Minimal Wage. Raises. Inflation. Cost of living.

[Markle]

Minimal wage increases every few years. Some employees get a raise every year if they are lucky, but some raises are insulting. Busting your butt, never late, never call off, take extra shifts, and you prove to be most reliable, just to be taken advantage of because the manager or supervisor knows you will do whatever they ask with out hesitation, so instead of wasting their time asking another employee that might not be so good or fast as you, and might be defiant and slack off. So being taken advantage of for a whole year and coming up is raise time. You are sitting in the office for your review, and the have nothing but good things to say, you are their best employee and this is the best review you have ever got. Then they tell you that you got a 15 cent raise. That is insulting if I ever got a raise that low I would tell them to keep it. Some companies once you are maxed out there is nothing to look forward to. No matter how much longer you are with that company. If that happens companies should give bonuses every year to keep employees moral up.
The Government decides to raise minimal wage every so often, to make it look like they are doing something good for the people. And the people that are making minimal wage actually believe The government did something for them.
Well in reality if inflation and cost of living increases faster then the minimal wage increases, it really doesn't matter if minimal wage increased at all if inflation and cost of living increases more and higher then minimal wage.

Ex. minimal Wage- $7.25
Gallon of milk-$4.50
Gas- $3.00 a gallon
gas bill- $100
electric bill- $70
rent- $500


Minimal Wage increases to- $8.00
Gallon of milk- $5.25
Gas- $4.00 a gallon
gas bill- $150
electric- $100
rent- $550


Minimal Wage -$8.00
milk $5.50
gas- 4.25
gas bill- $160
electric- $110
rent- $570

So if inflation and cost of living increases more often then minimal wage you are really not making more.

I think minimal wage and raises should increase at the same rate of inflation and cost of living. Also a minimal wage a company can pay their employees should be based on how much that company makes. If company A is making more then company B, company A minimal wage would be higher then company Bs minimal wage.

Which is better than no minimum wage and people being unable to pay for milk, gas, gas bill, electric and rent, I guess.

have you, or anyone you know, ever taken a job that didn't pay enough to cover bills?

If you do, how old were you/they?

You ever walk into mcdonalds and see people in their early 20s or older people that should be retired? while I was going to school I worked at mcdonalds overnight, class was 7-1 everyday m-f so I needed a job for 6 months that I wouldn't care to loose. What they expect from people making $7.25/hour is crazy. I made $14.00 bucks an hour, and for 8 ours I would load up 8-12 pieces of aluminum to be machined, which took 5-10 minutes to load 4 at a time and press a button. Each piece had to go through 2 different processes and the 1st one took 2 hours and second process took 1 hour 45 minutes. So I would just sit there most of time. Mcdonalds expect way to much. I worked with other people their and they were struggling, and taking home $478 every 2 weeks aint cutting it. Also they wouldn't allow any over time.
I just feel pay rates should increase with the cost of living and inflation, thus would make employees happier and a happier employee means, they better job they will do and the more reliable they will be.

Great plan until reality steps in and blows your idea to hell.

My wife works in a call center for the second largest cable provider in the country. They start their employees at over $15.00 an hour. Their problem? They hire young people who refuse to show up for work, are late if they do show up, and refuse to follow the processes set forth by the company. Then they are aghast when they get fired. Their turnover rate in the 18-30 year-old worker demographic is horrendous!

Because the problem with this and future generations they fill they are entitled. They fill as those they should make $30-$40 an hour starting off. They have no concept of, you have to start somewhere. They want immediate results. They feel as though they are always right, and that they cant go to work today because they have a headache, caused by all the alcohol they drank the night before.
They are becoming lazier and lazier. Their parents are babying them for far to long. They see one of their friends making good money so they think they should too. Its Now, Now, Now with them. No patience. Shit if I got the opportunity to get a job starting off at $15 an hour when I was 18- early 20s I would of worked everyday, would of took any overtime or extra shifts. That would of been good money. Shit it still is good money.

But "Reality" is, there is people working at a job that pays $7.25 an hour, for whatever the reason may be. They don't have any health coverage, no vacation time, no paid days off, or any other benefits. Yet that company expects them to show up on time every day, don't miss any days. They expect you to complete your job plus more. If they see you are a fast and accurate worker, Managers will take advantage and make you do more, then expect that all the time, while joe over there barely gets his job done everyday and been working there for years.

If a company pays minimal wage they should at least offer benefits.

To me a person working for $7.25 an hour with no benefits, they are the modern day slave.

You say then don't work there or take that job. Well "reality" is someone has to do the work, and for some that might be their only option

Please answer this for us all, please. What is the typical household income where one of the workers is earning minimum wage?

How many households are there in the U.S. that exist on the income of one worker earning the minimum wage?

If you can't do that, you really have no clue what you are talking about, do you?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I see where you coming from, The business perspective, Why pay people more if they are willing to work and do this job for $7.25?

But doesn't mean that person will work to their full potential.
There has been studies on employees with higher morale, and how else can you raise employee morale? More money.
Their production will increase, the will do a better job, tardiness will decrease, and decreased negative talk to new hires.

I worked at a place temporarily, and the hired on employees that were responsible in training me on the job, would tell me nothing but negative things about that company. examples: "Why you choose to work here? I would look for another job before you get stuck here.", "This company doesn't care about their employees, they just want more and more, and don't notice the hard work we put in." "The company down the street pays more and offers better benefits." I'm sure you know what I am talking about.

Then they would train me the wrong way to cut corners to get it done faster. Missing details and not thoroughly completing the task.
So then wouldn't know the proper procedure when questioned.
There are reasons why the company has proper procedures for each individual job task.

Also the people who do work for $7.25 are most likely not offered health care benefits, vision or dental benefits, vacation days, personal paid days off, or 401k, or any other benefits that other companies may offer.
And now with it being mandatory to find alternative health care or be fined each year you go with out by our government, taking the fine amount out of the tax money you are getting back from them.

Someone told me that they were looking for health care plans out side of their company, and some cost as high as $260 a month, that would be $3120 a year. But lets say this person, making $7.25/hr needs health insurance because of a medical reason, otherwise wouldn't be able to afford to take care of their health problem. So they get lucky and find a plan for $100 bucks a month and that is only for medical problems, no vision or dental. SO $100 a month for a year is $1200 a year.

Say on day their tooth begins to hurt. They will miss work, and it wouldn't be a paid day off, so there is 8 hours gone right there, and 8 hours less out of a check for making $7.25 is a difference. Say they are required to wear glasses to drive. That could cost a nice chunk of change.
So lets say they have to dish out $500 bucks a year for dental and vision visits.


The yearly gross income of a person making $7.25/hr, considering they worked 40 hours each week out of the year, is roughly 15,080.
Rent for an apartment in my area could be anywhere from $400 a month to $1300 a month. Obviously someone making $7.25 would have an apartment that cost $1300 a month. The best bet would to get a 1 bedroom for $550-$650 a month with all utilities included. So they just have to pay the $550-$650 and not worry about any utility bills. That is considering that the person doesn't have children or pets.
So if the person making $7.25 and hour has rent lets say $600 a month no utilities to pay. That will be $7200 a year.

So there gross income is $15080 a year. For rent, health insurance, and dental and vision visits, they are up to $8900 a year in expenses already.

Now say they need a car to get to their job, due to bus routes being cut off of service and maybe no bus route near, and their job isn't on or near a bus route. So now they need a car. Cant afford to buy a reliable car straight out, due to the fact its hard to save any kind of money living pay check to pay check. So they get a car paying $150 bucks a month and since it was through their bank they need good car insurance. Considering they have a clean driving record they might only have to pay $100-$150 a month for car insurance. Lets say $125 a month for car insurance. So car payment and insurance will be together $3300 a year.

Now add $3300 on to $8900, and you get $12,200. While only making $15,080 a year, you might just make it.

So now what do you do about food and fuel for your car so you can get to that job?

What about clothes and shoes through out the year?

That person morale is going to be very, very low.

Then with cost of living and inflation going up and down all the time, that person may go with out at times. And they see there company making all this money, managers and owners driving new cars, ordering food, and living good. You are making them money to live good while you barely survive. It is just not right.

Companies should base their pay on the kind of money they make, not how easy the job is.

Companies that pay minimum wage should at least offer health insurance, vision and dental coverage, and vacation days off.

People who make minimum wage is pretty much the modern slave, just justified because they are being paid.

You really put some thought into that ... And I am not just pooping on your ideas.

But ... With all the things you mentioned ... Morale, Healthcare, Fuel Costs, Clothing etc. ... I think their best bet/option would be to shoot a little higher than the minimum.
Minimum wage shouldn't be a career choice ... If a person has a minimum wage job for a year ... They aren't doing something right.

Of course in most organizations you get rewarded (a raise and promotion) when you improve production/process.
It doesn't necessarily make sense to reward someone before they do what they are supposed to do.

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That's what I'm trying to minimum wage should be higher then the cost of living and inflation. If cost of living and/or inflation increases so should the minimum wage.

Why?

You do realize that nobody creates a business to provide jobs and a livable wage, don't you? Businesses are created to produce products, services or both for a profit. Businesses are not created as a social obligation.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Correction.

That's what I'm trying to say, Minimum wage should be at a higher rate to accommodate The increase of, the cost of living and inflation. If the cost of living increases to the point that the minimum wage is no longer sufficient enough for a person that gets paid minimum wage to live comfortably

Yeah ... I understood what you posted.

We just have a different view.
To me the minimum will never be sufficient (it's the minimum) ... And no one should be comfortable making minimum wage.

That's what I meant about minimum wage not being a sufficient career choice.
If you want to compare minimum wage to the cost of living ... I am like WTF is someone doing trying to make a living at the minimum wage?
Minimum wage is somewhere you may have to start ... But by all means don't stay there, or at that rate, long enough to be comfortable.

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Exactly. But unfortunately some people may have no choice

Who has no choice?

 

[Markle]

That's what I'm trying to minimum wage should be higher then the cost of living and inflation. If cost of living and/or inflation increases so should the minimum wage.

Why?

 

[Slyhunter]

If you don’t like what you are getting paid then find another job. Businesses don’t exist to give you a job. You aren’t owed anything.

What if there are no other jobs?
YOU: Then get Educated.
With what money?
you; i don't care fuck off and die.

 

[AntonToo]

do you understand that when min wage goes up, by force, it creates the inflation you are talking about?

common RW bullshit.

MW raises creates inflation that is a TINY FRACTION of the actual compensation increase. Much more significant are job loss effects, but they too come short of negating the pay upside overall.

CBO did extensive study on this and here are REAL effects on incomes that price in job loss and inflation.

 

[Slyhunter]

Correction.

That's what I'm trying to say, Minimum wage should be at a higher rate to accommodate The increase of, the cost of living and inflation. If the cost of living increases to the point that the minimum wage is no longer sufficient enough for a person that gets paid minimum wage to live comfortably

Yeah ... I understood what you posted.

We just have a different view.
To me the minimum will never be sufficient (it's the minimum) ... And no one should be comfortable making minimum wage.

That's what I meant about minimum wage not being a sufficient career choice.
If you want to compare minimum wage to the cost of living ... I am like WTF is someone doing trying to make a living at the minimum wage?
Minimum wage is somewhere you may have to start ... But by all means don't stay there, or at that rate, long enough to be comfortable.

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Exactly. But unfortunately some people may have no choice

Who has no choice?

minimum wage, starve to death, rob a bank. Decisions, Decisions, Decisions.

 

[Markle]

What if there are no other jobs?
YOU: Then get Educated.
With what money?
you; i don't care fuck off and die.

There are always other jobs, if not, move to where the jobs are.

Go to a trade school. Over the road, truckers make a decent pay. Some companies will even pay for you to learn.

I started with a newspaper route when I was 10. Started working on a tropical fish farm in South Miami at 13 and have never been without a job until now when I'm retired. Depending on how you count, I've had as many as four or five jobs at a time. One full time. I was fired once, spent a week and changed my career path and was working again in another week. Never out of work again.

 

[ThatDude30]

Correction.

That's what I'm trying to say, Minimum wage should be at a higher rate to accommodate The increase of, the cost of living and inflation. If the cost of living increases to the point that the minimum wage is no longer sufficient enough for a person that gets paid minimum wage to live comfortably

Yeah ... I understood what you posted.

We just have a different view.
To me the minimum will never be sufficient (it's the minimum) ... And no one should be comfortable making minimum wage.

That's what I meant about minimum wage not being a sufficient career choice.
If you want to compare minimum wage to the cost of living ... I am like WTF is someone doing trying to make a living at the minimum wage?
Minimum wage is somewhere you may have to start ... But by all means don't stay there, or at that rate, long enough to be comfortable.

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Exactly. But unfortunately some people may have no choice

Who has no choice?

Some people don't have choice. If they loose a job and have to find a new one, it might come time to take any job they can. If they don't have transportation and don't live near a bus route, the closest job may be a minimum wage job. And who knows everyone situation is different

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Correction.

That's what I'm trying to say, Minimum wage should be at a higher rate to accommodate The increase of, the cost of living and inflation. If the cost of living increases to the point that the minimum wage is no longer sufficient enough for a person that gets paid minimum wage to live comfortably

Yeah ... I understood what you posted.

We just have a different view.
To me the minimum will never be sufficient (it's the minimum) ... And no one should be comfortable making minimum wage.

That's what I meant about minimum wage not being a sufficient career choice.
If you want to compare minimum wage to the cost of living ... I am like WTF is someone doing trying to make a living at the minimum wage?
Minimum wage is somewhere you may have to start ... But by all means don't stay there, or at that rate, long enough to be comfortable.

.

Exactly. But unfortunately some people may have no choice

Who has no choice?

Some people don't have choice. If they loose a job and have to find a new one, it might come time to take any job they can. If they don't have transportation and don't live near a bus route, the closest job may be a minimum wage job. And who knows everyone situation is different

Better tighten that job up if it is loose! If not, you might lose it!

 

[ThatDude30]

Which is better than no minimum wage and people being unable to pay for milk, gas, gas bill, electric and rent, I guess.

have you, or anyone you know, ever taken a job that didn't pay enough to cover bills?

If you do, how old were you/they?

You ever walk into mcdonalds and see people in their early 20s or older people that should be retired? while I was going to school I worked at mcdonalds overnight, class was 7-1 everyday m-f so I needed a job for 6 months that I wouldn't care to loose. What they expect from people making $7.25/hour is crazy. I made $14.00 bucks an hour, and for 8 ours I would load up 8-12 pieces of aluminum to be machined, which took 5-10 minutes to load 4 at a time and press a button. Each piece had to go through 2 different processes and the 1st one took 2 hours and second process took 1 hour 45 minutes. So I would just sit there most of time. Mcdonalds expect way to much. I worked with other people their and they were struggling, and taking home $478 every 2 weeks aint cutting it. Also they wouldn't allow any over time.
I just feel pay rates should increase with the cost of living and inflation, thus would make employees happier and a happier employee means, they better job they will do and the more reliable they will be.

Great plan until reality steps in and blows your idea to hell.

My wife works in a call center for the second largest cable provider in the country. They start their employees at over $15.00 an hour. Their problem? They hire young people who refuse to show up for work, are late if they do show up, and refuse to follow the processes set forth by the company. Then they are aghast when they get fired. Their turnover rate in the 18-30 year-old worker demographic is horrendous!

Because the problem with this and future generations they fill they are entitled. They fill as those they should make $30-$40 an hour starting off. They have no concept of, you have to start somewhere. They want immediate results. They feel as though they are always right, and that they cant go to work today because they have a headache, caused by all the alcohol they drank the night before.
They are becoming lazier and lazier. Their parents are babying them for far to long. They see one of their friends making good money so they think they should too. Its Now, Now, Now with them. No patience. Shit if I got the opportunity to get a job starting off at $15 an hour when I was 18- early 20s I would of worked everyday, would of took any overtime or extra shifts. That would of been good money. Shit it still is good money.

But "Reality" is, there is people working at a job that pays $7.25 an hour, for whatever the reason may be. They don't have any health coverage, no vacation time, no paid days off, or any other benefits. Yet that company expects them to show up on time every day, don't miss any days. They expect you to complete your job plus more. If they see you are a fast and accurate worker, Managers will take advantage and make you do more, then expect that all the time, while joe over there barely gets his job done everyday and been working there for years.

If a company pays minimal wage they should at least offer benefits.

To me a person working for $7.25 an hour with no benefits, they are the modern day slave.

You say then don't work there or take that job. Well "reality" is someone has to do the work, and for some that might be their only option

Please answer this for us all, please. What is the typical household income where one of the workers is earning minimum wage?

How many households are there in the U.S. that exist on the income of one worker earning the minimum wage?

If you can't do that, you really have no clue what you are talking about, do you?[/
A 1 person household making minimum wage $7.25 an hour assuming the worked 40 hours a week and didn't miss any days, their gross is roughly $15,080
and I'm sure there are a lot of household living off 1 worker making minimum wage. But how are they living? I the person making minimum wage has to support more then just himself, That person is going to end up with enormous debt and stressed beyond belief. They might be surviving but they are surviving with bare minimum and probably go with out. And most likely if you have kids and you are making minimum wage I'm sure you can get some sort of assistance. I'm sure they live pay check to pay check, broke the day after the get paid.
No one can support a family, lets say a husband has to support his wife and two young children. Rent at $600 a month is $7,200 a month I they have utilities and cable add another $150 a month for electric, gas, water, that would be an additional $1,800 a year. So that's $9,000 a year so far, coming out of that $15,080.
Then add food, clothes, fuel for car, car payment, car insurance and any other expenses that they may have.
To me that is barely living. I'm sure there are people that have to do that, that truly how are they living?

 

[ThatDude30]

Correction.

That's what I'm trying to say, Minimum wage should be at a higher rate to accommodate The increase of, the cost of living and inflation. If the cost of living increases to the point that the minimum wage is no longer sufficient enough for a person that gets paid minimum wage to live comfortably

Yeah ... I understood what you posted.

We just have a different view.
To me the minimum will never be sufficient (it's the minimum) ... And no one should be comfortable making minimum wage.

That's what I meant about minimum wage not being a sufficient career choice.
If you want to compare minimum wage to the cost of living ... I am like WTF is someone doing trying to make a living at the minimum wage?
Minimum wage is somewhere you may have to start ... But by all means don't stay there, or at that rate, long enough to be comfortable.

.

Exactly. But unfortunately some people may have no choice

Who has no choice?

Some people don't have choice. If they loose a job and have to find a new one, it might come time to take any job they can. If they don't have transportation and don't live near a bus route, the closest job may be a minimum wage job. And who knows everyone situation is different

Who needs to tighten up their job?
Better tighten that job up if it is loose! If not, you might lose it!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

have you, or anyone you know, ever taken a job that didn't pay enough to cover bills?

If you do, how old were you/they?

You ever walk into mcdonalds and see people in their early 20s or older people that should be retired? while I was going to school I worked at mcdonalds overnight, class was 7-1 everyday m-f so I needed a job for 6 months that I wouldn't care to loose. What they expect from people making $7.25/hour is crazy. I made $14.00 bucks an hour, and for 8 ours I would load up 8-12 pieces of aluminum to be machined, which took 5-10 minutes to load 4 at a time and press a button. Each piece had to go through 2 different processes and the 1st one took 2 hours and second process took 1 hour 45 minutes. So I would just sit there most of time. Mcdonalds expect way to much. I worked with other people their and they were struggling, and taking home $478 every 2 weeks aint cutting it. Also they wouldn't allow any over time.
I just feel pay rates should increase with the cost of living and inflation, thus would make employees happier and a happier employee means, they better job they will do and the more reliable they will be.

Great plan until reality steps in and blows your idea to hell.

My wife works in a call center for the second largest cable provider in the country. They start their employees at over $15.00 an hour. Their problem? They hire young people who refuse to show up for work, are late if they do show up, and refuse to follow the processes set forth by the company. Then they are aghast when they get fired. Their turnover rate in the 18-30 year-old worker demographic is horrendous!

Because the problem with this and future generations they fill they are entitled. They fill as those they should make $30-$40 an hour starting off. They have no concept of, you have to start somewhere. They want immediate results. They feel as though they are always right, and that they cant go to work today because they have a headache, caused by all the alcohol they drank the night before.
They are becoming lazier and lazier. Their parents are babying them for far to long. They see one of their friends making good money so they think they should too. Its Now, Now, Now with them. No patience. Shit if I got the opportunity to get a job starting off at $15 an hour when I was 18- early 20s I would of worked everyday, would of took any overtime or extra shifts. That would of been good money. Shit it still is good money.

But "Reality" is, there is people working at a job that pays $7.25 an hour, for whatever the reason may be. They don't have any health coverage, no vacation time, no paid days off, or any other benefits. Yet that company expects them to show up on time every day, don't miss any days. They expect you to complete your job plus more. If they see you are a fast and accurate worker, Managers will take advantage and make you do more, then expect that all the time, while joe over there barely gets his job done everyday and been working there for years.

If a company pays minimal wage they should at least offer benefits.

To me a person working for $7.25 an hour with no benefits, they are the modern day slave.

You say then don't work there or take that job. Well "reality" is someone has to do the work, and for some that might be their only option

Please answer this for us all, please. What is the typical household income where one of the workers is earning minimum wage?

How many households are there in the U.S. that exist on the income of one worker earning the minimum wage?

If you can't do that, you really have no clue what you are talking about, do you?[/
A 1 person household making minimum wage $7.25 an hour assuming the worked 40 hours a week and didn't miss any days, their gross is roughly $15,080
and I'm sure there are a lot of household living off 1 worker making minimum wage. But how are they living? I the person making minimum wage has to support more then just himself, That person is going to end up with enormous debt and stressed beyond belief. They might be surviving but they are surviving with bare minimum and probably go with out. And most likely if you have kids and you are making minimum wage I'm sure you can get some sort of assistance. I'm sure they live pay check to pay check, broke the day after the get paid.
No one can support a family, lets say a husband has to support his wife and two young children. Rent at $600 a month is $7,200 a month I they have utilities and cable add another $150 a month for electric, gas, water, that would be an additional $1,800 a year. So that's $9,000 a year so far, coming out of that $15,080.
Then add food, clothes, fuel for car, car payment, car insurance and any other expenses that they may have.
To me that is barely living. I'm sure there are people that have to do that, that truly how are they living?

You need to learn how to quote correctly. Your posts should go after you quoted mine, not inside the quote.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

have you, or anyone you know, ever taken a job that didn't pay enough to cover bills?

If you do, how old were you/they?

You ever walk into mcdonalds and see people in their early 20s or older people that should be retired? while I was going to school I worked at mcdonalds overnight, class was 7-1 everyday m-f so I needed a job for 6 months that I wouldn't care to loose. What they expect from people making $7.25/hour is crazy. I made $14.00 bucks an hour, and for 8 ours I would load up 8-12 pieces of aluminum to be machined, which took 5-10 minutes to load 4 at a time and press a button. Each piece had to go through 2 different processes and the 1st one took 2 hours and second process took 1 hour 45 minutes. So I would just sit there most of time. Mcdonalds expect way to much. I worked with other people their and they were struggling, and taking home $478 every 2 weeks aint cutting it. Also they wouldn't allow any over time.
I just feel pay rates should increase with the cost of living and inflation, thus would make employees happier and a happier employee means, they better job they will do and the more reliable they will be.

Great plan until reality steps in and blows your idea to hell.

My wife works in a call center for the second largest cable provider in the country. They start their employees at over $15.00 an hour. Their problem? They hire young people who refuse to show up for work, are late if they do show up, and refuse to follow the processes set forth by the company. Then they are aghast when they get fired. Their turnover rate in the 18-30 year-old worker demographic is horrendous!

Because the problem with this and future generations they fill they are entitled. They fill as those they should make $30-$40 an hour starting off. They have no concept of, you have to start somewhere. They want immediate results. They feel as though they are always right, and that they cant go to work today because they have a headache, caused by all the alcohol they drank the night before.
They are becoming lazier and lazier. Their parents are babying them for far to long. They see one of their friends making good money so they think they should too. Its Now, Now, Now with them. No patience. Shit if I got the opportunity to get a job starting off at $15 an hour when I was 18- early 20s I would of worked everyday, would of took any overtime or extra shifts. That would of been good money. Shit it still is good money.

But "Reality" is, there is people working at a job that pays $7.25 an hour, for whatever the reason may be. They don't have any health coverage, no vacation time, no paid days off, or any other benefits. Yet that company expects them to show up on time every day, don't miss any days. They expect you to complete your job plus more. If they see you are a fast and accurate worker, Managers will take advantage and make you do more, then expect that all the time, while joe over there barely gets his job done everyday and been working there for years.

If a company pays minimal wage they should at least offer benefits.

To me a person working for $7.25 an hour with no benefits, they are the modern day slave.

You say then don't work there or take that job. Well "reality" is someone has to do the work, and for some that might be their only option

Please answer this for us all, please. What is the typical household income where one of the workers is earning minimum wage?

How many households are there in the U.S. that exist on the income of one worker earning the minimum wage?

If you can't do that, you really have no clue what you are talking about, do you?[/
A 1 person household making minimum wage $7.25 an hour assuming the worked 40 hours a week and didn't miss any days, their gross is roughly $15,080
and I'm sure there are a lot of household living off 1 worker making minimum wage. But how are they living? I the person making minimum wage has to support more then just himself, That person is going to end up with enormous debt and stressed beyond belief. They might be surviving but they are surviving with bare minimum and probably go with out. And most likely if you have kids and you are making minimum wage I'm sure you can get some sort of assistance. I'm sure they live pay check to pay check, broke the day after the get paid.
No one can support a family, lets say a husband has to support his wife and two young children. Rent at $600 a month is $7,200 a month I they have utilities and cable add another $150 a month for electric, gas, water, that would be an additional $1,800 a year. So that's $9,000 a year so far, coming out of that $15,080.
Then add food, clothes, fuel for car, car payment, car insurance and any other expenses that they may have.
To me that is barely living. I'm sure there are people that have to do that, that truly how are they living?

There should be no households working off minimum wage.

If you are married and have two kids and work minimum wage, you are a class A moron!

 

[ThatDude30]

You ever walk into mcdonalds and see people in their early 20s or older people that should be retired? while I was going to school I worked at mcdonalds overnight, class was 7-1 everyday m-f so I needed a job for 6 months that I wouldn't care to loose. What they expect from people making $7.25/hour is crazy. I made $14.00 bucks an hour, and for 8 ours I would load up 8-12 pieces of aluminum to be machined, which took 5-10 minutes to load 4 at a time and press a button. Each piece had to go through 2 different processes and the 1st one took 2 hours and second process took 1 hour 45 minutes. So I would just sit there most of time. Mcdonalds expect way to much. I worked with other people their and they were struggling, and taking home $478 every 2 weeks aint cutting it. Also they wouldn't allow any over time.
I just feel pay rates should increase with the cost of living and inflation, thus would make employees happier and a happier employee means, they better job they will do and the more reliable they will be.

Great plan until reality steps in and blows your idea to hell.

My wife works in a call center for the second largest cable provider in the country. They start their employees at over $15.00 an hour. Their problem? They hire young people who refuse to show up for work, are late if they do show up, and refuse to follow the processes set forth by the company. Then they are aghast when they get fired. Their turnover rate in the 18-30 year-old worker demographic is horrendous!

Because the problem with this and future generations they fill they are entitled. They fill as those they should make $30-$40 an hour starting off. They have no concept of, you have to start somewhere. They want immediate results. They feel as though they are always right, and that they cant go to work today because they have a headache, caused by all the alcohol they drank the night before.
They are becoming lazier and lazier. Their parents are babying them for far to long. They see one of their friends making good money so they think they should too. Its Now, Now, Now with them. No patience. Shit if I got the opportunity to get a job starting off at $15 an hour when I was 18- early 20s I would of worked everyday, would of took any overtime or extra shifts. That would of been good money. Shit it still is good money.

But "Reality" is, there is people working at a job that pays $7.25 an hour, for whatever the reason may be. They don't have any health coverage, no vacation time, no paid days off, or any other benefits. Yet that company expects them to show up on time every day, don't miss any days. They expect you to complete your job plus more. If they see you are a fast and accurate worker, Managers will take advantage and make you do more, then expect that all the time, while joe over there barely gets his job done everyday and been working there for years.

If a company pays minimal wage they should at least offer benefits.

To me a person working for $7.25 an hour with no benefits, they are the modern day slave.

You say then don't work there or take that job. Well "reality" is someone has to do the work, and for some that might be their only option

Please answer this for us all, please. What is the typical household income where one of the workers is earning minimum wage?

How many households are there in the U.S. that exist on the income of one worker earning the minimum wage?

If you can't do that, you really have no clue what you are talking about, do you?[/
A 1 person household making minimum wage $7.25 an hour assuming the worked 40 hours a week and didn't miss any days, their gross is roughly $15,080
and I'm sure there are a lot of household living off 1 worker making minimum wage. But how are they living? I the person making minimum wage has to support more then just himself, That person is going to end up with enormous debt and stressed beyond belief. They might be surviving but they are surviving with bare minimum and probably go with out. And most likely if you have kids and you are making minimum wage I'm sure you can get some sort of assistance. I'm sure they live pay check to pay check, broke the day after the get paid.
No one can support a family, lets say a husband has to support his wife and two young children. Rent at $600 a month is $7,200 a month I they have utilities and cable add another $150 a month for electric, gas, water, that would be an additional $1,800 a year. So that's $9,000 a year so far, coming out of that $15,080.
Then add food, clothes, fuel for car, car payment, car insurance and any other expenses that they may have.
To me that is barely living. I'm sure there are people that have to do that, that truly how are they living?

There should be no households working off minimum wage.

If you are married and have two kids and work minimum wage, you are a class A moron!

I agree

 

[TheDude]

Minimal wage increases every few years. Some employees get a raise every year if they are lucky, but some raises are insulting. Busting your butt, never late, never call off, take extra shifts, and you prove to be most reliable, just to be taken advantage of because the manager or supervisor knows you will do whatever they ask with out hesitation, so instead of wasting their time asking another employee that might not be so good or fast as you, and might be defiant and slack off. So being taken advantage of for a whole year and coming up is raise time. You are sitting in the office for your review, and the have nothing but good things to say, you are their best employee and this is the best review you have ever got. Then they tell you that you got a 15 cent raise. That is insulting if I ever got a raise that low I would tell them to keep it. Some companies once you are maxed out there is nothing to look forward to. No matter how much longer you are with that company. If that happens companies should give bonuses every year to keep employees moral up.
The Government decides to raise minimal wage every so often, to make it look like they are doing something good for the people. And the people that are making minimal wage actually believe The government did something for them.
Well in reality if inflation and cost of living increases faster then the minimal wage increases, it really doesn't matter if minimal wage increased at all if inflation and cost of living increases more and higher then minimal wage.

Ex. minimal Wage- $7.25
Gallon of milk-$4.50
Gas- $3.00 a gallon
gas bill- $100
electric bill- $70
rent- $500


Minimal Wage increases to- $8.00
Gallon of milk- $5.25
Gas- $4.00 a gallon
gas bill- $150
electric- $100
rent- $550


Minimal Wage -$8.00
milk $5.50
gas- 4.25
gas bill- $160
electric- $110
rent- $570

So if inflation and cost of living increases more often then minimal wage you are really not making more.

I think minimal wage and raises should increase at the same rate of inflation and cost of living. Also a minimal wage a company can pay their employees should be based on how much that company makes. If company A is making more then company B, company A minimal wage would be higher then company Bs minimal wage.

Well, you must be young, so I understand your ideology for Utopia. At this point in your life you're a socialist. Socialism doesn't work. Communism does however, and socialism is a step closer. BTW, 15 cent raise is a retail position, and retail sucks. Get out now.

 

[ThatDude30]

Minimal wage increases every few years. Some employees get a raise every year if they are lucky, but some raises are insulting. Busting your butt, never late, never call off, take extra shifts, and you prove to be most reliable, just to be taken advantage of because the manager or supervisor knows you will do whatever they ask with out hesitation, so instead of wasting their time asking another employee that might not be so good or fast as you, and might be defiant and slack off. So being taken advantage of for a whole year and coming up is raise time. You are sitting in the office for your review, and the have nothing but good things to say, you are their best employee and this is the best review you have ever got. Then they tell you that you got a 15 cent raise. That is insulting if I ever got a raise that low I would tell them to keep it. Some companies once you are maxed out there is nothing to look forward to. No matter how much longer you are with that company. If that happens companies should give bonuses every year to keep employees moral up.
The Government decides to raise minimal wage every so often, to make it look like they are doing something good for the people. And the people that are making minimal wage actually believe The government did something for them.
Well in reality if inflation and cost of living increases faster then the minimal wage increases, it really doesn't matter if minimal wage increased at all if inflation and cost of living increases more and higher then minimal wage.

Ex. minimal Wage- $7.25
Gallon of milk-$4.50
Gas- $3.00 a gallon
gas bill- $100
electric bill- $70
rent- $500


Minimal Wage increases to- $8.00
Gallon of milk- $5.25
Gas- $4.00 a gallon
gas bill- $150
electric- $100
rent- $550


Minimal Wage -$8.00
milk $5.50
gas- 4.25
gas bill- $160
electric- $110
rent- $570

So if inflation and cost of living increases more often then minimal wage you are really not making more.

I think minimal wage and raises should increase at the same rate of inflation and cost of living. Also a minimal wage a company can pay their employees should be based on how much that company makes. If company A is making more then company B, company A minimal wage would be higher then company Bs minimal wage.

Well, you must be young, so I understand your ideology for Utopia. At this point in your life you're a socialist. Socialism doesn't work. Communism does however, and socialism is a step closer. BTW, 15 cent raise is a retail position, and retail sucks. Get out now.

I'm speaking for those that are in that situation. I have couple friends that have minimum wage jobs, and we were just talking about last night.

 

[Slyhunter]

You ever walk into mcdonalds and see people in their early 20s or older people that should be retired? while I was going to school I worked at mcdonalds overnight, class was 7-1 everyday m-f so I needed a job for 6 months that I wouldn't care to loose. What they expect from people making $7.25/hour is crazy. I made $14.00 bucks an hour, and for 8 ours I would load up 8-12 pieces of aluminum to be machined, which took 5-10 minutes to load 4 at a time and press a button. Each piece had to go through 2 different processes and the 1st one took 2 hours and second process took 1 hour 45 minutes. So I would just sit there most of time. Mcdonalds expect way to much. I worked with other people their and they were struggling, and taking home $478 every 2 weeks aint cutting it. Also they wouldn't allow any over time.
I just feel pay rates should increase with the cost of living and inflation, thus would make employees happier and a happier employee means, they better job they will do and the more reliable they will be.

Great plan until reality steps in and blows your idea to hell.

My wife works in a call center for the second largest cable provider in the country. They start their employees at over $15.00 an hour. Their problem? They hire young people who refuse to show up for work, are late if they do show up, and refuse to follow the processes set forth by the company. Then they are aghast when they get fired. Their turnover rate in the 18-30 year-old worker demographic is horrendous!

Because the problem with this and future generations they fill they are entitled. They fill as those they should make $30-$40 an hour starting off. They have no concept of, you have to start somewhere. They want immediate results. They feel as though they are always right, and that they cant go to work today because they have a headache, caused by all the alcohol they drank the night before.
They are becoming lazier and lazier. Their parents are babying them for far to long. They see one of their friends making good money so they think they should too. Its Now, Now, Now with them. No patience. Shit if I got the opportunity to get a job starting off at $15 an hour when I was 18- early 20s I would of worked everyday, would of took any overtime or extra shifts. That would of been good money. Shit it still is good money.

But "Reality" is, there is people working at a job that pays $7.25 an hour, for whatever the reason may be. They don't have any health coverage, no vacation time, no paid days off, or any other benefits. Yet that company expects them to show up on time every day, don't miss any days. They expect you to complete your job plus more. If they see you are a fast and accurate worker, Managers will take advantage and make you do more, then expect that all the time, while joe over there barely gets his job done everyday and been working there for years.

If a company pays minimal wage they should at least offer benefits.

To me a person working for $7.25 an hour with no benefits, they are the modern day slave.

You say then don't work there or take that job. Well "reality" is someone has to do the work, and for some that might be their only option

Please answer this for us all, please. What is the typical household income where one of the workers is earning minimum wage?

How many households are there in the U.S. that exist on the income of one worker earning the minimum wage?

If you can't do that, you really have no clue what you are talking about, do you?[/
A 1 person household making minimum wage $7.25 an hour assuming the worked 40 hours a week and didn't miss any days, their gross is roughly $15,080
and I'm sure there are a lot of household living off 1 worker making minimum wage. But how are they living? I the person making minimum wage has to support more then just himself, That person is going to end up with enormous debt and stressed beyond belief. They might be surviving but they are surviving with bare minimum and probably go with out. And most likely if you have kids and you are making minimum wage I'm sure you can get some sort of assistance. I'm sure they live pay check to pay check, broke the day after the get paid.
No one can support a family, lets say a husband has to support his wife and two young children. Rent at $600 a month is $7,200 a month I they have utilities and cable add another $150 a month for electric, gas, water, that would be an additional $1,800 a year. So that's $9,000 a year so far, coming out of that $15,080.
Then add food, clothes, fuel for car, car payment, car insurance and any other expenses that they may have.
To me that is barely living. I'm sure there are people that have to do that, that truly how are they living?

There should be no households working off minimum wage.

If you are married and have two kids and work minimum wage, you are a class A moron!

i was making up to $900 a week as an independant contractor transporting mail for Bank of America. Did it for 25 years. Without notice they started using the internet and i was without a job. i couldn't collect unemployment because i was self employed. And i had nothing on my Resume for 25 years other than the ability to obey traffic laws. And no CDL. Stuff happens. The only reason I make it now is because I don't have a car. Current job doesn't pay enough to afford a car. And I make more than the minimum wage. $10 an hour is pretty good money in Florida. But not good enough. No money for college, no money for trade school, used grant money getting an AA which is a worthless piece of paper.

I never had kids. Supporting my sisters two kids instead. I've never gotten anyone pregnant.

Other people, other problems. Life is perfect until something happens and it's not. Fuck em, let em die.

 

[Markle]

It would be good, after over 500 posts, that you learned to respond to posts.

My questions:
Please answer this for us all, please. What is the typical household income where one of the workers is earning minimum wage?

How many households are there in the U.S. that exist on the income of one worker earning the minimum wage?

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The Dude30 responded.
If you can't do that, you really have no clue what you are talking about, do you?[/
A 1 person household making minimum wage $7.25 an hour assuming the worked 40 hours a week and didn't miss any days, their gross is roughly $15,080
and I'm sure there are a lot of household living off 1 worker making minimum wage. But how are they living? I the person making minimum wage has to support more then just himself, That person is going to end up with enormous debt and stressed beyond belief. They might be surviving but they are surviving with bare minimum and probably go with out. And most likely if you have kids and you are making minimum wage I'm sure you can get some sort of assistance. I'm sure they live pay check to pay check, broke the day after the get paid.
No one can support a family, lets say a husband has to support his wife and two young children. Rent at $600 a month is $7,200 a month I they have utilities and cable add another $150 a month for electric, gas, water, that would be an additional $1,800 a year. So that's $9,000 a year so far, coming out of that $15,080.
Then add food, clothes, fuel for car, car payment, car insurance and any other expenses that they may have.
To me that is barely living. I'm sure there are people that have to do that, that truly how are they living?

[/QUOTE]

Take some lessons

Thank you Dude30;

I see comprehension is not your strong suit. I've gotten ahead of myself once or twice and answered without fully reading the question.

You totally wasted a lot of useless words.

Here is a lesson for you.

Snapshot of Minimum Wage Earners in Washington State

• The average family income of a minimum wage earner in Washington State is $47,540.
• In Washington State, just 8 percent of minimum wage earners are single parents with children.
• Nearly 60 percent of minimum wage earners in Washington State live with a family member or have a spouse who also works.
• In Washington State, fewer than 4 percent of minimum wage workers have a college degree.

Who earns the minimum wage?

Less than 3 percent of all workers in the U.S. earn the federal minimum wage

• This does not include tip income earned by these minimum wage earners; many of these workers, mostly in the service industry, earn more than the minimum wage when tip income is included.

85 percent of workers who earn minimum wage live with their parents or another relative, live alone or have a working spouse.

• 25 percent are single or married with no kids
• 42 percent live with a relative
• 18 percent are a second income earner who is married, with or without children

15 percent are sole earners in families with children.

• 4 percent are single-parents working full time.

Only 3 percent of all workers age 25 and over earn the minimum wage.

Only 2 percent of full-time workers earn the minimum wage.

66 percent of all adult workers earning the minimum wage have a high school education or less.

62 percent of minimum wage earners under 25 are currently enrolled in school.

Do Most Minimum Wage Earners Live in Poverty?

No. The average family income of a minimum wage earner is $53,000 per year.

In 94 percent of families with an adult who works a job that pays at or below the minimum wage, the spouse works as well, making a two-income household.

In 8 out of 10 of the families with children present, the minimum wage accounts for less than 20 percent of the household’s total income.

Two-thirds of adults living below the poverty line do not work.

• Only 9 percent of adults living below the poverty line work full time.
• 25 percent of adults living below the poverty line work part time.

Are Most Minimum Wage Earners Stuck in a “Dead End” Job?

No. Two-thirds of minimum wage earners receive a raise within a year.

Over half of Americans entered the workforce earning within one dollar of the minimum wage.

A minimum wage worker who works 35 or more hours per week is 13 percent more likely to be promoted within a year than a minimum wage worker at 10 hours per week.

Key Facts About the Minimum Wage

Research before posting. Oh, and learn to post. You comment BELOW all the text and the very last "QUOTE"

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Correction.

That's what I'm trying to say, Minimum wage should be at a higher rate to accommodate The increase of, the cost of living and inflation. If the cost of living increases to the point that the minimum wage is no longer sufficient enough for a person that gets paid minimum wage to live comfortably

Yeah ... I understood what you posted.

We just have a different view.
To me the minimum will never be sufficient (it's the minimum) ... And no one should be comfortable making minimum wage.

That's what I meant about minimum wage not being a sufficient career choice.
If you want to compare minimum wage to the cost of living ... I am like WTF is someone doing trying to make a living at the minimum wage?
Minimum wage is somewhere you may have to start ... But by all means don't stay there, or at that rate, long enough to be comfortable.

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Exactly. But unfortunately some people may have no choice

Who has no choice?

Some people don't have choice. If they loose a job and have to find a new one, it might come time to take any job they can. If they don't have transportation and don't live near a bus route, the closest job may be a minimum wage job. And who knows everyone situation is different

I doubt there are many people with no transportation to get to a job. If that is the case, you need to move out of whatever hell hole you live in. There are no good paying jobs in the woods. If you grew up that way, you had plenty of time to make plans.