Discussion in 'Environment' started by skookerasbil, Sep 20, 2013.
A troll being someone who refuses to goose step.
The more the world relies on it = the harder we will fall when we run out. The sad part of it all is the fact that renewables will allow for a much more stable economic system....Prices won't go up or down like we're seeing today.
What does the right wing do? Whine and hate them. Do they really want us defending all the oil, coal and natural gas fields on this plant????
Co2 is only a small reason to move over to renewables. Renewables take advantage of a resource that we don't have to worry about, 1. finding, 2. protecting or 3. going up or down economically.
One day we will all see this as soon.
Many think oil is peaking now
Natural gas another 30-40 years
Coal around 2030???
Peaking means not increasing in scale. So of course we will not see them totally run out.
Oil climbs peak, economies plumb depressions and the future will not imitate the past | ZDNet
Just goes to show you that they're finite.
Did those experts predict 20 years ago that the US would be the largest oil producer in the world?
Let's assume that your references have correctly assumed that oil is supply limited. People in America will pay whatever they have to to get what we need. We outbid China and India.
That means that we have 80 years or so to replace every car, truck, and plane with things that don't run on liquid fuel.
Let's assume that the majority of those things move to the electrical grid. That means in those years we are going to have to add to our electrical generation capability all of the energy that we now consume in liquid fuels as well as meeting the ever growing demand for current electric uses.
I think that we are already screwed.
Solar alone(23,000twh/endless) you could cover 1% of the surface of this planet could run our civilization.
I'd put up around 500 gw of wind...This is sucking from 25-70twh.
We could use a mixture of wave, bio-mass, etc for the rest.
Of course a good question is what do we need if we stop foolish waste.
Why would you cover the planet when you can put them in orbit?
Says the fucking goosestepper! Everything you guys want would have given Hitler a massive hard-on.
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