Justify banning this rifle...

... with a sound argument, and I will support any gun ban you care to name.

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Note that a 5-rd mag is pictured; the gun can take any standard SR25 5- 10- or 20-rd mag.

The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.
Really.
What's functional and practical difference between the rifle in the OP and this one:
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Please be specific.
 
... with a sound argument, and I will support any gun ban you care to name.

tubb_2000_zps7ed9a28f.jpg


Note that a 5-rd mag is pictured; the gun can take any standard SR25 5- 10- or 20-rd mag.

The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.
Really.
What's functional and practical difference between the rifle in the OP and this one:
Remington_700_BDL_zpsb7436220.jpg

Please be specific.

The guns that should be allowed are the guns that fire only one bullet each time the trigger is pulled. Anymore than that and there is no need for that gun - only want.
 
The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.
Really.
What's functional and practical difference between the rifle in the OP and this one:
Remington_700_BDL_zpsb7436220.jpg

Please be specific.

The guns that should be allowed are the guns that fire only one bullet each time the trigger is pulled. Anymore than that and there is no need for that gun - only want.
Specifically, how does that disqualify the gun in the OP?

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If you agree that government has a compelling need to know where legally obtained vehicles are, why would guns be any different, since some legal guns are used for highly illegal purposes?

There is no Constitutional right to own a car. Further the Government has no idea where your car is unless a cop is behind it on the radio or it is in an impound lot.

What part of "shall not Infringe" don't you understand councilor?

The Government has no compelling interest EXCEPT the ability to decide to confiscate the weapons, to know where legally held and purchased firearms are.
The Fifth Amendment guarantees a right to private property, like your car, for example.
If a robber loses her legal gun during an attempted stick-up, the government has a compelling interest to find that legal gun's owner, Your Honor.

If said robber uses that legal weapon during an attempted stick-up, then it is no longer private property. It is merely evidence for a criminal prosecution. The government does not have a need to know what legal weapons are with which responsible gun owners prior to a crime being committed. We live in a "innocent until proven guilty" society, not the other way around....
 
The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.
Really.
What's functional and practical difference between the rifle in the OP and this one:
Remington_700_BDL_zpsb7436220.jpg

Please be specific.

The guns that should be allowed are the guns that fire only one bullet each time the trigger is pulled. Anymore than that and there is no need for that gun - only want.

If it fires more than one bullet per trigger pull, it's an automatic weapon which has been severly regulated since 1934.
 
And there’s the problem typical of many Second Amendment ‘supporters.’

You make these highly hyperbolic and inaccurate statements which serve to only undermine an otherwise cogent argument.

Yes, registration does manifest an undue burden to the exercising of one’s Second Amendment rights, and there is indeed no evidence that registration reduces gun violence. But it has nothing at all to do with ‘confiscation,’ as no lawmaker or lawmaking body is proposing any such measure.
Yet. Thus the claim of "first step".
There isn’t even a ‘first step.’

There isn’t even a path to walk, for that matter.

If you and others on the right want to have a serious debate concerning the issue, then have a serious debate.

Idiocy about ‘gun confiscation’ is not a serious debate, it’s tinfoil hat nonsense.

I’ve been an advocate of Second Amendment rights since before the 94 ban, in those 20-odd years the most significant obstacle hasn’t been ‘gun-grabbers,’ it’s been the lunatic rightwing fringe burying their guns in the backyard.

Damned good batch of kookaide they were passing out at the country club this morning?
 
The Fifth Amendment guarantees a right to private property, like your car, for example.
If a robber loses her legal gun during an attempted stick-up, the government has a compelling interest to find that legal gun's owner, Your Honor.

You sure you are a lawyer? That argument is so weak a 5 year old could destroy it. EXACTLY how does knowing she had a gun and it being registered help find it after it is stolen? You are aware when you report a weapon stolen they want the serial number in case they recover it?
Obviously I'm not cut out for law...I was trying to create a scenario where a legal gun owner uses her legal gun to attempt a robbery. Apparently, stolen guns do not account for most criminal gun violence:

"An expert on crime gun patterns, ATF agent Jay Wachtel says that most guns used in crimes are not stolen out of private gun owners' homes and cars. 'Stolen guns account for only about 10% to 15% of guns used in crimes,' Wachtel said. Because when they want guns they want them immediately the wait is usually too long for a weapon to be stolen and find its way to a criminal."

frontline: hot guns: "How Criminals Get Guns" | PBS

So registration of firearms by legal owners would have little to no impact on identifying guns used in crimes as stolen?
 
... with a sound argument, and I will support any gun ban you care to name.

tubb_2000_zps7ed9a28f.jpg


Note that a 5-rd mag is pictured; the gun can take any standard SR25 5- 10- or 20-rd mag.

The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.

That rifle is top-of-the-line for competitive shooting. As some others have mentioned, it is not inexpensive, so your local street kook most likely doesn't have one.
What's really scary about you gun-grabbing 'tards is the fact that all of you seem to see no reason to have a firearms except to kill other people. Maybe we should ban liberals/progressives? With thought processes like that, they are very likely a danger to themselves and certainly are a threat to others.
 
... with a sound argument, and I will support any gun ban you care to name.

tubb_2000_zps7ed9a28f.jpg


Note that a 5-rd mag is pictured; the gun can take any standard SR25 5- 10- or 20-rd mag.

The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.

It's a bolt action rifle, MUCH slower than revolvers and shotguns.
 
... with a sound argument, and I will support any gun ban you care to name.

tubb_2000_zps7ed9a28f.jpg


Note that a 5-rd mag is pictured; the gun can take any standard SR25 5- 10- or 20-rd mag.

The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.
Really.
What's functional and practical difference between the rifle in the OP and this one:
Remington_700_BDL_zpsb7436220.jpg

Please be specific.

You're barking up the wrong tree here. This gal's in Australia and is completely bought into their brainwashed gun-banning narrative. She may never have seen a real rifle, of any sort, outside of the movies. Of course, that will never prevent her coming here and voicing her terror-induced, uninformed, and extremely biased opinion.
 
The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.
Really.
What's functional and practical difference between the rifle in the OP and this one:
Remington_700_BDL_zpsb7436220.jpg

Please be specific.

The guns that should be allowed are the guns that fire only one bullet each time the trigger is pulled. Anymore than that and there is no need for that gun - only want.

This rifle fires one round per trigger pull. It also requires the shooter to manually pull back the bolt to extract the spent cartridge, manually push the bolt forward to load another round into the chamber, then pull the trigger to shoot again.

You shouldn't make assumptions.
 
1) You think it's cool.
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Another superb example of mindless ignorance. Well done.

You misunderstand.

You are an uneducated, unsophisticated, and utterly worthless fridge right gun cultist.

You live in a fantasy world of Red Dawn and Walking Dead. That rifle only serves as a very dangerous prop in your pathetic little fantasies. You're not qualified to be in the police or military and have no valid reason to own and operate a weapon like that.

Because you think it's cool, we can conclude it has no practical purpose.

Get it?

You are a FOOL and had you paid attention, I told you why, early in the thread.
 
... with a sound argument, and I will support any gun ban you care to name.

tubb_2000_zps7ed9a28f.jpg


Note that a 5-rd mag is pictured; the gun can take any standard SR25 5- 10- or 20-rd mag.

The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.

You are so wrong and you have no idea why. Why exactly does that gun differ from this one? Which do you want taken off the market? Why?

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... with a sound argument, and I will support any gun ban you care to name.

tubb_2000_zps7ed9a28f.jpg


Note that a 5-rd mag is pictured; the gun can take any standard SR25 5- 10- or 20-rd mag.

The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.

If brains were gold, you couldn't buy penny candy.
 
The only reason someone needs a gun like that is to shoot multiple people in a short space of time.
It is not the gun needed for home defense, so ban it.

Setting aside the fact you miss the idea behind the 2nd amendment entirely, and the fact that the firearm pictured is a BOLT ACTION, what makes you so sure that 'multiple people' could not carry out a home invasion, thereby requiring a firearm designed to fire several shots in a "short space of time"?
 
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There is no Constitutional right to own a car. Further the Government has no idea where your car is unless a cop is behind it on the radio or it is in an impound lot.

What part of "shall not Infringe" don't you understand councilor?

The Government has no compelling interest EXCEPT the ability to decide to confiscate the weapons, to know where legally held and purchased firearms are.
The Fifth Amendment guarantees a right to private property, like your car, for example.
If a robber loses her legal gun during an attempted stick-up, the government has a compelling interest to find that legal gun's owner, Your Honor.

If said robber uses that legal weapon during an attempted stick-up, then it is no longer private property. It is merely evidence for a criminal prosecution. The government does not have a need to know what legal weapons are with which responsible gun owners prior to a crime being committed. We live in a "innocent until proven guilty" society, not the other way around....
By your reasoning we should wait to register a vehicle until it's used in a hit-and-run?
 

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