New York Times finally uses "lie" on a news headline

[Camp]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

They all pay a price in political capital and legacy. Why shouldn't trump? His insistence that he be treated differently or special is delusional, one of his several mental illness issues.

 

[dblack]

I'm not entirely convinced that it's altogether fair or accurate to characterize what Trump does as "lying".

A lie is a purposeful falsehood; saying something that you know isn't true.

A young boy can say things like "I'm the strongest kid in the world!" or "I'm the smartest kid in the world!", and do with sincerity because he simply doesn't comprehend the world around him. He essentially talks himself, on the spot, into believing simplistic and naive hyperbole.

I think it's possible, literally, that this is what we have here.
.

I don't agree. It's not just ignorance, not naive hyperbole. It's a shrewd attempt to neuter the ability of a free press to criticize them. You'll notice that it's Trumps most preposterous claims that he chooses to amplify. By goading critics into fixating on such trivia, he undermine's their credibility. It's pretty easy to dismiss the press when they are freaking out about petty boasts of crowd size or plagiarism in perfunctory speeches. Which makers it easier to dismiss future critiques from the same sources.

This is evil shit. It's not harmless.

You're giving him a lot of credit, and sure, you may be right.

The thing is, what you propose would take more calculation and strategic depth than I believe he possesses. I think whatever success he had as a developer was achieved by simply mauling people through the sheer force and volume of his will, not strategic depth.

I dunno.
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I hear you. It's hard to imagine he's put much thought into it (or into anything, really). It's possible it's just instinctual, or a behavior he's picked from a lifetime as a salesman. It's essentially "baffle them with bullshit" applied to politics.

 

[gipper]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

They all pay a price in political capital and legacy. Why shouldn't trump? His insistence that he be treated differently or special is delusional, one of his several mental illness issues.

So then, you must believe Obama mentally ill too. Right?

 

[owebo]

The NYT is fake news....

Embarrassing owebo is an easy task: Pants on Fire for Trump claim that millions voted illegally

Politifact is fake news....

Ted Frazier,

This owebo answer for the next four years... Can you please show Politifact publishing and persisting to publish false facts in specifics...

Tump did not win the popular vote and more than Hillary won the EC vote... But Trump keeps on saying he did...

What did Hillary win?

 

[gipper]

I'm not entirely convinced that it's altogether fair or accurate to characterize what Trump does as "lying".

A lie is a purposeful falsehood; saying something that you know isn't true.

A young boy can say things like "I'm the strongest kid in the world!" or "I'm the smartest kid in the world!", and do with sincerity because he simply doesn't comprehend the world around him. He essentially talks himself, on the spot, into believing simplistic and naive hyperbole.

I think it's possible, literally, that this is what we have here.
.

I don't agree. It's not just ignorance, not naive hyperbole. It's a shrewd attempt to neuter the ability of a free press to criticize them. You'll notice that it's Trumps most preposterous claims that he chooses to amplify. By goading critics into fixating on such trivia, he undermine's their credibility. It's pretty easy to dismiss the press when they are freaking out about petty boasts of crowd size or plagiarism in perfunctory speeches. Which makers it easier to dismiss future critiques from the same sources.

This is evil shit. It's not harmless.

You're giving him a lot of credit, and sure, you may be right.

The thing is, what you propose would take more calculation and strategic depth than I believe he possesses. I think whatever success he had as a developer was achieved by simply mauling people through the sheer force and volume of his will, not strategic depth.

I dunno.
.

I hear you. It's hard to imagine he's put much thought into it (or into anything, really). It's possible it's just instinctual, or a behavior he's picked from a lifetime as a salesman. It's essentially "baffle them with bullshit" applied to politics.

Yeah...Trump is a dumbass but Big Ears is really really intelligent.

Time for a new playbook. This one is worn out.

 

[dblack]

Yeah...Trump is a dumbass but Big Ears is really really intelligent.

Time for a new playbook. This one is worn out.

What? I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

 

[Camp]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

They all pay a price in political capital and legacy. Why shouldn't trump? His insistence that he be treated differently or special is delusional, one of his several mental illness issues.

So then, you must believe Obama mentally ill too. Right?

No, Trump is pathological and delusional. He tells "beneficial lies", that is, lies made and designed to benefit an individual's narrative, which is relatively common, but he also tells "impulse lies", lies made from simple insecurity and basically trivial reasons of generally unimportant matters.

 

[gipper]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

They all pay a price in political capital and legacy. Why shouldn't trump? His insistence that he be treated differently or special is delusional, one of his several mental illness issues.

So then, you must believe Obama mentally ill too. Right?

No, Trump is pathological and delusional. He tells "beneficial lies", that is, lies made and designed to benefit an individual's narrative, which is relatively common, but he also tells "impulse lies", lies made from simple insecurity and basically trivial reasons of generally unimportant matters.

You mean just like Obama and Hillary

 

[owebo]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

They all pay a price in political capital and legacy. Why shouldn't trump? His insistence that he be treated differently or special is delusional, one of his several mental illness issues.

So then, you must believe Obama mentally ill too. Right?

No, Trump is pathological and delusional. He tells "beneficial lies", that is, lies made and designed to benefit an individual's narrative, which is relatively common, but he also tells "impulse lies", lies made from simple insecurity and basically trivial reasons of generally unimportant matters.

put down your fake news, it's rotted your brain...l

 

[Camp]

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

They all pay a price in political capital and legacy. Why shouldn't trump? His insistence that he be treated differently or special is delusional, one of his several mental illness issues.

So then, you must believe Obama mentally ill too. Right?

No, Trump is pathological and delusional. He tells "beneficial lies", that is, lies made and designed to benefit an individual's narrative, which is relatively common, but he also tells "impulse lies", lies made from simple insecurity and basically trivial reasons of generally unimportant matters.

You mean just like Obama and Hillary

No, both would fall under the category of a beneficial liar if you are arguing the side that either of them are liars. The lies they are accused of telling would have been made to benefit their narratives and presented to accomplish a specific intent or goal.

 

[gipper]

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

They all pay a price in political capital and legacy. Why shouldn't trump? His insistence that he be treated differently or special is delusional, one of his several mental illness issues.

So then, you must believe Obama mentally ill too. Right?

No, Trump is pathological and delusional. He tells "beneficial lies", that is, lies made and designed to benefit an individual's narrative, which is relatively common, but he also tells "impulse lies", lies made from simple insecurity and basically trivial reasons of generally unimportant matters.

You mean just like Obama and Hillary

No, both would fall under the category of a beneficial liar if you are arguing the side that either of them are liars. The lies they are accused of telling would have been made to benefit their narratives and presented to accomplish a specific intent or goal.

Yeah like being under sniper fire and leaving the WH broke.

 

[AntonToo]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

That is a completely false equivalency.

NOBODY lies like Trump. Not Reagan, not Clinton, not Bush, not Obama.

It's frequent, it is shameless, it is ridiculous.

All Pants on Fire! statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact

 

[dblack]

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

They all pay a price in political capital and legacy. Why shouldn't trump? His insistence that he be treated differently or special is delusional, one of his several mental illness issues.

So then, you must believe Obama mentally ill too. Right?

No, Trump is pathological and delusional. He tells "beneficial lies", that is, lies made and designed to benefit an individual's narrative, which is relatively common, but he also tells "impulse lies", lies made from simple insecurity and basically trivial reasons of generally unimportant matters.

put down your fake news, it's rotted your brain...l

 

[gipper]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

That is a completely false equivalency.

NOBODY lies like Trump. Not Reagan, not Clinton, not Bush, not Obama.

It's frequent, it is shameless, it is ridiculous.

All Pants on Fire! statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact

Dupe Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NoNukes]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

No he did not. However, it appears that Trump does. Real news.

 

[owebo]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

That is a completely false equivalency.

NOBODY lies like Trump. Not Reagan, not Clinton, not Bush, not Obama.

It's frequent, it is shameless, it is ridiculous.

All Pants on Fire! statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact

PolitiFact is fake news...you know, alt-facts....in other words, lies....

 

[gipper]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

No he did not. However, it appears that Trump does. Real news.

Yes he did.

 

[NoNukes]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

No he did not. However, it appears that Trump does. Real news.

Yes he did.

Now you are lying. But Cult Trump is built on lies.

 

[AntonToo]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

Ronald Reagan never told no lies. He just forgot a bunch of stuff, like negotiating with terrorist and funding other terrorist and waging illegal wars. Easy stuff to forget.

No. He lied too. They ALL lie.

That is a completely false equivalency.

NOBODY lies like Trump. Not Reagan, not Clinton, not Bush, not Obama.

It's frequent, it is shameless, it is ridiculous.

All Pants on Fire! statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact

Dupe Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lemming retard.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Obama lied every day and NY Slimes said nothing. Now...they report that Trump lies. Hypocrisy!!!

This is what Trump has done just in the last few days

A Dog and pony show in which he sat at a Lobby desk of a Secretary to take a photograph pretending he was writing his own Inauguration Speech while sitting in his Office. Immediately folks noticed he was using a capped Sharpie pen to write the speech. Later the truth came that it was written by Breitbart editor...

• Remember That
  Picture of Trump
  Writing His Own
  Inaugural Address? The White House Just Admitted It Was a Lie
• 
  Miller and Bannon
  wrote Trump
  inaugural address:
  report
• 'Alternative Facts':
  The Needless Lies
  of the Trump
  Administration
• 
  Orange Julius goes in front of Law makers and disrespected them and the Truth by an unhinged declaration that five million fraudulent votes had been cast in the election without a shred of evidence much less a shred of decency
• Trump repeats debunked voter fraud claim at meeting with Hill leaders .

He debunks any notion that he is going to show his Taxes....disrespecting We The People
Trump Definitively Forsakes His Promise to Release His Tax Returns

We will be fortunate if we can put a Strait Jacket on this crazy person BEFORE he launches Nukes