New York Times finally uses "lie" on a news headline

[owebo]

Can we wonder which one of these brilliant trump supporters can name an authoritarian regime, government, power, etc. that came to power and did not attack the press? Surely these intellectual giants can show us the folks who took away freedoms and even became dictatorial entities without first neutralizing the media.

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[owebo]

And predictably, the guy at the center of this "lie" moment is Agent Orange:

Trump Repeats Lie About Popular Vote in Meeting With Lawmakers

Nobody reads the Times anymore, it's Carlos Slim's vanity project

I don't even think our liberal friends have the slightest clue it's fake news....

 

[dblack]

Trump... finishing what Osama bin Laden started.

 

[imawhosure]

Can we wonder which one of these brilliant trump supporters can name an authoritarian regime, government, power, etc. that came to power and did not attack the press? Surely these intellectual giants can show us the folks who took away freedoms and even became dictatorial entities without first neutralizing the media.

Oh, you mean like when Obama attacked Fox News, hehehehehehehehehehe!

And hey, can you tell us when was there ever a time.........legally...............that the press got in bed with a political party, hehehehehehe!

Your easy Camp, and good for you. Must not be one of those astro turfers full of left wing narratives, cause if you are, you are sucking it out-)

 

[Camp]

Can we wonder which one of these brilliant trump supporters can name an authoritarian regime, government, power, etc. that came to power and did not attack the press? Surely these intellectual giants can show us the folks who took away freedoms and even became dictatorial entities without first neutralizing the media.

Oh, you mean like when Obama attacked Fox News, hehehehehehehehehehe!

And hey, can you tell us when was there ever a time.........legally...............that the press got in bed with a political party, hehehehehehe!

Your easy Camp, and good for you. Must not be one of those astro turfers full of left wing narratives, cause if you are, you are sucking it out-)

Sounds like you are unable to answer the question. Actually, it sounds like you guys are not even bright enough to comprehend the question.

 

[imawhosure]

Can we wonder which one of these brilliant trump supporters can name an authoritarian regime, government, power, etc. that came to power and did not attack the press? Surely these intellectual giants can show us the folks who took away freedoms and even became dictatorial entities without first neutralizing the media.

Oh, you mean like when Obama attacked Fox News, hehehehehehehehehehe!

And hey, can you tell us when was there ever a time.........legally...............that the press got in bed with a political party, hehehehehehe!

Your easy Camp, and good for you. Must not be one of those astro turfers full of left wing narratives, cause if you are, you are sucking it out-)

Sounds like you are unable to answer the question. Actually, it sounds like you guys are not even bright enough to comprehend the question.

I answered your question, Obama! Or, are you suggesting against your leftist friends, that the Obama administration, was actually an AUTHORITARIAN regime as some claim? Your choice, choose-) Either I answered your question, OR the Obama regime was authoritarian. Pick and answer, so that we know what to discuss going forward-)

 

[owebo]

Can we wonder which one of these brilliant trump supporters can name an authoritarian regime, government, power, etc. that came to power and did not attack the press? Surely these intellectual giants can show us the folks who took away freedoms and even became dictatorial entities without first neutralizing the media.

Oh, you mean like when Obama attacked Fox News, hehehehehehehehehehe!

And hey, can you tell us when was there ever a time.........legally...............that the press got in bed with a political party, hehehehehehe!

Your easy Camp, and good for you. Must not be one of those astro turfers full of left wing narratives, cause if you are, you are sucking it out-)

Sounds like you are unable to answer the question. Actually, it sounds like you guys are not even bright enough to comprehend the question.

I answered your question, Obama! Or, are you suggesting against your leftist friends, that the Obama administration, was actually an AUTHORITARIAN regime as some claim? Your choice, choose-) Either I answered your question, OR the Obama regime was authoritarian. Pick and answer, so that we know what to discuss going forward-)

 

[imawhosure]

Can we wonder which one of these brilliant trump supporters can name an authoritarian regime, government, power, etc. that came to power and did not attack the press? Surely these intellectual giants can show us the folks who took away freedoms and even became dictatorial entities without first neutralizing the media.

Oh, you mean like when Obama attacked Fox News, hehehehehehehehehehe!

And hey, can you tell us when was there ever a time.........legally...............that the press got in bed with a political party, hehehehehehe!

Your easy Camp, and good for you. Must not be one of those astro turfers full of left wing narratives, cause if you are, you are sucking it out-)

Sounds like you are unable to answer the question. Actually, it sounds like you guys are not even bright enough to comprehend the question.

And so, the question to Camp goes like this-------->

1. Is he stating that ONLY authoritarian regimes attack the press, meaning that Obama therefore was AUTHORITARIAN!

or

2. Is he rather suggesting that since Trump attacked the press his administration must be authoritarian, there fore so was Obama's?

or

3. Is he suggesting that Trump is an authoritarian, and ignore Obama's attacking of the press because he, the brilliant leftist, says so!

 

[Camp]

Can we wonder which one of these brilliant trump supporters can name an authoritarian regime, government, power, etc. that came to power and did not attack the press? Surely these intellectual giants can show us the folks who took away freedoms and even became dictatorial entities without first neutralizing the media.

Oh, you mean like when Obama attacked Fox News, hehehehehehehehehehe!

And hey, can you tell us when was there ever a time.........legally...............that the press got in bed with a political party, hehehehehehe!

Your easy Camp, and good for you. Must not be one of those astro turfers full of left wing narratives, cause if you are, you are sucking it out-)

Sounds like you are unable to answer the question. Actually, it sounds like you guys are not even bright enough to comprehend the question.

And so, the question to Camp goes like this-------->

1. Is he stating that ONLY authoritarian regimes attack the press, meaning that Obama therefore was AUTHORITARIAN!

or

2. Is he rather suggesting that since Trump attacked the press his administration must be authoritarian, there fore so was Obama's?

or

3. Is he suggesting that Trump is an authoritarian, and ignore Obama's attacking of the press because he, the brilliant leftist, says so!

Obama did not have an authoritarian government, you dunce. If he did he would not have had to deal with a republican congress and would have been able to name a Justice to the Supreme Court. Your argument relies on making up your own elementary and silly definition of what an authoritarian government is. Either that or you just don't know what an authoritarian government is.

By the way, dope, attacking or criticizing the press is not the same as neutralizing it or controlling it.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Lies are things that people utter. It's never acceptable, but we know people will lie. Insofar as we know that people will lie, the liars', politicians in particular, must be evaluated not on the mere fact that they have lied, but rather on the nature of the lies they tell and the frequency with with they lie.

• Did they have an alternative to lying?
• Did the liar offer the untruth or were they asked a question and in response lied to answer it?
• Whom does the lie benefit -- the liar or others?
  
• Is it a lie of omission?
• Are their lies of a certain class or are they boundless in scope?
• Are they a prevaricator, palterer, equivocator, taradiddler, or some other type of liar?

The accurate answers to those questions don't produce an exculpation for the lies. They afford one a rational basis for ranking the quality of the character of various liars and for determining in what instances one should be more or less circumspect of an individual's statements. Though it's tiresome to have to fact check someone, but if one must, it's at least useful to know when the need to do so is greater and when it's lesser.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"If you like your plan..."

 

[imawhosure]

Can we wonder which one of these brilliant trump supporters can name an authoritarian regime, government, power, etc. that came to power and did not attack the press? Surely these intellectual giants can show us the folks who took away freedoms and even became dictatorial entities without first neutralizing the media.

Oh, you mean like when Obama attacked Fox News, hehehehehehehehehehe!

And hey, can you tell us when was there ever a time.........legally...............that the press got in bed with a political party, hehehehehehe!

Your easy Camp, and good for you. Must not be one of those astro turfers full of left wing narratives, cause if you are, you are sucking it out-)

Sounds like you are unable to answer the question. Actually, it sounds like you guys are not even bright enough to comprehend the question.

And so, the question to Camp goes like this-------->

1. Is he stating that ONLY authoritarian regimes attack the press, meaning that Obama therefore was AUTHORITARIAN!

or

2. Is he rather suggesting that since Trump attacked the press his administration must be authoritarian, there fore so was Obama's?

or

3. Is he suggesting that Trump is an authoritarian, and ignore Obama's attacking of the press because he, the brilliant leftist, says so!

Obama did not have an authoritarian government, you dunce. If he did he would not have had to deal with a republican congress and would have been able to name a Justice to the Supreme Court. Your argument relies on making up your own elementary and silly definition of what an authoritarian government is. Either that or you just don't know what an authoritarian government is.

By the way, dope, attacking or criticizing the press is not the same as neutralizing it or controlling it.

Is Trump controlling the press now? You mean after 1 weekend in office, lol. You need a safe space do you, lol.

You are soooooo hyperbolic, and are attempting to create another false narrative there little snowflake.

QUESTION TO THE BRILLIANT CAMPY-----------> Was that attack on our embassy the fault of a video?!?!?!?!

Now then oh dumb one.........tell us again, WHO was controlling the press? Or, are you suggesting that the press was in bed with the Obama administration!

You are the fool, not us. You have been lied to for 8 long years, and now you start bitching. Fine, I am with you, but don't flake out on us. Hold Washingtons feet to the fire, but ALL of Washington, including the far leftists, ok!

 

[NoNukes]

The NYT is fake news....

Embarrassing owebo is an easy task: Pants on Fire for Trump claim that millions voted illegally

Politifact is fake news....

Once again, owebo's argument consists of typing the words "fake news", On a four-word sentence. Embarrassment #2.

Embarrassing owebo is an easy task: Pants on Fire for Trump claim that millions voted illegally

Politifact is fake news....

Once again, owebo's argument consists of typing the words "fake news", On a four-word sentence. Embarrassment #2.

Do let us know if you choose to use non fake news, won't you......

I agree with Owebo. We seen what the MSM did, they have zero credibility and will no longer be accepted as any sort of proof. In logical circles, asking the MSM about a Republican after the recent revelations, is akin to asking the Japanese if they really bombed Pearl Harbor.

Sorry, you and your MSM friends did it to yourselves, and nobody has denied it. You can think you proved something, but the only person you proved it to was yourself. Now you have got to do better than the MSM, and you can thank your fellow Democrats, and the MSM for throwing their credibility out the window!

Trump, his lies, and his lying administration spokespeople are being mocked and call liars all over the world for telling provable lies and demanding the world believe their lies. His supporters are left whining about fake news, a term they don't even comprehend.

They are turning into a cult. they believe all of the lies that trump and his people spout and repeat them. It is true that they are the laughing stock of the world. 'Alternative facts' may be the biggest joke of the year, however, it is only January.

 

[Camp]

Can we wonder which one of these brilliant trump supporters can name an authoritarian regime, government, power, etc. that came to power and did not attack the press? Surely these intellectual giants can show us the folks who took away freedoms and even became dictatorial entities without first neutralizing the media.

Oh, you mean like when Obama attacked Fox News, hehehehehehehehehehe!

And hey, can you tell us when was there ever a time.........legally...............that the press got in bed with a political party, hehehehehehe!

Your easy Camp, and good for you. Must not be one of those astro turfers full of left wing narratives, cause if you are, you are sucking it out-)

Sounds like you are unable to answer the question. Actually, it sounds like you guys are not even bright enough to comprehend the question.

And so, the question to Camp goes like this-------->

1. Is he stating that ONLY authoritarian regimes attack the press, meaning that Obama therefore was AUTHORITARIAN!

or

2. Is he rather suggesting that since Trump attacked the press his administration must be authoritarian, there fore so was Obama's?

or

3. Is he suggesting that Trump is an authoritarian, and ignore Obama's attacking of the press because he, the brilliant leftist, says so!

Obama did not have an authoritarian government, you dunce. If he did he would not have had to deal with a republican congress and would have been able to name a Justice to the Supreme Court. Your argument relies on making up your own elementary and silly definition of what an authoritarian government is. Either that or you just don't know what an authoritarian government is.

By the way, dope, attacking or criticizing the press is not the same as neutralizing it or controlling it.

Is Trump controlling the press now? You mean after 1 weekend in office, lol. You need a safe space do you, lol.

You are soooooo hyperbolic, and are attempting to create another false narrative there little snowflake.

QUESTION TO THE BRILLIANT CAMPY-----------> Was that attack on our embassy the fault of a video?!?!?!?!

Now then oh dumb one.........tell us again, WHO was controlling the press? Or, are you suggesting that the press was in bed with the Obama administration!

You are the fool, not us. You have been lied to for 8 long years, and now you start bitching. Fine, I am with you, but don't flake out on us. Hold Washingtons feet to the fire, but ALL of Washington, including the far leftists, ok!

I never said trump had established an authoritarian government. That is you delusional mind at work. I merely pointed out that that is how they started. Your a waste of time debating. Hell, you are actually screaming about Benghazi.

 

[buckeye45_73]

The NYT is fake news....

Embarrassing owebo is an easy task: Pants on Fire for Trump claim that millions voted illegally

Yeah they are objective, you're so full of shit. You may not admit it, but we know they are an arm of the democrat party, everyone knows this.

 

[owebo]

Embarrassing owebo is an easy task: Pants on Fire for Trump claim that millions voted illegally

Politifact is fake news....

Once again, owebo's argument consists of typing the words "fake news", On a four-word sentence. Embarrassment #2.

Politifact is fake news....

Once again, owebo's argument consists of typing the words "fake news", On a four-word sentence. Embarrassment #2.

Do let us know if you choose to use non fake news, won't you......

I agree with Owebo. We seen what the MSM did, they have zero credibility and will no longer be accepted as any sort of proof. In logical circles, asking the MSM about a Republican after the recent revelations, is akin to asking the Japanese if they really bombed Pearl Harbor.

Sorry, you and your MSM friends did it to yourselves, and nobody has denied it. You can think you proved something, but the only person you proved it to was yourself. Now you have got to do better than the MSM, and you can thank your fellow Democrats, and the MSM for throwing their credibility out the window!

Trump, his lies, and his lying administration spokespeople are being mocked and call liars all over the world for telling provable lies and demanding the world believe their lies. His supporters are left whining about fake news, a term they don't even comprehend.

They are turning into a cult. they believe all of the lies that trump and his people spout and repeat them. It is true that they are the laughing stock of the world. 'Alternative facts' may be the biggest joke of the year, however, it is only January.

Your liberal alt-facts are hilarious and the world is laughing at you right along with us...

 

[NoNukes]

Politifact is fake news....

Once again, owebo's argument consists of typing the words "fake news", On a four-word sentence. Embarrassment #2.

Once again, owebo's argument consists of typing the words "fake news", On a four-word sentence. Embarrassment #2.

Do let us know if you choose to use non fake news, won't you......

I agree with Owebo. We seen what the MSM did, they have zero credibility and will no longer be accepted as any sort of proof. In logical circles, asking the MSM about a Republican after the recent revelations, is akin to asking the Japanese if they really bombed Pearl Harbor.

Sorry, you and your MSM friends did it to yourselves, and nobody has denied it. You can think you proved something, but the only person you proved it to was yourself. Now you have got to do better than the MSM, and you can thank your fellow Democrats, and the MSM for throwing their credibility out the window!

Trump, his lies, and his lying administration spokespeople are being mocked and call liars all over the world for telling provable lies and demanding the world believe their lies. His supporters are left whining about fake news, a term they don't even comprehend.

They are turning into a cult. they believe all of the lies that trump and his people spout and repeat them. It is true that they are the laughing stock of the world. 'Alternative facts' may be the biggest joke of the year, however, it is only January.

Your liberal alt-facts are hilarious and the world is laughing at you right along with us...

You should get out into the world. Or just check out Facebook.

 

[owebo]

Once again, owebo's argument consists of typing the words "fake news", On a four-word sentence. Embarrassment #2.

Do let us know if you choose to use non fake news, won't you......

I agree with Owebo. We seen what the MSM did, they have zero credibility and will no longer be accepted as any sort of proof. In logical circles, asking the MSM about a Republican after the recent revelations, is akin to asking the Japanese if they really bombed Pearl Harbor.

Sorry, you and your MSM friends did it to yourselves, and nobody has denied it. You can think you proved something, but the only person you proved it to was yourself. Now you have got to do better than the MSM, and you can thank your fellow Democrats, and the MSM for throwing their credibility out the window!

Trump, his lies, and his lying administration spokespeople are being mocked and call liars all over the world for telling provable lies and demanding the world believe their lies. His supporters are left whining about fake news, a term they don't even comprehend.

They are turning into a cult. they believe all of the lies that trump and his people spout and repeat them. It is true that they are the laughing stock of the world. 'Alternative facts' may be the biggest joke of the year, however, it is only January.

Your liberal alt-facts are hilarious and the world is laughing at you right along with us...

You should get out into the world. Or just check out Facebook.

I don't do your liberal fascistbook.....to much alt-facts for me.....

 

[NoNukes]

I agree with Owebo. We seen what the MSM did, they have zero credibility and will no longer be accepted as any sort of proof. In logical circles, asking the MSM about a Republican after the recent revelations, is akin to asking the Japanese if they really bombed Pearl Harbor.

Sorry, you and your MSM friends did it to yourselves, and nobody has denied it. You can think you proved something, but the only person you proved it to was yourself. Now you have got to do better than the MSM, and you can thank your fellow Democrats, and the MSM for throwing their credibility out the window!

Trump, his lies, and his lying administration spokespeople are being mocked and call liars all over the world for telling provable lies and demanding the world believe their lies. His supporters are left whining about fake news, a term they don't even comprehend.

They are turning into a cult. they believe all of the lies that trump and his people spout and repeat them. It is true that they are the laughing stock of the world. 'Alternative facts' may be the biggest joke of the year, however, it is only January.

Your liberal alt-facts are hilarious and the world is laughing at you right along with us...

You should get out into the world. Or just check out Facebook.

I don't do your liberal fascistbook.....to much alt-facts for me.....

More proof of why you are so ignorant.

 

[owebo]

Trump, his lies, and his lying administration spokespeople are being mocked and call liars all over the world for telling provable lies and demanding the world believe their lies. His supporters are left whining about fake news, a term they don't even comprehend.

They are turning into a cult. they believe all of the lies that trump and his people spout and repeat them. It is true that they are the laughing stock of the world. 'Alternative facts' may be the biggest joke of the year, however, it is only January.

Your liberal alt-facts are hilarious and the world is laughing at you right along with us...

You should get out into the world. Or just check out Facebook.

I don't do your liberal fascistbook.....to much alt-facts for me.....

More proof of why you are so ignorant.

More alt-facts....you're good at that....