Liberal Plan: Everyone On Welfare!

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    1. The plan of the Liberal-socialist administration is to make certain that 'poor' families have incomes and standards of living equal to those who work and produce. This can only be done by confiscatory taxation and socialism at a level unheard of in America.

    Below, from the report "The American Welfare State
    How We Spend Nearly $1 Trillion a Year Fighting Poverty—and Fail"

    by Michael Tanner
    Scribd
    The data is indisputable.

    2. "During the 1990–92 recession and jobless recovery,
    enrollment increased by 5.2 million, and
    spending rose by $9.1 billion. During the
    current recession (over a comparable three year period), enrollment increased by 12
    million people, while spending increased by $30 billion.
    U.S. Department of Agriculture, Food and
    Nutrition Services, “Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program Participation and Costs,” SNAP Annual Summary.

    a….the dramatically larger increase also suggests that part
    of the program’s growth is due to conscious
    policy choices by this administration to ease
    eligibility rules and expand caseloads….
    income limits for eligibility have
    risen twice as fast as inflation since 2007
    and are now roughly 10 percent higher than
    they were when Obama took office. Casey Mulligan, “The Sharp Increase in
    the Food Stamps Program,” Economix, http://
    economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/thesharp-increase-in-the-food-stamps-program/.

    b. …the stimulus bill included a provision that created a new “emergency fund” to help states pay for added welfare recipients, with the federal government
    footing 80 percent of the cost for the new “clients.”
    Robert Rector and Katherine Bradley, “Stimulus Bill Abolishes Welfare Reform and Adds New Welfare Spending,” Heritage Foundation, http://
    www.heritage.org/research/reports/2009/02/
    s t imulus -bi l l - abol i she s -we l f a r e - r e form- andadds-new-welfare-spending.

    3. This was an important change
    because it undid many of the incentives contained in the 1996 Clinton welfare reform, which helped states to reduce welfare rolls.
    Under the new rules, states that succeed in
    getting people off welfare lose the opportunity for increased federal funding.

    And states that make it easier to stay on welfare
    (by, say, raising the time limit from two years
    to five) are rewarded with more taxpayer
    cash.
    The bill even let states with rising welfare rolls continue to collect their “case-load reduction” bonuses.
    Mickey Kaus, “The Money Liberal Conspiracy at Work,” Slate, http://www.slate.com/blogs/ kausfiles/2009/02/10/the_money_liberal_con
    spiracy_at_work.html.

    a. According to Obama administration projections, combined federal and state welfare spending will not drop significantly once the
    economy fully recovers.
    As we have seen, welfare spending has continued to increase. Office of Management and Budget, Analytical Perspectives: Budget of the U.S. Government, Fiscal
    Year 2010 (Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, 2008), CD-ROM, Table 24-14, http:/ www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Analytical Perspectives.

    b. According to these
    projections, over the next 10 years, federal
    and state governments will spend $250,000
    for every American currently living in poverty, or $1 million for every poor family of
    four.
    Ibid.


    The choice in November is clear.
     
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    Once they find their way onto the dole, do you really think they will ever be motivated to vote their way off of it?
    Barry's close right now at 49%, that was his motive for the avalanche of welfare progams emanating from DC when he took office. "Hmmm! If I can just slide the number of people receiving welfare from the state over into the 51% range, they'll elect me president for life, just like my friend Hugo!" The State of Maine, which brought us RINOs Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe bosts of 51% on the dole, with only 49% laboring to pay for them. RI is in the unenviable position of having more state employee retirees drawing pensions than working people laboring away daily to pay for them. All of the New England states are on the list of states in immediate danger of bankruptcy.
    "We have to tax more so we can spend more!" Charles Rangel (Communist Party-NY)
    "What! Me worry?" Alfredd E Neumann
     
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    beats workin
     
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    The latest is to allow people to work and get welfare too!
     
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    yep when you "try" out a job you can still get unemployment? WOW they really do want to turn the US into North Korea or Cuba
     
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    The worst part is that how many will try out a job, then consider if they take that job they lose welfare benefits. Better to try out another job.

    If this program is run like the California welfare to work program, they won't get many employers willing to take on the paperwork.
     
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    1. For men, and for many women, I believe, working and being productive is part of their self-identification.
    That is why it is so important to dissolve that feeling by convincing many that they are victims, and cannot succeed.


    2. Sadly....half of this nation depends on 'the dole' in one way or another:

    " The single largest welfare program today
    is Medicaid. Medicaid spending that supports health care for the poor, excluding
    funding for nursing home or long-term care
    for the elderly, topped $228 billion in 2011.
    The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (food stamps) was the second most expensive welfare program, costing taxpayers
    nearly $72 billion. Rounding out the top 10
    were the Earned Income Tax Credit, Child
    Tax Credit, Pell Grants, Supplemental Security Income, the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, housing vouchers, and TANF.

    a. At least 106 million Americans receive benefits from one or more of these programs.
    Sara Murray, “Nearly Half of U.S. Lives in
    Household Receiving Government Benefit,”
    Wall Street Journal, October 5, 2011, http://blogs.
    wsj.com/economics/2011/10/05/nearly-half-ofhouseholds-receive-some-government-benefit/.

    b. None of this, of course, includes middleclass entitlements such as Medicare and
    Social Security, which, while not designed specifically as anti-poverty programs, nevertheless represent transfer payments from the
    government.
    Overall, government payouts,
    including middle-class entitlements, now
    account for more than a third of all wages
    and salaries in the United States
    .
    John Melloy, “Welfare State: Handouts
    Make Up One-Third of U.S. Wages,” CNBC.
    Com, March 8, 2011, http://www.cnbc.com/id/
    41969508.

    c. …, if one includes salaries from government employment, more than half of Americans receive a substantial portion of their income
    from the government.

    Mark Trumbull, “As US Tax Rates Drop,
    Government’s Reach Grows,” Christian Science
    Monitor, April 16, 2007


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    How dare those lazy seniors who worked and paid into Social Security and Medicare all their lives collect a dime from the government. Don't they know the GOP expects them to work and pay until they drop dead from exhaustion???!!!

    From your link:
     
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    Who said that about seniors? I would like my social security invested in the stock market, once Obama is gone. Why do democrats raid social security to give to the NEA?
     
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    The patented CON$erviNutzi dumb act! What do you think "depends on 'the dole'" means???
     

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