Jesus: Why is He so offensive to others?

[Meriweather]

I agree 100% with what you are saying.

Sin is only powerful over us when we are afraid to speak it out loud. There is a practical application to confessing out loud our sins to another, it removes the power that sin holds over us. That's why people feel like a weight has been lifted off of them. And it has too. Christ is carrying that load.

Thanks. I still think it is cute that non-Catholics are so concerned about what Catholics practice.

 

[ding]

I agree 100% with what you are saying.

Sin is only powerful over us when we are afraid to speak it out loud. There is a practical application to confessing out loud our sins to another, it removes the power that sin holds over us. That's why people feel like a weight has been lifted off of them. And it has too. Christ is carrying that load.

Thanks. I still think it is cute that non-Catholics are so concerned about what Catholics practice.

They are not all like that.

 

[Meriweather]

They are not all like that.

I agree. Some of my good friends and neighbors for example.

 

[BS Filter]

You're still playing games. There is no such term as "Sacrament of reconciliation".

No games. Try a Google search.

I don't have to do a google search. There is no scripture on "Sacrament of reconciliation". There's no scripture telling us to pray to Mary. No scripture on rosary beads. No scripture on nuns and priests being celibate. Etc, etc, etc.

 

[daisiesRwild]

Ah, then you also believe works have a place. Many Protestants, as you know, deny this.

What if faith does not lead to good works? Is salvation lost?

Apparently some of Jesus commands are not as important to keep as others?

Why do you keep arguing that salvation (i.e. heaven) is by faith alone? Who are you arguing with? Since there is no argument, and never has been any argument, who are you people arguing with? People who enter heaven do so by the grace of God. There is nothing anyone can do to earn God's grace (i.e., put Him ind debt to us). On the other hand faith alone is not all that is necessary for a redemptive life. Faith is a component, but faith alone in a redemptive life is rather like throwing a ball and expecting it to return on its own.

Rather, you don't want anyone there.

As I explained before, you indeed do call someone else father--the person who determined your Protestant doctrine. Catholics and Orthodox are the only denominations who trace their doctrines directly to Christ and the Apostles--who had it from God the Father.

What Catholicism teaches is that the Catholic Church can only guarantee its own teachings are The Way of Eternal Life. If people think they have found another way, then why should they care about the opinion of the Catholic Church? The Catholic Church neither condemns nor guarantees anything outside its own teachings. That judgment falls to God.

I don't need anyone else there when I confess my sin. It's just between Jesus and me, that's scriptural. I follow the teachings in the New Testament. The epistles of Paul, Peter, John, James. You can't get any closer to the truth than that. The Catholic Church is corrupt. The truth Church is every believer that puts their faith in Jesus alone, not an organization. That's Scriptural.

well put but one thing that was wrong is tht you can get closer to Jesus without scripturte and that is by develping a personal relationship with him and him sending the holy spirit he let s you know him personally

I totally agree. The baptism in the Holy Spirit is real.

it was the most intense thing that hasdever happened to me it is very real

Yes. I share my experience with people that don't believe in the experience and they look at me like I'm crazy. It's right there is the Scriptures. I have met Catholics that have experienced it. Their view of the Catholic organization totally changed afterwards.

i feel bad for people they are so lost

 

[daisiesRwild]

Show me in Scripture the "Sacrament of Reconciliation". Go ahead.

It's a Catholic secret, hiding in plain sight.

If you can't show me in the Scriptures, then I don't need it. Your Catholic organization can't save you.

the vatican and the pope are Luciferians they worship satan do some rreseach

 

[BulletProof]

We both already know that Jesus forgives us if we confess our sins to Him. Now you're playing games to deflect because you can't produce Scriptures backing up the beliefs of the Catholic Church. Lame on your part.

You must have confession confused with repentance.

 

[cnm]

The name of Jesus is powerful. Jesus is the one who will judge everyone.

Yeah? Where does it say that?

 

[cnm]

Blasphemy, shithead, is accusing Jesus of being Antichrist. Jews are Antichrist.

Jewish like the Jew, Jesus?

 

[cnm]

Because God the Father and Jesus will not coddle you in your sins.

So, is there a trinity in your god view?

 

[yiostheoy]

A while ago, it was OK to say God, but not Jesus.

Of course now, even God is frowned up. But it seems the name Jesus really riles people up. Many of those that are not believers of particularly the Christian faith seem to want to mock it and be sacrilegious

You see it everywhere, with celebrities, in music.

So, why do you think particularly Jesus, and Christianity in general, gets people so worked up?

I usually tell them I am not Jesus I am Yio.

Or I tell them Jesus has not been back for a long time.

God is just a word in English. English was only invented back in 1066 AD long after Jesus' departure.

Jesus is the Latin version of Jesus' name. He really has a different name. But you need to have studied Aramaic or Hebrew to know his real name.

Even his name in Greek in the Greek New Testament is NOT Jesus.

 

[yiostheoy]

Show me in Scripture the "Sacrament of Reconciliation". Go ahead.

It's a Catholic secret, hiding in plain sight.

If you can't show me in the Scriptures, then I don't need it. Your Catholic organization can't save you.

the vatican and the pope are Luciferians they worship satan do some rreseach

You have been drinking way too much alcohol.

 

[BS Filter]

The name of Jesus is powerful. Jesus is the one who will judge everyone.

Yeah? Where does it say that?

The Gospel of John chapter 5. There are many others, but start there. If you need more do some research.

 

[WinterBorn]

I don't think Jesus is offensive at all.

His followers, on the other hand....

"
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

 

[daisiesRwild]

I don't think Jesus is offensive at all.

His followers, on the other hand....

"
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

that would be like saying all you atheists are idiots

 

[onefour1]

Because God the Father and Jesus will not coddle you in your sins.

So, is there a trinity in your god view?

The Latter-day Saint view of God is that there are three personages in the godhead. They are separate and distinct personages each with their own spirit. God the Father and Jesus Christ have each their own bodies of flesh and bones which house their spirits. The Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit only and does not have a body. The term God usually refers to God the Father, however, it is also used to represent Jesus and the Holy Ghost. Jesus and the Holy Ghost's will is to do the will of the Father. All three members of the godhead are one in purpose and will. We do not use the word trinity to describe the godhead.

Our Bible dictionary has the following on God:

God
The supreme Governor of the universe and the Father of mankind. We learn from the revelations that have been given that there are three separate persons in the Godhead: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. From latter-day revelation we learn that the Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bone and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit without flesh and bone (D&C 130:22–23).

When one speaks of God, it is generally the Father who is referred to; that is, Elohim. All mankind are His children. The personage known as Jehovah in Old Testament times, and who is usually identified in the Old Testament as Lord (in small capitals), is the Son, known as Jesus Christ, and who is also a God. Jesus works under the direction of the Father and is in complete harmony with Him. All mankind are His brethren and sisters, He being the eldest of the spirit children of Elohim. Many of the things that the scripture says were done by God were actually done by the Lord (Jesus). Thus the scripture says that “God created the heaven and the earth” (Gen. 1:1), but we know that it was actually the Lord (Jesus) who was the creator (John 1:3, 10), or as Paul said, God created all things by Christ Jesus (Eph. 3:9). The Holy Ghost is also a God and is variously called the Holy Spirit, the Spirit, the Spirit of God, etc.

Although God created all things and is the ruler of the universe, being omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent (through His Spirit), mankind has a special relationship to Him that differentiates man from all other created things: man is literally God’s offspring, made in His image, whereas all other things are but the work of His hands (Acts 17:28–29).

The God of the scriptures is a holy being. Man is commanded to be holy because God is holy (Lev. 11:44–45; 19:2). God can be known only by revelation. He must be revealed or remain forever unknown (Mosiah 4:9). God first revealed Himself to Adam (Moses 5–6) and has repeatedly made Himself known by revelation to chosen patriarchs and prophets since that time. The present translation of John 1:18 and 1 Jn. 4:12 is misleading, for these say that no man has ever seen God. However, the scriptures state that there have been many who have seen Him. The JST corrects these items to show that no one has seen God except through faith and also that Jesus Christ is the only Way to God (JST John 1:19 [Appendix or John 1:18 note c]; JST 1 Jn. 4:12 [1 Jn. 4:12 note a]). God the Father and His Son have been manifested by voice, sight, or otherwise at various times, as at the baptism of Jesus (Matt. 3:16–17), the Transfiguration (Matt. 17:1–8), to Stephen (Acts 7:55–56), and to the Nephites (3 Ne. 11:7). The Father and the Son personally visited Joseph Smith in the Sacred Grove in the spring of 1820 near Manchester, New York, in the opening of the dispensation of the fulness of times (JS—H 1:11–20).

 

[BS Filter]

Because God the Father and Jesus will not coddle you in your sins.

So, is there a trinity in your god view?

The Latter-day Saint view of God is that there are three personages in the godhead. They are separate and distinct personages each with their own spirit. God the Father and Jesus Christ have each their own bodies of flesh and bones which house their spirits. The Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit only and does not have a body. The term God usually refers to God the Father, however, it is also used to represent Jesus and the Holy Ghost. Jesus and the Holy Ghost's will is to do the will of the Father. All three members of the godhead are one in purpose and will. We do not use the word trinity to describe the godhead.

Our Bible dictionary has the following on God:

God
The supreme Governor of the universe and the Father of mankind. We learn from the revelations that have been given that there are three separate persons in the Godhead: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. From latter-day revelation we learn that the Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bone and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit without flesh and bone (D&C 130:22–23).

When one speaks of God, it is generally the Father who is referred to; that is, Elohim. All mankind are His children. The personage known as Jehovah in Old Testament times, and who is usually identified in the Old Testament as Lord (in small capitals), is the Son, known as Jesus Christ, and who is also a God. Jesus works under the direction of the Father and is in complete harmony with Him. All mankind are His brethren and sisters, He being the eldest of the spirit children of Elohim. Many of the things that the scripture says were done by God were actually done by the Lord (Jesus). Thus the scripture says that “God created the heaven and the earth” (Gen. 1:1), but we know that it was actually the Lord (Jesus) who was the creator (John 1:3, 10), or as Paul said, God created all things by Christ Jesus (Eph. 3:9). The Holy Ghost is also a God and is variously called the Holy Spirit, the Spirit, the Spirit of God, etc.

Although God created all things and is the ruler of the universe, being omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent (through His Spirit), mankind has a special relationship to Him that differentiates man from all other created things: man is literally God’s offspring, made in His image, whereas all other things are but the work of His hands (Acts 17:28–29).

The God of the scriptures is a holy being. Man is commanded to be holy because God is holy (Lev. 11:44–45; 19:2). God can be known only by revelation. He must be revealed or remain forever unknown (Mosiah 4:9). God first revealed Himself to Adam (Moses 5–6) and has repeatedly made Himself known by revelation to chosen patriarchs and prophets since that time. The present translation of John 1:18 and 1 Jn. 4:12 is misleading, for these say that no man has ever seen God. However, the scriptures state that there have been many who have seen Him. The JST corrects these items to show that no one has seen God except through faith and also that Jesus Christ is the only Way to God (JST John 1:19 [Appendix or John 1:18 note c]; JST 1 Jn. 4:12 [1 Jn. 4:12 note a]). God the Father and His Son have been manifested by voice, sight, or otherwise at various times, as at the baptism of Jesus (Matt. 3:16–17), the Transfiguration (Matt. 17:1–8), to Stephen (Acts 7:55–56), and to the Nephites (3 Ne. 11:7). The Father and the Son personally visited Joseph Smith in the Sacred Grove in the spring of 1820 near Manchester, New York, in the opening of the dispensation of the fulness of times (JS—H 1:11–20).

Does your god have a wife?

 

[BulletProof]

Jesus is the Latin version of Jesus' name. He really has a different name. But you need to have studied Aramaic or Hebrew to know his real name.

If you weren't a shithead, you'd know you're full of shit. His name is Jesus, or Iesous.

Even his name in Greek in the Greek New Testament is NOT Jesus.[/QUOTE]

Jesus is the anglicized, English, version of Jesus' name. We speak English.

 

[onefour1]

Because God the Father and Jesus will not coddle you in your sins.

So, is there a trinity in your god view?

The Latter-day Saint view of God is that there are three personages in the godhead. They are separate and distinct personages each with their own spirit. God the Father and Jesus Christ have each their own bodies of flesh and bones which house their spirits. The Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit only and does not have a body. The term God usually refers to God the Father, however, it is also used to represent Jesus and the Holy Ghost. Jesus and the Holy Ghost's will is to do the will of the Father. All three members of the godhead are one in purpose and will. We do not use the word trinity to describe the godhead.

Our Bible dictionary has the following on God:

God
The supreme Governor of the universe and the Father of mankind. We learn from the revelations that have been given that there are three separate persons in the Godhead: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. From latter-day revelation we learn that the Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bone and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit without flesh and bone (D&C 130:22–23).

When one speaks of God, it is generally the Father who is referred to; that is, Elohim. All mankind are His children. The personage known as Jehovah in Old Testament times, and who is usually identified in the Old Testament as Lord (in small capitals), is the Son, known as Jesus Christ, and who is also a God. Jesus works under the direction of the Father and is in complete harmony with Him. All mankind are His brethren and sisters, He being the eldest of the spirit children of Elohim. Many of the things that the scripture says were done by God were actually done by the Lord (Jesus). Thus the scripture says that “God created the heaven and the earth” (Gen. 1:1), but we know that it was actually the Lord (Jesus) who was the creator (John 1:3, 10), or as Paul said, God created all things by Christ Jesus (Eph. 3:9). The Holy Ghost is also a God and is variously called the Holy Spirit, the Spirit, the Spirit of God, etc.

Although God created all things and is the ruler of the universe, being omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent (through His Spirit), mankind has a special relationship to Him that differentiates man from all other created things: man is literally God’s offspring, made in His image, whereas all other things are but the work of His hands (Acts 17:28–29).

The God of the scriptures is a holy being. Man is commanded to be holy because God is holy (Lev. 11:44–45; 19:2). God can be known only by revelation. He must be revealed or remain forever unknown (Mosiah 4:9). God first revealed Himself to Adam (Moses 5–6) and has repeatedly made Himself known by revelation to chosen patriarchs and prophets since that time. The present translation of John 1:18 and 1 Jn. 4:12 is misleading, for these say that no man has ever seen God. However, the scriptures state that there have been many who have seen Him. The JST corrects these items to show that no one has seen God except through faith and also that Jesus Christ is the only Way to God (JST John 1:19 [Appendix or John 1:18 note c]; JST 1 Jn. 4:12 [1 Jn. 4:12 note a]). God the Father and His Son have been manifested by voice, sight, or otherwise at various times, as at the baptism of Jesus (Matt. 3:16–17), the Transfiguration (Matt. 17:1–8), to Stephen (Acts 7:55–56), and to the Nephites (3 Ne. 11:7). The Father and the Son personally visited Joseph Smith in the Sacred Grove in the spring of 1820 near Manchester, New York, in the opening of the dispensation of the fulness of times (JS—H 1:11–20).

Does your god have a wife?

Yes. We believe God, through the law of eternal marriage, has a wife.

Marriage
Among the Israelites, marriage was usually preceded by a formal act of betrothal, such a contract, when once entered on, being regarded as absolutely binding. On the marriage day, the bride was escorted to her husband’s home by a procession consisting of her own companions and the “friends of the bridegroom,” or “children of the bride-chamber,” some carrying torches and others myrtle branches and chaplets of flowers. When she reached the house, words such as “Take her according to the law of Moses and of Israel” were spoken, the pair were crowned with garlands, and a marriage deed was signed. After the prescribed washing of hands and benediction, the marriage supper was held. For a year after marriage a man was released from all military service. The gospel law of marriage is partially given in Matt. 19:4–9; Mark 10:2–12; Rom. 7:2; 1 Cor. 7. Its meaning, as symbolizing the union between Christ and the Church, is explained in Eph. 5:22–32.

Latter-day revelation tells us that marriage under the law of the gospel and the holy priesthood is for eternity and that men and women thus sealed in marriage continue to have children throughout eternity. Although this concept of marriage is not fully presented in our present Bible, traces of it are found in Matt. 16:16–19; 19:3–8; 22:23–30; and Moses 4:18. However, the fullest explanation is found in D&C 132.

 

[BS Filter]

Because God the Father and Jesus will not coddle you in your sins.

So, is there a trinity in your god view?

The Latter-day Saint view of God is that there are three personages in the godhead. They are separate and distinct personages each with their own spirit. God the Father and Jesus Christ have each their own bodies of flesh and bones which house their spirits. The Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit only and does not have a body. The term God usually refers to God the Father, however, it is also used to represent Jesus and the Holy Ghost. Jesus and the Holy Ghost's will is to do the will of the Father. All three members of the godhead are one in purpose and will. We do not use the word trinity to describe the godhead.

Our Bible dictionary has the following on God:

God
The supreme Governor of the universe and the Father of mankind. We learn from the revelations that have been given that there are three separate persons in the Godhead: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. From latter-day revelation we learn that the Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bone and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit without flesh and bone (D&C 130:22–23).

When one speaks of God, it is generally the Father who is referred to; that is, Elohim. All mankind are His children. The personage known as Jehovah in Old Testament times, and who is usually identified in the Old Testament as Lord (in small capitals), is the Son, known as Jesus Christ, and who is also a God. Jesus works under the direction of the Father and is in complete harmony with Him. All mankind are His brethren and sisters, He being the eldest of the spirit children of Elohim. Many of the things that the scripture says were done by God were actually done by the Lord (Jesus). Thus the scripture says that “God created the heaven and the earth” (Gen. 1:1), but we know that it was actually the Lord (Jesus) who was the creator (John 1:3, 10), or as Paul said, God created all things by Christ Jesus (Eph. 3:9). The Holy Ghost is also a God and is variously called the Holy Spirit, the Spirit, the Spirit of God, etc.

Although God created all things and is the ruler of the universe, being omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent (through His Spirit), mankind has a special relationship to Him that differentiates man from all other created things: man is literally God’s offspring, made in His image, whereas all other things are but the work of His hands (Acts 17:28–29).

The God of the scriptures is a holy being. Man is commanded to be holy because God is holy (Lev. 11:44–45; 19:2). God can be known only by revelation. He must be revealed or remain forever unknown (Mosiah 4:9). God first revealed Himself to Adam (Moses 5–6) and has repeatedly made Himself known by revelation to chosen patriarchs and prophets since that time. The present translation of John 1:18 and 1 Jn. 4:12 is misleading, for these say that no man has ever seen God. However, the scriptures state that there have been many who have seen Him. The JST corrects these items to show that no one has seen God except through faith and also that Jesus Christ is the only Way to God (JST John 1:19 [Appendix or John 1:18 note c]; JST 1 Jn. 4:12 [1 Jn. 4:12 note a]). God the Father and His Son have been manifested by voice, sight, or otherwise at various times, as at the baptism of Jesus (Matt. 3:16–17), the Transfiguration (Matt. 17:1–8), to Stephen (Acts 7:55–56), and to the Nephites (3 Ne. 11:7). The Father and the Son personally visited Joseph Smith in the Sacred Grove in the spring of 1820 near Manchester, New York, in the opening of the dispensation of the fulness of times (JS—H 1:11–20).

Does your god have a wife?

Yes. We believe God, through the law of eternal marriage, has a wife.

Marriage
Among the Israelites, marriage was usually preceded by a formal act of betrothal, such a contract, when once entered on, being regarded as absolutely binding. On the marriage day, the bride was escorted to her husband’s home by a procession consisting of her own companions and the “friends of the bridegroom,” or “children of the bride-chamber,” some carrying torches and others myrtle branches and chaplets of flowers. When she reached the house, words such as “Take her according to the law of Moses and of Israel” were spoken, the pair were crowned with garlands, and a marriage deed was signed. After the prescribed washing of hands and benediction, the marriage supper was held. For a year after marriage a man was released from all military service. The gospel law of marriage is partially given in Matt. 19:4–9; Mark 10:2–12; Rom. 7:2; 1 Cor. 7. Its meaning, as symbolizing the union between Christ and the Church, is explained in Eph. 5:22–32.

Latter-day revelation tells us that marriage under the law of the gospel and the holy priesthood is for eternity and that men and women thus sealed in marriage continue to have children throughout eternity. Although this concept of marriage is not fully presented in our present Bible, traces of it are found in Matt. 16:16–19; 19:3–8; 22:23–30; and Moses 4:18. However, the fullest explanation is found in D&C 132.

Well, of course we disagree. Are you familiar with the first chapter of Galatians, even if an angel delivers a different Gospel than Paul preached, let him be accursed. I believe the Bible to be the complete Word of God. Doesn't Mormonism also teach there are other gods with other planets? This seems to contradict the Bible. If mormonism is true, then the Bible is a lie. We believe there is one God, the Creator of everything.