Mmm. I love the smell of debunked Conservative bullshit in the morning!

No, he did not. I just told you how it could happen. I suspect you love the idea of the govt. using force to attain its goals, as opposed to the evil market place doing it. But this is what it really comes down to: Those who understand economics, and those that have not clue #1 about economics.
 
No, he did not. I just told you how it could happen. I suspect you love the idea of the govt. using force to attain its goals, as opposed to the evil market place doing it. But this is what it really comes down to: Those who understand economics, and those that have not clue #1 about economics.

I suspect you use phrases like "I suspect" to make yourself sound more intelligent. But since you're not even grasping the very basic and PROVEN concept of public health options lowering health care costs, there's no hope for you anyway, dudeguy.
 
No, he did not. I just told you how it could happen. I suspect you love the idea of the govt. using force to attain its goals, as opposed to the evil market place doing it. But this is what it really comes down to: Those who understand economics, and those that have not clue #1 about economics.

Why don't you tell us what you doing for a living and how you put your finance degree to use.

Oh, thats right, you're lower middle class and closer to poor than you are to your corporate masters who you worship and think that sucking up to them will get you their table scraps. Aim high bottom feeder.
 
No, he did not. I just told you how it could happen. I suspect you love the idea of the govt. using force to attain its goals, as opposed to the evil market place doing it. But this is what it really comes down to: Those who understand economics, and those that have not clue #1 about economics.

Why don't you tell us what you doing for a living and how you put your finance degree to use.

Oh, thats right, you're lower middle class and closer to poor than you are to your corporate masters who you worship and think that sucking up to them will get you their table scraps. Aim high bottom feeder.

Only losers think working your way up is accepting scraps and sucking up.

Loser.
 
No, he did not. I just told you how it could happen. I suspect you love the idea of the govt. using force to attain its goals, as opposed to the evil market place doing it. But this is what it really comes down to: Those who understand economics, and those that have not clue #1 about economics.

Why don't you tell us what you doing for a living and how you put your finance degree to use.

Oh, thats right, you're lower middle class and closer to poor than you are to your corporate masters who you worship and think that sucking up to them will get you their table scraps. Aim high bottom feeder.

you should talk about bottem feeders, your post is just that, nasty and classless
 
This is what will happen here only sooner. No one to pay for the government's hog.

Health care in Japan
Not all smiles
Japan’s health-care system is the envy of the world. It is also in crisis
Sep 10th 2011 | TOKYO | from the print edition


THE Japanese spend half as much on health care as do Americans, but still they live longer. Many give credit to their cheap and universal health insurance system, called kaihoken, which celebrates its 50th anniversary this year. Its virtues are legion. Japanese people see doctors twice as often as Europeans and take more life-prolonging and life-enhancing drugs. Rather than being pushed roughly out of hospital beds, they stay three times as long as the rich-world average. Life expectancy has risen from 52 in 1945 to 83 today. The country boasts one of the lowest infant-mortality rates in the world. Yet Japanese health-care costs are a mere 8.5% of GDP.

Even so, the country’s medical system is embattled. Although it needs a growing workforce to pay the bills, Japan is ageing and its population is shrinking. Since kaihoken was established in 1961, the proportion of people over 65 has quadrupled, to 23%; by 2050 it will be two-fifths of a population that will have fallen by 30m, to under 100m. “The Japanese health system that had worked in the past has begun to fail,” Kenji Shibuya of the University of Tokyo and other experts write in a new issue of the Lancet, a British medical journal, devoted to kaihoken. “The system’s inefficiencies could be tolerated in a period of high growth, but not in today’s climate of economic stagnation.”
 
:lmao:

When you can not even begin to debate the issue...ATTACK!! ATTACK!!
Color me shocked.

As for my personal finances, i do just fine. IN context of what the govt. declares me as based on the average income for my demographic, Im on the middle to lower end. I thought you fucking wankers were all about helping the less fortunate? I suppose that only applies if they agree with you. Otherwise they are just bottom feeders.

You have to love when LOLberals show their true colors. They are fascist fucktards. Plain and simple. Agree with me, or go fuckin' die! :lmao:


No the brightest LOLberal are you?
 
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No, he did not. I just told you how it could happen. I suspect you love the idea of the govt. using force to attain its goals, as opposed to the evil market place doing it. But this is what it really comes down to: Those who understand economics, and those that have not clue #1 about economics.

Why don't you tell us what you doing for a living and how you put your finance degree to use.

Oh, thats right, you're lower middle class and closer to poor than you are to your corporate masters who you worship and think that sucking up to them will get you their table scraps. Aim high bottom feeder.

Only losers think working your way up is accepting scraps and sucking up.

Loser.

Why else do you suck up to the rich while most of you cons on this site are self-admitted poor or lower middle class? Only losers will shun the poor and lower middle class while pretending you're not in the same boat as they are.
 
No, he did not. I just told you how it could happen. I suspect you love the idea of the govt. using force to attain its goals, as opposed to the evil market place doing it. But this is what it really comes down to: Those who understand economics, and those that have not clue #1 about economics.

Why don't you tell us what you doing for a living and how you put your finance degree to use.

Oh, thats right, you're lower middle class and closer to poor than you are to your corporate masters who you worship and think that sucking up to them will get you their table scraps. Aim high bottom feeder.

you should talk about bottem feeders, your post is just that, nasty and classless

Let me check again.....nope it's not.
 
:lmao:

When you can not even begin to debate the issue...ATTACK!! ATTACK!!
Color me shocked.

As for my personal finances, i do just fine. IN context of what the govt. declares me as based on the average income for my demographic, Im on the middle to lower end. I thought you fucking wankers were all about helping the less fortunate? I suppose that only applies if they agree with you. Otherwise they are just bottom feeders.

You have to love when LOLberals show their true colors. They are fascist fucktards. Plain and simple. Agree with me, or go fuckin' die! :lmao:


No the brightest LOLberal are you?

I am about helping the less fortunate, doesn't mean I can't call you out for being an idiot. Show me anywhere that I said you or any other poor person who truly needs help should not get it. You can't, because I didn't. Learn the difference. Or wait for your corporate masters to tell you the difference.
 
Why don't you tell us what you doing for a living and how you put your finance degree to use.

Oh, thats right, you're lower middle class and closer to poor than you are to your corporate masters who you worship and think that sucking up to them will get you their table scraps. Aim high bottom feeder.

Only losers think working your way up is accepting scraps and sucking up.

Loser.

Why else do you suck up to the rich while most of you cons on this site are self-admitted poor or lower middle class? Only losers will shun the poor and lower middle class while pretending you're not in the same boat as they are.

You're a fucking envious, classless toolshed. The amount of money, especially the amount declared by the govt, does not dictate how rich someone is. That is a status attained based on personal goals and happiness, you self-righteous, envious, lazy bully.

My income is just fine. I make plenty of money. it is the govt. that declares me "lower to middle" income based on demographics. and currently they are running ads to get more people on food stampes because "it makes you look and feel good."

You're, Im afraid, way too fucking clueless to even find the light switch. Not that Im surprised or anything.
 
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So wait, is it a tax or is it not a tax?

It's a penalty levied under the tax act. Oh, you can't understand the SCOTUS' opinion either? It's okay, Gramps. We're here to help.

what about the 22 new taxes embedded within the bill? Those penalities too?

Most of those are on the health insurance providers who are going to see a massive boom of income when the millions of customers show up at their doorsteps looking to buy coverage to avoid the non-coverage tax/penalty/doughnut/whateverthefuckyoucallit.
 
It's a penalty levied under the tax act. Oh, you can't understand the SCOTUS' opinion either? It's okay, Gramps. We're here to help.

what about the 22 new taxes embedded within the bill? Those penalities too?

Most of those are on the health insurance providers who are going to see a massive boom of income when the millions of customers show up at their doorsteps looking to buy coverage to avoid the non-coverage tax/penalty/doughnut/whateverthefuckyoucallit.

passed on to your dumb ass.
 
:lmao:

When you can not even begin to debate the issue...ATTACK!! ATTACK!!
Color me shocked.

As for my personal finances, i do just fine. IN context of what the govt. declares me as based on the average income for my demographic, Im on the middle to lower end. I thought you fucking wankers were all about helping the less fortunate? I suppose that only applies if they agree with you. Otherwise they are just bottom feeders.

You have to love when LOLberals show their true colors. They are fascist fucktards. Plain and simple. Agree with me, or go fuckin' die! :lmao:


No the brightest LOLberal are you?

I am about helping the less fortunate, doesn't mean I can't call you out for being an idiot. Show me anywhere that I said you or any other poor person who truly needs help should not get it. You can't, because I didn't. Learn the difference. Or wait for your corporate masters to tell you the difference.

if YOU are all about helping the less fortuante, get your lazy self-righteous ass out of the fuckign chair and go help. Stop asking someone else to do it by force. You get no fucking moral credit for voting to have someone else do it for you by stealing from someone else at gunpoint. Ya fucking puke.
 
Health is not guaranteed to anybody, especially at your command and at everyone else's expense.

Health is not, you are correct. But we should make affordable health care a guarantee. Just like a safe and healthy water supply, or safe drugs or safe products......

Well as we see with Obamacare it's not going make health care any more affordable, just that people will have more of the IRS breathing down their necks...of course some of you that don't have to worry about it don't care

I think there have been several posters who have put forth some reasonable arguments as to why it will lead to lower cost. Thanks to them all./
 
No, he did not. I just told you how it could happen. I suspect you love the idea of the govt. using force to attain its goals, as opposed to the evil market place doing it. But this is what it really comes down to: Those who understand economics, and those that have not clue #1 about economics.

I suspect you use phrases like "I suspect" to make yourself sound more intelligent. But since you're not even grasping the very basic and PROVEN concept of public health options lowering health care costs, there's no hope for you anyway, dudeguy.

Physician, heal thyself.
 
what about the 22 new taxes embedded within the bill? Those penalities too?

Most of those are on the health insurance providers who are going to see a massive boom of income when the millions of customers show up at their doorsteps looking to buy coverage to avoid the non-coverage tax/penalty/doughnut/whateverthefuckyoucallit.

passed on to your dumb ass.

Right. And then when they can't prove that 80-85% of the money they charged me WENT DIRECTLY TO MEDICAL COVERAGE guess what they have to do, by law?

Reimburse me.

Fuck. I just impressed myself. Gonna have to repost this one again, just so you can let the sting sink in a little bit.
 

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