Merry Christmas! North Pole Forecast To Be 50 Degrees Warmer Than Normal This Week

[CrusaderFrank]

No 50 degree surge and that's within a week.

How can one have any confidence in the AGW "predictions"

 

[ding]

You are clearly an idiot.

Is that more of your civil conversation?

What mechanism do you propose to make the Earth warm 2C and cool 2C in 2-300 years without leaving any other evidence?

Massive volcanism without sulface aerosols?
Bolide impact?
Intelligent unicorns burn lots of coal then cleans it all up before magically disappearing?
Alien experiment?

You know, those last two can't be ruled out. By denier logic, then, I guess we have to assume one or the other actually happened. Right?

Like I said before, go look at the last four interglacial cycles. The rate comparison cannot be made. The only valid comparison is the peak temperature of each of the past four interglacials and we are still within the norm.

 

[Crick]

What were the temperature change rates? I haven't the slightest doubt that the rate was slow enough to to allow accurate determination even with the crude resolution. Let's have a look

For it's height and youth, let's take the peak at 125,000 years. It rises approximately 12C in a period of 12-13,000 years. That comes to roughly 0.1C/century. The resolution of these data is more than fine enough to accurately measure that slope. The rate of warming from 1915 to 2015 is 1.08C/century. More than ten times as fast.

 

[ding]

What were the temperature change rates? I haven't the slightest doubt that the rate was slow enough to to allow accurate determination even with the crude resolution. Let's have a look

For it's height and youth, let's take the peak at 125,000 years. It rises approximately 12C in a period of 12-13,000 years. That comes to roughly 0.1C/century. The resolution of these data is more than fine enough to accurately measure that slope. The rate of warming from 1915 to 2015 is 1.08C/century. More than ten times as fast.

Good Lord, you are proving my point. Look at the peak temperatures, dumbass.

 

[Crick]

What were the temperature change rates? I haven't the slightest doubt that the rate was slow enough to to allow accurate determination even with the crude resolution. Let's have a look

For it's height and youth, let's take the peak at 125,000 years. It rises approximately 12C in a period of 12-13,000 years. That comes to roughly 0.1C/century. The resolution of these data is more than fine enough to accurately measure that slope. The rate of warming from 1915 to 2015 is 1.08C/century. More than ten times as fast.[/QUOTE]

For those who still fail to understand the very basics of the global warming problem: the threat is not the absolute temperatures we will ever reach. It is the RATE OF CHANGE.

 

[SSDD]

What were the temperature change rates? I haven't the slightest doubt that the rate was slow enough to to allow accurate determination even with the crude resolution. Let's have a look

For it's height and youth, let's take the peak at 125,000 years. It rises approximately 12C in a period of 12-13,000 years. That comes to roughly 0.1C/century. The resolution of these data is more than fine enough to accurately measure that slope. The rate of warming from 1915 to 2015 is 1.08C/century. More than ten times as fast.

For those who still fail to understand the very basics of the global warming problem: the threat is not the absolute temperatures we will ever reach. It is the RATE OF CHANGE.[/QUOTE]


the fact that you are positive that the rate of change today is different from the rate of change in the past is a product of faith....certainly not of any actual science....but then all of AGW requires great faith....

 

[Crick]

On what basis do you reject the numbers I provided?

 

[ding]

On what basis do you reject the numbers I provided?

I love the numbers you provided. Look at the peak temperatures, dumbass.

 

[Old Rocks]

Santa may need water skis instead of a sleigh this year.

A weather buoy about 90 miles south of the North Pole registered a temperature at the melting point of 32 degrees (0 Celsius) early Thursday, as a giant storm east of Greenland drew abnormally warm air northward.

Weather models had predicted temperatures could get this warm and this buoy, part of the North Pole Environmental Observatory, provides validation.

[Pre-Christmas melt? North Pole forecast to warm 50 degrees above normal Thursday]

“It seems likely areas very close to or at the North Pole were at the freezing point” Thursday, said Zachary Labe, a doctoral student researching Arctic climate and weather at the University of California at Irvine.

Data from the buoy (No. 300234064010010, which can be downloaded here) show that air temperatures have risen more than 40 degrees in the past two days, when they hovered near minus-11 degrees (minus-24 Celsius) which, even then, was above average.

historical records back to 1958, one cannot find a more intense anomaly – except following a similar spike just five weeks ago.

Weather buoy near North Pole hits melting point

Now Comrade Frankie boi, that looks like pretty solid evidence that you are lying one more time.

Lol.

Cherry picking the one buoy at 32.

Just checked the Arctic temperatures sites and it's -19, -20, -4 and 19 the the 4 cardinal points around the circle.

No 50 degree surge

As usual, Comrade Frankie boi provides the low bar for intellect here.

Weather buoy near North Pole hits melting point

Data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center indicate the Arctic lost about 57,000 square miles of ice (148,000 square kilometers) in the past day, which is roughly the size of Illinois. Labe cautioned, however, the ice loss data are preliminary and require quality control.

In Longyearbyen, Norway, which is on the island of Svalbard in the Nordic Seas, the high reached 36 degrees Thursday, according to Weather Underground, beating the old daily record of 33 degrees.

Although it is common for large storms to transport large quantities of heat into the high Arctic, inducing large temperature swings, the intensity of warmth — more than 40 degrees above normal — has caught the attention of scientists.

This is the second time in the past five weeks such a steep rise in temperatures has occurred. In mid-November, temperatures averaged over the high Arctic were also about 30-35 degrees above normal.

[The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends]

An analysis from Climate Central, a nonprofit science organization, found that a warm event of comparable intensity to what occurred in November “would have been extremely unlikely in a climate of a century ago” before heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere had grown to current levels.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Santa may need water skis instead of a sleigh this year.

A weather buoy about 90 miles south of the North Pole registered a temperature at the melting point of 32 degrees (0 Celsius) early Thursday, as a giant storm east of Greenland drew abnormally warm air northward.

Weather models had predicted temperatures could get this warm and this buoy, part of the North Pole Environmental Observatory, provides validation.

[Pre-Christmas melt? North Pole forecast to warm 50 degrees above normal Thursday]

“It seems likely areas very close to or at the North Pole were at the freezing point” Thursday, said Zachary Labe, a doctoral student researching Arctic climate and weather at the University of California at Irvine.

Data from the buoy (No. 300234064010010, which can be downloaded here) show that air temperatures have risen more than 40 degrees in the past two days, when they hovered near minus-11 degrees (minus-24 Celsius) which, even then, was above average.

historical records back to 1958, one cannot find a more intense anomaly – except following a similar spike just five weeks ago.

Weather buoy near North Pole hits melting point

Now Comrade Frankie boi, that looks like pretty solid evidence that you are lying one more time.

Lol.

Cherry picking the one buoy at 32.

Just checked the Arctic temperatures sites and it's -19, -20, -4 and 19 the the 4 cardinal points around the circle.

No 50 degree surge

As usual, Comrade Frankie boi provides the low bar for intellect here.

Weather buoy near North Pole hits melting point

Data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center indicate the Arctic lost about 57,000 square miles of ice (148,000 square kilometers) in the past day, which is roughly the size of Illinois. Labe cautioned, however, the ice loss data are preliminary and require quality control.

In Longyearbyen, Norway, which is on the island of Svalbard in the Nordic Seas, the high reached 36 degrees Thursday, according to Weather Underground, beating the old daily record of 33 degrees.

Although it is common for large storms to transport large quantities of heat into the high Arctic, inducing large temperature swings, the intensity of warmth — more than 40 degrees above normal — has caught the attention of scientists.

This is the second time in the past five weeks such a steep rise in temperatures has occurred. In mid-November, temperatures averaged over the high Arctic were also about 30-35 degrees above normal.

[The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends]

An analysis from Climate Central, a nonprofit science organization, found that a warm event of comparable intensity to what occurred in November “would have been extremely unlikely in a climate of a century ago” before heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere had grown to current levels.

Apparently the "Arctic" and "North Pole" has now shrunk to a single buoy.

Pathetic.

 

[Old Rocks]

On what basis do you reject the numbers I provided?

I love the numbers you provided. Look at the peak temperatures, dumbass.

Dingleberry, you are truly a dumb ass. The temperatures peaked at various point in past interglacials, according to the forcings of the Milankovic Cycles. For the present interglacial, we peaked about 8000 years ago, and, by the cycles, were slowly descending toward another ice age, slowly, as in tens of thousands of years. However, when we started pumping GHGs into the atmosphere at the start of the Industrial revolution, we changed that, and now we are warming at a very rapid rate, with all that implies for our climate.

 

[Old Rocks]

Santa may need water skis instead of a sleigh this year.

A weather buoy about 90 miles south of the North Pole registered a temperature at the melting point of 32 degrees (0 Celsius) early Thursday, as a giant storm east of Greenland drew abnormally warm air northward.

Weather models had predicted temperatures could get this warm and this buoy, part of the North Pole Environmental Observatory, provides validation.

[Pre-Christmas melt? North Pole forecast to warm 50 degrees above normal Thursday]

“It seems likely areas very close to or at the North Pole were at the freezing point” Thursday, said Zachary Labe, a doctoral student researching Arctic climate and weather at the University of California at Irvine.

Data from the buoy (No. 300234064010010, which can be downloaded here) show that air temperatures have risen more than 40 degrees in the past two days, when they hovered near minus-11 degrees (minus-24 Celsius) which, even then, was above average.

historical records back to 1958, one cannot find a more intense anomaly – except following a similar spike just five weeks ago.

Weather buoy near North Pole hits melting point

Now Comrade Frankie boi, that looks like pretty solid evidence that you are lying one more time.

Lol.

Cherry picking the one buoy at 32.

Just checked the Arctic temperatures sites and it's -19, -20, -4 and 19 the the 4 cardinal points around the circle.

No 50 degree surge

As usual, Comrade Frankie boi provides the low bar for intellect here.

Weather buoy near North Pole hits melting point

Data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center indicate the Arctic lost about 57,000 square miles of ice (148,000 square kilometers) in the past day, which is roughly the size of Illinois. Labe cautioned, however, the ice loss data are preliminary and require quality control.

In Longyearbyen, Norway, which is on the island of Svalbard in the Nordic Seas, the high reached 36 degrees Thursday, according to Weather Underground, beating the old daily record of 33 degrees.

Although it is common for large storms to transport large quantities of heat into the high Arctic, inducing large temperature swings, the intensity of warmth — more than 40 degrees above normal — has caught the attention of scientists.

This is the second time in the past five weeks such a steep rise in temperatures has occurred. In mid-November, temperatures averaged over the high Arctic were also about 30-35 degrees above normal.

[The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends]

An analysis from Climate Central, a nonprofit science organization, found that a warm event of comparable intensity to what occurred in November “would have been extremely unlikely in a climate of a century ago” before heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere had grown to current levels.

Apparently the "Arctic" and "North Pole" has now shrunk to a single buoy.

Pathetic.

Apparently your brain has shrank to a single cell. Sorry about the loss of your other brain cell.

You might notice that Svalbard had a temperature of 4 degrees above freezing. And that about 148,000 square miles of the Arctic thawed. That is a rather large area for one buoy to occupy.

 

[ding]

On what basis do you reject the numbers I provided?

I love the numbers you provided. Look at the peak temperatures, dumbass.

Dingleberry, you are truly a dumb ass. The temperatures peaked at various point in past interglacials, according to the forcings of the Milankovic Cycles. For the present interglacial, we peaked about 8000 years ago, and, by the cycles, were slowly descending toward another ice age, slowly, as in tens of thousands of years. However, when we started pumping GHGs into the atmosphere at the start of the Industrial revolution, we changed that, and now we are warming at a very rapid rate, with all that implies for our climate.

The peak temperatures of three of the past four interglacials were greater than our temperature today. We are within the range of normal.

 

[ding]

On what basis do you reject the numbers I provided?

I love the numbers you provided. Look at the peak temperatures, dumbass.

Dingleberry, you are truly a dumb ass. The temperatures peaked at various point in past interglacials, according to the forcings of the Milankovic Cycles. For the present interglacial, we peaked about 8000 years ago, and, by the cycles, were slowly descending toward another ice age, slowly, as in tens of thousands of years. However, when we started pumping GHGs into the atmosphere at the start of the Industrial revolution, we changed that, and now we are warming at a very rapid rate, with all that implies for our climate.

Your assessment is flawed, but for the sake of argument, you have just admitted that you believe that atmospheric CO2 prevented an ice age, right?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Santa may need water skis instead of a sleigh this year.

A weather buoy about 90 miles south of the North Pole registered a temperature at the melting point of 32 degrees (0 Celsius) early Thursday, as a giant storm east of Greenland drew abnormally warm air northward.

Weather models had predicted temperatures could get this warm and this buoy, part of the North Pole Environmental Observatory, provides validation.

[Pre-Christmas melt? North Pole forecast to warm 50 degrees above normal Thursday]

“It seems likely areas very close to or at the North Pole were at the freezing point” Thursday, said Zachary Labe, a doctoral student researching Arctic climate and weather at the University of California at Irvine.

Data from the buoy (No. 300234064010010, which can be downloaded here) show that air temperatures have risen more than 40 degrees in the past two days, when they hovered near minus-11 degrees (minus-24 Celsius) which, even then, was above average.

historical records back to 1958, one cannot find a more intense anomaly – except following a similar spike just five weeks ago.

Weather buoy near North Pole hits melting point

Now Comrade Frankie boi, that looks like pretty solid evidence that you are lying one more time.

Lol.

Cherry picking the one buoy at 32.

Just checked the Arctic temperatures sites and it's -19, -20, -4 and 19 the the 4 cardinal points around the circle.

No 50 degree surge

As usual, Comrade Frankie boi provides the low bar for intellect here.

Weather buoy near North Pole hits melting point

Data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center indicate the Arctic lost about 57,000 square miles of ice (148,000 square kilometers) in the past day, which is roughly the size of Illinois. Labe cautioned, however, the ice loss data are preliminary and require quality control.

In Longyearbyen, Norway, which is on the island of Svalbard in the Nordic Seas, the high reached 36 degrees Thursday, according to Weather Underground, beating the old daily record of 33 degrees.

Although it is common for large storms to transport large quantities of heat into the high Arctic, inducing large temperature swings, the intensity of warmth — more than 40 degrees above normal — has caught the attention of scientists.

This is the second time in the past five weeks such a steep rise in temperatures has occurred. In mid-November, temperatures averaged over the high Arctic were also about 30-35 degrees above normal.

[The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends]

An analysis from Climate Central, a nonprofit science organization, found that a warm event of comparable intensity to what occurred in November “would have been extremely unlikely in a climate of a century ago” before heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere had grown to current levels.

Apparently the "Arctic" and "North Pole" has now shrunk to a single buoy.

Pathetic.

Apparently your brain has shrank to a single cell. Sorry about the loss of your other brain cell.

You might notice that Svalbard had a temperature of 4 degrees above freezing. And that about 148,000 square miles of the Arctic thawed. That is a rather large area for one buoy to occupy.

So that's "the North Pole"

LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

Svalbard to 90 miles south of the North Pole. And 148,000 sq. km. of melted ice. LOL And all you can do is make a comment like that? Truly down to one brain cell.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Svalbard to 90 miles south of the North Pole. And 148,000 sq. km. of melted ice. LOL And all you can do is make a comment like that? Truly down to one brain cell.

Every place else around the Arctic was -4, -19, etc. You found one outlier

 

[ding]

Holy Moly! Old Rocks is crediting AGW with saving the planet from an ice age.

Dingleberry, you are truly a dumb ass. The temperatures peaked at various point in past interglacials, according to the forcings of the Milankovic Cycles. For the present interglacial, we peaked about 8000 years ago, and, by the cycles, were slowly descending toward another ice age, slowly, as in tens of thousands of years. However, when we started pumping GHGs into the atmosphere at the start of the Industrial revolution, we changed that, and now we are warming at a very rapid rate, with all that implies for our climate.

 

[Old Rocks]

Holy Moly, Dingleberry is operating with the same brainpower as Comrade Frankie boi.

 

[ding]

Holy Moly, Dingleberry is operating with the same brainpower as Comrade Frankie boi.

Would you prefer to live in a glacial period?