, the Marx brothers or totalitarianism. As per her own argument, public education and child labor laws are both Marxist and totalitarian.

And she won't condemn either.

She is such a joke I find it more satisfying to mock her then even pretend to address her bizarre delusions.

 

[Skylar]

1. Obama's reign in America is, in one way at least, a dramatic reversal of one of Marx's basic tenets.

I'll get to that…..



2. But first, the context:

While there are myriad comparisons able to be made between Liberalism and its totalitarian cousins, there are actually some….significant…. differences.
The most obvious is the wholesale slaughter of its citizens.

Repressed, yes, marginalizes and discriminated against, but none of the annihilation the world has witnessed under the Bolsheviks and the Nazis.
This doesn't mean that the thought to do so in no present in American totalitarians….but there are conditions that, up to now, work to block same:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Jonah Goldberg



a. Hold on, you say…..the icon of Liberals/Democrats penned up American citizens in concentration camps…..
True. But I did say there are ' there are myriad comparisons.'



3. The most basic requirement for liberty is the right to private property ownership. The Founders knew that: they had studied John Locke. But the followers of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx had very different views to impose on the less astute in America.
You might take a look at this:
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

a. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

b. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

c. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

The Democrats are right there with Marx:
a. "Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

b. ....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University

c. President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”





So far, we've seen only the similarities and consubstantiations of Obamaunism and communism.

A big difference….
…coming up.

Yeah, totalitarianism doesn't mean what you think it means. As Obama wasn't a totalitarian. Nor has any president been, ever. Nor is taxing capital gains 'communism'.

And riddle me this: Are you against public education and child labor laws? Because they're part of the Communist Manifesto's 10 planks too. Either you have to reject both.....or acknowledge that you too 'just choose from what works'.

So Michelangelo would not be allowed to apprentice for the Medici's because that's against Federal Laws

There were no Federal Laws during the era of Michelangelo and Medici.

Not the point, current Federal laws would not allow Michelangelo to apprentice for the Medicis because it violates child labor laws

There were no child labor laws during the era of Michelangelo or the Medicis. There was no Communist Manifesto during the era of Michaelangelo or the Medicis.

Are you following *any* part of the conversation that you're jumping into?

 

[francoHFW]

Whatever FDR did to Japanese Americans was nothing compared to what the GOP would have done... Many thanks to the GOP for starting that Great Depression which gave rise to militarists and Chaos around the world... Much like the mess we're in now. Their greed and Corruption cost the US 8 trillion dollars this time, ditto Europe and the rest of the modern world, and absolutely wrecked the economy of Africa and the Middle East and Venezuela....

Blah blah blah....FDR locked up Japanese because he's a fucking scumbag

God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... They had to make everyone forget it was they who wrecked the Treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations and started the world depression that gave Hitler and Japanese militarists their start, not to mention their isolationism that allowed them to run wild until they finally attacked us. Great job as always, scum bags and dupes....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Whatever FDR did to Japanese Americans was nothing compared to what the GOP would have done... Many thanks to the GOP for starting that Great Depression which gave rise to militarists and Chaos around the world... Much like the mess we're in now. Their greed and Corruption cost the US 8 trillion dollars this time, ditto Europe and the rest of the modern world, and absolutely wrecked the economy of Africa and the Middle East and Venezuela....

Blah blah blah....FDR locked up Japanese because he's a fucking scumbag

God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... They had to make everyone forget it was they who Rex the Treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations and started the world depression that gave Hitler and Japanese militarists their start, not to mention their isolationism that allowed them to run wild until they finally attacked us. Great job as always, scum bags and dupes....

"God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... "

Certainly not you.

But everyone knows what Roosevelt did.


Did you know he despised Jews, Asians and blacks?

 

[Skylar]

Whatever FDR did to Japanese Americans was nothing compared to what the GOP would have done... Many thanks to the GOP for starting that Great Depression which gave rise to militarists and Chaos around the world... Much like the mess we're in now. Their greed and Corruption cost the US 8 trillion dollars this time, ditto Europe and the rest of the modern world, and absolutely wrecked the economy of Africa and the Middle East and Venezuela....

Blah blah blah....FDR locked up Japanese because he's a fucking scumbag

God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... They had to make everyone forget it was they who Rex the Treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations and started the world depression that gave Hitler and Japanese militarists their start, not to mention their isolationism that allowed them to run wild until they finally attacked us. Great job as always, scum bags and dupes....

"God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... "

Certainly not you.

But everyone knows what Roosevelt did.


Did you know he despised Jews, Asians and blacks?

Given that not one GOP senator or house member objected to the internment, there's zero indication that they had a problem with it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Whatever FDR did to Japanese Americans was nothing compared to what the GOP would have done... Many thanks to the GOP for starting that Great Depression which gave rise to militarists and Chaos around the world... Much like the mess we're in now. Their greed and Corruption cost the US 8 trillion dollars this time, ditto Europe and the rest of the modern world, and absolutely wrecked the economy of Africa and the Middle East and Venezuela....

Blah blah blah....FDR locked up Japanese because he's a fucking scumbag

God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... They had to make everyone forget it was they who Rex the Treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations and started the world depression that gave Hitler and Japanese militarists their start, not to mention their isolationism that allowed them to run wild until they finally attacked us. Great job as always, scum bags and dupes....

"God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... "

Certainly not you.

But everyone knows what Roosevelt did.


Did you know he despised Jews, Asians and blacks?

Given that not one GOP senator or house member objected to the internment, there's zero indication that they had a problem with it.

How about you.

Do you object to sending innocent US citizens to concentration camps?

 

[Skylar]

Whatever FDR did to Japanese Americans was nothing compared to what the GOP would have done... Many thanks to the GOP for starting that Great Depression which gave rise to militarists and Chaos around the world... Much like the mess we're in now. Their greed and Corruption cost the US 8 trillion dollars this time, ditto Europe and the rest of the modern world, and absolutely wrecked the economy of Africa and the Middle East and Venezuela....

Blah blah blah....FDR locked up Japanese because he's a fucking scumbag

God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... They had to make everyone forget it was they who Rex the Treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations and started the world depression that gave Hitler and Japanese militarists their start, not to mention their isolationism that allowed them to run wild until they finally attacked us. Great job as always, scum bags and dupes....

"God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... "

Certainly not you.

But everyone knows what Roosevelt did.


Did you know he despised Jews, Asians and blacks?

Given that not one GOP senator or house member objected to the internment, there's zero indication that they had a problem with it.

How about you.

Do you object to sending innocent US citizens to concentration camps?

I'll answer yours if you answer mine:

Do you object to public education and child labor laws?

Remember, I asked first.

 

[Rustic]

1. Obama's reign in America is, in one way at least, a dramatic reversal of one of Marx's basic tenets.

I'll get to that…..



2. But first, the context:

While there are myriad comparisons able to be made between Liberalism and its totalitarian cousins, there are actually some….significant…. differences.
The most obvious is the wholesale slaughter of its citizens.

Repressed, yes, marginalizes and discriminated against, but none of the annihilation the world has witnessed under the Bolsheviks and the Nazis.
This doesn't mean that the thought to do so in no present in American totalitarians….but there are conditions that, up to now, work to block same:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Jonah Goldberg



a. Hold on, you say…..the icon of Liberals/Democrats penned up American citizens in concentration camps…..
True. But I did say there are ' there are myriad comparisons.'



3. The most basic requirement for liberty is the right to private property ownership. The Founders knew that: they had studied John Locke. But the followers of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx had very different views to impose on the less astute in America.
You might take a look at this:
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

a. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

b. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

c. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

The Democrats are right there with Marx:
a. "Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

b. ....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University

c. President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”





So far, we've seen only the similarities and consubstantiations of Obamaunism and communism.

A big difference….
…coming up.

Yeah, totalitarianism doesn't mean what you think it means. As Obama wasn't a totalitarian. Nor has any president been, ever. Nor is taxing capital gains 'communism'.

And riddle me this: Are you against public education and child labor laws? Because they're part of the Communist Manifesto's 10 planks too. Either you have to reject both.....or acknowledge that you too 'just choose from what works'.

Capital gains is double taxation. Dip shit

 

[Skylar]

1. Obama's reign in America is, in one way at least, a dramatic reversal of one of Marx's basic tenets.

I'll get to that…..



2. But first, the context:

While there are myriad comparisons able to be made between Liberalism and its totalitarian cousins, there are actually some….significant…. differences.
The most obvious is the wholesale slaughter of its citizens.

Repressed, yes, marginalizes and discriminated against, but none of the annihilation the world has witnessed under the Bolsheviks and the Nazis.
This doesn't mean that the thought to do so in no present in American totalitarians….but there are conditions that, up to now, work to block same:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Jonah Goldberg



a. Hold on, you say…..the icon of Liberals/Democrats penned up American citizens in concentration camps…..
True. But I did say there are ' there are myriad comparisons.'



3. The most basic requirement for liberty is the right to private property ownership. The Founders knew that: they had studied John Locke. But the followers of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx had very different views to impose on the less astute in America.
You might take a look at this:
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

a. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

b. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

c. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

The Democrats are right there with Marx:
a. "Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

b. ....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University

c. President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”





So far, we've seen only the similarities and consubstantiations of Obamaunism and communism.

A big difference….
…coming up.

Yeah, totalitarianism doesn't mean what you think it means. As Obama wasn't a totalitarian. Nor has any president been, ever. Nor is taxing capital gains 'communism'.

And riddle me this: Are you against public education and child labor laws? Because they're part of the Communist Manifesto's 10 planks too. Either you have to reject both.....or acknowledge that you too 'just choose from what works'.

Capital gains is double taxation. Dip shit

Up, idiot? That's not communism or totalitarianism either.

Do try to keep up, shit-for-brains.

 

[Rustic]

1. Obama's reign in America is, in one way at least, a dramatic reversal of one of Marx's basic tenets.

I'll get to that…..



2. But first, the context:

While there are myriad comparisons able to be made between Liberalism and its totalitarian cousins, there are actually some….significant…. differences.
The most obvious is the wholesale slaughter of its citizens.

Repressed, yes, marginalizes and discriminated against, but none of the annihilation the world has witnessed under the Bolsheviks and the Nazis.
This doesn't mean that the thought to do so in no present in American totalitarians….but there are conditions that, up to now, work to block same:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Jonah Goldberg



a. Hold on, you say…..the icon of Liberals/Democrats penned up American citizens in concentration camps…..
True. But I did say there are ' there are myriad comparisons.'



3. The most basic requirement for liberty is the right to private property ownership. The Founders knew that: they had studied John Locke. But the followers of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx had very different views to impose on the less astute in America.
You might take a look at this:
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

a. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

b. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

c. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

The Democrats are right there with Marx:
a. "Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

b. ....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University

c. President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”





So far, we've seen only the similarities and consubstantiations of Obamaunism and communism.

A big difference….
…coming up.

Yeah, totalitarianism doesn't mean what you think it means. As Obama wasn't a totalitarian. Nor has any president been, ever. Nor is taxing capital gains 'communism'.

And riddle me this: Are you against public education and child labor laws? Because they're part of the Communist Manifesto's 10 planks too. Either you have to reject both.....or acknowledge that you too 'just choose from what works'.

Capital gains is double taxation. Dip shit

Up, idiot? That's not communism or totalitarianism either.

Do try to keep up, shit-for-brains.

Capital gains is a product of an immortal greedy government

 

[Skylar]

1. Obama's reign in America is, in one way at least, a dramatic reversal of one of Marx's basic tenets.

I'll get to that…..



2. But first, the context:

While there are myriad comparisons able to be made between Liberalism and its totalitarian cousins, there are actually some….significant…. differences.
The most obvious is the wholesale slaughter of its citizens.

Repressed, yes, marginalizes and discriminated against, but none of the annihilation the world has witnessed under the Bolsheviks and the Nazis.
This doesn't mean that the thought to do so in no present in American totalitarians….but there are conditions that, up to now, work to block same:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Jonah Goldberg



a. Hold on, you say…..the icon of Liberals/Democrats penned up American citizens in concentration camps…..
True. But I did say there are ' there are myriad comparisons.'



3. The most basic requirement for liberty is the right to private property ownership. The Founders knew that: they had studied John Locke. But the followers of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx had very different views to impose on the less astute in America.
You might take a look at this:
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

a. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

b. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

c. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

The Democrats are right there with Marx:
a. "Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

b. ....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University

c. President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”





So far, we've seen only the similarities and consubstantiations of Obamaunism and communism.

A big difference….
…coming up.

Yeah, totalitarianism doesn't mean what you think it means. As Obama wasn't a totalitarian. Nor has any president been, ever. Nor is taxing capital gains 'communism'.

And riddle me this: Are you against public education and child labor laws? Because they're part of the Communist Manifesto's 10 planks too. Either you have to reject both.....or acknowledge that you too 'just choose from what works'.

Capital gains is double taxation. Dip shit

Up, idiot? That's not communism or totalitarianism either.

Do try to keep up, shit-for-brains.

Capital gains is a product of an immortal greedy government

Still neither communism nor totalitarianism.

You're just not following the conversation at all, are you shit-for-brains?

 

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Blah blah blah....FDR locked up Japanese because he's a fucking scumbag

God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... They had to make everyone forget it was they who Rex the Treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations and started the world depression that gave Hitler and Japanese militarists their start, not to mention their isolationism that allowed them to run wild until they finally attacked us. Great job as always, scum bags and dupes....

"God knows with the GOP would have done too the Japanese Americans... "

Certainly not you.

But everyone knows what Roosevelt did.


Did you know he despised Jews, Asians and blacks?

Given that not one GOP senator or house member objected to the internment, there's zero indication that they had a problem with it.

How about you.

Do you object to sending innocent US citizens to concentration camps?

I'll answer yours if you answer mine:

Do you object to public education and child labor laws?

Remember, I asked first.

Not necessary for you to answer again...after all I got you on record yesterday decrying the right to free speech and equal treatment for those with alternative views to yours.

So...I recognize you as unAmerican, and with strong fascistic tendencies.

Therefore, your position on concentration camps is already clear.


Be gone.