CDZ Men and Women (Differences)

[ChrisL]

I certainly have no issues with girls dressing like girls, knowing they are girls, celebrating their own gender. Ditto for boys. I see that as a very healthy thing. No child should have to grow up thinking his/her gender was something to be dismissed as unimportant any more than anything else about himself or herself. I also have no problem with boys and girls appreciating each other as their own gender with their own inate characteristics and abilities.

The only place I draw the line is when we discourage children from following their dreams and interests purely based on their gender.

But what if their goal is to be the other gender?

Do you think it's healthy to encourage such things in young children? Do you believe that a young child would really understand his or her own sexuality?

If the child is LBGT then suppressing them would be unhealthy IMO.

Does a child really know WHAT they are? I don't think so.

At what age? Children ages 5 to 8 are certainly aware of sexual differences and do have sexual feeling. However, ages 9 thru 12 are when these kids really become very interested in sex. This includes masturbation, pornography, experimentation with the same and/or opposite sex. It's really in these years, that kids discover their sexual attractions, opposite sex, same sex, or both. However, they may not admit it to themselves or others. These are the years when they need the help of adults, hopefully parents, to help them understand their sexual feelings without telling them how they should feel. I think most parents can't or won't do this.

Do you have any children? Do you consider your children to be knowing or knowledgeable about sex? Do you think there are things that can interfere with their "normal" sexual development? Do you think it possible for children to become confused about their sexuality?

 

[Muhammed]

I certainly have no issues with girls dressing like girls, knowing they are girls, celebrating their own gender. Ditto for boys. I see that as a very healthy thing. No child should have to grow up thinking his/her gender was something to be dismissed as unimportant any more than anything else about himself or herself. I also have no problem with boys and girls appreciating each other as their own gender with their own inate characteristics and abilities.

The only place I draw the line is when we discourage children from following their dreams and interests purely based on their gender.

But what if their goal is to be the other gender?

Do you think it's healthy to encourage such things in young children? Do you believe that a young child would really understand his or her own sexuality?

To entourage them, No.
To discourage them, No.
It's not uncommon for young girls and boys to pretend to be of the opposite sex on occasion, particularly if an older sibling and that kid's same-sex friends are all having so much fun playing pirate, wrestling or speckling their faces with eye shadow. Children may also say they wish they were the opposite sex. The worst thing a parent can do is to try to take corrective action. The old advice love and support your children is the best thing you can do. The statistics for parents who do the opposite is horrifying.

I used to pretend I was a cat.

I'd pretend to be a cat too when I was a kid. I was a cat named "Ralex Ra Rat". I'd get on all fours, play attack my little brother and chase him around the basement.

 

[Iceweasel]

My dad used to get on all fours and say "here pussy pussy".

 

[Flopper]

But what if their goal is to be the other gender?

Do you think it's healthy to encourage such things in young children? Do you believe that a young child would really understand his or her own sexuality?

If the child is LBGT then suppressing them would be unhealthy IMO.

Does a child really know WHAT they are? I don't think so.

At what age? Children ages 5 to 8 are certainly aware of sexual differences and do have sexual feeling. However, ages 9 thru 12 are when these kids really become very interested in sex. This includes masturbation, pornography, experimentation with the same and/or opposite sex. It's really in these years, that kids discover their sexual attractions, opposite sex, same sex, or both. However, they may not admit it to themselves or others. These are the years when they need the help of adults, hopefully parents, to help them understand their sexual feelings without telling them how they should feel. I think most parents can't or won't do this.

You think it's "normal" for a 9-year-old to have sex? No, sorry but no these are children. They don't even know about sex or what they like yet. Masturbation/experimentation does not equal knowing anything at all.

I wonder how many people were molested (which happens a LOT more than we know and is reported), are sexually traumatized and completely confused, and that is the reason why some (if not a lot of them) are "gay" or "transgender." Seems like a state of utter confusion, if you ask me.

Most 9 to 12 year-old kids know a lot about sex. They know exactly what sexual intercourse is, oral sex, and even anal sex. How could they not. They are constantly exposed to it on TV and the Internet. They talk about in school and access porn on their computers and smartphones.

Sexual intercourse, oral sex, or anal sex is uncommon in 9 to 12 yearolds, less than 8%. I think the primary reason, sex isn't more common in kids of this age group is that they aren't socially developed enough to arrange it; that is they don't have the needed social skills.

There have been studies that suggest sexual abuse in young children does have an effect on sexual identity. However, the correlation is not strong. Sexual identity is as it has been in past. About 98% of all kids have no problem in identifying with their biological sex.

Archives of Sexual Behavior - Springer

 

[Flopper]

But what if their goal is to be the other gender?

Do you think it's healthy to encourage such things in young children? Do you believe that a young child would really understand his or her own sexuality?

If the child is LBGT then suppressing them would be unhealthy IMO.

Does a child really know WHAT they are? I don't think so.

At what age? Children ages 5 to 8 are certainly aware of sexual differences and do have sexual feeling. However, ages 9 thru 12 are when these kids really become very interested in sex. This includes masturbation, pornography, experimentation with the same and/or opposite sex. It's really in these years, that kids discover their sexual attractions, opposite sex, same sex, or both. However, they may not admit it to themselves or others. These are the years when they need the help of adults, hopefully parents, to help them understand their sexual feelings without telling them how they should feel. I think most parents can't or won't do this.

Do you have any children? Do you consider your children to be knowing or knowledgeable about sex? Do you think there are things that can interfere with their "normal" sexual development? Do you think it possible for children to become confused about their sexuality?

yes, yes, yes, yes, maybe.
As I said, about 98% of children will identify with their biological sex. Before age 3, most children are easily able to label themselves as either a boy or a girl. By age four, most children will have a stable sense of their gender identity. The most likely source of confusion over gender will come from parents who do not allow their children the opportunity to explore different gender roles and different styles of play. This is part of normal child develop. I child must come to their own conclusion as to who they are.

When you speak of sexuality, I'm assuming you're speaking of gender identity and not sexual preference. The two terms are quite different.

 

[Moonglow]

Men go bald more often than women

Quite unfair.....

 

[Christophera]

I get tired of hearing about the differences between men and women.
Do you think women have core similarities that are consistent in all women? What about men?

I get tired of hearing about how all women like shoes. I don't.
I get tired of hearing how emotional women ar. I'm not.
I get tired of hearing about how women always want to talk about their feelings. I don't.

You? What about men?

This thread you created reminded me of a similar issue, very much on topic for this thread. But rather than dump the stigma needed to confront upon your thread, I made one specifically to address the serious issues related to the differences between men and women.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I made a post in another thread that fully deserved getting some heavy heaviness dumped upon it, in the hopes of creating a little compassion and understanding for the millions and millions of people that could benefit from an appropriate understanding of the unconscious mind where gender differences are primarily defined.

This Woman Is a Hero she shouldn t spend one day in prison Page 5 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So continue with your pleasant banter if you will, but realize our warm happy world IS NOT going to continue eternally UNLESS some intelligent, socially fearless, compassionate people begin to address this issue.

 

[Bonzi]

I get tired of hearing about the differences between men and women.
Do you think women have core similarities that are consistent in all women? What about men?

I get tired of hearing about how all women like shoes. I don't.
I get tired of hearing how emotional women ar. I'm not.
I get tired of hearing about how women always want to talk about their feelings. I don't.

You? What about men?

This thread you created reminded me of a similar issue, very much on topic for this thread. But rather than dump the stigma needed to confront upon your thread, I made one specifically to address the serious issues related to the differences between men and women.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I made a post in another thread that fully deserved getting some heavy heaviness dumped upon it, in the hopes of creating a little compassion and understanding for the millions and millions of people that could benefit from an appropriate understanding of the unconscious mind where gender differences are primarily defined.

This Woman Is a Hero she shouldn t spend one day in prison Page 5 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So continue with your pleasant banter if you will, but realize our warm happy world IS NOT going to continue eternally UNLESS some intelligent, socially fearless, compassionate people begin to address this issue.

Can you "bottom line" this post and give me a quick summary of what you are getting at here?

Are you saying our gender predispositions are in the unconscious mind, developed from early childhood experiences (ala Freud?)

 

[ChrisL]

Do you think it's healthy to encourage such things in young children? Do you believe that a young child would really understand his or her own sexuality?

If the child is LBGT then suppressing them would be unhealthy IMO.

Does a child really know WHAT they are? I don't think so.

At what age? Children ages 5 to 8 are certainly aware of sexual differences and do have sexual feeling. However, ages 9 thru 12 are when these kids really become very interested in sex. This includes masturbation, pornography, experimentation with the same and/or opposite sex. It's really in these years, that kids discover their sexual attractions, opposite sex, same sex, or both. However, they may not admit it to themselves or others. These are the years when they need the help of adults, hopefully parents, to help them understand their sexual feelings without telling them how they should feel. I think most parents can't or won't do this.

You think it's "normal" for a 9-year-old to have sex? No, sorry but no these are children. They don't even know about sex or what they like yet. Masturbation/experimentation does not equal knowing anything at all.

I wonder how many people were molested (which happens a LOT more than we know and is reported), are sexually traumatized and completely confused, and that is the reason why some (if not a lot of them) are "gay" or "transgender." Seems like a state of utter confusion, if you ask me.

Most 9 to 12 year-old kids know a lot about sex. They know exactly what sexual intercourse is, oral sex, and even anal sex. How could they not. They are constantly exposed to it on TV and the Internet. They talk about in school and access porn on their computers and smartphones.

Sexual intercourse, oral sex, or anal sex is uncommon in 9 to 12 yearolds, less than 8%. I think the primary reason, sex isn't more common in kids of this age group is that they aren't socially developed enough to arrange it; that is they don't have the needed social skills.

There have been studies that suggest sexual abuse in young children does have an effect on sexual identity. However, the correlation is not strong. Sexual identity is as it has been in past. About 98% of all kids have no problem in identifying with their biological sex.

Archives of Sexual Behavior - Springer

1) How do you know how much each child knows about sex? Do you think it's appropriate that they know so much?
2) Is that what you really think? That is unbelievable. MOST healthy 9-year-old children are not going to have sex because they simply are not ready for it. Most 9-year-old girls would find it extremely yucky. I know that, because I was a 9-year-old girl at one time with friends. This is the age group that giggles if you mention the word "penis." They are CHILDREN and that is why they aren't arranging for sexual liaisons with other people. It is kind of creepy that you would even make such a suggestion. Unless a child is being sexually abused, they are not going to be sexually active at that age in most instances.
3) Yes, I suspect that the correlation would be extremely likely that if a little boy is sexually abused by another male that he will have some sexual identity issues, the same for a little girl being sexually abused by a female, especially if they happen to get some enjoyment out of it. Do you disagree?

 

[Christophera]

I get tired of hearing about the differences between men and women.
Do you think women have core similarities that are consistent in all women? What about men?

I get tired of hearing about how all women like shoes. I don't.
I get tired of hearing how emotional women ar. I'm not.
I get tired of hearing about how women always want to talk about their feelings. I don't.

You? What about men?

This thread you created reminded me of a similar issue, very much on topic for this thread. But rather than dump the stigma needed to confront upon your thread, I made one specifically to address the serious issues related to the differences between men and women.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I made a post in another thread that fully deserved getting some heavy heaviness dumped upon it, in the hopes of creating a little compassion and understanding for the millions and millions of people that could benefit from an appropriate understanding of the unconscious mind where gender differences are primarily defined.

This Woman Is a Hero she shouldn t spend one day in prison Page 5 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So continue with your pleasant banter if you will, but realize our warm happy world IS NOT going to continue eternally UNLESS some intelligent, socially fearless, compassionate people begin to address this issue.

Can you "bottom line" this post and give me a quick summary of what you are getting at here?

Are you saying our gender predispositions are in the unconscious mind, developed from early childhood experiences (ala Freud?)

Given genetic gender inheritance, yes. Our unconscious mind, given the genes it has inherited, is unconsciously predisposed towards behavior based in perception and response. The response patterns are developed at early childhood and reside in the unconscious with all synaptic routes with epigenetics reinforcing the actual, supporting cellular development.

 

[Derideo_Te]

I get tired of hearing about the differences between men and women.
Do you think women have core similarities that are consistent in all women? What about men?

I get tired of hearing about how all women like shoes. I don't.
I get tired of hearing how emotional women ar. I'm not.
I get tired of hearing about how women always want to talk about their feelings. I don't.

You? What about men?

This thread you created reminded me of a similar issue, very much on topic for this thread. But rather than dump the stigma needed to confront upon your thread, I made one specifically to address the serious issues related to the differences between men and women.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I made a post in another thread that fully deserved getting some heavy heaviness dumped upon it, in the hopes of creating a little compassion and understanding for the millions and millions of people that could benefit from an appropriate understanding of the unconscious mind where gender differences are primarily defined.

This Woman Is a Hero she shouldn t spend one day in prison Page 5 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So continue with your pleasant banter if you will, but realize our warm happy world IS NOT going to continue eternally UNLESS some intelligent, socially fearless, compassionate people begin to address this issue.

Can you "bottom line" this post and give me a quick summary of what you are getting at here?

Are you saying our gender predispositions are in the unconscious mind, developed from early childhood experiences (ala Freud?)

Given genetic gender inheritance, yes. Our unconscious mind, given the genes it has inherited, is unconsciously predisposed towards behavior based in perception and response. The response patterns are developed at early childhood and reside in the unconscious with all synaptic routes with epigenetics reinforcing the actual, supporting cellular development.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

 

[Christophera]

I get tired of hearing about the differences between men and women.
Do you think women have core similarities that are consistent in all women? What about men?

I get tired of hearing about how all women like shoes. I don't.
I get tired of hearing how emotional women ar. I'm not.
I get tired of hearing about how women always want to talk about their feelings. I don't.

You? What about men?

This thread you created reminded me of a similar issue, very much on topic for this thread. But rather than dump the stigma needed to confront upon your thread, I made one specifically to address the serious issues related to the differences between men and women.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I made a post in another thread that fully deserved getting some heavy heaviness dumped upon it, in the hopes of creating a little compassion and understanding for the millions and millions of people that could benefit from an appropriate understanding of the unconscious mind where gender differences are primarily defined.

This Woman Is a Hero she shouldn t spend one day in prison Page 5 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So continue with your pleasant banter if you will, but realize our warm happy world IS NOT going to continue eternally UNLESS some intelligent, socially fearless, compassionate people begin to address this issue.

Can you "bottom line" this post and give me a quick summary of what you are getting at here?

Are you saying our gender predispositions are in the unconscious mind, developed from early childhood experiences (ala Freud?)

Given genetic gender inheritance, yes. Our unconscious mind, given the genes it has inherited, is unconsciously predisposed towards behavior based in perception and response. The response patterns are developed at early childhood and reside in the unconscious with all synaptic routes with epigenetics reinforcing the actual, supporting cellular development.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Your post ignores evidence posted in a link provided.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Flopper]

If the child is LBGT then suppressing them would be unhealthy IMO.

Does a child really know WHAT they are? I don't think so.

At what age? Children ages 5 to 8 are certainly aware of sexual differences and do have sexual feeling. However, ages 9 thru 12 are when these kids really become very interested in sex. This includes masturbation, pornography, experimentation with the same and/or opposite sex. It's really in these years, that kids discover their sexual attractions, opposite sex, same sex, or both. However, they may not admit it to themselves or others. These are the years when they need the help of adults, hopefully parents, to help them understand their sexual feelings without telling them how they should feel. I think most parents can't or won't do this.

You think it's "normal" for a 9-year-old to have sex? No, sorry but no these are children. They don't even know about sex or what they like yet. Masturbation/experimentation does not equal knowing anything at all.

I wonder how many people were molested (which happens a LOT more than we know and is reported), are sexually traumatized and completely confused, and that is the reason why some (if not a lot of them) are "gay" or "transgender." Seems like a state of utter confusion, if you ask me.

Most 9 to 12 year-old kids know a lot about sex. They know exactly what sexual intercourse is, oral sex, and even anal sex. How could they not. They are constantly exposed to it on TV and the Internet. They talk about in school and access porn on their computers and smartphones.

Sexual intercourse, oral sex, or anal sex is uncommon in 9 to 12 yearolds, less than 8%. I think the primary reason, sex isn't more common in kids of this age group is that they aren't socially developed enough to arrange it; that is they don't have the needed social skills.

There have been studies that suggest sexual abuse in young children does have an effect on sexual identity. However, the correlation is not strong. Sexual identity is as it has been in past. About 98% of all kids have no problem in identifying with their biological sex.

Archives of Sexual Behavior - Springer

1) How do you know how much each child knows about sex? Do you think it's appropriate that they know so much?
2) Is that what you really think? That is unbelievable. MOST healthy 9-year-old children are not going to have sex because they simply are not ready for it. Most 9-year-old girls would find it extremely yucky. I know that, because I was a 9-year-old girl at one time with friends. This is the age group that giggles if you mention the word "penis." They are CHILDREN and that is why they aren't arranging for sexual liaisons with other people. It is kind of creepy that you would even make such a suggestion. Unless a child is being sexually abused, they are not going to be sexually active at that age in most instances.
3) Yes, I suspect that the correlation would be extremely likely that if a little boy is sexually abused by another male that he will have some sexual identity issues, the same for a little girl being sexually abused by a female, especially if they happen to get some enjoyment out of it. Do you disagree?

Let's get on the same page. You are addressing 9 year-olds. I'm addresses pre-adolescence, 9-12. There's a big difference. Secondly, I agree with your statement that most 9 year-olds are not ready for sex, that is sexual intercourse. I said that, in this age group it is uncommon. I do not know how to make it any clearer.

I don't have any strong opinion about the effect of sexual abuse on sexual identity and I don't think there has been much research on this issue. Now, I'm not addressing sexual preference. That's another issue. A child's sexual identity is formed about age 3 and is pretty well set by the time they are 5 or 6 years old. However, transgender children may well be confused for years or even throughout their lives.

Depending on your age, comparing yourself as a pre-adolescent with today's children may not be helpful in understanding sexual development of today's kids. There is a great deal of evidence that both girls and boys are entering puberty at a much earlier age than in the past, some girls as early as age 7 and boys at age 9. Also, children at this age are being exposed to sexual explicit material as never in the past. A 9 year old in the mid-twenty century would be very unlikely to see nude photos except in a National Geographic. Today, all a child has to do, is Google sex and they have a whole world of pornography at their finger tips.

 

[Christophera]

Does a child really know WHAT they are? I don't think so.

At what age? Children ages 5 to 8 are certainly aware of sexual differences and do have sexual feeling. However, ages 9 thru 12 are when these kids really become very interested in sex. This includes masturbation, pornography, experimentation with the same and/or opposite sex. It's really in these years, that kids discover their sexual attractions, opposite sex, same sex, or both. However, they may not admit it to themselves or others. These are the years when they need the help of adults, hopefully parents, to help them understand their sexual feelings without telling them how they should feel. I think most parents can't or won't do this.

You think it's "normal" for a 9-year-old to have sex? No, sorry but no these are children. They don't even know about sex or what they like yet. Masturbation/experimentation does not equal knowing anything at all.

I wonder how many people were molested (which happens a LOT more than we know and is reported), are sexually traumatized and completely confused, and that is the reason why some (if not a lot of them) are "gay" or "transgender." Seems like a state of utter confusion, if you ask me.

Most 9 to 12 year-old kids know a lot about sex. They know exactly what sexual intercourse is, oral sex, and even anal sex. How could they not. They are constantly exposed to it on TV and the Internet. They talk about in school and access porn on their computers and smartphones.

Sexual intercourse, oral sex, or anal sex is uncommon in 9 to 12 yearolds, less than 8%. I think the primary reason, sex isn't more common in kids of this age group is that they aren't socially developed enough to arrange it; that is they don't have the needed social skills.

There have been studies that suggest sexual abuse in young children does have an effect on sexual identity. However, the correlation is not strong. Sexual identity is as it has been in past. About 98% of all kids have no problem in identifying with their biological sex.

Archives of Sexual Behavior - Springer

1) How do you know how much each child knows about sex? Do you think it's appropriate that they know so much?
2) Is that what you really think? That is unbelievable. MOST healthy 9-year-old children are not going to have sex because they simply are not ready for it. Most 9-year-old girls would find it extremely yucky. I know that, because I was a 9-year-old girl at one time with friends. This is the age group that giggles if you mention the word "penis." They are CHILDREN and that is why they aren't arranging for sexual liaisons with other people. It is kind of creepy that you would even make such a suggestion. Unless a child is being sexually abused, they are not going to be sexually active at that age in most instances.
3) Yes, I suspect that the correlation would be extremely likely that if a little boy is sexually abused by another male that he will have some sexual identity issues, the same for a little girl being sexually abused by a female, especially if they happen to get some enjoyment out of it. Do you disagree?

There is a great deal of evidence that both girls and boys are entering puberty at a much earlier age than in the past, some girls as early as age 7 and boys at age 9. Also, children at this age are being exposed to sexual explicit material as never in the past. A 9 year old in the mid-twenty century would be very unlikely to see nude photos except in a National Geographic. Today, all a child has to do, is Google sex and they have a whole world of pornography at their finger tips.

And epigenetics does the rest.

 

[Derideo_Te]

I get tired of hearing about the differences between men and women.
Do you think women have core similarities that are consistent in all women? What about men?

I get tired of hearing about how all women like shoes. I don't.
I get tired of hearing how emotional women ar. I'm not.
I get tired of hearing about how women always want to talk about their feelings. I don't.

You? What about men?

This thread you created reminded me of a similar issue, very much on topic for this thread. But rather than dump the stigma needed to confront upon your thread, I made one specifically to address the serious issues related to the differences between men and women.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I made a post in another thread that fully deserved getting some heavy heaviness dumped upon it, in the hopes of creating a little compassion and understanding for the millions and millions of people that could benefit from an appropriate understanding of the unconscious mind where gender differences are primarily defined.

This Woman Is a Hero she shouldn t spend one day in prison Page 5 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So continue with your pleasant banter if you will, but realize our warm happy world IS NOT going to continue eternally UNLESS some intelligent, socially fearless, compassionate people begin to address this issue.

Can you "bottom line" this post and give me a quick summary of what you are getting at here?

Are you saying our gender predispositions are in the unconscious mind, developed from early childhood experiences (ala Freud?)

Given genetic gender inheritance, yes. Our unconscious mind, given the genes it has inherited, is unconsciously predisposed towards behavior based in perception and response. The response patterns are developed at early childhood and reside in the unconscious with all synaptic routes with epigenetics reinforcing the actual, supporting cellular development.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Your post ignores evidence posted in a link provided.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Crackpot conspiracies are not evidence.

 

[Derideo_Te]

At what age? Children ages 5 to 8 are certainly aware of sexual differences and do have sexual feeling. However, ages 9 thru 12 are when these kids really become very interested in sex. This includes masturbation, pornography, experimentation with the same and/or opposite sex. It's really in these years, that kids discover their sexual attractions, opposite sex, same sex, or both. However, they may not admit it to themselves or others. These are the years when they need the help of adults, hopefully parents, to help them understand their sexual feelings without telling them how they should feel. I think most parents can't or won't do this.

You think it's "normal" for a 9-year-old to have sex? No, sorry but no these are children. They don't even know about sex or what they like yet. Masturbation/experimentation does not equal knowing anything at all.

I wonder how many people were molested (which happens a LOT more than we know and is reported), are sexually traumatized and completely confused, and that is the reason why some (if not a lot of them) are "gay" or "transgender." Seems like a state of utter confusion, if you ask me.

Most 9 to 12 year-old kids know a lot about sex. They know exactly what sexual intercourse is, oral sex, and even anal sex. How could they not. They are constantly exposed to it on TV and the Internet. They talk about in school and access porn on their computers and smartphones.

Sexual intercourse, oral sex, or anal sex is uncommon in 9 to 12 yearolds, less than 8%. I think the primary reason, sex isn't more common in kids of this age group is that they aren't socially developed enough to arrange it; that is they don't have the needed social skills.

There have been studies that suggest sexual abuse in young children does have an effect on sexual identity. However, the correlation is not strong. Sexual identity is as it has been in past. About 98% of all kids have no problem in identifying with their biological sex.

Archives of Sexual Behavior - Springer

1) How do you know how much each child knows about sex? Do you think it's appropriate that they know so much?
2) Is that what you really think? That is unbelievable. MOST healthy 9-year-old children are not going to have sex because they simply are not ready for it. Most 9-year-old girls would find it extremely yucky. I know that, because I was a 9-year-old girl at one time with friends. This is the age group that giggles if you mention the word "penis." They are CHILDREN and that is why they aren't arranging for sexual liaisons with other people. It is kind of creepy that you would even make such a suggestion. Unless a child is being sexually abused, they are not going to be sexually active at that age in most instances.
3) Yes, I suspect that the correlation would be extremely likely that if a little boy is sexually abused by another male that he will have some sexual identity issues, the same for a little girl being sexually abused by a female, especially if they happen to get some enjoyment out of it. Do you disagree?

There is a great deal of evidence that both girls and boys are entering puberty at a much earlier age than in the past, some girls as early as age 7 and boys at age 9. Also, children at this age are being exposed to sexual explicit material as never in the past. A 9 year old in the mid-twenty century would be very unlikely to see nude photos except in a National Geographic. Today, all a child has to do, is Google sex and they have a whole world of pornography at their finger tips.

And epigenetics does the rest.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

 

[Christophera]

This thread you created reminded me of a similar issue, very much on topic for this thread. But rather than dump the stigma needed to confront upon your thread, I made one specifically to address the serious issues related to the differences between men and women.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I made a post in another thread that fully deserved getting some heavy heaviness dumped upon it, in the hopes of creating a little compassion and understanding for the millions and millions of people that could benefit from an appropriate understanding of the unconscious mind where gender differences are primarily defined.

This Woman Is a Hero she shouldn t spend one day in prison Page 5 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So continue with your pleasant banter if you will, but realize our warm happy world IS NOT going to continue eternally UNLESS some intelligent, socially fearless, compassionate people begin to address this issue.

Can you "bottom line" this post and give me a quick summary of what you are getting at here?

Are you saying our gender predispositions are in the unconscious mind, developed from early childhood experiences (ala Freud?)

Given genetic gender inheritance, yes. Our unconscious mind, given the genes it has inherited, is unconsciously predisposed towards behavior based in perception and response. The response patterns are developed at early childhood and reside in the unconscious with all synaptic routes with epigenetics reinforcing the actual, supporting cellular development.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Your post ignores evidence posted in a link provided.

Women Hypnosis Treason and Transferring More Power to Women In America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Crackpot conspiracies are not evidence.

Berelson and Steiner are exceptional researchers and their findings show that girls and women are more easily hypnotized than men and boys. See the text below C2.

You have produced only text promoting ignorance of factors that are used to conceal murder and treason. You cannot do better than that. This is only a portion of the evidence at the provided link.

 

[Christophera]

You think it's "normal" for a 9-year-old to have sex? No, sorry but no these are children. They don't even know about sex or what they like yet. Masturbation/experimentation does not equal knowing anything at all.

I wonder how many people were molested (which happens a LOT more than we know and is reported), are sexually traumatized and completely confused, and that is the reason why some (if not a lot of them) are "gay" or "transgender." Seems like a state of utter confusion, if you ask me.

Most 9 to 12 year-old kids know a lot about sex. They know exactly what sexual intercourse is, oral sex, and even anal sex. How could they not. They are constantly exposed to it on TV and the Internet. They talk about in school and access porn on their computers and smartphones.

Sexual intercourse, oral sex, or anal sex is uncommon in 9 to 12 yearolds, less than 8%. I think the primary reason, sex isn't more common in kids of this age group is that they aren't socially developed enough to arrange it; that is they don't have the needed social skills.

There have been studies that suggest sexual abuse in young children does have an effect on sexual identity. However, the correlation is not strong. Sexual identity is as it has been in past. About 98% of all kids have no problem in identifying with their biological sex.

Archives of Sexual Behavior - Springer

1) How do you know how much each child knows about sex? Do you think it's appropriate that they know so much?
2) Is that what you really think? That is unbelievable. MOST healthy 9-year-old children are not going to have sex because they simply are not ready for it. Most 9-year-old girls would find it extremely yucky. I know that, because I was a 9-year-old girl at one time with friends. This is the age group that giggles if you mention the word "penis." They are CHILDREN and that is why they aren't arranging for sexual liaisons with other people. It is kind of creepy that you would even make such a suggestion. Unless a child is being sexually abused, they are not going to be sexually active at that age in most instances.
3) Yes, I suspect that the correlation would be extremely likely that if a little boy is sexually abused by another male that he will have some sexual identity issues, the same for a little girl being sexually abused by a female, especially if they happen to get some enjoyment out of it. Do you disagree?

There is a great deal of evidence that both girls and boys are entering puberty at a much earlier age than in the past, some girls as early as age 7 and boys at age 9. Also, children at this age are being exposed to sexual explicit material as never in the past. A 9 year old in the mid-twenty century would be very unlikely to see nude photos except in a National Geographic. Today, all a child has to do, is Google sex and they have a whole world of pornography at their finger tips.

And epigenetics does the rest.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Considering you've produced no evidence of your own, this concludes all of your contentions of argument as erroneous.

Study Finds Epigenetics Not Genetics Underlies Homosexuality

"Epi-marks constitute an extra layer of information attached to our genes' backbones that regulates their expression. While genes hold the instructions, epi-marks direct how those instructions are carried out - when, where and how much a gene is expressed during development. Epi-marks are usually produced anew each generation, but recent evidence demonstrates that they sometimes carry over between generations and thus can contribute to similarity among relatives, resembling the effect of shared genes.

Sex-specific epi-marks produced in early fetal development protect each sex from the substantial natural variation in testosterone that occurs during later fetal development. Sex-specific epi-marks stop girl fetuses from being masculinized when they experience atypically high testosterone, and vice versa for boy fetuses. Different epi-marks protect different sex-specific traits from being masculinized or feminized – some affect the genitals, others sexual identity, and yet others affect sexual partner preference. However, when these epi-marks are transmitted across generations from fathers to daughters or mothers to sons, they may cause reversed effects, such as the feminization of some traits in sons, such as sexual preference, and similarly a partial masculinization of daughters.
Epi-marks constitute an extra layer of information attached to our genes' backbones that regulates their expression. While genes hold the instructions, epi-marks direct how those instructions are carried out - when, where and how much a gene is expressed during development. Epi-marks are usually produced anew each generation, but recent evidence demonstrates that they sometimes carry over between generations and thus can contribute to similarity among relatives, resembling the effect of shared genes."

 

[Derideo_Te]

Most 9 to 12 year-old kids know a lot about sex. They know exactly what sexual intercourse is, oral sex, and even anal sex. How could they not. They are constantly exposed to it on TV and the Internet. They talk about in school and access porn on their computers and smartphones.

Sexual intercourse, oral sex, or anal sex is uncommon in 9 to 12 yearolds, less than 8%. I think the primary reason, sex isn't more common in kids of this age group is that they aren't socially developed enough to arrange it; that is they don't have the needed social skills.

There have been studies that suggest sexual abuse in young children does have an effect on sexual identity. However, the correlation is not strong. Sexual identity is as it has been in past. About 98% of all kids have no problem in identifying with their biological sex.

Archives of Sexual Behavior - Springer

1) How do you know how much each child knows about sex? Do you think it's appropriate that they know so much?
2) Is that what you really think? That is unbelievable. MOST healthy 9-year-old children are not going to have sex because they simply are not ready for it. Most 9-year-old girls would find it extremely yucky. I know that, because I was a 9-year-old girl at one time with friends. This is the age group that giggles if you mention the word "penis." They are CHILDREN and that is why they aren't arranging for sexual liaisons with other people. It is kind of creepy that you would even make such a suggestion. Unless a child is being sexually abused, they are not going to be sexually active at that age in most instances.
3) Yes, I suspect that the correlation would be extremely likely that if a little boy is sexually abused by another male that he will have some sexual identity issues, the same for a little girl being sexually abused by a female, especially if they happen to get some enjoyment out of it. Do you disagree?

There is a great deal of evidence that both girls and boys are entering puberty at a much earlier age than in the past, some girls as early as age 7 and boys at age 9. Also, children at this age are being exposed to sexual explicit material as never in the past. A 9 year old in the mid-twenty century would be very unlikely to see nude photos except in a National Geographic. Today, all a child has to do, is Google sex and they have a whole world of pornography at their finger tips.

And epigenetics does the rest.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Considering you've produced no evidence of your own, this concludes all of your contentions of argument as erroneous.

Study Finds Epigenetics Not Genetics Underlies Homosexuality

"Epi-marks constitute an extra layer of information attached to our genes' backbones that regulates their expression. While genes hold the instructions, epi-marks direct how those instructions are carried out - when, where and how much a gene is expressed during development. Epi-marks are usually produced anew each generation, but recent evidence demonstrates that they sometimes carry over between generations and thus can contribute to similarity among relatives, resembling the effect of shared genes.

Sex-specific epi-marks produced in early fetal development protect each sex from the substantial natural variation in testosterone that occurs during later fetal development. Sex-specific epi-marks stop girl fetuses from being masculinized when they experience atypically high testosterone, and vice versa for boy fetuses. Different epi-marks protect different sex-specific traits from being masculinized or feminized – some affect the genitals, others sexual identity, and yet others affect sexual partner preference. However, when these epi-marks are transmitted across generations from fathers to daughters or mothers to sons, they may cause reversed effects, such as the feminization of some traits in sons, such as sexual preference, and similarly a partial masculinization of daughters.
Epi-marks constitute an extra layer of information attached to our genes' backbones that regulates their expression. While genes hold the instructions, epi-marks direct how those instructions are carried out - when, where and how much a gene is expressed during development. Epi-marks are usually produced anew each generation, but recent evidence demonstrates that they sometimes carry over between generations and thus can contribute to similarity among relatives, resembling the effect of shared genes."

That study just proved me right and you wrong in your fallacious claims regarding epigenetics in posts #130 and #134 above.

 

[Christophera]

You

1) How do you know how much each child knows about sex? Do you think it's appropriate that they know so much?
2) Is that what you really think? That is unbelievable. MOST healthy 9-year-old children are not going to have sex because they simply are not ready for it. Most 9-year-old girls would find it extremely yucky. I know that, because I was a 9-year-old girl at one time with friends. This is the age group that giggles if you mention the word "penis." They are CHILDREN and that is why they aren't arranging for sexual liaisons with other people. It is kind of creepy that you would even make such a suggestion. Unless a child is being sexually abused, they are not going to be sexually active at that age in most instances.
3) Yes, I suspect that the correlation would be extremely likely that if a little boy is sexually abused by another male that he will have some sexual identity issues, the same for a little girl being sexually abused by a female, especially if they happen to get some enjoyment out of it. Do you disagree?

There is a great deal of evidence that both girls and boys are entering puberty at a much earlier age than in the past, some girls as early as age 7 and boys at age 9. Also, children at this age are being exposed to sexual explicit material as never in the past. A 9 year old in the mid-twenty century would be very unlikely to see nude photos except in a National Geographic. Today, all a child has to do, is Google sex and they have a whole world of pornography at their finger tips.

And epigenetics does the rest.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Considering you've produced no evidence of your own, this concludes all of your contentions of argument as erroneous.

Study Finds Epigenetics Not Genetics Underlies Homosexuality

"Epi-marks constitute an extra layer of information attached to our genes' backbones that regulates their expression. While genes hold the instructions, epi-marks direct how those instructions are carried out - when, where and how much a gene is expressed during development. Epi-marks are usually produced anew each generation, but recent evidence demonstrates that they sometimes carry over between generations and thus can contribute to similarity among relatives, resembling the effect of shared genes.

Sex-specific epi-marks produced in early fetal development protect each sex from the substantial natural variation in testosterone that occurs during later fetal development. Sex-specific epi-marks stop girl fetuses from being masculinized when they experience atypically high testosterone, and vice versa for boy fetuses. Different epi-marks protect different sex-specific traits from being masculinized or feminized – some affect the genitals, others sexual identity, and yet others affect sexual partner preference. However, when these epi-marks are transmitted across generations from fathers to daughters or mothers to sons, they may cause reversed effects, such as the feminization of some traits in sons, such as sexual preference, and similarly a partial masculinization of daughters.
Epi-marks constitute an extra layer of information attached to our genes' backbones that regulates their expression. While genes hold the instructions, epi-marks direct how those instructions are carried out - when, where and how much a gene is expressed during development. Epi-marks are usually produced anew each generation, but recent evidence demonstrates that they sometimes carry over between generations and thus can contribute to similarity among relatives, resembling the effect of shared genes."

That study just proved me right and you wrong in your fallacious claims regarding epigenetics in posts #130 and #134 above.

Just proved you cannot make a competent reply. You have to quote the specific text and explain why you are right.

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