“Moral Sewage”: Trump Is The Opposite Of Christianity

[NYcarbineer]

It wasn’t me who called Donald Trump’s campaign “reality television moral sewage.” The person who said that was none other than Russell Moore, the very conservative president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. And it isn’t just things like calling women fat pigs, commenting on women based on how they look, or talking about the size of his penis in a nationally televised debate. Donald Trump’s entire philosophy of life is predicated on the Ayn Randian notion of the ‘virtue of selfishness,’ the belief that power and wealth are the zenith of what is important and good in the world — not more old-fashioned values like basic human decency. Is there a clearer antithesis to what Jesus preached in the gospels?

Jesus denounced those who lie; extolled the virtues of humility; said that we should treat everyone as we would want to be treated and that we should welcome the outsider; and preached that every person would be judged by whether they showed compassion for the poor. Trump hasn’t shown even a hint of any of those qualities in his business or political life.

That’s why Republicans are so uncomfortable when they are asked whether Trump is a good role model for Christian values. Check out the video of my colleague Andrea Haverdink asking Republican members of Congress that question. Note the uncomfortable looks on their faces, and that the vast majority avoid answering the question at all:



"Moral Sewage": Trump Is The Opposite Of Christianity

No "true" Christian would ever vote for Trump. It's that simple.

Has Trump proclaimed to be a moral Christian?

Not some nutter claiming it but Trump himself?

Judge for yourself...

Donald Trump has described himself as “Presbyterian and Protestant,” a “Sunday church person” and a collector of Bibles.

Now the presumptive Republican presidential nominee reportedly can add “born-again Christian” to that list, too, according to one of the members of Trump’s new evangelical advisory board.

Is Donald Trump now a born-again Christian?

Trump is a new Christian. Not much unlike the children Jesus spoke of in the verse below.

If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.

Matthew 9:42

So many backslidden Christians judging Trump by the standards of their own backslidden Christianity. They should be encouraging Trump to grow in his Christianity. Not this.

Intolerance of those not just like you is the new Christianity? Or the old Christianity?

What is that supposed to even mean?

Tell us what your post was supposed to mean first.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Everyone’s concept of what makes for a true Christian varies at least to some degree. They each interpret passages from the Bible from their own personal perspective - a perspective that is always subject to change.

All Christians believe in God, but just not the same exact God. This customization of belief means that all Christians are true Christians.

Christianity is a very large ship with many helms.

all Christians believe in God but just not the same exact God?? WHAT?
Have you even ever just driven past a church, not asking in you actually stepped in it or anything, but just driven by one.
I ask because you have totally no clue at all about Christianity

Does being a good Christian require that one adhere to the teachings of Jesus,

or just that one accept Christ as one's saviour?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Has Trump proclaimed to be a moral Christian?

Not some nutter claiming it but Trump himself?

Judge for yourself...

Donald Trump has described himself as “Presbyterian and Protestant,” a “Sunday church person” and a collector of Bibles.

Now the presumptive Republican presidential nominee reportedly can add “born-again Christian” to that list, too, according to one of the members of Trump’s new evangelical advisory board.

Is Donald Trump now a born-again Christian?

Trump is a new Christian. Not much unlike the children Jesus spoke of in the verse below.

If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.

Matthew 9:42

So many backslidden Christians judging Trump by the standards of their own backslidden Christianity. They should be encouraging Trump to grow in his Christianity. Not this.

Intolerance of those not just like you is the new Christianity? Or the old Christianity?

What is that supposed to even mean?

Tell us what your post was supposed to mean first.

It's not my problem that you can't proficiently read and comprehend the English language.

Keep reading it until you understand the meaning if possible.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Everyone’s concept of what makes for a true Christian varies at least to some degree. They each interpret passages from the Bible from their own personal perspective - a perspective that is always subject to change.

All Christians believe in God, but just not the same exact God. This customization of belief means that all Christians are true Christians.

Christianity is a very large ship with many helms.

all Christians believe in God but just not the same exact God?? WHAT?
Have you even ever just driven past a church, not asking in you actually stepped in it or anything, but just driven by one.
I ask because you have totally no clue at all about Christianity

Does being a good Christian require that one adhere to the teachings of Jesus,

or just that one accept Christ as one's saviour?

Both.

 

[SmokeALib]

Everyone’s concept of what makes for a true Christian varies at least to some degree. They each interpret passages from the Bible from their own personal perspective - a perspective that is always subject to change.

All Christians believe in God, but just not the same exact God. This customization of belief means that all Christians are true Christians.

Christianity is a very large ship with many helms.

all Christians believe in God but just not the same exact God?? WHAT?
Have you even ever just driven past a church, not asking in you actually stepped in it or anything, but just driven by one.
I ask because you have totally no clue at all about Christianity

Does being a good Christian require that one adhere to the teachings of Jesus,

or just that one accept Christ as one's saviour?

A "good Christian", dumass?
Really?
Are you a good little "socialist drone"?
You're the reason why cities like Compton are thriving.
Absolutely no fuckin clue.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Everyone’s concept of what makes for a true Christian varies at least to some degree. They each interpret passages from the Bible from their own personal perspective - a perspective that is always subject to change.

All Christians believe in God, but just not the same exact God. This customization of belief means that all Christians are true Christians.

Christianity is a very large ship with many helms.

all Christians believe in God but just not the same exact God?? WHAT?
Have you even ever just driven past a church, not asking in you actually stepped in it or anything, but just driven by one.
I ask because you have totally no clue at all about Christianity

Does being a good Christian require that one adhere to the teachings of Jesus,

or just that one accept Christ as one's saviour?

Both.

And where does Trump qualify in regards to part one?

 

[kaz]

It wasn’t me who called Donald Trump’s campaign “reality television moral sewage.” The person who said that was none other than Russell Moore, the very conservative president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. And it isn’t just things like calling women fat pigs, commenting on women based on how they look, or talking about the size of his penis in a nationally televised debate. Donald Trump’s entire philosophy of life is predicated on the Ayn Randian notion of the ‘virtue of selfishness,’ the belief that power and wealth are the zenith of what is important and good in the world — not more old-fashioned values like basic human decency. Is there a clearer antithesis to what Jesus preached in the gospels?

Jesus denounced those who lie; extolled the virtues of humility; said that we should treat everyone as we would want to be treated and that we should welcome the outsider; and preached that every person would be judged by whether they showed compassion for the poor. Trump hasn’t shown even a hint of any of those qualities in his business or political life.

That’s why Republicans are so uncomfortable when they are asked whether Trump is a good role model for Christian values. Check out the video of my colleague Andrea Haverdink asking Republican members of Congress that question. Note the uncomfortable looks on their faces, and that the vast majority avoid answering the question at all:



"Moral Sewage": Trump Is The Opposite Of Christianity

No "true" Christian would ever vote for Trump. It's that simple.

So Tonto, I mean yeah, Trump sucks. But seriously. You ... are ... voting ... for ... for ... for ... HILLARY! Your hypocrisy reeks. Another white whine spritzer, redskin?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Everyone’s concept of what makes for a true Christian varies at least to some degree. They each interpret passages from the Bible from their own personal perspective - a perspective that is always subject to change.

All Christians believe in God, but just not the same exact God. This customization of belief means that all Christians are true Christians.

Christianity is a very large ship with many helms.

all Christians believe in God but just not the same exact God?? WHAT?
Have you even ever just driven past a church, not asking in you actually stepped in it or anything, but just driven by one.
I ask because you have totally no clue at all about Christianity

Does being a good Christian require that one adhere to the teachings of Jesus,

or just that one accept Christ as one's saviour?

A "good Christian", dumass?
Really?
Are you a good little "socialist drone"?
You're the reason why cities like Compton are thriving.
Absolutely no fuckin clue.

Nice meltdown.

 

[easyt65]

If TRUMP is moral sewage, what does that make Bill Clinton, the man who is a life-long sexual assaulter, sexual harasser, rapist, adulterer, and pedophile?!

 

[SmokeALib]

Everyone’s concept of what makes for a true Christian varies at least to some degree. They each interpret passages from the Bible from their own personal perspective - a perspective that is always subject to change.

All Christians believe in God, but just not the same exact God. This customization of belief means that all Christians are true Christians.

Christianity is a very large ship with many helms.

all Christians believe in God but just not the same exact God?? WHAT?
Have you even ever just driven past a church, not asking in you actually stepped in it or anything, but just driven by one.
I ask because you have totally no clue at all about Christianity

Does being a good Christian require that one adhere to the teachings of Jesus,

or just that one accept Christ as one's saviour?

A "good Christian", dumass?
Really?
Are you a good little "socialist drone"?
You're the reason why cities like Compton are thriving.
Absolutely no fuckin clue.

Nice meltdown.

Just pointing out the obvious....

 

[Lakhota]

If TRUMP is moral sewage, what does that make Bill Clinton, the man who is a life-long sexual assaulter, sexual harasser, rapist, adulterer, and pedophile?!

Deflect much?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Everyone’s concept of what makes for a true Christian varies at least to some degree. They each interpret passages from the Bible from their own personal perspective - a perspective that is always subject to change.

All Christians believe in God, but just not the same exact God. This customization of belief means that all Christians are true Christians.

Christianity is a very large ship with many helms.

all Christians believe in God but just not the same exact God?? WHAT?
Have you even ever just driven past a church, not asking in you actually stepped in it or anything, but just driven by one.
I ask because you have totally no clue at all about Christianity

Does being a good Christian require that one adhere to the teachings of Jesus,

or just that one accept Christ as one's saviour?

Both.

And where does Trump qualify in regards to part one?

I dunno. You tell me. You liberals seem to be the experts on Trump's relationship with Christ all of a sudden.

 

[easyt65]

If TRUMP is moral sewage, what does that make Bill Clinton, the man who is a life-long sexual assaulter, sexual harasser, rapist, adulterer, and pedophile?!

Deflect much?

Says the man who just deflected in order to prevent answering my question...

 

[Yousaidwhat]

This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:1-7

The Bible tells us how to pick leaders of the church. Should we apply those same principles when choosing a leader for our nation?

Trump is not blameless
Hillary is not blameless
Trump is not the husband of one wife
Hillary is not the husband of one wife but she has only been married once.
Trump is greedy of filthy lucre
Hillary is greedy of filthy lucre
Trump is a novice to politics
Hillary is not a novice to politics

I am a loyal Republican that believes my convictions do not matter. I also believe that choosing a divorcee to be my leader is a great mistake. Hillary has stood by her husband even when she didn't have to do so. Marriage is the foundation of society. Having another divorce explosion like we had in the 80's under Reagan probably wouldn't be a good thing. Having a leader who exhibits respect for her marriage by being loyal in sickness in health, for better or worse, until death do us part sets a positive example that would be a very beneficial element to stabilizing homes. Stabilized homes create stabilized communities. Stabilized communities create stabilized cities. Stabilized cities create stabilized counties. So on and so forth. I see this as a positive thing.

My convictions say that I should vote for Hillary.
My loyalty to the party says I should vote for Trump.

I'm stumped. I can't agree with you when you say, "It's that simple." Not for me it isn't.

No "true" Christian would ever vote for Trump. It's that simple.

Hillary stayed married, but she is not for the institution of marriage.

Monetary convenience or Stepford wives syndrome?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

It wasn’t me who called Donald Trump’s campaign “reality television moral sewage.” The person who said that was none other than Russell Moore, the very conservative president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. And it isn’t just things like calling women fat pigs, commenting on women based on how they look, or talking about the size of his penis in a nationally televised debate. Donald Trump’s entire philosophy of life is predicated on the Ayn Randian notion of the ‘virtue of selfishness,’ the belief that power and wealth are the zenith of what is important and good in the world — not more old-fashioned values like basic human decency. Is there a clearer antithesis to what Jesus preached in the gospels?

Jesus denounced those who lie; extolled the virtues of humility; said that we should treat everyone as we would want to be treated and that we should welcome the outsider; and preached that every person would be judged by whether they showed compassion for the poor. Trump hasn’t shown even a hint of any of those qualities in his business or political life.

That’s why Republicans are so uncomfortable when they are asked whether Trump is a good role model for Christian values. Check out the video of my colleague Andrea Haverdink asking Republican members of Congress that question. Note the uncomfortable looks on their faces, and that the vast majority avoid answering the question at all:



"Moral Sewage": Trump Is The Opposite Of Christianity

No "true" Christian would ever vote for Trump. It's that simple.

why.
What is it your heathen ass knows that Christians dont.

 

[The Great Goose]

This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:1-7

The Bible tells us how to pick leaders of the church. Should we apply those same principles when choosing a leader for our nation?

Trump is not blameless
Hillary is not blameless
Trump is not the husband of one wife
Hillary is not the husband of one wife but she has only been married once.
Trump is greedy of filthy lucre
Hillary is greedy of filthy lucre
Trump is a novice to politics
Hillary is not a novice to politics

I am a loyal Republican that believes my convictions do not matter. I also believe that choosing a divorcee to be my leader is a great mistake. Hillary has stood by her husband even when she didn't have to do so. Marriage is the foundation of society. Having another divorce explosion like we had in the 80's under Reagan probably wouldn't be a good thing. Having a leader who exhibits respect for her marriage by being loyal in sickness in health, for better or worse, until death do us part sets a positive example that would be a very beneficial element to stabilizing homes. Stabilized homes create stabilized communities. Stabilized communities create stabilized cities. Stabilized cities create stabilized counties. So on and so forth. I see this as a positive thing.

My convictions say that I should vote for Hillary.
My loyalty to the party says I should vote for Trump.

I'm stumped. I can't agree with you when you say, "It's that simple." Not for me it isn't.

No "true" Christian would ever vote for Trump. It's that simple.

Hillary stayed married, but she is not for the institution of marriage.

Monetary convenience or Stepford wives syndrome?

Career.

She married him out of infatuation. She knew he didn't love her back but persuaded him into a partnership of convenience, hoping he would learn to love her.

More or less, that's it.

But she stayed with him for the career. And she'll be damned if anyone is going to stop her from the top job now. Even him.

Especially him.

 

[Lakhota]

This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:1-7

The Bible tells us how to pick leaders of the church. Should we apply those same principles when choosing a leader for our nation?

Trump is not blameless
Hillary is not blameless
Trump is not the husband of one wife
Hillary is not the husband of one wife but she has only been married once.
Trump is greedy of filthy lucre
Hillary is greedy of filthy lucre
Trump is a novice to politics
Hillary is not a novice to politics

I am a loyal Republican that believes my convictions do not matter. I also believe that choosing a divorcee to be my leader is a great mistake. Hillary has stood by her husband even when she didn't have to do so. Marriage is the foundation of society. Having another divorce explosion like we had in the 80's under Reagan probably wouldn't be a good thing. Having a leader who exhibits respect for her marriage by being loyal in sickness in health, for better or worse, until death do us part sets a positive example that would be a very beneficial element to stabilizing homes. Stabilized homes create stabilized communities. Stabilized communities create stabilized cities. Stabilized cities create stabilized counties. So on and so forth. I see this as a positive thing.

My convictions say that I should vote for Hillary.
My loyalty to the party says I should vote for Trump.

I'm stumped. I can't agree with you when you say, "It's that simple." Not for me it isn't.

No "true" Christian would ever vote for Trump. It's that simple.

Hillary stayed married, but she is not for the institution of marriage.

Monetary convenience or Stepford wives syndrome?

Career.

She married him out of infatuation. She knew he didn't love her back but persuaded him into a partnership of convenience, hoping he would learn to love her.

More or less, that's it.

But she stayed with him for the career. And she'll be damned if anyone is going to stop her from the top job now. Even him.

Especially him.

Why not. It's called Clinton family values - better than most NaziCons.

 

[eagle7_31]

It wasn’t me who called Donald Trump’s campaign “reality television moral sewage.” The person who said that was none other than Russell Moore, the very conservative president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. And it isn’t just things like calling women fat pigs, commenting on women based on how they look, or talking about the size of his penis in a nationally televised debate. Donald Trump’s entire philosophy of life is predicated on the Ayn Randian notion of the ‘virtue of selfishness,’ the belief that power and wealth are the zenith of what is important and good in the world — not more old-fashioned values like basic human decency. Is there a clearer antithesis to what Jesus preached in the gospels?

Jesus denounced those who lie; extolled the virtues of humility; said that we should treat everyone as we would want to be treated and that we should welcome the outsider; and preached that every person would be judged by whether they showed compassion for the poor. Trump hasn’t shown even a hint of any of those qualities in his business or political life.

That’s why Republicans are so uncomfortable when they are asked whether Trump is a good role model for Christian values. Check out the video of my colleague Andrea Haverdink asking Republican members of Congress that question. Note the uncomfortable looks on their faces, and that the vast majority avoid answering the question at all:



"Moral Sewage": Trump Is The Opposite Of Christianity

No "true" Christian would ever vote for Trump. It's that simple.

You quoting religious conservatives whom you have no use for? Now that is funny.

 

[easyt65]

Why not. It's called Clinton family values - better than most NaziCons.

So you're saying...

Career sexual assault, sexual harassment, rape, adultery, pedophilua, demonizing / bullying / silencing Bill Clinton's victims, stealing WH furniture on the way out, illegal use of unauthorized unencrypted servers, perjury, jeopardizing national security, breaking the law (FOIA / FED RECORDS ACT), Using the State Dept for the benefit of the Clinton Foundation, perjury, and more...

...are examples of 'Clinton family values'...

Got it.

 

[The Great Goose]

This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:1-7

The Bible tells us how to pick leaders of the church. Should we apply those same principles when choosing a leader for our nation?

Trump is not blameless
Hillary is not blameless
Trump is not the husband of one wife
Hillary is not the husband of one wife but she has only been married once.
Trump is greedy of filthy lucre
Hillary is greedy of filthy lucre
Trump is a novice to politics
Hillary is not a novice to politics

I am a loyal Republican that believes my convictions do not matter. I also believe that choosing a divorcee to be my leader is a great mistake. Hillary has stood by her husband even when she didn't have to do so. Marriage is the foundation of society. Having another divorce explosion like we had in the 80's under Reagan probably wouldn't be a good thing. Having a leader who exhibits respect for her marriage by being loyal in sickness in health, for better or worse, until death do us part sets a positive example that would be a very beneficial element to stabilizing homes. Stabilized homes create stabilized communities. Stabilized communities create stabilized cities. Stabilized cities create stabilized counties. So on and so forth. I see this as a positive thing.

My convictions say that I should vote for Hillary.
My loyalty to the party says I should vote for Trump.

I'm stumped. I can't agree with you when you say, "It's that simple." Not for me it isn't.

No "true" Christian would ever vote for Trump. It's that simple.

Hillary stayed married, but she is not for the institution of marriage.

Monetary convenience or Stepford wives syndrome?

Career.

She married him out of infatuation. She knew he didn't love her back but persuaded him into a partnership of convenience, hoping he would learn to love her.

More or less, that's it.

But she stayed with him for the career. And she'll be damned if anyone is going to stop her from the top job now. Even him.

Especially him.

Why not. It's called Clinton family values - better than most NaziCons.

I'm not the one judging people on their relationship. The conversation goes back a way.