Liberals....Come To The Marketplace

[PoliticalChic]

1. There is the axiom 'In the marketplace of ideas, the Right eats the Left's lunch.'


Coulter put it this way:
"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"




2. If, as many of us on the Right do, you applaud logic and education as the basis of your worldview, then you should be able to support said views.
You can't: you support them based on repetition and the fear of retribution if you question them.

I can pose several questions that show the weaknesses of the Left's doctrines, and policies, and for which Leftist drones will have no way to dispute same.
But...unable to dispute the Right's arguments, the Left has a very effective method of side-stepping the issues.......they lie.

In order to hide the flaws in the Left's dogma, a number of fallacies are published and advanced. Several of the most blatant lies are as follows:

a. It was the group known today as Liberals founded the country and produced the Constitution

b. While the Republican Party was founded to fight slavery and for civil rights, at some point they reversed that perspective and embraced segregation. Oh...and the Democrats gave women the right to vote.

c. While communists are Leftist, like Liberals, the Nazis are Rightwing and far worse than communists.

d. America is such a racist and xenophopic nation that special classes of individuals must be created protected by government with special rights.

e. There is a 'Far Right' in this country that that works against traditional American values.
Oh....and the corollary to that, that there are Rightwing wealthy that are buying our government....and there there is some eternal group known as 'the rich.'



None of the above is based on truth, but control of the schools and the media by the Left has allowed many to be convinced that these are the facts.
They aren't.




The founding documents of the nation, the Declaration of Independence, and the United States Constitution, memorialize a nation built on specific principles, such as individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

The Left opposes all three of these founding principles.

By 'the Left,' I mean all six of these:
Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism.


Specifics examples to follow......

At it's core, leftism advances the idea that society should be ruled by a small elite with unlimited power. Of course, the average leftist will dispute this, but not logically.

Anyone who has bothered to study history knows power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. History tells us this kind of 'government' arrangement leads to massive death, destruction, and terrible suffering. Again leftists not knowing anything of history, will dispute this and again not logically.

" ... there’s a tendency among bureaucrats, politicians, academics, and other members of the New Class to convince the people to hand over the major decisions of their lives to the “experts.” These experts aren’t all in the government, but they all collude with government to convince people that the experts have all the answers and that the people need to hand the reins over to them. They will tell us what to eat, what to drive, what to think.

It’s an approach that puts politics before economics. Because it is an attempt to politicize peoples’ lives.”
Nazis: Still Socialists, by Jonah Goldberg, National Review

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. There is the axiom 'In the marketplace of ideas, the Right eats the Left's lunch.'


...

The above from the poster who no longer dares to debate me.

Is that a priceless gem of funny or not? lol

 

[PoliticalChic]

What a nasty and uncivilized individual you're Politicalchick. Fighting the fight to send us all back to the stone age. Why? So the rich can have it all and there's no chance for anyone else. This is called greed. Don't you dare step out of line you poor nasty peon said Political chick!

How the hell can you sleep at night?

You are such a complete and total idiot. Can you be real?

That's the poster child for government schooling.

 

[Moonglow]

What a nasty and uncivilized individual you're Politicalchick. Fighting the fight to send us all back to the stone age. Why? So the rich can have it all and there's no chance for anyone else. This is called greed. Don't you dare step out of line you poor nasty peon said Political chick!

How the hell can you sleep at night?

.... the Left has a very effective method of side-stepping the issues.......they lie.

In order to hide the flaws in the Left's dogma, a number of fallacies are published and advanced. Several of the most blatant lies are as follows:

a. It was the group known today as Liberals founded the country and produced the Constitution

b. While the Republican Party was founded to fight slavery and for civil rights, at some point they reversed that perspective and embraced segregation. Oh...and the Democrats gave women the right to vote.

c. While communists are Leftist, like Liberals, the Nazis are Rightwing and far worse than communists.

d. America is such a racist and xenophopic nation that special classes of individuals must be created protected by government with special rights.

e. There is a 'Far Right' in this country that that works against traditional American values.
Oh....and the corollary to that, that there are Rightwing wealthy that are buying our government....and there there is some eternal group known as 'the rich.'



None of the above is based on truth, but control of the schools and the media by the Left has allowed many to be convinced that these are the facts.
They aren't.

Now that Mother Goose has given us the true meaning of a word she doesn't understand we can break for a commercial from the Heritage Foundation, where they put the fetism into religion...

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. There is the axiom 'In the marketplace of ideas, the Right eats the Left's lunch.'


Coulter put it this way:
"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"




2. If, as many of us on the Right do, you applaud logic and education as the basis of your worldview, then you should be able to support said views.
You can't: you support them based on repetition and the fear of retribution if you question them.

I can pose several questions that show the weaknesses of the Left's doctrines, and policies, and for which Leftist drones will have no way to dispute same.
But...unable to dispute the Right's arguments, the Left has a very effective method of side-stepping the issues.......they lie.

In order to hide the flaws in the Left's dogma, a number of fallacies are published and advanced. Several of the most blatant lies are as follows:

a. It was the group known today as Liberals founded the country and produced the Constitution

b. While the Republican Party was founded to fight slavery and for civil rights, at some point they reversed that perspective and embraced segregation. Oh...and the Democrats gave women the right to vote.

c. While communists are Leftist, like Liberals, the Nazis are Rightwing and far worse than communists.

d. America is such a racist and xenophopic nation that special classes of individuals must be created protected by government with special rights.

e. There is a 'Far Right' in this country that that works against traditional American values.
Oh....and the corollary to that, that there are Rightwing wealthy that are buying our government....and there there is some eternal group known as 'the rich.'



None of the above is based on truth, but control of the schools and the media by the Left has allowed many to be convinced that these are the facts.
They aren't.




The founding documents of the nation, the Declaration of Independence, and the United States Constitution, memorialize a nation built on specific principles, such as individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

The Left opposes all three of these founding principles.

By 'the Left,' I mean all six of these:
Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism.


Specifics examples to follow......

Liberals embrace hearing other ideas. You're talking about leftists.

Wrong.

I'm speaking, correctly, of what are called Liberals today.

Hmm, that looks really familiar, I might have that. Not saying I've ever cracked it, I open Encyplopedias more than anything else.

I really am not going to get into mis-categorizing liberals because leftists have hijacked the Democrat party.

That's a personal decision.

When leftists call themselves "liberal", it's cultural mis-appropriation, IMO.

If you mean classical liberals, that's an entirely different entity.

Modern Liberals are the what was called the Socialist Party.....the name changed by communist John Dewey.

"...[John] Dewey arguably did more than any other reformer to repackage progressive social theory in a way that obscured just how radically its principles departed from those of the American founding. Like Ely and many of his fellow progressive academics, Dewey initially embraced the term “socialism” to describe his social theory.

Only after realizing how damaging the name was to the socialist cause did he, like other progressives, begin to avoid it. In the early 1930s, accordingly, Dewey begged the Socialist party, of which he was a longtime member, to change its name.

“The greatest handicap from which special measures favored by the Socialists suffer,” Dewey declared, “is that they are advanced by the Socialist party as Socialism. The prejudice against the name may be a regrettable prejudice but its influence is so powerful that it is much more reasonable to imagine all but the most dogmatic Socialists joining a new party than to imagine any considerable part of the American people going over to them.” Dewey’s influential 1935 tract, Liberalism and Social Action, should be read in the light of this." The Refounding of America

 

[Marion Morrison]

1. There is the axiom 'In the marketplace of ideas, the Right eats the Left's lunch.'


...

The above from the poster who no longer dares to debate me.

Is that a priceless gem of funny or not? lol

Debating you is like stomping around in a sidewalk mudpuddle on a hot summer day, and just as deep. Eventually you just evaporate.

 

[Moonglow]

1. There is the axiom 'In the marketplace of ideas, the Right eats the Left's lunch.'


Coulter put it this way:
"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"




2. If, as many of us on the Right do, you applaud logic and education as the basis of your worldview, then you should be able to support said views.
You can't: you support them based on repetition and the fear of retribution if you question them.

I can pose several questions that show the weaknesses of the Left's doctrines, and policies, and for which Leftist drones will have no way to dispute same.
But...unable to dispute the Right's arguments, the Left has a very effective method of side-stepping the issues.......they lie.

In order to hide the flaws in the Left's dogma, a number of fallacies are published and advanced. Several of the most blatant lies are as follows:

a. It was the group known today as Liberals founded the country and produced the Constitution

b. While the Republican Party was founded to fight slavery and for civil rights, at some point they reversed that perspective and embraced segregation. Oh...and the Democrats gave women the right to vote.

c. While communists are Leftist, like Liberals, the Nazis are Rightwing and far worse than communists.

d. America is such a racist and xenophopic nation that special classes of individuals must be created protected by government with special rights.

e. There is a 'Far Right' in this country that that works against traditional American values.
Oh....and the corollary to that, that there are Rightwing wealthy that are buying our government....and there there is some eternal group known as 'the rich.'



None of the above is based on truth, but control of the schools and the media by the Left has allowed many to be convinced that these are the facts.
They aren't.




The founding documents of the nation, the Declaration of Independence, and the United States Constitution, memorialize a nation built on specific principles, such as individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

The Left opposes all three of these founding principles.

By 'the Left,' I mean all six of these:
Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism.


Specifics examples to follow......

Liberals embrace hearing other ideas. You're talking about leftists.

Wrong.

I'm speaking, correctly, of what are called Liberals today.

Hmm, that looks really familiar, I might have that. Not saying I've ever cracked it, I open Encyplopedias more than anything else.

I really am not going to get into mis-categorizing liberals because leftists have hijacked the Democrat party.

That's a personal decision.

When leftists call themselves "liberal", it's cultural mis-appropriation, IMO.

If you mean classical liberals, that's an entirely different entity.

Modern Liberals are the what was called the Socialist Party.....the name changed by communist John Dewey.

"...[John] Dewey arguably did more than any other reformer to repackage progressive social theory in a way that obscured just how radically its principles departed from those of the American founding. Like Ely and many of his fellow progressive academics, Dewey initially embraced the term “socialism” to describe his social theory.

Only after realizing how damaging the name was to the socialist cause did he, like other progressives, begin to avoid it. In the early 1930s, accordingly, Dewey begged the Socialist party, of which he was a longtime member, to change its name.

“The greatest handicap from which special measures favored by the Socialists suffer,” Dewey declared, “is that they are advanced by the Socialist party as Socialism. The prejudice against the name may be a regrettable prejudice but its influence is so powerful that it is much more reasonable to imagine all but the most dogmatic Socialists joining a new party than to imagine any considerable part of the American people going over to them.” Dewey’s influential 1935 tract, Liberalism and Social Action, should be read in the light of this." The Refounding of America

If you look at how the communist hate liberals you could see the folly of your ignorance, but I doubt seriously you are smart enough to do that...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Another rhetorical freak that doesn't know the true meaning of the word "liberal" and misuses it to make a living....and the stupid that follow them, and believe in every word they say only reiterates the stupid displayed...

I described you correctly in the OP, thus:

But...unable to dispute the Right's arguments, the Left has a very effective method of side-stepping the issues.......they lie.


I know it's gilding the lily to prove you a liar.....you do that so well all by yourself...but....I challenged you to find any of my quotes that prove your lies

Now....which of your lies are you here to retract and apologize for?


1. "...all the brown people you discriminate against..."


2. "...your hate of brown people is well noted..."


3. "....you edited your original OP to exclude your use of brown people..."

Still waiting, you lying low-life.

Inauguration 'Brown-Out'???





And...another of your lies:

4. "I know, you are such a bitch when it comes to truth and honesty in positioning yourself,, and the demeaning manner you pretend to be white..."
The Danger of Democrats....



Or this diaphanous one?

5. Policlick likes coal, and black lung, and smog polluted skylines,

Green Energy Red In The Face



or this:


6. She is from North Korea...

Busted: Transgender Ideology



7. "She's not even a citizen, just another train tramp from out of the nation.."

A Particularly Astute Discussion of America's Demise


Still can't back up any of those?


Then you can return to the sewer where you belong, gnome.

 

[Moonglow]

Another rhetorical freak that doesn't know the true meaning of the word "liberal" and misuses it to make a living....and the stupid that follow them, and believe in every word they say only reiterates the stupid displayed...

I described you correctly in the OP, thus:

But...unable to dispute the Right's arguments, the Left has a very effective method of side-stepping the issues.......they lie.


I know it's gilding the lily to prove you a liar.....you do that so well all by yourself...but....I challenged you to find any of my quotes that prove your lies

Now....which of your lies are you here to retract and apologize for?


1. "...all the brown people you discriminate against..."


2. "...your hate of brown people is well noted..."


3. "....you edited your original OP to exclude your use of brown people..."

Still waiting, you lying low-life.

Inauguration 'Brown-Out'???





And...another of your lies:

4. "I know, you are such a bitch when it comes to truth and honesty in positioning yourself,, and the demeaning manner you pretend to be white..."
The Danger of Democrats....



Or this diaphanous one?

5. Policlick likes coal, and black lung, and smog polluted skylines,

Green Energy Red In The Face



or this:


6. She is from North Korea...

Busted: Transgender Ideology



7. "She's not even a citizen, just another train tramp from out of the nation.."

A Particularly Astute Discussion of America's Demise


Still can't back up any of those?


Then you can return to the sewer where you belong, gnome.

Damn if describing you correctly don't piss you off so bad you try to ignore your master..

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. OK....so you're a reliable Democrat voter....

Have you thought through what that means.....and why it has become an offshoot of those six.... Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism.


The Constitution is very specific about the most basic and fundamental characteristic of American freedom: Free Speech.

Here is the actual mandate:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



But, under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech under penalty of loss of tax benefits.

Not a single Democrat/Liberal has ever been able to answer this question:
What possible compelling government interest could this, restricting the free speech of religious folks, represent????




a. " Donald Trump: As President, I’ll Reverse the Law That Prevents Churches from Endorsing Candidates
Trump said near the end of his speech that he would rescind the IRS rule preventing churches from endorsing candidates.

That takes you and it makes you less powerful than a man or woman walking up and down the street. You actually have less power.”

And yet if you look at it, I was talking to someone, we probably have 250 million, maybe even more, in terms of people, so we have more Christians… than we have men or women in our country and we don’t have a lobby because they’re afraid to have a lobby because they don’t want to lose their tax status.

So I am going to work like hell to get rid of that prohibition and we’re going to have the strongest Christian lobby and it’s going to happen. This took place during the presidency of Lyndon Johnson and it has had a terrible chilling effect."
Donald Trump: As President, I’ll Reverse the Law That Prevents Churches from Endorsing Candidates





What possible compelling government interest could this, restricting the free speech of religious folks, represent????
Any answer?

 

[Moonglow]

Nope, voted for Trump, Reagan, Bush sr....So you're right out...as usual it's of no entertainment value to you unless you increase the stupid factor...

 

[Marion Morrison]

Nope, voted for Trump, Reagan, Bush sr....So you're right out...as usual it's of no entertainment value to you unless you increase the stupid factor...

Now now, PC usually has good threads, she copied/pasting the wrong excerpts this time, though.

A little creative word editing could make it correct.

 

[Moonglow]

Nope, voted for Trump, Reagan, Bush sr....So you're right out...as usual it's of no entertainment value to you unless you increase the stupid factor...

Now now, PC usually has good threads, she copied/pasting the wrong excerpts this time, though.

A little creative word editing could make it correct.

She is a bot you know?

 

[MPS777]

In reply to the OP:

I think you’re too caught up in the simplistic and relativistic one-dimensional left-right paradigm. I think there’s at least 2 dimensions to the political spectrum (think a cartesian coordinate plane). Discussion of ideas is further muddied by some people’s personal definitions, like that of socialism. I’ve heard many people say that Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare are socialism/Marxism; and yet our current “right wing” president of the United States fully supports those programs. Does that make Donald Trump a socialist/Marxist? Or how about this, viewing the US constitution’s general welfare clause as a spending power in and of itself is considered by many to be a progressive idea. Donald Trump and most Republicans support this progressive interpretation of the general welfare clause, so does that make most Republicans progressives? It’s easy to wind up in the weeds of grey area not knowing where the “left” ends and the “right” begins; what I’ve noticed is that people tend to place an arbitrary dividing line in their minds, which differ from everyone else around them.

Here’s another one, I’ve heard people on “the right” speak admirably of present day Russia and Vladimir Putin because they believe Russia has abandoned communism and embraced freedom, democracy and capitalism. These same people would say that American Democrats who support single payer health care are “communists”. And yet Russia to this very day has a constitutionally defined right for all Russians to receive free healthcare. Does this mean that Vladimir Putin and Russia are just as “communist” as the aforementioned Democrats? There’s so much grey area in the world of politics, that I try to avoid the terms left/right liberal/conservative. However, another view of politics is that the “poles” have individualism on one end, and “collectivism” on the other. This I assume is how Nazis and Communists are lumped together. Fair enough, but this view when it comes right down to it says that it’s libertarians vs everyone else; and if that’s the case, then by looking at the governing systems of the world, it would appear that libertarianism has lost pretty badly. I’m not going to say that is necessarily how it should be, but I think the “collectivists” ability to acquire larger amounts of power, and roll over their enemies has a lot to do with it.

>>>America is such a racist and xenophopic nation that special classes of individuals must be created protected by government with special rights.

The “protected classes” were actually created on a fairly bipartisan basis during the 1960s Civil Rights legislation to destroy Jim Crow policies. So these classes were created because of very real racism and discrimination.

 

[RealDave]

1. There is the axiom 'In the marketplace of ideas, the Right eats the Left's lunch.'


Coulter put it this way:
"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"




2. If, as many of us on the Right do, you applaud logic and education as the basis of your worldview, then you should be able to support said views.
You can't: you support them based on repetition and the fear of retribution if you question them.

I can pose several questions that show the weaknesses of the Left's doctrines, and policies, and for which Leftist drones will have no way to dispute same.
But...unable to dispute the Right's arguments, the Left has a very effective method of side-stepping the issues.......they lie.

In order to hide the flaws in the Left's dogma, a number of fallacies are published and advanced. Several of the most blatant lies are as follows:

a. It was the group known today as Liberals founded the country and produced the Constitution

b. While the Republican Party was founded to fight slavery and for civil rights, at some point they reversed that perspective and embraced segregation. Oh...and the Democrats gave women the right to vote.

c. While communists are Leftist, like Liberals, the Nazis are Rightwing and far worse than communists.

d. America is such a racist and xenophopic nation that special classes of individuals must be created protected by government with special rights.

e. There is a 'Far Right' in this country that that works against traditional American values.
Oh....and the corollary to that, that there are Rightwing wealthy that are buying our government....and there there is some eternal group known as 'the rich.'



None of the above is based on truth, but control of the schools and the media by the Left has allowed many to be convinced that these are the facts.
They aren't.




The founding documents of the nation, the Declaration of Independence, and the United States Constitution, memorialize a nation built on specific principles, such as individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

The Left opposes all three of these founding principles.

By 'the Left,' I mean all six of these:
Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism.


Specifics examples to follow......

Wow, laws against discrimination are "special rights"?

Maybe in your racist, bigoted little world.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. There is the axiom 'In the marketplace of ideas, the Right eats the Left's lunch.'


Coulter put it this way:
"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"




2. If, as many of us on the Right do, you applaud logic and education as the basis of your worldview, then you should be able to support said views.
You can't: you support them based on repetition and the fear of retribution if you question them.

I can pose several questions that show the weaknesses of the Left's doctrines, and policies, and for which Leftist drones will have no way to dispute same.
But...unable to dispute the Right's arguments, the Left has a very effective method of side-stepping the issues.......they lie.

In order to hide the flaws in the Left's dogma, a number of fallacies are published and advanced. Several of the most blatant lies are as follows:

a. It was the group known today as Liberals founded the country and produced the Constitution

b. While the Republican Party was founded to fight slavery and for civil rights, at some point they reversed that perspective and embraced segregation. Oh...and the Democrats gave women the right to vote.

c. While communists are Leftist, like Liberals, the Nazis are Rightwing and far worse than communists.

d. America is such a racist and xenophopic nation that special classes of individuals must be created protected by government with special rights.

e. There is a 'Far Right' in this country that that works against traditional American values.
Oh....and the corollary to that, that there are Rightwing wealthy that are buying our government....and there there is some eternal group known as 'the rich.'



None of the above is based on truth, but control of the schools and the media by the Left has allowed many to be convinced that these are the facts.
They aren't.




The founding documents of the nation, the Declaration of Independence, and the United States Constitution, memorialize a nation built on specific principles, such as individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

The Left opposes all three of these founding principles.

By 'the Left,' I mean all six of these:
Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism.


Specifics examples to follow......

Wow, laws against discrimination are "special rights"?

Maybe in your racist, bigoted little world.

What is 'discrimination,' RealDumb?

 

[PoliticalChic]

In reply to the OP:

I think you’re too caught up in the simplistic and relativistic one-dimensional left-right paradigm. I think there’s at least 2 dimensions to the political spectrum (think a cartesian coordinate plane). Discussion of ideas is further muddied by some people’s personal definitions, like that of socialism. I’ve heard many people say that Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare are socialism/Marxism; and yet our current “right wing” president of the United States fully supports those programs. Does that make Donald Trump a socialist/Marxist? Or how about this, viewing the US constitution’s general welfare clause as a spending power in and of itself is considered by many to be a progressive idea. Donald Trump and most Republicans support this progressive interpretation of the general welfare clause, so does that make most Republicans progressives? It’s easy to wind up in the weeds of grey area not knowing where the “left” ends and the “right” begins; what I’ve noticed is that people tend to place an arbitrary dividing line in their minds, which differ from everyone else around them.

Here’s another one, I’ve heard people on “the right” speak admirably of present day Russia and Vladimir Putin because they believe Russia has abandoned communism and embraced freedom, democracy and capitalism. These same people would say that American Democrats who support single payer health care are “communists”. And yet Russia to this very day has a constitutionally defined right for all Russians to receive free healthcare. Does this mean that Vladimir Putin and Russia are just as “communist” as the aforementioned Democrats? There’s so much grey area in the world of politics, that I try to avoid the terms left/right liberal/conservative. However, another view of politics is that the “poles” have individualism on one end, and “collectivism” on the other. This I assume is how Nazis and Communists are lumped together. Fair enough, but this view when it comes right down to it says that it’s libertarians vs everyone else; and if that’s the case, then by looking at the governing systems of the world, it would appear that libertarianism has lost pretty badly. I’m not going to say that is necessarily how it should be, but I think the “collectivists” ability to acquire larger amounts of power, and roll over their enemies has a lot to do with it.

>>>America is such a racist and xenophopic nation that special classes of individuals must be created protected by government with special rights.

The “protected classes” were actually created on a fairly bipartisan basis during the 1960s Civil Rights legislation to destroy Jim Crow policies. So these classes were created because of very real racism and discrimination.

...unable to dispute the Right's arguments, the Left has a very effective method of side-stepping the issues.......they lie.

In order to hide the flaws in the Left's dogma, a number of fallacies are published and advanced. Several of the most blatant lies are as follows:

a. It was the group known today as Liberals founded the country and produced the Constitution

b. While the Republican Party was founded to fight slavery and for civil rights, at some point they reversed that perspective and embraced segregation. Oh...and the Democrat gave women the right to vote.

c. While communists are Leftist, like Liberals, the Nazis are Rightwing and far worse than communists.

d. America is such a racist and xenophopic nation that special classes of individuals must be created protected by government with special rights.

e. There is a 'Far Right' in this country that that works against traditional American values.
Oh....and the corollary to that, that there are Rightwing wealthy that are buying our government....and there there is some eternal group known as 'the rich.'



None of the above is based on truth, but control of the schools and the media by the Left has allowed many to be convinced that these are the facts.
They aren't.

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. OK....so you're a reliable Democrat voter....

Have you thought through what that means.....and why it has become an offshoot of those six.... Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism.....or worse: IslamoFascism


Try to explain this Democrat policy:
Democrats are for the Iran Nuclear Weapons Treaty.


Obama used the binary argument....either let Iran have nuclear weapons, or we must go to war.
I'm surprised that you didn't see through it.


a. Here's how a real President handled a similar situation:
"Reagan was made from far sterner stuff than was his Soviet counterpart. His genial grin and wise-cracking demeanor concealed a spine of steel when push came to shove.

Yet at their next meeting in Reykjavik in 1986, where Gorbachev would not budge on the "Star Wars" question, Reagan was decisive and unforgiving. He recalls in An American Life how he stood up from the table to proclaim that the meeting was over. Then he turned to his Secretary of State: "Let's go, George. We're leaving." Like any good diplomat, Shultz was crushed by so much roughness, but Reagan was completely unfazed. Later on, he explained: "I went to Reykjavik determined that everything was negotiable except two things, our freedom and our future."
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The 'Amazing and Mysterious Life' of Ronald Reagan


Obama bent over and grabbed his ankles.



b. And here's the fact that Obama hid from you:
The sanctions were strangling them.

This from the Left-leaning Brookings Institute...

"....the sanctions against Iran — and the context for them internationally and within Iran — have changed dramatically. Since 2010, the sanctions’ impact on Iran has been severe: its oil exports and revenues plummeted; the value of its currency eroded; trade disruptions shuttered businesses and exacerbated inflation. Quietly, a backlash emerged among Iran’s political elites against the country’s creeping isolation, and the June 2013 presidential election ushered in a moderate new president and the beginnings of a diplomatic breakthrough on the nuclear crisis — achievements that most observers attribute to the impact of sanctions."
Why “Iran Style” Sanctions Worked Against Tehran (And Why They Might Not Succeed with Moscow)



Soooo......based on the facts above.....how do you explain the war criminal, Obama, insisting that the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism have nuclear weapons....and become the North Korea of the Middle East?



The silence is deafening.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nope, voted for Trump, Reagan, Bush sr....So you're right out...as usual it's of no entertainment value to you unless you increase the stupid factor...

Now now, PC usually has good threads, she copied/pasting the wrong excerpts this time, though.

A little creative word editing could make it correct.

Slow down, there.

I'm never wrong.

Specify to what you are referring here: "...she copied/pasting the wrong excerpts this time, though."

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nope, voted for Trump, Reagan, Bush sr....So you're right out...as usual it's of no entertainment value to you unless you increase the stupid factor...

Now now, PC usually has good threads, she copied/pasting the wrong excerpts this time, though.

A little creative word editing could make it correct.

THIS?????
"3. OK....so you're a reliable Democrat voter...."

That wasn't to the detestable little lying twerp.....it referred to the title....
"Liberals....Come To The Market Place"