Manmade Computer Climate Models That Spell Doom and Gloom a Century From Now

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  1. Weatherman2020
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    Weather fronts are a basic phrase we hear used in every weather forecast. Per Wiki: "A weather front is a boundary separating two masses of air of different densities, and is the principal cause of meteorological phenomena. In surface weather analyses, fronts are depicted using various colored triangles and half-circles, depending on the type of front. The air masses separated by a front usually differ in temperature and humidity."

    We have all seen the weather maps, blue and redlines representing weather fronts.
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    80 years ago mankind had no idea that this basic natural event even existed. There was no such thing as a weather front prior to 1941. Zero knowledge. And I'm not even going to get into all of other variables of climate and solar influences that we are just starting to learn about in the last few decades. This is just about one aspect that we now know is a common basic event in nature.

    The point is, we are like ants crawling out of the hole for the first time. We are infants in our knowledge of the climate engines of nature. We know very, very little how things work. Yeah, we have basic theories, but we do not KNOW all of the variables involved. That is why your 3 day weather forecast rarely hits what actually occurs 3 days from now. It will be close, but rarely exact.

    So for some computer geek to write lines of code to mimic how climate works when we know so little is futile. Especially when that person has financial incentives to skew how the model works.
     
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    So, we shouldn't even try... because....
     
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    Yeah, let's destroy the global economy because of a wild ass guess.
     
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    Did you really read what he wrote?

    He never said don't try at all, he was talking about how little we know and that the science of weather forecasting is still in the early stages.

    Daily Satellite coverage of weather events came on in the mid 1960s, but not for regional coverage until the 1970's.

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    Yes, I read what he wrote thank you very much.

    I also read this bit "So for some computer geek to write lines of code to mimic how climate works when we know so little is futile. Especially when that person has financial incentives to skew how the model works."

    It's not futile at all. He's basically saying don't try because we're not going to get it perfect.

    Problem is, if you don't try now, you won't progress. It's a fucking idiotic statement to make.
     
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    We still don't know dick about the climate.... anyone who thinks otherwise is a sucker.
     
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    The problem comes when idiots try to make predictions and tell us all that we must be poor and live in caves to keep the planet alive when they do not have the facts to support that assessment.

    Its the political Assessment that is the problem.. Your telling us that someone doing VoDo is to be trusted and followed..
     
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    Research that can't be verifiable is a complete waste of time. There is a reason why good thinkers keep in mind if this particular hypothesis is testable to continue the research or change the hypothesis if possible or drop it completely.

    Surely you knew this?
     
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    What's the point in making a hypothesis?

    If you know everything already, you don't need to make a hypothesis.

    We can't predict the weather 100% accurately, but we can predict it accurately enough to tell people what might happen.

    Some people take weather forecasts as solid, others realize the limitations. Being able to understand this is important in effectively utilizing this information.

    Simply said, Science would have got nowhere had everyone waited until they were 100% sure of something before testing it.
     
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    How about we increase our understanding of climate by a couple orders of magnitude before we start bankrupting whole economies. That is the bottom line.
     
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