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Why is that?
What about starting somewhere and take it from there?
Why must a full solution be developed before we start taking action?
Why is it that a football team can be in a rebuilding mode, but our country must make full changes all at once?
Seems to me that you are the one stuck on a talking point.
when it comes to the budget though, it is the only talking about.
SS, medicare, medicaid, defense and interest on the debt account for approx 85% of the federal budget. even if you were to cut out the entire other 15% you still dont balance the budget or reduce the deficit.
if you arent willing to make any cuts or reforms in these programs, then it isnt worth talking about.
And the best way to balance the budget is to first eliminate excess spending and fraud. Then see what is out of balance and take it from there.
WHen I forecasted a bad year for my company, my wife and I sat down and immediately found things we could eliminate from our weekly spending. We then found the target revenue needed to carry what was left over and we monitored it weekly. Sure enough, we saw that my income was going to be less than the amount required so we sat down again and decided how to handle it.
It really is a process. I suggest you reconsider your stance on this. We need to push our politicians to FIRST find out what we NEED...and the best way to do that is FIRST elimninate the unecessary spending.
Sorry, I see your as a typical left talking point.
What are the Democrat positions concerning "tackling SS, medicare, medicaid, and defense"? They still control the Senate right?still until a repub talks about tackling SS, medicare, medicaid and defense, its all just talking points.
all spending bill start in the house.
and it was the republicans who campaigned on the idea of cutting spending and cutting the deficit. not the democrats
Phase our SS and Medicare.... take the axe to Medicaid IMMEDIATELY... and audit defense spending eliminating payments to non-delivering contractors, hold contractors responsible with penalties that include forfeiture of payment etc, reduce civilian red-tape in the military, cut pet projects until the TOTAL of the federal budget and intergovernmental spending is under control....
Good enough for you???
But the thing is the lefties will not hear of it
actually neither the left or the right wants to make any cuts to those programs because so much of their base relys upon it.
if you cut SS you affect just about 40 million americans who receive benefits, if even just half of those people rely on it, you effectively just put 20 millions americans on the street.
96 million americans use medicare or medicaid of their primary form of health insurance. if you cut that program out, you will put to much strain on the already strained health care system, it could possibly collapse.
now you can see why its a tough problem to tackle
No.. it is not a tough problem to tackle.. unless you are someone who wants a 'feel good' 'touchy feely' government that thinks it exists to take care of individual needs, wants, and responsibilities of citizens
Taking money out of the federal red tape machine would have more monies in the hands of earning citizens.. monies that can be spent or even given to charities that help the needy more efficiently
Much of our citizenry and our government MUST get out of this mantra that the government exists to mommy the old, sick, lame, and lazy
when it comes to the budget though, it is the only talking about.
SS, medicare, medicaid, defense and interest on the debt account for approx 85% of the federal budget. even if you were to cut out the entire other 15% you still dont balance the budget or reduce the deficit.
if you arent willing to make any cuts or reforms in these programs, then it isnt worth talking about.
And the best way to balance the budget is to first eliminate excess spending and fraud. Then see what is out of balance and take it from there.
WHen I forecasted a bad year for my company, my wife and I sat down and immediately found things we could eliminate from our weekly spending. We then found the target revenue needed to carry what was left over and we monitored it weekly. Sure enough, we saw that my income was going to be less than the amount required so we sat down again and decided how to handle it.
It really is a process. I suggest you reconsider your stance on this. We need to push our politicians to FIRST find out what we NEED...and the best way to do that is FIRST elimninate the unecessary spending.
Sorry, I see your as a typical left talking point.
if you want to balance the budget you still need to address these issues. you cant just simply say that i will cut out everything else without addressing these key areas. and since no one on the right or left is willing to right now, its all BS
actually neither the left or the right wants to make any cuts to those programs because so much of their base relys upon it.
if you cut SS you affect just about 40 million americans who receive benefits, if even just half of those people rely on it, you effectively just put 20 millions americans on the street.
96 million americans use medicare or medicaid of their primary form of health insurance. if you cut that program out, you will put to much strain on the already strained health care system, it could possibly collapse.
now you can see why its a tough problem to tackle
No.. it is not a tough problem to tackle.. unless you are someone who wants a 'feel good' 'touchy feely' government that thinks it exists to take care of individual needs, wants, and responsibilities of citizens
Taking money out of the federal red tape machine would have more monies in the hands of earning citizens.. monies that can be spent or even given to charities that help the needy more efficiently
Much of our citizenry and our government MUST get out of this mantra that the government exists to mommy the old, sick, lame, and lazy
so what is your suggestion for all those people who depends on SS, medicare and medicaid to live? just push them all out on the street?
What are the Democrat positions concerning "tackling SS, medicare, medicaid, and defense"? They still control the Senate right?
all spending bill start in the house.
and it was the republicans who campaigned on the idea of cutting spending and cutting the deficit. not the democrats
Do you support deficit spending?
*sigh*
I wonder if Aqua is looking at this thread and thinking;
"These cocksuckers derailed my thread at the first post!"
I know I would be.
And the best way to balance the budget is to first eliminate excess spending and fraud. Then see what is out of balance and take it from there.
WHen I forecasted a bad year for my company, my wife and I sat down and immediately found things we could eliminate from our weekly spending. We then found the target revenue needed to carry what was left over and we monitored it weekly. Sure enough, we saw that my income was going to be less than the amount required so we sat down again and decided how to handle it.
It really is a process. I suggest you reconsider your stance on this. We need to push our politicians to FIRST find out what we NEED...and the best way to do that is FIRST elimninate the unecessary spending.
Sorry, I see your as a typical left talking point.
if you want to balance the budget you still need to address these issues. you cant just simply say that i will cut out everything else without addressing these key areas. and since no one on the right or left is willing to right now, its all BS
Are you intentionally ignoring what I am saying or am I not articulting my point well enough?
How can we know how much to cut if we dont know how much we will need?
First thing is to cut waste and fraud...then see what the deficit is....THEN we can start looking to cut the deficit....and how to do it.
all spending bill start in the house.
and it was the republicans who campaigned on the idea of cutting spending and cutting the deficit. not the democrats
Do you support deficit spending?
no i actually do not support deficit spending. which is why i said that these areas need to be addressed. im not saying they should be simply axed, or had funding cut by 50%. The deficit reduction commission came out with some good ideas.
http://www.fiscalcommission.gov/sit...files/documents/TheMomentofTruth12_1_2010.pdf
but it was not backed by enough members to bring to the senate floor. maybe they should follow these reccomendations
Army Missile Program Dependent on Flawed Contractor Plan Requirements Shortfalls Could Result in Weapon "Of Little Value"
February 12, 2008
For several years, the Army ceded its oversight to a contractor resulting in a situation where the Army lacked any means of ensuring that taxpayer money is well-spent and that weapons met requirements. By relying on the contractor's plan instead of developing its own, the Army lacked ways to gauge the performance of the Raytheon Company which led to a missile program that is not cost-effective, according to a recent Department of Defense Inspector General (DoD IG) December 2007 "For Official Use Only" audit obtained by POGO through the Freedom of Information Act.
The Army's $623 million Surface-Launched Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (SLAMRAAM) is a weapons system meant to protect U.S. ground forces from attacks from the air from unmanned aerial vehicles, cruise missiles, helicopters and planes.
Wasteful Defense Spending
Except that war and national defense is actually a constitutional charge of the federal government... your well being, VD shots, mole removals, broken pinky fingers, antibiotics, retirement income, etc are not
Except that war and national defense is actually a constitutional charge of the federal government... your well being, VD shots, mole removals, broken pinky fingers, antibiotics, retirement income, etc are not
the constitution does state "promote the general welfare" which has been interpreted to mean that government can provide those things.
Except that war and national defense is actually a constitutional charge of the federal government... your well being, VD shots, mole removals, broken pinky fingers, antibiotics, retirement income, etc are not
the constitution does state "promote the general welfare" which has been interpreted to mean that government can provide those things.
Promote the general welfare is in the preamble.. and promote does not equate to provide... it equates to ensuring the freedoms for one to provide for themselves
As for the part that does mention provide... what most people forget is the rest of the phrase, which fully states "of the United States"... not the individual citizens within the states... it is to provide for the needs of the union as a whole, not the individual needs of every last person within the union.... we were NEVER intended to have a nanny state government
the constitution does state "promote the general welfare" which has been interpreted to mean that government can provide those things.
Promote the general welfare is in the preamble.. and promote does not equate to provide... it equates to ensuring the freedoms for one to provide for themselves
As for the part that does mention provide... what most people forget is the rest of the phrase, which fully states "of the United States"... not the individual citizens within the states... it is to provide for the needs of the union as a whole, not the individual needs of every last person within the union.... we were NEVER intended to have a nanny state government
take up that argument with the supreme court. since they have ruled that the government can do those things.
you might also find a list of other things not actually listed in the constitution that government provides legally:
The Air Force
Congressional Districts
The Electoral College
Executive Order
Executive Privilege
Freedom of Expression
(Absolute) Freedom of Speech and Press
"From each according to his ability..."
God
Immigration
Impeachment means removal from office
Innocent until proven guilty
It's a free country
Judicial Review
Jury of Peers
"Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"
Marriage
Martial Law
No taxation without representation
Number of Justices in the Supreme Court
"Of the people, by the people, for the people"
Paper Money
Political Parties
Primary Elections
Qualifications for Judges
The right to privacy
The right to travel
The right to vote
The separation of church and state
The Separation of Powers Clause
Slavery
"We hold these truths to be self-evident"
Things That Are Not In the U.S. Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
Except that war and national defense is actually a constitutional charge of the federal government... your well being, VD shots, mole removals, broken pinky fingers, antibiotics, retirement income, etc are not
the constitution does state "promote the general welfare" which has been interpreted to mean that government can provide those things.
Promote the general welfare is in the preamble.. and promote does not equate to provide... it equates to ensuring the freedoms for one to provide for themselves
As for the part that does mention provide... what most people forget is the rest of the phrase, which fully states "of the United States"... not the individual citizens within the states... it is to provide for the needs of the union as a whole, not the individual needs of every last person within the union.... we were NEVER intended to have a nanny state government
