Most Palestinians see fresh peace talks as error

[Sweet_Caroline]

Btselem is an award winning and credible organization.

It is Zionist posters here who it has been proven over and over again both lie and twist the truth.

Pull the other one, it has bells on.


B'Tselem has come under intense fire for what its critics describe as misrepresenting and distorting facts.

Early in 2011, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman called for a parliamentary investigation of B'Tselem and other human rights organizations. These groups, he said, "are clearly not concerned with human rights. They spread lies, they slander and incite against the state of Israel and against Israeli soldiers... Clearly these organizations are abetting terrorism and their only objective is to undermine Israel," he said in a speech to fellow members of his right-wing Yisrael Beiteinu ("Israel our home") party.[5]

Critics of B'tselem have challenged the accuracy of its reports. The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) and the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs charged that B'tselem repeatedly classified Arab combatants and terrorists as civilian casualties.[51][52][53][54][55]

NGO Monitor said that B'tselem distorts its data and uses "abusive and demonizing rhetoric designed to elicit political support for Palestinians".[56]

Caroline B. Glick, deputy managing editor of The Jerusalem Post and former advisor to Benjamin Netanyahu, pointed to several instances where she alleged B'tselem had misrepresented Palestinian rioters or terrorists as innocent victims, or where she said B'tselem failed to report when an Arab allegedly changed his testimony about an attack by settlers.[57][58]

B'tselem and another human rights group are "radical leftist organizations with documented histories of falsifying and distorting data," charged Glick in an editorial.[57] She charged fellow journalists who covered B'tselem's reports with "professional malpractice... As long as we continue to base our national debates and policies on enemy propaganda, it should surprise no one that Israel finds itself in its current dire predicament."[57]



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[SherriMunnerlyn]

Let's examine the veracity of this posting.
In virtually every Arab nation, the Arabs are murdering each other based on religious heritage and color of garb.
There are well over 1.2 billion Arabs.

With all of this inter-murdering taking place, the Arabs are apparently terrified of the 4 million Jews living in a relatively tiny geographical area.

Not to mention the fact that I explicitly, and PURPOSELY, detailed entering the Jordanian West Bank via JORDAN.
Of course, Jordan has roadblocks across their entire border to prevent these peace loving "Palestinians" from entering Jordan.
A simple detail that the ideological mind obviously did not detect.

What hate filled nonsensical garbage that was!

Is that really the best you can do?

There's no Arab Spring?
The Sudanese Moslems are not murdering Christians?
Iran is not lead by a Totalitarian dictators?
Your response is weak.

Stay focused and explain why oil rich Arab nations can't enter the Jordanian West Bank from the Jordanian side and create a West Bank Paradise.
Stay focused.

You are the one who needs to stay focused.

We are discussing Palestine.

Not the Arab Spring.

Not Sudan, it is not part of Palestine.

Not Iran.

Not Arab nations.

The thread topic is Palestine.

Jordan is not part of Palestine either.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Wikipedia is nothing more than a Zionist propaganda site.

It has zero credibility.

Not just because its a Zionist propaganda site, but because any person can go on it and edit entries there.

In Israel, schools teach Zionists how to do it.

My children are prohibited from using it as a source, even in junior high school, by their schools who deem it to not be a credible source.

 

[Kondor3]

...
Wikipedia is nothing more than a Zionist propaganda site.

It has zero credibility.

Not just because its a Zionist propaganda site, but because any person can go on it and edit entries there.

In Israel, schools teach Zionists how to do it.

My children are prohibited from using it as a source, even in junior high school.

 

[Sally]

...
Wikipedia is nothing more than a Zionist propaganda site.

It has zero credibility.

Not just because its a Zionist propaganda site, but because any person can go on it and edit entries there.

In Israel, schools teach Zionists how to do it.

My children are prohibited from using it as a source, even in junior high school.

Actually I don't know how she does it. When my children were teenagers, who would have time for forums when they take up a lot of time? There were karate classes, bowling league, Little League Baseball Practice, driving my kids to three different houses to visit friends, driving them to the beach and going to the movies with them, helping them with their Algebra and Geometry homework, etc. Add factor in dusting, polishing laundry, cooking, grocery shopping, etc. I certainly would have no time for forums unless I had a full-time housekeeper to do all this stuff for the kids and also take care of the house..

 

[TRFjr]

Right. Palestinian's resisting the foreign occupation of their land, are called terrorists.

Israeli troops murdering innocent Palestinian civilians, are merely defending Israel.

You're pretty in the head!

I'll tell you this, after all the shit Zionists have done to the Palestinian's...
... Israeli's should be killed!

first off it was never Palestine land it was always owned by someone else second Israel was rightfully given to the Jews by the united nations and the other parts of Israel was occupied obtained from the spoils of war that Israel wasn't the aggressor

when you are the aggressor in a war and you lose that war there is consequences just ask Germany and Japan. should we give all the land back to Germany and Japan they had before they lost ww2

The UN did not give Israel any land.

The Palestinians never lost a war with Israel.

the land of Israel was under British control after ww1 and stayed under their control after ww2 it was bought by the Jews soon after and sanctioned by the UN and reconized as the Jewish state of Israel the land that the Palestine was occupying was under Syrian and Egypt control when Syria and Egypt attacked Israel and lost they lost some of their territory along Israel's border

question why wasn't the Palestinian try to win their independents when that land they are occupying was under Syrian control why did they wait till Israel gained control of that land from the spoils of war

 

[TRFjr]

first off it was never Palestine land it was always owned by someone else second Israel was rightfully given to the Jews by the united nations and the other parts of Israel was occupied obtained from the spoils of war that Israel wasn't the aggressor

when you are the aggressor in a war and you lose that war there is consequences just ask Germany and Japan. should we give all the land back to Germany and Japan they had before they lost ww2

Holding onto land seized in a war has been illegal since the end of WWII.

Only if you was the aggressor of that war Israel was attacked unprovoked

Also how then did N.Vietnam able to keep all of S. Vietnam and then recognized as a sovereign nation of Vietnam by the UN if they illegally did so

 

[Alfalfa]

first off it was never palestine land it was always owned by someone else second israel was rightfully given to the jews by the united nations and the other parts of israel was occupied obtained from the spoils of war that israel wasn't the aggressor

when you are the aggressor in a war and you lose that war there is consequences just ask germany and japan. Should we give all the land back to germany and japan they had before they lost ww2

the un did not give israel any land.

The palestinians never lost a war with israel.

the land of israel was under british control after ww1 and stayed under their control after ww2 it was bought by the jews soon after and sanctioned by the un and reconized as the jewish state of israel the land that the palestine was occupying was under syrian and egypt control when syria and egypt attacked israel and lost they lost some of their territory along israel's border

question why wasn't the palestinian try to win their independents when that land they are occupying was under syrian control why did they wait till israel gained control of that land from the spoils of war

warning! Incoming from haifa!

BTW - What are you talking about? Is this what they're teaching impressionable young minds in israel these days?

 

[Alfalfa]

first off it was never Palestine land it was always owned by someone else second Israel was rightfully given to the Jews by the united nations and the other parts of Israel was occupied obtained from the spoils of war that Israel wasn't the aggressor

when you are the aggressor in a war and you lose that war there is consequences just ask Germany and Japan. should we give all the land back to Germany and Japan they had before they lost ww2

Holding onto land seized in a war has been illegal since the end of WWII.

Only if you was the aggressor of that war Israel was attacked unprovoked

Also how then did N.Vietnam able to keep all of S. Vietnam and then recognized as a sovereign nation of Vietnam by the UN if they illegally did so

Ebonics is not your friend.

 

[theliq]

How did the Jews not honor the Mandate.

Did you not read Lord Balfour's comment?

Yes, of course. So, tell me how they did not honor the Mandate. The land of Palestine was for the Jews, whilst the arabs were given their own lands.

The land of Palestine(which YOU beautifully agreed with) was never Jews Land other wise it would have been called Jewland,during the past 1000 years or so.

No,Palestine was invaded by Terrorist Jews......The Palestinians could never have been given their own land BECAUSE THEY ALREADY OWNED THE LAND,IT WAS/IS CALLED PALESTINE.

Confused Caroline.....just cut the Zionist Bullshit.......we are educated people on this side of the WALL.........The Palestinians are and always are.......They are going NOWHERE but their own land.

 

[theliq]

the un did not give israel any land.

The palestinians never lost a war with israel.

the land of israel was under british control after ww1 and stayed under their control after ww2 it was bought by the jews soon after and sanctioned by the un and reconized as the jewish state of israel the land that the palestine was occupying was under syrian and egypt control when syria and egypt attacked israel and lost they lost some of their territory along israel's border

question why wasn't the palestinian try to win their independents when that land they are occupying was under syrian control why did they wait till israel gained control of that land from the spoils of war

warning! Incoming from haifa!

BTW - What are you talking about? Is this what they're teaching impressionable young minds in israel these days?

.

 

[theliq]

first off it was never Palestine land it was always owned by someone else second Israel was rightfully given to the Jews by the united nations and the other parts of Israel was occupied obtained from the spoils of war that Israel wasn't the aggressor

when you are the aggressor in a war and you lose that war there is consequences just ask Germany and Japan. should we give all the land back to Germany and Japan they had before they lost ww2

The UN did not give Israel any land.

The Palestinians never lost a war with Israel.

the land of Israel was under British control after ww1 and stayed under their control after ww2 it was bought by the Jews soon after and sanctioned by the UN and reconized as the Jewish state of Israel the land that the Palestine was occupying was under Syrian and Egypt control when Syria and Egypt attacked Israel and lost they lost some of their territory along Israel's border

question why wasn't the Palestinian try to win their independents when that land they are occupying was under Syrian control why did they wait till Israel gained control of that land from the spoils of war

Moron

 

[theliq]

Btselem is an award winning and credible organization.

It is Zionist posters here who it has been proven over and over again both lie and twist the truth.

Pull the other one, it has bells on.


B'Tselem has come under intense fire for what its critics describe as misrepresenting and distorting facts.

Early in 2011, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman called for a parliamentary investigation of B'Tselem and other human rights organizations. These groups, he said, "are clearly not concerned with human rights. They spread lies, they slander and incite against the state of Israel and against Israeli soldiers... Clearly these organizations are abetting terrorism and their only objective is to undermine Israel," he said in a speech to fellow members of his right-wing Yisrael Beiteinu ("Israel our home") party.[5]

Critics of B'tselem have challenged the accuracy of its reports. The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) and the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs charged that B'tselem repeatedly classified Arab combatants and terrorists as civilian casualties.[51][52][53][54][55]

NGO Monitor said that B'tselem distorts its data and uses "abusive and demonizing rhetoric designed to elicit political support for Palestinians".[56]

Caroline B. Glick, deputy managing editor of The Jerusalem Post and former advisor to Benjamin Netanyahu, pointed to several instances where she alleged B'tselem had misrepresented Palestinian rioters or terrorists as innocent victims, or where she said B'tselem failed to report when an Arab allegedly changed his testimony about an attack by settlers.[57][58]

B'tselem and another human rights group are "radical leftist organizations with documented histories of falsifying and distorting data," charged Glick in an editorial.[57] She charged fellow journalists who covered B'tselem's reports with "professional malpractice... As long as we continue to base our national debates and policies on enemy propaganda, it should surprise no one that Israel finds itself in its current dire predicament."[57]



B'Tselem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NET AN YAR WHOO? has just been translated into English = BULL SHIT ARTIST

 

[Billo_Really]

Pull the other one, it has bells on.


B'Tselem has come under intense fire for what its critics describe as misrepresenting and distorting facts.

Early in 2011, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman called for a parliamentary investigation of B'Tselem and other human rights organizations. These groups, he said, "are clearly not concerned with human rights. They spread lies, they slander and incite against the state of Israel and against Israeli soldiers... Clearly these organizations are abetting terrorism and their only objective is to undermine Israel," he said in a speech to fellow members of his right-wing Yisrael Beiteinu ("Israel our home") party.[5]

Critics of B'tselem have challenged the accuracy of its reports. The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) and the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs charged that B'tselem repeatedly classified Arab combatants and terrorists as civilian casualties.[51][52][53][54][55]

NGO Monitor said that B'tselem distorts its data and uses "abusive and demonizing rhetoric designed to elicit political support for Palestinians".[56]

Caroline B. Glick, deputy managing editor of The Jerusalem Post and former advisor to Benjamin Netanyahu, pointed to several instances where she alleged B'tselem had misrepresented Palestinian rioters or terrorists as innocent victims, or where she said B'tselem failed to report when an Arab allegedly changed his testimony about an attack by settlers.[57][58]

B'tselem and another human rights group are "radical leftist organizations with documented histories of falsifying and distorting data," charged Glick in an editorial.[57] She charged fellow journalists who covered B'tselem's reports with "professional malpractice... As long as we continue to base our national debates and policies on enemy propaganda, it should surprise no one that Israel finds itself in its current dire predicament."[57]



B'Tselem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is nothing but apartheid Israel criminalizing dissent.

Palestinian's are not terrorists. Their resistance, is self defense.

Lieberman is a racist piece of shit, who can go fuck himself!

 

[Billo_Really]

Only if you was the aggressor of that war Israel was attacked unprovoked

Also how then did N.Vietnam able to keep all of S. Vietnam and then recognized as a sovereign nation of Vietnam by the UN if they illegally did so

It doesn't matter who started the war, conquer by conquest has been illegal since the end of WWII.

BTW, Israel was the aggressor. They started that war when their tanks rolled into Egypt.

 

[Billo_Really]

Actually I don't know how she does it. When my children were teenagers, who would have time for forums when they take up a lot of time? There were karate classes, bowling league, Little League Baseball Practice, driving my kids to three different houses to visit friends, driving them to the beach and going to the movies with them, helping them with their Algebra and Geometry homework, etc. Add factor in dusting, polishing laundry, cooking, grocery shopping, etc. I certainly would have no time for forums unless I had a full-time housekeeper to do all this stuff for the kids and also take care of the house..

Still trying to hijack threads and change the subject.

 

[Hossfly]

Actually I don't know how she does it. When my children were teenagers, who would have time for forums when they take up a lot of time? There were karate classes, bowling league, Little League Baseball Practice, driving my kids to three different houses to visit friends, driving them to the beach and going to the movies with them, helping them with their Algebra and Geometry homework, etc. Add factor in dusting, polishing laundry, cooking, grocery shopping, etc. I certainly would have no time for forums unless I had a full-time housekeeper to do all this stuff for the kids and also take care of the house..

Still trying to hijack threads and change the subject.

Don't like it, leave.

 

[Billo_Really]

The latest count there were almost 40, not 500. Do you just pick numbers out of your hat?

No, I research my topic and I am honest with my findings...

There are now 580 permanent “points of closure” throughout the West bank, from trenches and other obstacles to manned checkpoints.

...you should try it sometime.


Here's one of those checkpoints, with your Berlin Wall prison in the background.

 

[Billo_Really]

Don't like it, leave.

I'm not Palestinian, I'm an American.

And I don't run from nothing.

Especially from fuckers like you!

 

[Kondor3]

He's all yours, Pony Cav!