Nuclear Options Regarding Ukraine (Poll)

[JimH52]

What he says. ^^^

You missed the last election? trump lost...even if he still says he won. You don't need to worry. There is a man in the WH that has revived the countries of NATO, after trump tried to destroy them. Biden is someone who does not suddenly make stupid, insane statements like TFG. You are still hurting cause because trump's stupidity lost him re-election. You are a MAGA cult member, so you will never think anyone should be in the White House except TFG.

 

[eagle1462010]

You see it this way. And I admit there is some validity to your argument. But let’s imagine it as Military Theoreticians will.

Imagine it this way. You are in a fist fight. You are going to get hit. You are going to take some hits. The person who will win is the one who takes the least damage.

You see it as if you take one hit. One nuke. You have lost. They see it as calculable casualties. And as long as we suffer fewer than they do. It is possible to win.

This is where the theories on tactical versus strategic come into play. You can drop a small Nuke on a base. You may not destroy the entire base. But you deny the resources there because of radiation.

The same would happen at any road or rail hub. You deny the location to the enemy.

The psychological effect can’t be ignored either. The idea that an enemy who is nukes would be demoralized.

None of that matters........we see our cities going up in Mushroom clouds we would be so pissed that we would do the same to them.

This is NOT WINNABLE.

 

[eagle1462010]

You missed the last election? trump lost...even if he still says he won. You don't need to worry. There is a man in the WH that has revived the countries of NATO, after trump tried to destroy them. Biden is someone who does not suddenly make stupid, insane statements like TFG. You are still hurting cause because trump's stupidity lost him re-election. You are a MAGA cult member, so you will never think anyone should be in the White House except TFG.

Same guy who Putin didn't invade under .........and your side was Hyping how Trump would cause WWIII..........lmao

You are a Clown. And like Obama your foreign policy is a disaster.

 

[eagle1462010]

Pootin is an evil man, whos i probably fighting a life ending disease. But he is not crazy enough, yet, to launch a nuclear attack on Ukraine or anyone. Because he will be signing a death warrant for himself and millions of Russians. There better be someone in the Kremlin that will talk this guy down.

While I agree on Putin............we have a guy with the finger on the button that shakes hands with imaginary people after trying to speak.

There is reason for testing Presidents...................time for Joe to go...........which sucks because we get the Ho

 

[JimH52]

Same guy who Putin didn't invade under .........and your side was Hyping how Trump would cause WWIII..........lmao

You are a Clown. And like Obama your foreign policy is a disaster.

If trump were in the WH, Pootin would have won the war already, because he would have refused to give aid to Ukraine and he would have welcomed his buddy, Pootin into Kyiv. Everyone knows that trump is Pootin's lapdog.

 

[eagle1462010]

If trump were in the WH, Pootin would have won the war already, because he would have refused to give aid to Ukraine and he would have welcomed his buddy, Pootin into Kyiv. Everyone knows that trump is Pootin's lapdog.

Only TDS clowns know this..............If a frog had wings argument from you and nothing more.

 

[JimH52]

Only TDS clowns know this..............If a frog had wings argument from you and nothing more.

Time to crawl out of the fetal position.

 

[eagle1462010]

Time to crawl out of the fetal position.

LOL

Your bot needs reprogramming........lmao

 

[Ringo]

Today, August 29 marks the International Day of Action against Nuclear Tests, which was approved by a resolution of the UN General Assembly on December 2, 2009.

Permanent members of the UN Security Council, including Russia, the United States, France, Great Britain and China, as well as India, Israel, the DPRK and Pakistan, possess nuclear weapons. The mechanism for stopping nuclear weapons tests is enshrined in the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT). On September 10, 1996, 185 countries signed it, but only 170 ratified it. The United States, China and Israel were among those who refused to sign.
In response to threats, Russia is also increasing its Army by 137 thousand people, bringing the full-time strength of the Armed Forces to 2,039,758 units, of which 1,150,628 military personnel.

The risk of unleashing a big war is growing. And it can be nuclear. The West has previously used nuclear weapons, and the presence of sanity among its current leaders is less and less.

Russia has options to prevent a nuclear war
While diplomacy is fighting for peace and gaining time, Russia is advancing on the economic front.

The pampered Western philistine is not able to endure hardships and economic difficulties. The population of Western countries in conditions of cold and hunger may well be ripe to overthrow their governments — the proteges of the globalist establishment. And healthy national forces interested in the prosperity of their peoples with economic partnership with Russia can enter the political arena.

The threat of using nuclear weapons is high
It is already clear to almost every sober-minded person that the provocations of the Ukrainian army firing at the Zaporozhye NPP are aimed at blaming Russia for an ecological nuclear disaster. To justify in the eyes of its population and the world community the entry of NATO into an open war with Russia with the possible use of nuclear weapons.

First, representatives of the US and UK parliaments announced the possibility of applying Article 5 of the NATO Charter in the event of a radiation disaster caused by shelling, and on August 21, they were also joined by the Deputy Minister of Defense of Poland. Article 5 of the NATO Charter regards an attack on one member of the organization as an attack on the entire organization.

Adam Kinzinger, a member of the US House of Representatives from Illinois, said about a possible leak from the nuclear reactor of the Zaporozhye NPP:

Any leak will kill people in NATO countries, this is the automatic inclusion of Article 5

Statements about NATO's reaction to a possible nuclear incident do not just appear in the information field. But if they have appeared, you can expect anything from ardent Russophobes.

The exposure of the Russian Defense Ministry of the West's plans for a military provocation at Zaporizhia has so far helped prevent a nuclear catastrophe.

But the West will not back down so easily. At the NATO summit in Madrid, a new strategic concept was adopted, in which Russia was officially named the greatest threat to the security of the North Atlantic Alliance. It was decided to bring the NATO rapid reaction force from 40,000 to 300,000 people. The number of American troops in Europe will increase. NATO is planning to expand, Finland and Sweden have already been invited to join the alliance.

 

[JGalt]

Today, August 29 marks the International Day of Action against Nuclear Tests, which was approved by a resolution of the UN General Assembly on December 2, 2009.

Permanent members of the UN Security Council, including Russia, the United States, France, Great Britain and China, as well as India, Israel, the DPRK and Pakistan, possess nuclear weapons. The mechanism for stopping nuclear weapons tests is enshrined in the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT). On September 10, 1996, 185 countries signed it, but only 170 ratified it. The United States, China and Israel were among those who refused to sign.
In response to threats, Russia is also increasing its Army by 137 thousand people, bringing the full-time strength of the Armed Forces to 2,039,758 units, of which 1,150,628 military personnel.

The risk of unleashing a big war is growing. And it can be nuclear. The West has previously used nuclear weapons, and the presence of sanity among its current leaders is less and less.

Russia has options to prevent a nuclear war
While diplomacy is fighting for peace and gaining time, Russia is advancing on the economic front.

The pampered Western philistine is not able to endure hardships and economic difficulties. The population of Western countries in conditions of cold and hunger may well be ripe to overthrow their governments — the proteges of the globalist establishment. And healthy national forces interested in the prosperity of their peoples with economic partnership with Russia can enter the political arena.

The threat of using nuclear weapons is high
It is already clear to almost every sober-minded person that the provocations of the Ukrainian army firing at the Zaporozhye NPP are aimed at blaming Russia for an ecological nuclear disaster. To justify in the eyes of its population and the world community the entry of NATO into an open war with Russia with the possible use of nuclear weapons.

First, representatives of the US and UK parliaments announced the possibility of applying Article 5 of the NATO Charter in the event of a radiation disaster caused by shelling, and on August 21, they were also joined by the Deputy Minister of Defense of Poland. Article 5 of the NATO Charter regards an attack on one member of the organization as an attack on the entire organization.

Adam Kinzinger, a member of the US House of Representatives from Illinois, said about a possible leak from the nuclear reactor of the Zaporozhye NPP:

Any leak will kill people in NATO countries, this is the automatic inclusion of Article 5

Statements about NATO's reaction to a possible nuclear incident do not just appear in the information field. But if they have appeared, you can expect anything from ardent Russophobes.

The exposure of the Russian Defense Ministry of the West's plans for a military provocation at Zaporizhia has so far helped prevent a nuclear catastrophe.

But the West will not back down so easily. At the NATO summit in Madrid, a new strategic concept was adopted, in which Russia was officially named the greatest threat to the security of the North Atlantic Alliance. It was decided to bring the NATO rapid reaction force from 40,000 to 300,000 people. The number of American troops in Europe will increase. NATO is planning to expand, Finland and Sweden have already been invited to join the alliance.

"Pampered Western philistine..."

 

[SavannahMann]

Today, August 29 marks the International Day of Action against Nuclear Tests, which was approved by a resolution of the UN General Assembly on December 2, 2009.

Permanent members of the UN Security Council, including Russia, the United States, France, Great Britain and China, as well as India, Israel, the DPRK and Pakistan, possess nuclear weapons. The mechanism for stopping nuclear weapons tests is enshrined in the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT). On September 10, 1996, 185 countries signed it, but only 170 ratified it. The United States, China and Israel were among those who refused to sign.
In response to threats, Russia is also increasing its Army by 137 thousand people, bringing the full-time strength of the Armed Forces to 2,039,758 units, of which 1,150,628 military personnel.

The risk of unleashing a big war is growing. And it can be nuclear. The West has previously used nuclear weapons, and the presence of sanity among its current leaders is less and less.

Russia has options to prevent a nuclear war
While diplomacy is fighting for peace and gaining time, Russia is advancing on the economic front.

The pampered Western philistine is not able to endure hardships and economic difficulties. The population of Western countries in conditions of cold and hunger may well be ripe to overthrow their governments — the proteges of the globalist establishment. And healthy national forces interested in the prosperity of their peoples with economic partnership with Russia can enter the political arena.

The threat of using nuclear weapons is high
It is already clear to almost every sober-minded person that the provocations of the Ukrainian army firing at the Zaporozhye NPP are aimed at blaming Russia for an ecological nuclear disaster. To justify in the eyes of its population and the world community the entry of NATO into an open war with Russia with the possible use of nuclear weapons.

First, representatives of the US and UK parliaments announced the possibility of applying Article 5 of the NATO Charter in the event of a radiation disaster caused by shelling, and on August 21, they were also joined by the Deputy Minister of Defense of Poland. Article 5 of the NATO Charter regards an attack on one member of the organization as an attack on the entire organization.

Adam Kinzinger, a member of the US House of Representatives from Illinois, said about a possible leak from the nuclear reactor of the Zaporozhye NPP:

Any leak will kill people in NATO countries, this is the automatic inclusion of Article 5

Statements about NATO's reaction to a possible nuclear incident do not just appear in the information field. But if they have appeared, you can expect anything from ardent Russophobes.

The exposure of the Russian Defense Ministry of the West's plans for a military provocation at Zaporizhia has so far helped prevent a nuclear catastrophe.

But the West will not back down so easily. At the NATO summit in Madrid, a new strategic concept was adopted, in which Russia was officially named the greatest threat to the security of the North Atlantic Alliance. It was decided to bring the NATO rapid reaction force from 40,000 to 300,000 people. The number of American troops in Europe will increase. NATO is planning to expand, Finland and Sweden have already been invited to join the alliance.

The propaganda runs strong with this one.

The easy ones first. Sweden and Finland asked to join NATO after Russia launched an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine after I might add swearing for months that they had no such intentions. They were swearing they wouldn’t invade up until they actually invaded. That is why Finland and Sweden asked to join NATO.

Regarding Nukes. Russia has been threatening to use Nukes every week or so. Sometimes multiple times during the week. It isn’t NATO pushing the world to the brink of Nuclear War. It is the statements and actions of Russia.

I could continue. But you get the idea.

 

[JimH52]

The propaganda runs strong with this one.

The easy ones first. Sweden and Finland asked to join NATO after Russia launched an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine after I might add swearing for months that they had no such intentions. They were swearing they wouldn’t invade up until they actually invaded. That is why Finland and Sweden asked to join NATO.

Regarding Nukes. Russia has been threatening to use Nukes every week or so. Sometimes multiple times during the week. It isn’t NATO pushing the world to the brink of Nuclear War. It is the statements and actions of Russia.

I could continue. But you get the idea.

The MAGA repub party has been defending Poootin for months.

 

[miketx]

The MAGA repub party has been defending Poootin for months.

You lie.

 

[Ringo]

The propaganda runs strong with this one.
The easy ones first. Sweden and Finland asked to join NATO after Russia launched an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine

This is not just propaganda, this is Goebbels shit for the stupid population. But the yellow-blue ones eat.

 

[SavannahMann]

This is not just propaganda, this is Goebbels shit for the stupid population. But the yellow-blue ones eat.

Ok. Let’s start at the beginning. Did Russia deny that they were going to invade Ukraine? Did Russia then invade Ukraine?

 

[Ringo]

Ok. Let’s start at the beginning. Did Russia deny that they were going to invade Ukraine? Did Russia then invade Ukraine?

Ukrainian bandits regularly fire at the nuclear power plant, which is located on the territory of Ukraine. What else can we talk about?! What should we discuss? Russia is dealing with the nazis and the United States and Europe are supporting nazi Ukraine. Shame!

 

[SavannahMann]

Ukrainian bandits regularly fire at the nuclear power plant, which is located on the territory of Ukraine. What else can we talk about?! What should we discuss? Russia is dealing with the nazis and the United States and Europe are supporting nazi Ukraine. Shame!

First. Let’s start with the oldest lie. The Nazi claim. Yes. There were some Nazi’s. But they didn’t make up a majority of the population. They didn’t even make up a significant proportion of the minority. Mostly it was the Russian Supported effort to seize the Donbas regions from Ukraine that gave them the ability to become slightly less irrelevant. Once again. If Russia had stayed out of Ukraine the problem wouldn’t have started.

Second. Since you have avoided the first questions. I assume either you are unwilling to lie. Which is commendable. Or you are following a script and there isn’t anything in it to deal with the truth that Russia lied to the world about their intentions and invaded without just cause.

Next. The fighting around the Nuclear Plant. Russia has created a doomsday scenario right out of Doctor Strangelove. If you attack us you trigger the disaster.

But we are talking about Ukrainian Territory. A fact you stated quite clearly. So the defenders of their National lands are the bad guys for defending their National lands. The solution is obvious to anyone with half a brain. The invaders can and should leave.

The solution remains the same. The only fair and rational solution. Russia can return to their borders. Return home and get the fuck out of someone else’s nation. Their invasion is never going to be accepted. The economic disaster for Russia will continue, ending only when Russia finally gives up on their imperialist agenda.

 

[Ringo]

First. Let’s start with the oldest lie. The Nazi claim. Yes. There were some Nazi’s. But they didn’t make up a majority of the population. They didn’t even make up a significant proportion of the minority

The Nazis don't need to be the majority in order to own the country. And it is enough to have the support of the state. And they had and have it in Ukraine. Just as Hitler's assault detachments carried out reprisals on the streets of Germany, with the connivance of the state, so the nationalist organizations of Ukraine dealt with the objectionable on the streets and institutions of Ukraine, including the courts and even the office of the president. Moreover, reprisals are unpunished, including murders. Those who are dissatisfied with this remain either silent or emigrate. Otherwise, intimidation by violence or violence itself, ending with the involvement of the state apparatus. The mass media of such a state provide an ideological justification for such actions and spread the Nazi ideology.
And the рharisee and hypocrites of the West declared this the heyday of democracy and freedom. Scum.

 

[SavannahMann]

The Nazis don't need to be the majority in order to own the country. And it is enough to have the support of the state. And they had and have it in Ukraine. Just as Hitler's assault detachments carried out reprisals on the streets of Germany, with the connivance of the state, so the nationalist organizations of Ukraine dealt with the objectionable on the streets and institutions of Ukraine, including the courts and even the office of the president. Moreover, reprisals are unpunished, including murders. Those who are dissatisfied with this remain either silent or emigrate. Otherwise, intimidation by violence or violence itself, ending with the involvement of the state apparatus. The mass media of such a state provide an ideological justification for such actions and spread the Nazi ideology.
And the рharisee and hypocrites of the West declared this the heyday of democracy and freedom. Scum.

You are so full of shit you could fertilize half the farms in Eastern Europe.

We have about the same percentage of Nazi’s here in the US. By your argument, Russia would be totally Justified to invade us. In fact, it would be a moral imperative to do so right?

That was the rationalization of why Russia invaded. But it isn’t the reason, and you know it. Hell you’ve said so before. It was all about the alliance of Ukraine remember?

Ukraine wanted closer ties to Western Europe. They just had an election, and rejected the Pro Russia candidate in favor of the Pro European Candidate. Well that was intolerable. Like all Totalitarians, Putin couldn’t tolerate someone that broke away. Russia has a long history of this by the way. See Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and of course East Germany.

You claimed before that Ukraine was going to join NATO, despite the fact, deniable only to Putinista Propagandists, that NATO clearly said no.

Nazi’s is an excuse. A lame one as it ignores the fact that the people of Ukraine elected a Jew to be in charge. A Jew who hasn’t surrendered as expected.

We know who is the totalitarian. We know because we see enough of it.

Come Comrade. Abandon the propaganda and lies and embrace the truth.

 

[Ringo]

We have about the same percentage of Nazi’s here in the US.

There are also places in the USA where you can legally have sex with animals. There is a lot of shit in the USA and fans of Ukrainian Nazis belong to this category of bastards of humanity.

Nazi’s is an excuse. A lame one as it ignores the fact that the people of Ukraine elected a Jew to be in charge. A Jew who hasn’t surrendered as expected.

The Jew was elected because people hated Poroshenko, leading the war against Donbass and the Jew promised to end it. The Jew cheated. "A useful Jew," as the German Nazis called such scoundrels.
Instead of Jews, the ukrainian nazis hate russians. Long before the start of the military operation. They need to hate someone.
But don't worry, they hate Jews too and don't hide it. When the Olympic Games began in Berlin in 1936, the Nazis suspended anti-Semitic propaganda for a while. Banderjvists will definitely return to it, do not doubt.