Native American Boy Pulled From Class Over Mohawk Hairstyle

[SassyIrishLass]

I think it's stupid, if the kid wants a haircut like that he should be able to but if it is against the school dress code he should abide by the rule. I mean liberals are all about rules, right?

 

[Pogo]

Native Americans were and are real - a proven fact. That religious cult bullshit you mentioned is pure fantasy stemming from one book of fairy tales.

Except there are no "native" Americans, everyone migrated here from somewhere

Except we got here about 5000 years before you.

Regardless there is no such thing as native American

By that logic, do you refer to yourself as a Mesopotamian?

No, I'm an AMERICAN. My heritage plays no part in that.

To paraphrase Jefferson "if you're an anything - hyphenated American, you aren't an American at all"

---- George Jefferson?

 

[Pogo]

I think it's stupid, if the kid wants a haircut like that he should be able to but if it is against the school dress code he should abide by the rule. I mean liberals are all about rules, right?

The school doesn't have a dress code that prohibits it.
That's (one of) the stupid part(s). It's just authority being authority for the sake of authority.

 

[Camp]

Liberal logic

"conformity at school is a bad thing


unless you bring your bible to school, wear a religious item, mention God, or otherwise let the world know you are a Christian, THAT is distracting to other students"

fucking idiots.

Native Americans were and are real - a proven fact. That religious cult bullshit you mentioned is pure fantasy stemming from one book of fairy tales.

Except there are no "native" Americans, everyone migrated here from somewhere

Except we got here about 5000 years before you.

Regardless there is no such thing as native American

Yes there is. It isn't up to you to make up definitions to suite your political agenda or ignore definitions that are used by the general public, scholars, historians and other educated and non educated people. That authority is given to the folks who produce a product called dictionaries. They are the governing entities that determine the validity of words and terms and define them. Your silly political agenda to redefine the meaning a word or term means absolutely nothing outside of your own head.

 

[jknowgood]

"To ostracize him like that -- that's stuff from the '50s."

A young Native American student in Utah is back in class after school staff sent him to the office claiming his Mohawk hairstyle violated school policy.

“They wanted Kobe to come home until we cut his hair,” Gary Sanden, the father of 7-year-old Jakobe Sanden, told the Salt Lake Tribune. “That’s who he is. That’s part of his culture.”

Gary Sanden is a member of the Seneca Nation and his wife, Teyawwna Sanden, is a member of the Kaibab Band of Paiutes Indians, Fox 13 reported.

Their son was kicked out of his second-grade class at Arrowhead Elementary School in the city of Santa Clara on Monday after showing up sporting the haircut he got the previous Friday. Administrators called Jakobe's parents to tell them the boy's hairstyle violated school policy and he needed to change it, Gary Sanden told The Washington Post.

The school’s online handbook does not mention any specific hairstyles, The Post pointed out, but simply states that “extremes in body piercings, hair styles and hair colors may be considered a distraction or disruption.”

“We had the students that weren’t used to it,” Arrowhead Principal Susan Harrah told Fox 13. “They had called that out. So the teacher brought the student to my attention.”

School officials initially asked Teyawwna Sanden to pick up her son and change his hair, Gary Sanden told news station WFAA. Both parents offered to bring in their tribal membership cards to prove their heritage, but the school said they needed documentation from a tribal leader.

The couple got Seneca Nation Councillor William Canella to write to the superintendent.

“It is common for Seneca boys to wear a Mohawk because after years of discrimination and oppression, they are proud to share who they are," Canella wrote.

Native American Boy Pulled From Class Over Mohawk Hairstyle

When I was in school, a lot of boys wore Mohawks - including whites. This young man has every right to express his proud heritage.

Just think your fellow liberals will allow a boy that thinks he is a girl. To use the girls locker room, but your guy gotta cut his hair. Karma is a bitch lol!

Hair is important to Native Americans.

The Truth About Hair and Why Indians Would Keep Their Hair Long -- Sott.net

Hey I'm actually on your side on this, but your fellow liberals has tried to make society a bunch of wussies. Liberals get offended about anything.

Both sides get offended by lots of shit - but I see the white Christian NaziCons doing most of the whining.

I don't get offended, but the way liberals are trying to make all sexual perversions normal. Makes me feel sorry for all children being raised to think about sex at 4 instead of playing and having fun.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Oh good grief, the kid wasn't suspended or sent home and it's been resolved. Fail thread

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Except there are no "native" Americans, everyone migrated here from somewhere

Except we got here about 5000 years before you.

Regardless there is no such thing as native American

By that logic, do you refer to yourself as a Mesopotamian?

No, I'm an AMERICAN. My heritage plays no part in that.

To paraphrase Jefferson "if you're an anything - hyphenated American, you aren't an American at all"

---- George Jefferson?

Oops I meant Roosevelt and wrote Jefferson. My error

Teddy Roosevelt's "Unhyphenated America" Speech - Unhyphenated America

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Liberal logic

"conformity at school is a bad thing


unless you bring your bible to school, wear a religious item, mention God, or otherwise let the world know you are a Christian, THAT is distracting to other students"

fucking idiots.

Native Americans were and are real - a proven fact. That religious cult bullshit you mentioned is pure fantasy stemming from one book of fairy tales.

Except there are no "native" Americans, everyone migrated here from somewhere

Except we got here about 5000 years before you.

Regardless there is no such thing as native American

Yes there is. It isn't up to you to make up definitions to suite your political agenda or ignore definitions that are used by the general public, scholars, historians and other educated and non educated people. That authority is given to the folks who produce a product called dictionaries. They are the governing entities that determine the validity of words and terms and define them. Your silly political agenda to redefine the meaning a word or term means absolutely nothing outside of your own head.

No there isn't. they migrated here. Fact. The rest of your gibberish is just that, gibberish

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

His Mohawk did not violate school policy

Obviously it did or someone at the school mistakenly thought it did, otherwise they would not have sent him home.

Personally, I have no problem with his hair cut and if it is truly against dress code they should change the code because it's stupid. I just read a story a couple of months ago about a boy who got sent home from his school for having shaved his head at a cancer fund raiser. The school said shaved heads was against the dress code.

 

[jknowgood]

I think it's stupid, if the kid wants a haircut like that he should be able to but if it is against the school dress code he should abide by the rule. I mean liberals are all about rules, right?

It's the law right? Lol

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Native Americans were and are real - a proven fact.

Well, duh. Millions of people have been born here.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

His Mohawk did not violate school policy

Obviously it did or someone at the school mistakenly thought it did, otherwise they would not have sent him home.

Personally, I have no problem with his hair cut and if it is truly against dress code they should change the code because it's stupid. I just read a story a couple of months ago about a boy who got sent home from his school for having shaved his head at a cancer fund raiser. The school said shaved heads was against the dress code.

Then you go to a school board meeting and get the policy changed if you can. You don't call the national news media and cry like a little bitch.

I don't see the big deal with his haircut either. But as others have pointed out, some people asked for no tolerance policies at schools and that's what we have.

 

[Camp]

Native Americans were and are real - a proven fact. That religious cult bullshit you mentioned is pure fantasy stemming from one book of fairy tales.

Except there are no "native" Americans, everyone migrated here from somewhere

Except we got here about 5000 years before you.

Regardless there is no such thing as native American

Yes there is. It isn't up to you to make up definitions to suite your political agenda or ignore definitions that are used by the general public, scholars, historians and other educated and non educated people. That authority is given to the folks who produce a product called dictionaries. They are the governing entities that determine the validity of words and terms and define them. Your silly political agenda to redefine the meaning a word or term means absolutely nothing outside of your own head.

No there isn't. they migrated here. Fact. The rest of your gibberish is just that, gibberish

No it isn't. Right wingers like you have a pattern of adjusting definitions when you are loosing arguments. People have chosen to refer to indigenous natives to the Americas when Europeans began settling the two continents, at first as Indians and later as native Americans. It means they are derived from the indigenous persons who were indigenous at the time the Europeans arrived. It means persons whose ancestors lived hear before the Europeans arrived.
You ain't know scholar so stop pretending to be one. Use a dictionary.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Except there are no "native" Americans, everyone migrated here from somewhere

Except we got here about 5000 years before you.

Regardless there is no such thing as native American

Yes there is. It isn't up to you to make up definitions to suite your political agenda or ignore definitions that are used by the general public, scholars, historians and other educated and non educated people. That authority is given to the folks who produce a product called dictionaries. They are the governing entities that determine the validity of words and terms and define them. Your silly political agenda to redefine the meaning a word or term means absolutely nothing outside of your own head.

No there isn't. they migrated here. Fact. The rest of your gibberish is just that, gibberish

No it isn't. Right wingers like you have a pattern of adjusting definitions when you are loosing arguments. People have chosen to refer to indigenous natives to the Americas when Europeans began settling the two continents, at first as Indians and later as native Americans. It means they are derived from the indigenous persons who were indigenous at the time the Europeans arrived. It means persons whose ancestors lived hear before the Europeans arrived.
You ain't know scholar so stop pretending to be one. Use a dictionary.

"people have chosen to refer to indigenous natives"....

Who made that definition? They are not native, nobody is, fact jack.

 

[Zoom-boing]

I think it's stupid, if the kid wants a haircut like that he should be able to but if it is against the school dress code he should abide by the rule. I mean liberals are all about rules, right?

The school doesn't have a dress code that prohibits it.
That's (one of) the stupid part(s). It's just authority being authority for the sake of authority.

"Administrators called Jakobe's parents to tell them the boy's hairstyle violated school policy and he needed to change it".

If it violated school policy (even if the school policy is stupid) then the kid needs to change his hairdo. If the parents/students do not like the school policy then they can do something about changing it.

Anyone look at the pic of the kid (at the link?) Looks like he's been scalped! lol

 

[Pogo]

His Mohawk did not violate school policy

Obviously it did or someone at the school mistakenly thought it did, otherwise they would not have sent him home.

The OP article tells us:
>> The school’s online handbook does not mention any specific hairstyles, The Post pointed out, but simply states that “extremes in body piercings, hair styles and hair colors may be considered a distraction or disruption.”

“We had the students that weren’t used to it,” Arrowhead Principal Susan Harrah told Fox 13. “They had called that out. So the teacher brought the student to my attention.” <<

--- So they're arbitrarily defining "extreme" based on a regulation that's completely vague. Faced with the horror of students having to face something they "weren't used to", it does not seem to have occurred to them to say, 'well, GET used to it".

Interestingly it goes on....

>> School officials initially asked Teyawwna Sanden to pick up her son and change his hair, Gary Sanden told news station WFAA. Both parents offered to bring in their tribal membership cards to prove their heritage, but the school said they needed documentation from a tribal leader. <<


---- first the school apparently says it's a "distraction" for its being "extreme" --- then they turn around and indicate that if they're shown a bloodline ...... suddenly it won't be a 'distraction'.

Having it both ways they are?

Personally, I have no problem with his hair cut and if it is truly against dress code they should change the code because it's stupid. I just read a story a couple of months ago about a boy who got sent home from his school for having shaved his head at a cancer fund raiser. The school said shaved heads was against the dress code.

Fully agree.

 

[Camp]

Except we got here about 5000 years before you.

Regardless there is no such thing as native American

Yes there is. It isn't up to you to make up definitions to suite your political agenda or ignore definitions that are used by the general public, scholars, historians and other educated and non educated people. That authority is given to the folks who produce a product called dictionaries. They are the governing entities that determine the validity of words and terms and define them. Your silly political agenda to redefine the meaning a word or term means absolutely nothing outside of your own head.

No there isn't. they migrated here. Fact. The rest of your gibberish is just that, gibberish

No it isn't. Right wingers like you have a pattern of adjusting definitions when you are loosing arguments. People have chosen to refer to indigenous natives to the Americas when Europeans began settling the two continents, at first as Indians and later as native Americans. It means they are derived from the indigenous persons who were indigenous at the time the Europeans arrived. It means persons whose ancestors lived hear before the Europeans arrived.
You ain't know scholar so stop pretending to be one. Use a dictionary.

"people have chosen to refer to indigenous natives"....

Who made that definition? They are not native, nobody is, fact jack.

You go ahead and listen to the voices in your head and make up your own definitions and meanings for words.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Regardless there is no such thing as native American

Yes there is. It isn't up to you to make up definitions to suite your political agenda or ignore definitions that are used by the general public, scholars, historians and other educated and non educated people. That authority is given to the folks who produce a product called dictionaries. They are the governing entities that determine the validity of words and terms and define them. Your silly political agenda to redefine the meaning a word or term means absolutely nothing outside of your own head.

No there isn't. they migrated here. Fact. The rest of your gibberish is just that, gibberish

No it isn't. Right wingers like you have a pattern of adjusting definitions when you are loosing arguments. People have chosen to refer to indigenous natives to the Americas when Europeans began settling the two continents, at first as Indians and later as native Americans. It means they are derived from the indigenous persons who were indigenous at the time the Europeans arrived. It means persons whose ancestors lived hear before the Europeans arrived.
You ain't know scholar so stop pretending to be one. Use a dictionary.

"people have chosen to refer to indigenous natives"....

Who made that definition? They are not native, nobody is, fact jack.

You go ahead and listen to the voices in your head and make up your own definitions and meanings for words.

You keep on believing they didn't migrate here. Fool

 

[Pogo]

Yes there is. It isn't up to you to make up definitions to suite your political agenda or ignore definitions that are used by the general public, scholars, historians and other educated and non educated people. That authority is given to the folks who produce a product called dictionaries. They are the governing entities that determine the validity of words and terms and define them. Your silly political agenda to redefine the meaning a word or term means absolutely nothing outside of your own head.

No there isn't. they migrated here. Fact. The rest of your gibberish is just that, gibberish

No it isn't. Right wingers like you have a pattern of adjusting definitions when you are loosing arguments. People have chosen to refer to indigenous natives to the Americas when Europeans began settling the two continents, at first as Indians and later as native Americans. It means they are derived from the indigenous persons who were indigenous at the time the Europeans arrived. It means persons whose ancestors lived hear before the Europeans arrived.
You ain't know scholar so stop pretending to be one. Use a dictionary.

"people have chosen to refer to indigenous natives"....

Who made that definition? They are not native, nobody is, fact jack.

You go ahead and listen to the voices in your head and make up your own definitions and meanings for words.

You keep on believing they didn't migrate here. Fool

EVERYBODY migrated from (we think) Africa. And our Celtic forbears in Ireland migrated from southeast Eurasia.

That's not the point. The various Native Americans who came from Asia over ten thousand years ago
were the first to populate the joint. That makes them aboriginal.

/offtopic

 

[SassyIrishLass]

No there isn't. they migrated here. Fact. The rest of your gibberish is just that, gibberish

No it isn't. Right wingers like you have a pattern of adjusting definitions when you are loosing arguments. People have chosen to refer to indigenous natives to the Americas when Europeans began settling the two continents, at first as Indians and later as native Americans. It means they are derived from the indigenous persons who were indigenous at the time the Europeans arrived. It means persons whose ancestors lived hear before the Europeans arrived.
You ain't know scholar so stop pretending to be one. Use a dictionary.

"people have chosen to refer to indigenous natives"....

Who made that definition? They are not native, nobody is, fact jack.

You go ahead and listen to the voices in your head and make up your own definitions and meanings for words.

You keep on believing they didn't migrate here. Fool

EVERYBODY migrated from (we think) Africa. And our Celtic forbears in Ireland migrated from southeast Eurasia.

That's not the point. The various Native Americans who came from Asia over ten thousand years ago
were the first to populate the joint. That makes them aboriginal.

/offtopic

So you agree with me, they migrated here. Thanks