Just coming in from Fox News. Hillary Seems To Have Fainted/Falling Spell At 9/11 Event.

[bripat9643]

The burden does fall on Hillary to prove she has no serious medical issues. Do you actually pretend to believe that she is entitled to hide such a thing from the voters? If you do, it only proves you're a Hillary butthole sucking douche bag.

I obviously can't prove to your satisfaction (that is, beyond all doubt) That Hillary has a serious medical issue. I can't force her to be examined by an independent physician or force her to turn over all her medical records. Your demands for irrefutable proof from me only proves, once again, that you're a douche bag.

Here ya go... whine away....

Clinton campaign releases new health information

(CNN) Hillary Clinton's campaign released additional medical information Wednesday after questions about her health intensified in the wake of her pneumonia diagnosis late last week.

She was diagnosed with mild, non-contagious bacterial pneumonia, her doctor said, a step the campaign took after the candidate had to take three days off the campaign trail after nearly collapsing at an event on Sunday.

According to Bardack, "The remainder of her complete physical exam was normal and she is in excellent mental condition."​

"mild, non-contagious bacterial pneumonia"

Huh, and yet many on her staff said that they also had pneumonia. Gosh, what are the odds that so many came down with pneumonia, considering it was the "non-contagious" kind?

http://64.147.104.30/blogs/ballot-b...lintons-pneumonia-also-plagued-campaign-staff

I don't believe one single bit of this. It's bullshit. Something is wrong with her and they are lying their asses off to cover it up.

There are extenuating factors which can determine if and when pneumonia is contagious. Just because it's determined not to be contagious when she was examined doesn't indicate whether or not she caught it from someone from her campaign.

And what you believe is meaningless, you have no proof to the contrary.

I called this one. I just said earlier if she releases a more current medical record, the right will simply dismiss it as fake. You guys are too predictable.

Yadda, yadda, yadda. Non-contagious yet many on her staff were sick with pneumonia. Someone is lying and you're spinning.

On the 9/11 vid, when they put her into the car I thought she was passed out cold. She wasn't. When her right leg finally moved and she fell forward, her head remained rigid, as it was when she was propped against the pole. That vid is NOT of a person who was over come with heat/dehydration - er, um oh yeah pneumonia - and passed out. Something much bigger is going on with her and the clintons, as usual, are in 'coverupandlie' mode.

No, she needs to release her med records after a full exam by a non-paid off/blackmailed/bought doc.

She does not need to do any such thing. You could write up her medical report and if it doesn't indicate she is dying, the right will dismiss it as fake.

We've played this game before with Birthers and Obama. There's no reason to repeat that insanity. She's released her medical history -- if that's not good enough for you, tough shit.

Anyone who believes the shit she released is her actual medical record is terminally gullible. Nothing she says ads up. Her doctor claims she has pneumonia that isn't contagious, but the Hillary campaign is trying to prove she had pneumonia by claiming all her staff members got it. Is her pneumonia contagious or not? That right there is enough to discredit her story.

 

[bripat9643]

Does that alone prove she has Parkinson's? Of course not. Only a total dumbass would claim it did. It's just one of the pieces in the puzzle. Hillary has had numerous coughing fits. Each one is evidence that she has a serious medical issue.

Something is obviously wrong. And the fact that they didn't rush her to the hospital after she collapsed certainly indicates that this is nothing new. Even if she has a team of doctors travelling with her, they would still need tests to find out what is wrong. Secret Service are obligated to take anyone in their charge to the hospital in the event anything goes wrong. That didn't happen, which broke protocol. Instead, she goes to her daughter's house and drinks some water and is magically cured after nearly hitting the ground. Before she collapsed, her head was so rigid. Not normal for someone fainting.

Here are some thoughts from a former Secret Service agent who understands about protocol.

"I protected First Lady Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, and their family while I served in the Secret Service Uniform Division as an officer from 1991-2003.

By now, you have most likely seen the startling video of Hillary Clinton ‘fainting.’ Through the lens of my 29-year-career in The Service, I can see what a naked-eyed media pundit cannot: There is something seriously wrong with Mrs. Clinton.

Pneumonia or overheating are highly suspect excuses and I’ll explain why.

My analysis is not partisan. I cared for and protected the Clintons for many years. It was my duty to guard Mrs. Clinton in the Secret Service and I was so close to the First Family that the Supreme Court subpoenaed me to testify on the details of Bill Clinton’s late-term scandals.

These are the facts.

Watch Clinton's Secret Service’s detail in the video. Their behavior is extremely professional and very telling. Each agent is to be commended.

At the beginning of the video, Hillary is with a protective detail of Secret Service agents, as well as two female staffers. One staffer stands very close at her back and another is shoulder-to-shoulder and arm-in-arm with Mrs. Clinton to give her balance and prop her up.

Mrs. Clinton leans against a "ballard," the metal columns we use to stop incoming 5-ton vehicles, and "bicycle racks" (our nickname for the portable metal fences) to restrict pedestrian access to an area.

As the van pulls up, she has a rigid wavering posture. She awkwardly leans on the ballard and stares straight ahead with her neck craned and extended up as her body is supported at the side and rear by her staffers.

One agent gets the door, but no one moves to enter. The Secret Service doesn’t like to wait—standing still in the eyes of the Service is waiting for an attack to happen. But the staffer can’t move Mrs. Clinton. Anything that holds up a motorcade is extremely dangerous and anything that ties up a Secret Service agent’s hands from drawing their pistol or intervening a threat is a hazard.

The female agent at the front of the van is scanning. She sees Mrs. Clinton odd behavior as well. The female agent begins backing up to the entrance of the van to shield both sight and anyone approaching—as is procedure. She keys her mic signaling that the van is about to move. The agent is to be commended for maintaining her blank expression.

The agent who opened the door moves to take the place of the staffer and take Mrs. Clinton’s arm, but as they switch control, she nearly falls completely. The bald agent, who I believe is the shift leader, knows what is going on with Mrs. Clinton and - this oddity is very telling - crosses between her and her exit (the van door).

As Mrs. Clinton jerks back and forth and her legs fold, the bald agent takes her right arm. The staffer also tries to also grab underneath Mrs. Clinton’s armpits to lift Mrs. Clinton.

Close examination of Mrs. Clinton’s legs reveal her feet and legs have extended and are not holding her weight at all. The toes of her right foot drag and skid on the pavement. As they lift and push her forward, her legs don’t keep up and she falls forward again, yet they can’t lift her too high as to risk smacking her head. Any Officer or protection agent knows the risk of that.

That is when all the other agents, especially this young jet-black haired one, convene to shield her from view completely. We call this "collapsing on" the protectee. They left in such a hurry to get her from the public view that her shoe—which she could not retain—was left behind.

After 9/11, Dick Cheney spoke of how his security detail, when moving him to a secure area, lifted him by his Secret Service issued un-snap-able belt, which is used to lift and move a protectee to where they wanted the person to go.

Hillary Clinton was not wearing this standard issue belt.

So what did we hear after? At first it was that she overheated and dehydrated. Now it’s pneumonia. Before, videos of her similar spastic bizarre movement were blamed on allergies and other excuses. Clearly, the totality of her prior blood clots and deep vein thrombosis, along with her concussion and related broken elbow, tell a different story.

Here’s what was very disturbing to me: after the medical episode, she went to her daughter’s apartment and not to an Emergency Room. Secret Service procedure for each detail dictates that everyone knows which hospital to go to depending on the event - heart failure, gunshot, you name it. It is very revealing that, whatever is wrong with her, she is being treated by her own private medical specialists in secret and, judging by the ballet-like reaction by her detail, they have dealt with this before.

Her detail knew that there was something very wrong with her and they were prepared.

When I protected her, I witnessed her irate behavior and, frankly, I don’t think anyone can operate with such uncontrollable fits of anger and not have it take a toll on a person’s health—I think that’s exactly what has resulted. I can’t help but feel sorry for her detail, because I know from personal experience that they will bear the burden for as long as their mental and physical resilience will tolerate. I bet that night they got berated for letting this "leak," but it has nothing to do with their performance and everything to do with her character.

When I worked at the White House, a man exhibited the same exact behavior as he froze inside a medical detector. On his full time nurse’s request, I held him under the armpits and stood by him until his seizure passed. He was an average American and, while it was embarrassing for him in front of all those people, I was employed to protect and serve. All he had to do was be straight with me and all was well. I expect Hillary to do the same and I expect my media to do like I did, ask what’s going on so we know how to respond.

She’s putting herself, her party, and her Secret Service detail at risk. Her health is directly tied to the health of our country and we deserve treatment."



http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/

A Secret Service agent is not qualified to diagnosis any medical condition. Accepting that as medical evidence over an examination by a qualified MD supported by medical tests and a CT Scan is a bit ridiculous.

The fact that after resting and being treated for dehydration, she was able to walk out the door of the apartment is in keeping with her doctor's diagnosis, pneumonia and overheating. A low grade fever, upper repository congestion, fatigue, and a CT Scan showing a small right middle-lobe pneumonia makes the diagnosis pretty definite. Her doctor examined her several times after the event and reports she is improving.
http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Hmmm, no, that's bullshit. You don't recover from either heat exhaustion or pneumonia in 90 minutes. When did she get a CT scan? If she got one, then let her produce it. her doctor is a paid flunky. She's the women we see in the 9/11 videos telling hillary to squeeze her hand. That's a test for neurological issues, not pneumonia. Why was Hillary even at the ceremony if she knew she had pneumonia? Why was her doctor there? There are a million things about the whole affair that don't make sense is Hillary is not lying.

 

[bripat9643]

Does that alone prove she has Parkinson's? Of course not. Only a total dumbass would claim it did. It's just one of the pieces in the puzzle. Hillary has had numerous coughing fits. Each one is evidence that she has a serious medical issue.

Something is obviously wrong. And the fact that they didn't rush her to the hospital after she collapsed certainly indicates that this is nothing new.

... it also indicates it was nothing serious.

No it doesn't, moron. It indicates that Hillary doesn't want the public to know what is wrong with her.

 

[bripat9643]

I just caught this watching the 9/11 event on Fox. Apparently Hillary collapsed, ...
And She says Donald Trump isn't fit to be president?

LOLROTF !!!!!!!!!!!
This thread is soooooooo funny.

I could have predicted the Trump supporters would pounce on this Topic.
There were 50 posts in the first 25 min and now there are 1,850+ posts!

HRC with only half a brain would be twice as mature as Trump.
.

I think anyone could have predicted that irrefutable evidence of Hillary's serious medical issues would be a hot topic in any forum.

 

[Flopper]

Does that alone prove she has Parkinson's? Of course not. Only a total dumbass would claim it did. It's just one of the pieces in the puzzle. Hillary has had numerous coughing fits. Each one is evidence that she has a serious medical issue.

Something is obviously wrong. And the fact that they didn't rush her to the hospital after she collapsed certainly indicates that this is nothing new. Even if she has a team of doctors travelling with her, they would still need tests to find out what is wrong. Secret Service are obligated to take anyone in their charge to the hospital in the event anything goes wrong. That didn't happen, which broke protocol. Instead, she goes to her daughter's house and drinks some water and is magically cured after nearly hitting the ground. Before she collapsed, her head was so rigid. Not normal for someone fainting.

Here are some thoughts from a former Secret Service agent who understands about protocol.

"I protected First Lady Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, and their family while I served in the Secret Service Uniform Division as an officer from 1991-2003.

By now, you have most likely seen the startling video of Hillary Clinton ‘fainting.’ Through the lens of my 29-year-career in The Service, I can see what a naked-eyed media pundit cannot: There is something seriously wrong with Mrs. Clinton.

Pneumonia or overheating are highly suspect excuses and I’ll explain why.

My analysis is not partisan. I cared for and protected the Clintons for many years. It was my duty to guard Mrs. Clinton in the Secret Service and I was so close to the First Family that the Supreme Court subpoenaed me to testify on the details of Bill Clinton’s late-term scandals.

These are the facts.

Watch Clinton's Secret Service’s detail in the video. Their behavior is extremely professional and very telling. Each agent is to be commended.

At the beginning of the video, Hillary is with a protective detail of Secret Service agents, as well as two female staffers. One staffer stands very close at her back and another is shoulder-to-shoulder and arm-in-arm with Mrs. Clinton to give her balance and prop her up.

Mrs. Clinton leans against a "ballard," the metal columns we use to stop incoming 5-ton vehicles, and "bicycle racks" (our nickname for the portable metal fences) to restrict pedestrian access to an area.

As the van pulls up, she has a rigid wavering posture. She awkwardly leans on the ballard and stares straight ahead with her neck craned and extended up as her body is supported at the side and rear by her staffers.

One agent gets the door, but no one moves to enter. The Secret Service doesn’t like to wait—standing still in the eyes of the Service is waiting for an attack to happen. But the staffer can’t move Mrs. Clinton. Anything that holds up a motorcade is extremely dangerous and anything that ties up a Secret Service agent’s hands from drawing their pistol or intervening a threat is a hazard.

The female agent at the front of the van is scanning. She sees Mrs. Clinton odd behavior as well. The female agent begins backing up to the entrance of the van to shield both sight and anyone approaching—as is procedure. She keys her mic signaling that the van is about to move. The agent is to be commended for maintaining her blank expression.

The agent who opened the door moves to take the place of the staffer and take Mrs. Clinton’s arm, but as they switch control, she nearly falls completely. The bald agent, who I believe is the shift leader, knows what is going on with Mrs. Clinton and - this oddity is very telling - crosses between her and her exit (the van door).

As Mrs. Clinton jerks back and forth and her legs fold, the bald agent takes her right arm. The staffer also tries to also grab underneath Mrs. Clinton’s armpits to lift Mrs. Clinton.

Close examination of Mrs. Clinton’s legs reveal her feet and legs have extended and are not holding her weight at all. The toes of her right foot drag and skid on the pavement. As they lift and push her forward, her legs don’t keep up and she falls forward again, yet they can’t lift her too high as to risk smacking her head. Any Officer or protection agent knows the risk of that.

That is when all the other agents, especially this young jet-black haired one, convene to shield her from view completely. We call this "collapsing on" the protectee. They left in such a hurry to get her from the public view that her shoe—which she could not retain—was left behind.

After 9/11, Dick Cheney spoke of how his security detail, when moving him to a secure area, lifted him by his Secret Service issued un-snap-able belt, which is used to lift and move a protectee to where they wanted the person to go.

Hillary Clinton was not wearing this standard issue belt.

So what did we hear after? At first it was that she overheated and dehydrated. Now it’s pneumonia. Before, videos of her similar spastic bizarre movement were blamed on allergies and other excuses. Clearly, the totality of her prior blood clots and deep vein thrombosis, along with her concussion and related broken elbow, tell a different story.

Here’s what was very disturbing to me: after the medical episode, she went to her daughter’s apartment and not to an Emergency Room. Secret Service procedure for each detail dictates that everyone knows which hospital to go to depending on the event - heart failure, gunshot, you name it. It is very revealing that, whatever is wrong with her, she is being treated by her own private medical specialists in secret and, judging by the ballet-like reaction by her detail, they have dealt with this before.

Her detail knew that there was something very wrong with her and they were prepared.

When I protected her, I witnessed her irate behavior and, frankly, I don’t think anyone can operate with such uncontrollable fits of anger and not have it take a toll on a person’s health—I think that’s exactly what has resulted. I can’t help but feel sorry for her detail, because I know from personal experience that they will bear the burden for as long as their mental and physical resilience will tolerate. I bet that night they got berated for letting this "leak," but it has nothing to do with their performance and everything to do with her character.

When I worked at the White House, a man exhibited the same exact behavior as he froze inside a medical detector. On his full time nurse’s request, I held him under the armpits and stood by him until his seizure passed. He was an average American and, while it was embarrassing for him in front of all those people, I was employed to protect and serve. All he had to do was be straight with me and all was well. I expect Hillary to do the same and I expect my media to do like I did, ask what’s going on so we know how to respond.

She’s putting herself, her party, and her Secret Service detail at risk. Her health is directly tied to the health of our country and we deserve treatment."



http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/

A Secret Service agent is not qualified to diagnosis any medical condition. Accepting that as medical evidence over an examination by a qualified MD supported by medical tests and a CT Scan is a bit ridiculous.

The fact that after resting and being treated for dehydration, she was able to walk out the door of the apartment is in keeping with her doctor's diagnosis, pneumonia and overheating. A low grade fever, upper repository congestion, fatigue, and a CT Scan showing a small right middle-lobe pneumonia makes the diagnosis pretty definite. Her doctor examined her several times after the event and reports she is improving.
http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Hmmm, no, that's bullshit. You don't recover from either heat exhaustion or pneumonia in 90 minutes. When did she get a CT scan? If she got one, then let her produce it. her doctor is a paid flunky. She's the women we see in the 9/11 videos telling hillary to squeeze her hand. That's a test for neurological issues, not pneumonia. Why was Hillary even at the ceremony if she knew she had pneumonia? Why was her doctor there? There are a million things about the whole affair that don't make sense is Hillary is not lying.

There is no reason for her to produce a CT scan. Trumpets will just say it's a fake. She's already release a letter from her doctor with the CT Scan results and other test results, a lot more than Trump has produced.

http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

 

[bripat9643]

Does that alone prove she has Parkinson's? Of course not. Only a total dumbass would claim it did. It's just one of the pieces in the puzzle. Hillary has had numerous coughing fits. Each one is evidence that she has a serious medical issue.

Something is obviously wrong. And the fact that they didn't rush her to the hospital after she collapsed certainly indicates that this is nothing new. Even if she has a team of doctors travelling with her, they would still need tests to find out what is wrong. Secret Service are obligated to take anyone in their charge to the hospital in the event anything goes wrong. That didn't happen, which broke protocol. Instead, she goes to her daughter's house and drinks some water and is magically cured after nearly hitting the ground. Before she collapsed, her head was so rigid. Not normal for someone fainting.

Here are some thoughts from a former Secret Service agent who understands about protocol.

"I protected First Lady Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, and their family while I served in the Secret Service Uniform Division as an officer from 1991-2003.

By now, you have most likely seen the startling video of Hillary Clinton ‘fainting.’ Through the lens of my 29-year-career in The Service, I can see what a naked-eyed media pundit cannot: There is something seriously wrong with Mrs. Clinton.

Pneumonia or overheating are highly suspect excuses and I’ll explain why.

My analysis is not partisan. I cared for and protected the Clintons for many years. It was my duty to guard Mrs. Clinton in the Secret Service and I was so close to the First Family that the Supreme Court subpoenaed me to testify on the details of Bill Clinton’s late-term scandals.

These are the facts.

Watch Clinton's Secret Service’s detail in the video. Their behavior is extremely professional and very telling. Each agent is to be commended.

At the beginning of the video, Hillary is with a protective detail of Secret Service agents, as well as two female staffers. One staffer stands very close at her back and another is shoulder-to-shoulder and arm-in-arm with Mrs. Clinton to give her balance and prop her up.

Mrs. Clinton leans against a "ballard," the metal columns we use to stop incoming 5-ton vehicles, and "bicycle racks" (our nickname for the portable metal fences) to restrict pedestrian access to an area.

As the van pulls up, she has a rigid wavering posture. She awkwardly leans on the ballard and stares straight ahead with her neck craned and extended up as her body is supported at the side and rear by her staffers.

One agent gets the door, but no one moves to enter. The Secret Service doesn’t like to wait—standing still in the eyes of the Service is waiting for an attack to happen. But the staffer can’t move Mrs. Clinton. Anything that holds up a motorcade is extremely dangerous and anything that ties up a Secret Service agent’s hands from drawing their pistol or intervening a threat is a hazard.

The female agent at the front of the van is scanning. She sees Mrs. Clinton odd behavior as well. The female agent begins backing up to the entrance of the van to shield both sight and anyone approaching—as is procedure. She keys her mic signaling that the van is about to move. The agent is to be commended for maintaining her blank expression.

The agent who opened the door moves to take the place of the staffer and take Mrs. Clinton’s arm, but as they switch control, she nearly falls completely. The bald agent, who I believe is the shift leader, knows what is going on with Mrs. Clinton and - this oddity is very telling - crosses between her and her exit (the van door).

As Mrs. Clinton jerks back and forth and her legs fold, the bald agent takes her right arm. The staffer also tries to also grab underneath Mrs. Clinton’s armpits to lift Mrs. Clinton.

Close examination of Mrs. Clinton’s legs reveal her feet and legs have extended and are not holding her weight at all. The toes of her right foot drag and skid on the pavement. As they lift and push her forward, her legs don’t keep up and she falls forward again, yet they can’t lift her too high as to risk smacking her head. Any Officer or protection agent knows the risk of that.

That is when all the other agents, especially this young jet-black haired one, convene to shield her from view completely. We call this "collapsing on" the protectee. They left in such a hurry to get her from the public view that her shoe—which she could not retain—was left behind.

After 9/11, Dick Cheney spoke of how his security detail, when moving him to a secure area, lifted him by his Secret Service issued un-snap-able belt, which is used to lift and move a protectee to where they wanted the person to go.

Hillary Clinton was not wearing this standard issue belt.

So what did we hear after? At first it was that she overheated and dehydrated. Now it’s pneumonia. Before, videos of her similar spastic bizarre movement were blamed on allergies and other excuses. Clearly, the totality of her prior blood clots and deep vein thrombosis, along with her concussion and related broken elbow, tell a different story.

Here’s what was very disturbing to me: after the medical episode, she went to her daughter’s apartment and not to an Emergency Room. Secret Service procedure for each detail dictates that everyone knows which hospital to go to depending on the event - heart failure, gunshot, you name it. It is very revealing that, whatever is wrong with her, she is being treated by her own private medical specialists in secret and, judging by the ballet-like reaction by her detail, they have dealt with this before.

Her detail knew that there was something very wrong with her and they were prepared.

When I protected her, I witnessed her irate behavior and, frankly, I don’t think anyone can operate with such uncontrollable fits of anger and not have it take a toll on a person’s health—I think that’s exactly what has resulted. I can’t help but feel sorry for her detail, because I know from personal experience that they will bear the burden for as long as their mental and physical resilience will tolerate. I bet that night they got berated for letting this "leak," but it has nothing to do with their performance and everything to do with her character.

When I worked at the White House, a man exhibited the same exact behavior as he froze inside a medical detector. On his full time nurse’s request, I held him under the armpits and stood by him until his seizure passed. He was an average American and, while it was embarrassing for him in front of all those people, I was employed to protect and serve. All he had to do was be straight with me and all was well. I expect Hillary to do the same and I expect my media to do like I did, ask what’s going on so we know how to respond.

She’s putting herself, her party, and her Secret Service detail at risk. Her health is directly tied to the health of our country and we deserve treatment."



http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/

A Secret Service agent is not qualified to diagnosis any medical condition. Accepting that as medical evidence over an examination by a qualified MD supported by medical tests and a CT Scan is a bit ridiculous.

The fact that after resting and being treated for dehydration, she was able to walk out the door of the apartment is in keeping with her doctor's diagnosis, pneumonia and overheating. A low grade fever, upper repository congestion, fatigue, and a CT Scan showing a small right middle-lobe pneumonia makes the diagnosis pretty definite. Her doctor examined her several times after the event and reports she is improving.
http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Hmmm, no, that's bullshit. You don't recover from either heat exhaustion or pneumonia in 90 minutes. When did she get a CT scan? If she got one, then let her produce it. her doctor is a paid flunky. She's the women we see in the 9/11 videos telling hillary to squeeze her hand. That's a test for neurological issues, not pneumonia. Why was Hillary even at the ceremony if she knew she had pneumonia? Why was her doctor there? There are a million things about the whole affair that don't make sense is Hillary is not lying.

There is no reason for her to produce a CT scan. Trumpets will just say it's a fake. She's already release a letter from her doctor with the CT Scan results and other test results, a lot more than Trump has produced.

http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Sure there is. She claims she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then let's see the proof. At this point we can assume everything she says is a lie. The same goes for her doctor.

 

[Norman]

Does that alone prove she has Parkinson's? Of course not. Only a total dumbass would claim it did. It's just one of the pieces in the puzzle. Hillary has had numerous coughing fits. Each one is evidence that she has a serious medical issue.

Something is obviously wrong. And the fact that they didn't rush her to the hospital after she collapsed certainly indicates that this is nothing new. Even if she has a team of doctors travelling with her, they would still need tests to find out what is wrong. Secret Service are obligated to take anyone in their charge to the hospital in the event anything goes wrong. That didn't happen, which broke protocol. Instead, she goes to her daughter's house and drinks some water and is magically cured after nearly hitting the ground. Before she collapsed, her head was so rigid. Not normal for someone fainting.

Here are some thoughts from a former Secret Service agent who understands about protocol.

"I protected First Lady Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, and their family while I served in the Secret Service Uniform Division as an officer from 1991-2003.

By now, you have most likely seen the startling video of Hillary Clinton ‘fainting.’ Through the lens of my 29-year-career in The Service, I can see what a naked-eyed media pundit cannot: There is something seriously wrong with Mrs. Clinton.

Pneumonia or overheating are highly suspect excuses and I’ll explain why.

My analysis is not partisan. I cared for and protected the Clintons for many years. It was my duty to guard Mrs. Clinton in the Secret Service and I was so close to the First Family that the Supreme Court subpoenaed me to testify on the details of Bill Clinton’s late-term scandals.

These are the facts.

Watch Clinton's Secret Service’s detail in the video. Their behavior is extremely professional and very telling. Each agent is to be commended.

At the beginning of the video, Hillary is with a protective detail of Secret Service agents, as well as two female staffers. One staffer stands very close at her back and another is shoulder-to-shoulder and arm-in-arm with Mrs. Clinton to give her balance and prop her up.

Mrs. Clinton leans against a "ballard," the metal columns we use to stop incoming 5-ton vehicles, and "bicycle racks" (our nickname for the portable metal fences) to restrict pedestrian access to an area.

As the van pulls up, she has a rigid wavering posture. She awkwardly leans on the ballard and stares straight ahead with her neck craned and extended up as her body is supported at the side and rear by her staffers.

One agent gets the door, but no one moves to enter. The Secret Service doesn’t like to wait—standing still in the eyes of the Service is waiting for an attack to happen. But the staffer can’t move Mrs. Clinton. Anything that holds up a motorcade is extremely dangerous and anything that ties up a Secret Service agent’s hands from drawing their pistol or intervening a threat is a hazard.

The female agent at the front of the van is scanning. She sees Mrs. Clinton odd behavior as well. The female agent begins backing up to the entrance of the van to shield both sight and anyone approaching—as is procedure. She keys her mic signaling that the van is about to move. The agent is to be commended for maintaining her blank expression.

The agent who opened the door moves to take the place of the staffer and take Mrs. Clinton’s arm, but as they switch control, she nearly falls completely. The bald agent, who I believe is the shift leader, knows what is going on with Mrs. Clinton and - this oddity is very telling - crosses between her and her exit (the van door).

As Mrs. Clinton jerks back and forth and her legs fold, the bald agent takes her right arm. The staffer also tries to also grab underneath Mrs. Clinton’s armpits to lift Mrs. Clinton.

Close examination of Mrs. Clinton’s legs reveal her feet and legs have extended and are not holding her weight at all. The toes of her right foot drag and skid on the pavement. As they lift and push her forward, her legs don’t keep up and she falls forward again, yet they can’t lift her too high as to risk smacking her head. Any Officer or protection agent knows the risk of that.

That is when all the other agents, especially this young jet-black haired one, convene to shield her from view completely. We call this "collapsing on" the protectee. They left in such a hurry to get her from the public view that her shoe—which she could not retain—was left behind.

After 9/11, Dick Cheney spoke of how his security detail, when moving him to a secure area, lifted him by his Secret Service issued un-snap-able belt, which is used to lift and move a protectee to where they wanted the person to go.

Hillary Clinton was not wearing this standard issue belt.

So what did we hear after? At first it was that she overheated and dehydrated. Now it’s pneumonia. Before, videos of her similar spastic bizarre movement were blamed on allergies and other excuses. Clearly, the totality of her prior blood clots and deep vein thrombosis, along with her concussion and related broken elbow, tell a different story.

Here’s what was very disturbing to me: after the medical episode, she went to her daughter’s apartment and not to an Emergency Room. Secret Service procedure for each detail dictates that everyone knows which hospital to go to depending on the event - heart failure, gunshot, you name it. It is very revealing that, whatever is wrong with her, she is being treated by her own private medical specialists in secret and, judging by the ballet-like reaction by her detail, they have dealt with this before.

Her detail knew that there was something very wrong with her and they were prepared.

When I protected her, I witnessed her irate behavior and, frankly, I don’t think anyone can operate with such uncontrollable fits of anger and not have it take a toll on a person’s health—I think that’s exactly what has resulted. I can’t help but feel sorry for her detail, because I know from personal experience that they will bear the burden for as long as their mental and physical resilience will tolerate. I bet that night they got berated for letting this "leak," but it has nothing to do with their performance and everything to do with her character.

When I worked at the White House, a man exhibited the same exact behavior as he froze inside a medical detector. On his full time nurse’s request, I held him under the armpits and stood by him until his seizure passed. He was an average American and, while it was embarrassing for him in front of all those people, I was employed to protect and serve. All he had to do was be straight with me and all was well. I expect Hillary to do the same and I expect my media to do like I did, ask what’s going on so we know how to respond.

She’s putting herself, her party, and her Secret Service detail at risk. Her health is directly tied to the health of our country and we deserve treatment."



http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/

A Secret Service agent is not qualified to diagnosis any medical condition. Accepting that as medical evidence over an examination by a qualified MD supported by medical tests and a CT Scan is a bit ridiculous.

The fact that after resting and being treated for dehydration, she was able to walk out the door of the apartment is in keeping with her doctor's diagnosis, pneumonia and overheating. A low grade fever, upper repository congestion, fatigue, and a CT Scan showing a small right middle-lobe pneumonia makes the diagnosis pretty definite. Her doctor examined her several times after the event and reports she is improving.
http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Hmmm, no, that's bullshit. You don't recover from either heat exhaustion or pneumonia in 90 minutes. When did she get a CT scan? If she got one, then let her produce it. her doctor is a paid flunky. She's the women we see in the 9/11 videos telling hillary to squeeze her hand. That's a test for neurological issues, not pneumonia. Why was Hillary even at the ceremony if she knew she had pneumonia? Why was her doctor there? There are a million things about the whole affair that don't make sense is Hillary is not lying.

There is no reason for her to produce a CT scan. Trumpets will just say it's a fake. She's already release a letter from her doctor with the CT Scan results and other test results, a lot more than Trump has produced.

http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Sure there is. She claims she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then let's see the proof. At this point we can assume everything she says is a lie. The same goes for her doctor.

Her campaign already basically lied about her not having pneumonia... Hugging children while being contaminated with a dangerous contagious infection.

Either she doesn't care about children, or is yet again lying. Going by history... I have assumed everything even slightly questionable she says to be a lie since over a decade ago.

 

[Faun]

Does that alone prove she has Parkinson's? Of course not. Only a total dumbass would claim it did. It's just one of the pieces in the puzzle. Hillary has had numerous coughing fits. Each one is evidence that she has a serious medical issue.

Something is obviously wrong. And the fact that they didn't rush her to the hospital after she collapsed certainly indicates that this is nothing new. Even if she has a team of doctors travelling with her, they would still need tests to find out what is wrong. Secret Service are obligated to take anyone in their charge to the hospital in the event anything goes wrong. That didn't happen, which broke protocol. Instead, she goes to her daughter's house and drinks some water and is magically cured after nearly hitting the ground. Before she collapsed, her head was so rigid. Not normal for someone fainting.

Here are some thoughts from a former Secret Service agent who understands about protocol.

"I protected First Lady Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, and their family while I served in the Secret Service Uniform Division as an officer from 1991-2003.

By now, you have most likely seen the startling video of Hillary Clinton ‘fainting.’ Through the lens of my 29-year-career in The Service, I can see what a naked-eyed media pundit cannot: There is something seriously wrong with Mrs. Clinton.

Pneumonia or overheating are highly suspect excuses and I’ll explain why.

My analysis is not partisan. I cared for and protected the Clintons for many years. It was my duty to guard Mrs. Clinton in the Secret Service and I was so close to the First Family that the Supreme Court subpoenaed me to testify on the details of Bill Clinton’s late-term scandals.

These are the facts.

Watch Clinton's Secret Service’s detail in the video. Their behavior is extremely professional and very telling. Each agent is to be commended.

At the beginning of the video, Hillary is with a protective detail of Secret Service agents, as well as two female staffers. One staffer stands very close at her back and another is shoulder-to-shoulder and arm-in-arm with Mrs. Clinton to give her balance and prop her up.

Mrs. Clinton leans against a "ballard," the metal columns we use to stop incoming 5-ton vehicles, and "bicycle racks" (our nickname for the portable metal fences) to restrict pedestrian access to an area.

As the van pulls up, she has a rigid wavering posture. She awkwardly leans on the ballard and stares straight ahead with her neck craned and extended up as her body is supported at the side and rear by her staffers.

One agent gets the door, but no one moves to enter. The Secret Service doesn’t like to wait—standing still in the eyes of the Service is waiting for an attack to happen. But the staffer can’t move Mrs. Clinton. Anything that holds up a motorcade is extremely dangerous and anything that ties up a Secret Service agent’s hands from drawing their pistol or intervening a threat is a hazard.

The female agent at the front of the van is scanning. She sees Mrs. Clinton odd behavior as well. The female agent begins backing up to the entrance of the van to shield both sight and anyone approaching—as is procedure. She keys her mic signaling that the van is about to move. The agent is to be commended for maintaining her blank expression.

The agent who opened the door moves to take the place of the staffer and take Mrs. Clinton’s arm, but as they switch control, she nearly falls completely. The bald agent, who I believe is the shift leader, knows what is going on with Mrs. Clinton and - this oddity is very telling - crosses between her and her exit (the van door).

As Mrs. Clinton jerks back and forth and her legs fold, the bald agent takes her right arm. The staffer also tries to also grab underneath Mrs. Clinton’s armpits to lift Mrs. Clinton.

Close examination of Mrs. Clinton’s legs reveal her feet and legs have extended and are not holding her weight at all. The toes of her right foot drag and skid on the pavement. As they lift and push her forward, her legs don’t keep up and she falls forward again, yet they can’t lift her too high as to risk smacking her head. Any Officer or protection agent knows the risk of that.

That is when all the other agents, especially this young jet-black haired one, convene to shield her from view completely. We call this "collapsing on" the protectee. They left in such a hurry to get her from the public view that her shoe—which she could not retain—was left behind.

After 9/11, Dick Cheney spoke of how his security detail, when moving him to a secure area, lifted him by his Secret Service issued un-snap-able belt, which is used to lift and move a protectee to where they wanted the person to go.

Hillary Clinton was not wearing this standard issue belt.

So what did we hear after? At first it was that she overheated and dehydrated. Now it’s pneumonia. Before, videos of her similar spastic bizarre movement were blamed on allergies and other excuses. Clearly, the totality of her prior blood clots and deep vein thrombosis, along with her concussion and related broken elbow, tell a different story.

Here’s what was very disturbing to me: after the medical episode, she went to her daughter’s apartment and not to an Emergency Room. Secret Service procedure for each detail dictates that everyone knows which hospital to go to depending on the event - heart failure, gunshot, you name it. It is very revealing that, whatever is wrong with her, she is being treated by her own private medical specialists in secret and, judging by the ballet-like reaction by her detail, they have dealt with this before.

Her detail knew that there was something very wrong with her and they were prepared.

When I protected her, I witnessed her irate behavior and, frankly, I don’t think anyone can operate with such uncontrollable fits of anger and not have it take a toll on a person’s health—I think that’s exactly what has resulted. I can’t help but feel sorry for her detail, because I know from personal experience that they will bear the burden for as long as their mental and physical resilience will tolerate. I bet that night they got berated for letting this "leak," but it has nothing to do with their performance and everything to do with her character.

When I worked at the White House, a man exhibited the same exact behavior as he froze inside a medical detector. On his full time nurse’s request, I held him under the armpits and stood by him until his seizure passed. He was an average American and, while it was embarrassing for him in front of all those people, I was employed to protect and serve. All he had to do was be straight with me and all was well. I expect Hillary to do the same and I expect my media to do like I did, ask what’s going on so we know how to respond.

She’s putting herself, her party, and her Secret Service detail at risk. Her health is directly tied to the health of our country and we deserve treatment."



http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/

A Secret Service agent is not qualified to diagnosis any medical condition. Accepting that as medical evidence over an examination by a qualified MD supported by medical tests and a CT Scan is a bit ridiculous.

The fact that after resting and being treated for dehydration, she was able to walk out the door of the apartment is in keeping with her doctor's diagnosis, pneumonia and overheating. A low grade fever, upper repository congestion, fatigue, and a CT Scan showing a small right middle-lobe pneumonia makes the diagnosis pretty definite. Her doctor examined her several times after the event and reports she is improving.
http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Hmmm, no, that's bullshit. You don't recover from either heat exhaustion or pneumonia in 90 minutes. When did she get a CT scan? If she got one, then let her produce it. her doctor is a paid flunky. She's the women we see in the 9/11 videos telling hillary to squeeze her hand. That's a test for neurological issues, not pneumonia. Why was Hillary even at the ceremony if she knew she had pneumonia? Why was her doctor there? There are a million things about the whole affair that don't make sense is Hillary is not lying.

There is no reason for her to produce a CT scan. Trumpets will just say it's a fake. She's already release a letter from her doctor with the CT Scan results and other test results, a lot more than Trump has produced.

http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Sure there is. She claims she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then let's see the proof. At this point we can assume everything she says is a lie. The same goes for her doctor.

Then what's the point of her presenting more documentation you're just going to claim is fake?

 

[Faun]

Something is obviously wrong. And the fact that they didn't rush her to the hospital after she collapsed certainly indicates that this is nothing new. Even if she has a team of doctors travelling with her, they would still need tests to find out what is wrong. Secret Service are obligated to take anyone in their charge to the hospital in the event anything goes wrong. That didn't happen, which broke protocol. Instead, she goes to her daughter's house and drinks some water and is magically cured after nearly hitting the ground. Before she collapsed, her head was so rigid. Not normal for someone fainting.

Here are some thoughts from a former Secret Service agent who understands about protocol.

"I protected First Lady Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, and their family while I served in the Secret Service Uniform Division as an officer from 1991-2003.

By now, you have most likely seen the startling video of Hillary Clinton ‘fainting.’ Through the lens of my 29-year-career in The Service, I can see what a naked-eyed media pundit cannot: There is something seriously wrong with Mrs. Clinton.

Pneumonia or overheating are highly suspect excuses and I’ll explain why.

My analysis is not partisan. I cared for and protected the Clintons for many years. It was my duty to guard Mrs. Clinton in the Secret Service and I was so close to the First Family that the Supreme Court subpoenaed me to testify on the details of Bill Clinton’s late-term scandals.

These are the facts.

Watch Clinton's Secret Service’s detail in the video. Their behavior is extremely professional and very telling. Each agent is to be commended.

At the beginning of the video, Hillary is with a protective detail of Secret Service agents, as well as two female staffers. One staffer stands very close at her back and another is shoulder-to-shoulder and arm-in-arm with Mrs. Clinton to give her balance and prop her up.

Mrs. Clinton leans against a "ballard," the metal columns we use to stop incoming 5-ton vehicles, and "bicycle racks" (our nickname for the portable metal fences) to restrict pedestrian access to an area.

As the van pulls up, she has a rigid wavering posture. She awkwardly leans on the ballard and stares straight ahead with her neck craned and extended up as her body is supported at the side and rear by her staffers.

One agent gets the door, but no one moves to enter. The Secret Service doesn’t like to wait—standing still in the eyes of the Service is waiting for an attack to happen. But the staffer can’t move Mrs. Clinton. Anything that holds up a motorcade is extremely dangerous and anything that ties up a Secret Service agent’s hands from drawing their pistol or intervening a threat is a hazard.

The female agent at the front of the van is scanning. She sees Mrs. Clinton odd behavior as well. The female agent begins backing up to the entrance of the van to shield both sight and anyone approaching—as is procedure. She keys her mic signaling that the van is about to move. The agent is to be commended for maintaining her blank expression.

The agent who opened the door moves to take the place of the staffer and take Mrs. Clinton’s arm, but as they switch control, she nearly falls completely. The bald agent, who I believe is the shift leader, knows what is going on with Mrs. Clinton and - this oddity is very telling - crosses between her and her exit (the van door).

As Mrs. Clinton jerks back and forth and her legs fold, the bald agent takes her right arm. The staffer also tries to also grab underneath Mrs. Clinton’s armpits to lift Mrs. Clinton.

Close examination of Mrs. Clinton’s legs reveal her feet and legs have extended and are not holding her weight at all. The toes of her right foot drag and skid on the pavement. As they lift and push her forward, her legs don’t keep up and she falls forward again, yet they can’t lift her too high as to risk smacking her head. Any Officer or protection agent knows the risk of that.

That is when all the other agents, especially this young jet-black haired one, convene to shield her from view completely. We call this "collapsing on" the protectee. They left in such a hurry to get her from the public view that her shoe—which she could not retain—was left behind.

After 9/11, Dick Cheney spoke of how his security detail, when moving him to a secure area, lifted him by his Secret Service issued un-snap-able belt, which is used to lift and move a protectee to where they wanted the person to go.

Hillary Clinton was not wearing this standard issue belt.

So what did we hear after? At first it was that she overheated and dehydrated. Now it’s pneumonia. Before, videos of her similar spastic bizarre movement were blamed on allergies and other excuses. Clearly, the totality of her prior blood clots and deep vein thrombosis, along with her concussion and related broken elbow, tell a different story.

Here’s what was very disturbing to me: after the medical episode, she went to her daughter’s apartment and not to an Emergency Room. Secret Service procedure for each detail dictates that everyone knows which hospital to go to depending on the event - heart failure, gunshot, you name it. It is very revealing that, whatever is wrong with her, she is being treated by her own private medical specialists in secret and, judging by the ballet-like reaction by her detail, they have dealt with this before.

Her detail knew that there was something very wrong with her and they were prepared.

When I protected her, I witnessed her irate behavior and, frankly, I don’t think anyone can operate with such uncontrollable fits of anger and not have it take a toll on a person’s health—I think that’s exactly what has resulted. I can’t help but feel sorry for her detail, because I know from personal experience that they will bear the burden for as long as their mental and physical resilience will tolerate. I bet that night they got berated for letting this "leak," but it has nothing to do with their performance and everything to do with her character.

When I worked at the White House, a man exhibited the same exact behavior as he froze inside a medical detector. On his full time nurse’s request, I held him under the armpits and stood by him until his seizure passed. He was an average American and, while it was embarrassing for him in front of all those people, I was employed to protect and serve. All he had to do was be straight with me and all was well. I expect Hillary to do the same and I expect my media to do like I did, ask what’s going on so we know how to respond.

She’s putting herself, her party, and her Secret Service detail at risk. Her health is directly tied to the health of our country and we deserve treatment."



http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/

A Secret Service agent is not qualified to diagnosis any medical condition. Accepting that as medical evidence over an examination by a qualified MD supported by medical tests and a CT Scan is a bit ridiculous.

The fact that after resting and being treated for dehydration, she was able to walk out the door of the apartment is in keeping with her doctor's diagnosis, pneumonia and overheating. A low grade fever, upper repository congestion, fatigue, and a CT Scan showing a small right middle-lobe pneumonia makes the diagnosis pretty definite. Her doctor examined her several times after the event and reports she is improving.
http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Hmmm, no, that's bullshit. You don't recover from either heat exhaustion or pneumonia in 90 minutes. When did she get a CT scan? If she got one, then let her produce it. her doctor is a paid flunky. She's the women we see in the 9/11 videos telling hillary to squeeze her hand. That's a test for neurological issues, not pneumonia. Why was Hillary even at the ceremony if she knew she had pneumonia? Why was her doctor there? There are a million things about the whole affair that don't make sense is Hillary is not lying.

There is no reason for her to produce a CT scan. Trumpets will just say it's a fake. She's already release a letter from her doctor with the CT Scan results and other test results, a lot more than Trump has produced.

http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Sure there is. She claims she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then let's see the proof. At this point we can assume everything she says is a lie. The same goes for her doctor.

Her campaign already basically lied about her not having pneumonia... Hugging children while being contaminated with a dangerous contagious infection.

Either she doesn't care about children, or is yet again lying. Going by history... I have assumed everything even slightly questionable she says to be a lie since over a decade ago.

You haven't seen what form of pneumonia she was diagnosed with having, have you?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Here ya go... whine away....

Clinton campaign releases new health information

(CNN) Hillary Clinton's campaign released additional medical information Wednesday after questions about her health intensified in the wake of her pneumonia diagnosis late last week.

She was diagnosed with mild, non-contagious bacterial pneumonia, her doctor said, a step the campaign took after the candidate had to take three days off the campaign trail after nearly collapsing at an event on Sunday.

According to Bardack, "The remainder of her complete physical exam was normal and she is in excellent mental condition."​

"mild, non-contagious bacterial pneumonia"

Huh, and yet many on her staff said that they also had pneumonia. Gosh, what are the odds that so many came down with pneumonia, considering it was the "non-contagious" kind?

http://64.147.104.30/blogs/ballot-b...lintons-pneumonia-also-plagued-campaign-staff

I don't believe one single bit of this. It's bullshit. Something is wrong with her and they are lying their asses off to cover it up.

There are extenuating factors which can determine if and when pneumonia is contagious. Just because it's determined not to be contagious when she was examined doesn't indicate whether or not she caught it from someone from her campaign.

And what you believe is meaningless, you have no proof to the contrary.

I called this one. I just said earlier if she releases a more current medical record, the right will simply dismiss it as fake. You guys are too predictable.

Yadda, yadda, yadda. Non-contagious yet many on her staff were sick with pneumonia. Someone is lying and you're spinning.

On the 9/11 vid, when they put her into the car I thought she was passed out cold. She wasn't. When her right leg finally moved and she fell forward, her head remained rigid, as it was when she was propped against the pole. That vid is NOT of a person who was over come with heat/dehydration - er, um oh yeah pneumonia - and passed out. Something much bigger is going on with her and the clintons, as usual, are in 'coverupandlie' mode.

No, she needs to release her med records after a full exam by a non-paid off/blackmailed/bought doc.

She does not need to do any such thing. You could write up her medical report and if it doesn't indicate she is dying, the right will dismiss it as fake.

We've played this game before with Birthers and Obama. There's no reason to repeat that insanity. She's released her medical history -- if that's not good enough for you, tough shit.

Anyone who believes the shit she released is her actual medical record is terminally gullible. Nothing she says ads up. Her doctor claims she has pneumonia that isn't contagious, but the Hillary campaign is trying to prove she had pneumonia by claiming all her staff members got it. Is her pneumonia contagious or not? That right there is enough to discredit her story.

That's an excellent point.. Once again, Helly Rotten caught lying.. Her staff all caught the same thing and have been sick but her so called Dr. saying it's bacterial and not contagious.. WOW.. This BITCH couldn't tell the truth if her life depended on it.

 

[PK1]

Once again, Helly Rotten caught lying..

Were you born yesterday?
ALL politicians LIE!
Trump is no different.
Trump's statements were awarded PolitiFact's 2015 Lie of the Year!
Most (53%) of his statements were considered complete lies.
Not even Hillary is that bad.
Donald Trump's file
.

 

[Snouter]

Politifacts are NOT facts.

For example, they alluded to the statement by Republicans that the 2009 Obama bailout of Chrysler would eventually lead to Jeeps being made in China as a lie. Guess what? Some models are being made in China now. So fuck the liars at that low information website.

 

[bripat9643]

Something is obviously wrong. And the fact that they didn't rush her to the hospital after she collapsed certainly indicates that this is nothing new. Even if she has a team of doctors travelling with her, they would still need tests to find out what is wrong. Secret Service are obligated to take anyone in their charge to the hospital in the event anything goes wrong. That didn't happen, which broke protocol. Instead, she goes to her daughter's house and drinks some water and is magically cured after nearly hitting the ground. Before she collapsed, her head was so rigid. Not normal for someone fainting.

Here are some thoughts from a former Secret Service agent who understands about protocol.

"I protected First Lady Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, and their family while I served in the Secret Service Uniform Division as an officer from 1991-2003.

By now, you have most likely seen the startling video of Hillary Clinton ‘fainting.’ Through the lens of my 29-year-career in The Service, I can see what a naked-eyed media pundit cannot: There is something seriously wrong with Mrs. Clinton.

Pneumonia or overheating are highly suspect excuses and I’ll explain why.

My analysis is not partisan. I cared for and protected the Clintons for many years. It was my duty to guard Mrs. Clinton in the Secret Service and I was so close to the First Family that the Supreme Court subpoenaed me to testify on the details of Bill Clinton’s late-term scandals.

These are the facts.

Watch Clinton's Secret Service’s detail in the video. Their behavior is extremely professional and very telling. Each agent is to be commended.

At the beginning of the video, Hillary is with a protective detail of Secret Service agents, as well as two female staffers. One staffer stands very close at her back and another is shoulder-to-shoulder and arm-in-arm with Mrs. Clinton to give her balance and prop her up.

Mrs. Clinton leans against a "ballard," the metal columns we use to stop incoming 5-ton vehicles, and "bicycle racks" (our nickname for the portable metal fences) to restrict pedestrian access to an area.

As the van pulls up, she has a rigid wavering posture. She awkwardly leans on the ballard and stares straight ahead with her neck craned and extended up as her body is supported at the side and rear by her staffers.

One agent gets the door, but no one moves to enter. The Secret Service doesn’t like to wait—standing still in the eyes of the Service is waiting for an attack to happen. But the staffer can’t move Mrs. Clinton. Anything that holds up a motorcade is extremely dangerous and anything that ties up a Secret Service agent’s hands from drawing their pistol or intervening a threat is a hazard.

The female agent at the front of the van is scanning. She sees Mrs. Clinton odd behavior as well. The female agent begins backing up to the entrance of the van to shield both sight and anyone approaching—as is procedure. She keys her mic signaling that the van is about to move. The agent is to be commended for maintaining her blank expression.

The agent who opened the door moves to take the place of the staffer and take Mrs. Clinton’s arm, but as they switch control, she nearly falls completely. The bald agent, who I believe is the shift leader, knows what is going on with Mrs. Clinton and - this oddity is very telling - crosses between her and her exit (the van door).

As Mrs. Clinton jerks back and forth and her legs fold, the bald agent takes her right arm. The staffer also tries to also grab underneath Mrs. Clinton’s armpits to lift Mrs. Clinton.

Close examination of Mrs. Clinton’s legs reveal her feet and legs have extended and are not holding her weight at all. The toes of her right foot drag and skid on the pavement. As they lift and push her forward, her legs don’t keep up and she falls forward again, yet they can’t lift her too high as to risk smacking her head. Any Officer or protection agent knows the risk of that.

That is when all the other agents, especially this young jet-black haired one, convene to shield her from view completely. We call this "collapsing on" the protectee. They left in such a hurry to get her from the public view that her shoe—which she could not retain—was left behind.

After 9/11, Dick Cheney spoke of how his security detail, when moving him to a secure area, lifted him by his Secret Service issued un-snap-able belt, which is used to lift and move a protectee to where they wanted the person to go.

Hillary Clinton was not wearing this standard issue belt.

So what did we hear after? At first it was that she overheated and dehydrated. Now it’s pneumonia. Before, videos of her similar spastic bizarre movement were blamed on allergies and other excuses. Clearly, the totality of her prior blood clots and deep vein thrombosis, along with her concussion and related broken elbow, tell a different story.

Here’s what was very disturbing to me: after the medical episode, she went to her daughter’s apartment and not to an Emergency Room. Secret Service procedure for each detail dictates that everyone knows which hospital to go to depending on the event - heart failure, gunshot, you name it. It is very revealing that, whatever is wrong with her, she is being treated by her own private medical specialists in secret and, judging by the ballet-like reaction by her detail, they have dealt with this before.

Her detail knew that there was something very wrong with her and they were prepared.

When I protected her, I witnessed her irate behavior and, frankly, I don’t think anyone can operate with such uncontrollable fits of anger and not have it take a toll on a person’s health—I think that’s exactly what has resulted. I can’t help but feel sorry for her detail, because I know from personal experience that they will bear the burden for as long as their mental and physical resilience will tolerate. I bet that night they got berated for letting this "leak," but it has nothing to do with their performance and everything to do with her character.

When I worked at the White House, a man exhibited the same exact behavior as he froze inside a medical detector. On his full time nurse’s request, I held him under the armpits and stood by him until his seizure passed. He was an average American and, while it was embarrassing for him in front of all those people, I was employed to protect and serve. All he had to do was be straight with me and all was well. I expect Hillary to do the same and I expect my media to do like I did, ask what’s going on so we know how to respond.

She’s putting herself, her party, and her Secret Service detail at risk. Her health is directly tied to the health of our country and we deserve treatment."



http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/

A Secret Service agent is not qualified to diagnosis any medical condition. Accepting that as medical evidence over an examination by a qualified MD supported by medical tests and a CT Scan is a bit ridiculous.

The fact that after resting and being treated for dehydration, she was able to walk out the door of the apartment is in keeping with her doctor's diagnosis, pneumonia and overheating. A low grade fever, upper repository congestion, fatigue, and a CT Scan showing a small right middle-lobe pneumonia makes the diagnosis pretty definite. Her doctor examined her several times after the event and reports she is improving.
http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Hmmm, no, that's bullshit. You don't recover from either heat exhaustion or pneumonia in 90 minutes. When did she get a CT scan? If she got one, then let her produce it. her doctor is a paid flunky. She's the women we see in the 9/11 videos telling hillary to squeeze her hand. That's a test for neurological issues, not pneumonia. Why was Hillary even at the ceremony if she knew she had pneumonia? Why was her doctor there? There are a million things about the whole affair that don't make sense is Hillary is not lying.

There is no reason for her to produce a CT scan. Trumpets will just say it's a fake. She's already release a letter from her doctor with the CT Scan results and other test results, a lot more than Trump has produced.

http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Sure there is. She claims she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then let's see the proof. At this point we can assume everything she says is a lie. The same goes for her doctor.

Then what's the point of her presenting more documentation you're just going to claim is fake?

Everything from her doctor will be considered a lie. The official records from the hospitals she has had a stay in will considered honest, but she will never release those.

 

[Faun]

A Secret Service agent is not qualified to diagnosis any medical condition. Accepting that as medical evidence over an examination by a qualified MD supported by medical tests and a CT Scan is a bit ridiculous.

The fact that after resting and being treated for dehydration, she was able to walk out the door of the apartment is in keeping with her doctor's diagnosis, pneumonia and overheating. A low grade fever, upper repository congestion, fatigue, and a CT Scan showing a small right middle-lobe pneumonia makes the diagnosis pretty definite. Her doctor examined her several times after the event and reports she is improving.
http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Hmmm, no, that's bullshit. You don't recover from either heat exhaustion or pneumonia in 90 minutes. When did she get a CT scan? If she got one, then let her produce it. her doctor is a paid flunky. She's the women we see in the 9/11 videos telling hillary to squeeze her hand. That's a test for neurological issues, not pneumonia. Why was Hillary even at the ceremony if she knew she had pneumonia? Why was her doctor there? There are a million things about the whole affair that don't make sense is Hillary is not lying.

There is no reason for her to produce a CT scan. Trumpets will just say it's a fake. She's already release a letter from her doctor with the CT Scan results and other test results, a lot more than Trump has produced.

http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Sure there is. She claims she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then let's see the proof. At this point we can assume everything she says is a lie. The same goes for her doctor.

Then what's the point of her presenting more documentation you're just going to claim is fake?

Everything from her doctor will be considered a lie. The official records from the hospitals she has had a stay in will considered honest, but she will never release those.

There's no point in releasing those either because you will call them fake.

 

[longknife]

LOLOL

I like how when you can't prove your claims, you pretend like the burden falls upon others to prove you wrong. You convince me more and more with every post that Hillary doesn't have Parkinson's.



And Hillary is under no obligation to do any such thing. Just as the electorate is under no obligation to vote for her. If she's willing to lose votes over it, that's her choice.

The burden does fall on Hillary to prove she has no serious medical issues. Do you actually pretend to believe that she is entitled to hide such a thing from the voters? If you do, it only proves you're a Hillary butthole sucking douche bag.

I obviously can't prove to your satisfaction (that is, beyond all doubt) That Hillary has a serious medical issue. I can't force her to be examined by an independent physician or force her to turn over all her medical records. Your demands for irrefutable proof from me only proves, once again, that you're a douche bag.

Here ya go... whine away....

Clinton campaign releases new health information

(CNN) Hillary Clinton's campaign released additional medical information Wednesday after questions about her health intensified in the wake of her pneumonia diagnosis late last week.

She was diagnosed with mild, non-contagious bacterial pneumonia, her doctor said, a step the campaign took after the candidate had to take three days off the campaign trail after nearly collapsing at an event on Sunday.

According to Bardack, "The remainder of her complete physical exam was normal and she is in excellent mental condition."​

"mild, non-contagious bacterial pneumonia"

Huh, and yet many on her staff said that they also had pneumonia. Gosh, what are the odds that so many came down with pneumonia, considering it was the "non-contagious" kind?

http://64.147.104.30/blogs/ballot-b...lintons-pneumonia-also-plagued-campaign-staff

I don't believe one single bit of this. It's bullshit. Something is wrong with her and they are lying their asses off to cover it up.

There are extenuating factors which can determine if and when pneumonia is contagious. Just because it's determined not to be contagious when she was examined doesn't indicate whether or not she caught it from someone from her campaign.

And what you believe is meaningless, you have no proof to the contrary.

I called this one. I just said earlier if she releases a more current medical record, the right will simply dismiss it as fake. You guys are too predictable.

It's fun watching the rhetorical contortions you endure to defend Hillary.

Clearly someone on Shrillary's payroll out to defend her at all costs.

 

[bripat9643]

Hmmm, no, that's bullshit. You don't recover from either heat exhaustion or pneumonia in 90 minutes. When did she get a CT scan? If she got one, then let her produce it. her doctor is a paid flunky. She's the women we see in the 9/11 videos telling hillary to squeeze her hand. That's a test for neurological issues, not pneumonia. Why was Hillary even at the ceremony if she knew she had pneumonia? Why was her doctor there? There are a million things about the whole affair that don't make sense is Hillary is not lying.

There is no reason for her to produce a CT scan. Trumpets will just say it's a fake. She's already release a letter from her doctor with the CT Scan results and other test results, a lot more than Trump has produced.

http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Sure there is. She claims she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then let's see the proof. At this point we can assume everything she says is a lie. The same goes for her doctor.

Then what's the point of her presenting more documentation you're just going to claim is fake?

Everything from her doctor will be considered a lie. The official records from the hospitals she has had a stay in will considered honest, but she will never release those.

There's no point in releasing those either because you will call them fake.

So Hillary should be free to lie ad nauseum and gullible drones like you will just suck it up. Is that what you're saying?

 

[dannyboys]

I wonder how much Hillary weighs. She's packing a LOT of fat around on those hips. Can't be very good for the heart.

 

[Faun]

There is no reason for her to produce a CT scan. Trumpets will just say it's a fake. She's already release a letter from her doctor with the CT Scan results and other test results, a lot more than Trump has produced.

http://documents.latimes.com/read-letter-hillary-clintons-doctor/

Sure there is. She claims she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then let's see the proof. At this point we can assume everything she says is a lie. The same goes for her doctor.

Then what's the point of her presenting more documentation you're just going to claim is fake?

Everything from her doctor will be considered a lie. The official records from the hospitals she has had a stay in will considered honest, but she will never release those.

There's no point in releasing those either because you will call them fake.

So Hillary should be free to lie ad nauseum and gullible drones like you will just suck it up. Is that what you're saying?

First answer my question.

 

[PK1]

Politifacts are NOT facts.
For example, they alluded to the statement by Republicans that the 2009 Obama bailout of Chrysler would eventually lead to Jeeps being made in China as a lie. Guess what? Some models are being made in China now. So fuck the liars at that low information website.

WTF?
"Would eventually" cannot be evaluated as fact or false.
Politifact uses categories other than "false".
You cannot defend someone (Trump) who has 53% of their comments rated completely false.

 

[Iceweasel]

Politifacts are NOT facts.
For example, they alluded to the statement by Republicans that the 2009 Obama bailout of Chrysler would eventually lead to Jeeps being made in China as a lie. Guess what? Some models are being made in China now. So fuck the liars at that low information website.

WTF?
"Would eventually" cannot be evaluated as fact or false.
Politifact uses categories other than "false".
You cannot defend someone (Trump) who has 53% of their comments rated completely false.

Politifact? Seriously?

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