"Jesus was a Liberal... Hitler was a Conservative"

The ignorant and uninformed, the majority of Americans, actually believe Jesus was political. Jesus associatedwith everyone, a big tent mentality, and that is far away from Republicans and Democrats. However, to suggest someone as radical as Jesus was a "conservative" is absurd.
The problem with partisan hack Americans these days is they allow leaders in their church to dictate to them who to vote for politically and why. And if they differ they are told they are not Christian enough because of their decision.
In the 50s and 60s we saw Republicans blasting Democrats for pushing their religous values for civil rights and other issues. Now we see Democrats doing the same because Republicans want to push their "moral" agenda on others.
If this has not been Exhibit A why religion has NO place in politics then nothing is.
 
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Jesus taught a message of personal responsibility holding people accountable for their choices.

I don't see that. He said that all you have to do is believe in him and you will go to heaven.

So theoratically if Hitler a day before he died believed in jesus he would have gone to heaven.

He said that he is the way, the truth, life. He didn't specify HOW one gets to heaven, but only that he was the road to get there. Some of his followers drew certain conclusions from his teachings, but none basically suggested that believing in Jesus involved anything other than believing what he taught. Therefore one who 'believed' would know his sins and would regret them and would have repented of them and would have accepted the grace of God to turn his mind, heart, and soul in a different direction. The Gospel (good news) is that we are not forever condemned by our sins but there is a way to turn it all around. And that can come at any stage of our life no matter what we may have done. Even for a Hitler. Or a Foxfyre. Or a Hellokitty. Or a Cmike. Jesus as God is bigger and more powerful than anything we might choose to do here on Earth and can overcome that if we let him.

Evenso, Jesus spent a whole lot more time speaking of expectations of personal ethics and behavior than he spent on the process of getting to heaven. A serious Bible scholar has to conclude that he put a great deal of importance on our existence in the here and now as well as on the hereafter. But then eternal life suggests a continuous process doesn't it. So the here and now is simply one phase of the whole.

I don't want to pick on your religion. In my religion there are consequences for your actions. And it doesn't matter if Hitler "saw the light" right before he died he would still be going to hell.
 
☭proletarian☭;1968041 said:
God commanded his people to kill babies, remember?

Then there are miscarriages...


Shouldn't there be funerals for miscarriages?

Nah. They're going to burn in eternal hellfire forever and ever and ever since they were never Baptized with majick water and never accepted Kryst as their Lawd and Save yer....

Ya can't make this stuff up.

Except that they did :eusa_eh:
 
☭proletarian☭;1968041 said:
Again... "Free Will"...

God doesn't Kill Babies... Inconvenienced Humans do.

:)

peace...


God commanded his people to kill babies, remember?

Then there are miscarriages...

Give some Context to your Pre-Jesus Old Testament Claim...

:)

peace...

Google: old testament genocides


Not my problem if I know ore about your religion than you do.
 
Well.. Here in the Seattle area, I have not seen that bumper sticker.. The one that is popular here is:

Evangelical Christians are America's Taliban

As for Christ and Hitler?? Well?? Hitler was a christian.. So on that score he was conservative.. He was far from Liberal..

As for Christ?? Well.. Obviously completely liberal..

And when thou pray, thou shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in
the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou pray, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret… [Matthew 6:6 & 7]

Can't get much more liberal than that..

Love your neighbor as yourself. .[Matthew 22:39] So in everything, do to others as you would have them do to you. [Matthew 7:12.] If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. [Matthew 19:21]

Hmmm... Love your neighbor?? Hmmmm?? Where is the part about hating homosexuals?? Did Christ say that somewhere??? Hmmmm.. Nope.. He didn't..

In the temple courts [Jesus] found men selling cattle, sheep and doves and other sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. [John 2:14 & 15.] Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. [Luke 12.15.] Truly, I say unto you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. [Matthew 19:23] You cannot serve both God and Money. [Matthew 6:24.]

Hmmm.. More conservatives were caught in the Jack Abromoff scandal.. Conservatives are in the pockets of big insurance to kill health reform.. Why are you all worried about money?? Being rich means you can go to hell.. I have yet to see one church or christian company labeled as a non profit.. Hell they even got a tax exemption so they don't have to pay taxes.. I am not sure christ would approve of that..

Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. [Matthew 5:6] Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy [Matthew 5:7] But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. [Matthew 6:15]

Hmmm?? That doesn't look like a conservative value either.. Aren't you guys all for torture and crap and the death penalty??

Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21]

Blamo!! No death penalty..

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] Resist
not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39] I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute you; [Matthew 5:44]

Wow.. Peacemakers?? Where were these guys in the Bush administration before we invaded Iraq?? DOH!!! Man!! I forgot!! Bush and company were conservatives!! Sorry.. That is a liberal view!!

Conservatives are against equal rights for all.. Christ was not.. Hitler didn't care about rights.. Guess that settles it..

Hitler was indeed a conservative and Christ was a liberal..

And Evangelical Christians are America's Taliban..
 
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☭proletarian☭;1969670 said:
☭proletarian☭;1968041 said:
God commanded his people to kill babies, remember?

Then there are miscarriages...

Give some Context to your Pre-Jesus Old Testament Claim...

:)

peace...

Google: old testament genocides


Not my problem if I know ore about your religion than you do.

The HELL you do... And you Missed my Point because you were too Busy Celebrating a Victory that didn't Happen...

Read it again... As MANY Times as it Takes.

:)

peace...
 
☭proletarian☭;1969670 said:
Give some Context to your Pre-Jesus Old Testament Claim...

:)

peace...

Google: old testament genocides


Not my problem if I know ore about your religion than you do.

The HELL you do... And you Missed my Point because you were too Busy Celebrating a Victory that didn't Happen...

Read it again... As MANY Times as it Takes.

:)

peace...

The children of Egypt were ordered to die.. He is right..
 
As for Christ and Hitler?? Well?? Hitler was a christian.. So on that score he was conservative.. He was far from Liberal..

I am not even Entertaing the Rest of your TRIPE, you Disgusting Stain of a Person...

Hoping the Liberal "Christian" from Earlier will Return and give you the Slapping you Deserve.

:)

peace...
 
☭proletarian☭;1969670 said:
Google: old testament genocides


Not my problem if I know ore about your religion than you do.

The HELL you do... And you Missed my Point because you were too Busy Celebrating a Victory that didn't Happen...

Read it again... As MANY Times as it Takes.

:)

peace...

The children of Egypt were ordered to die.. He is right..

You are a Shitstain and you don't get what my Point is either... And it was NOT Directed at you...

Let a Person who doesn't Compare their Fellow Americans DIRECTLY to Jihadists, Answer the Question, you Fuck.

:)

peace...
 
Hmmm... Love your neighbor?? Hmmmm?? Where is the part about hating homosexuals?? Did Christ say that somewhere??? Hmmmm.. Nope.. He didn't..

Did Jesus say anything about Hating People who Fuck Sheep?...

Because his Father Listed those People in Levitcal Moral Law together with Homosexuals and Described them Worse.

Nowhere in the Bible, from Old to New, is Homosexuality Referred to as ANYTHING but an Abomination and Sin.

:)

peace...
 
Wow.. Peacemakers?? Where were these guys in the Bush administration before we invaded Iraq?? DOH!!! Man!! I forgot!! Bush and company were conservatives!! Sorry.. That is a liberal view!!

Obama has Expanded (43)'s Warring... Expanded his Nuke Weapons Programs... Expanded Drone Attacks...

Was I going to be Hearing your Attacks of Barry soon, or are you a Dishonest Liberal like FAR too Many before you?...

:)

peace...
 
The HELL you do... And you Missed my Point because you were too Busy Celebrating a Victory that didn't Happen...

Read it again... As MANY Times as it Takes.

:)

peace...

The children of Egypt were ordered to die.. He is right..

You are a Shitstain and you don't get what my Point is either... And it was NOT Directed at you...

Let a Person who doesn't Compare their Fellow Americans DIRECTLY to Jihadists, Answer the Question, you Fuck.

:)

peace...

And somehow comparing your fellow americans to hitler is better??

Talk about a double standard.. Guess that means your full of shit!!
 
Hitler was no Christian.
BEWARE of anyone and everyone that proudly and continuously calls and labels themselves Christian.
If you really are a Christian you never, ever have to tell anyone.
Folks will know it by your ACTIONS.
 
The children of Egypt were ordered to die.. He is right..

You are a Shitstain and you don't get what my Point is either... And it was NOT Directed at you...

Let a Person who doesn't Compare their Fellow Americans DIRECTLY to Jihadists, Answer the Question, you Fuck.

:)

peace...

And somehow comparing your fellow americans to hitler is better??

Talk about a double standard.. Guess that means your full of shit!!

You are one Simple Son-of-a-Bitch...

I did NO such thing.

:)

peace...
 
Hitler was no Christian.
BEWARE of anyone and everyone that proudly and continuously calls and labels themselves Christian.
If you really are a Christian you never, ever have to tell anyone.
Folks will know it by your ACTIONS.

Hilter was the same kind of Christian that Gary Oldman wanted to be in the Book of Eli...

:)

peace...
 
By definition, Hitler was a SOCIALIST. He had both conservative and liberal leanings, so did Jesus. So do most people...
 

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