"Jesus was a Liberal... Hitler was a Conservative"

[☭proletarian☭]

Ah, I see. So Dave's another idiot who sees the SN, can't read the user title, and never read any of my posts in the past where I've taken to attacking Marx, the revolutionary and Utopian socialists, Stalin...

 

[Misty]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

In the words of Ghandi: I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

That's very true. What's even funnier is that these non-believers celebrate christmas. You know damn good and well that these hypocritical clowns NEVER turn down a christmas gift.

After all, in the liberal mind, if it's free........GRAB IT!

 

[Care4all]

pretty much....

all liberals fit in to one definition, one mold and
all conservatives fit in to one definition, one mold...

and there is no individuality amongst the individuals of the groups...

ie: you are a liberal, so you ''must be'' prochoice...
you are a conservative so you must be prolife....crapola.

 

[Care4all]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

That's very true. What's even funnier is that these non-believers celebrate christmas. You know damn good and well that these hypocritical clowns NEVER turn down a christmas gift.

After all, in the liberal mind, if it's free........GRAB IT!

that broad brush you are painting with has a bunch of crud in it....you need to clean it up.

YOU are not suppose to judge the sins/salvation of others ya know, not unless you are free from sin yourself, then and only then, you can throw the first stone or only then you would be worthy of such.

Jesus was liberal, a radical liberal of His time....that is simply fact....I am not trying to ''use'' it for any political reason or gain....it is just the truth....Jesus was very, very liberal for His time....radical enough, for authorities of the Jews and Romans to have him killed.

WHY is this SO HARD for republicans to accept it as it is....on this?

I AM A LIBERAL and in NO WAY come close to your and others, painting of them.

care

 

[Misty]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

In the words of Ghandi: I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

This quote just proves how little ghandi understood Christ and Christians.

And how little liberals know about christ. Christ was divine. He was God. He was perfect. He was holy.

Christians are just flawed people who worship Christ the God.

 

[RodISHI]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

Jesus was a liberal but not the way most some posters think. Even many Christians that believe on Jesus have not read nor do they understand that the Old and New Testament is applicable.

The Old Testament clearly states "freewill" many times. It would be a place for any that are interested to start looking. Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV

As far as charity goes, it is not an issue to be taken by force. Force is also mentioned in the Bible and Torah repeatedly. If one studies this they will find that evil persons take what is not rightfully theirs by force. Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV

Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

 

[Foxfyre]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

Jesus was a liberal but not the way most some posters think. Even many Christians that believe on Jesus have not read nor do they understand that the Old and New Testament is applicable.

The Old Testament clearly states "freewill" many times. It would be a place for any that are interested to start looking. Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV

As far as charity goes, it is not an issue to be taken by force. Force is also mentioned in the Bible and Torah repeatedly. If one studies this they will find that evil persons take what is not rightfully theirs by force. Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV

Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Jesus was what would now be defined as a 'Classical Liberal' which is very close to the modern American conservative. The Classical Liberal is very big on limited government and also on personal responsibility and accountability. The Classical Liberal keeps what works and throws out what doesn't. S/he fixes what needs to be fixed and leaves alone that which is efficient, effective, edifying, or has proven its worth. The Classical Liberal will never hold on to something just because it has always been done that way, but neither does he advocate change just for the sake of change or because somebody doesn't want to play by the existing rules.

In other words, Classical Liberalism advocates freedom of choice in all matters that do not infringe on the rights of others along with a healthy dose of common sense morality and a social contract that provides practical choice and opportunity for all. It assumes nobody'ss right to be rich or even comfortable, but neither does it despise the poor nor those who have achieved much.

That was pretty much Jesus's philosophy. It no way is even close to the mindset of the modern American liberal.

 

[mal]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

They Hate Jesus also... They like to Irritate Conservatives and Christians by Lying about who Jesus was...



peace...

 

[Foxfyre]

No, no, no!... Jesus was a Liberal, and he was Pro-Choice on Abortion...

Hilter was Anti-Abortion...



peace...

so that's it? the term liberal or conservative is defined by Abortion laws in this country???

Of course not...

But you Understand the Point, Correct?...



peace...

Even it it was defined by abortion laws, some show a deplorable lack of knowledge of both the Scriptures and world history.

The Gospels according to Matthew and Luke are quite explicit that the child in the womb was a person, and Jesus speaking of the children was adament that it would be better for somebody to have never been born than to have him harm one of the little ones. That doesn't sound like a pro-abortionist to me.

But re Hitler's position on abortion, I don't know anything about this site, but they have the history at least mostly right:

Hitler and Abortion

When the Nazis came to power in 1933 one of the first acts Hitler did was to legalize abortion. By 1935 Germany with 65 million people was the place where over 500,000 abortions were being performed each year. Although Hitler and his government encourged Aryan women to produce a lot of children, he left the matter of abortion and all its facets in the hands of a decidely pro- abortion medical establishment. Even in the midst of Nazi propaganda aimed at increasing the Aryan population, scores of Aryan women still chose to abort their unborn children. The medical publication Deutsches Aerzleblatt reported the abortions in Germany each year reached a half-million.

Further, a Nazi decree of October 19, 1941 established abortion on demand as the official policy of Poland. Hitler, however, expressed dissatisfaction with this policy. Abortion, he believed, should NOT be limited to Poland. He therefore ordered that abortion be expanded to all populations under the control of the "Ministry of the Occupied Territories of the East."

On July 22, 1942, the Fuhrer exhibited a highly positive attitude towards abortion as an indispensable method of dealing with the non-German populations in countries under Nazi control. "In view of the large families of the native populations," he asserted, "it could only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible." Hitler also personally announced that he "would personally shoot" any "such idiot" who "tried to put into practice such an order (forbidding abortion) in the occupied Eastern territories.
Hitler Pro-Abortion

I think few people probably need much education on what Hitler was willing to do to born children he considered expendable or unworthy.

 

[Care4all]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

They Hate Jesus also... They like to Irritate Conservatives and Christians by Lying about who Jesus was...



peace...

what a crock of baby poop Mal....sheesh, i am liberal and a Christian, my family as well and almost every democrat that i know in real life, with the exception of a handful of Jewish friends, are Christian....maybe they got a 'thing' with not associating themselves with Christians on the right, that could be....but they ARE Christians as much as you all on the right, that by MOUTH, claim to be.

 

[DiamondDave]

Ah, I see. So Dave's another idiot who sees the SN, can't read the user title, and never read any of my posts in the past where I've taken to attacking Marx, the revolutionary and Utopian socialists, Stalin...

Yet you promote the pillars of control based communism... while trying to disguise it with the false belief of communism being applicable in some democracy.... you are in fact nothing more than a little deluded, self-appointed know it all... sort of like the old anarchism proponent morons of the 80's, and how anarchism is a completely workable system of good will in running a nation.... except now communism is the new trend of the university 'thinkers' whose Napoleonic complexes keep them from being productive in the real world

 

[Foxfyre]

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

They Hate Jesus also... They like to Irritate Conservatives and Christians by Lying about who Jesus was...



peace...

what a crock of baby poop Mal....sheesh, i am liberal and a Christian, my family as well and almost every democrat that i know in real life, with the exception of a handful of Jewish friends, are Christian....maybe they got a 'thing' with not associating themselves with Christians on the right, that could be....but they ARE Christians as much as you all on the right, that by MOUTH, claim to be.

I agree 100% that it is stupid and ignorant to dump all liberals into the same pot as if they are all identical peas in a pod.

So you probably understand why conservatives object to being all tarred with the same brushes too.

The truth is that not a single one of us is a saint or without sin and we all sooner or later demonstrate our feet of clay. We've never elected a perfect person to high office either and never will. But whether or not we have the strength and courage to live up to them in all cases, there are certain principles and standards that are worth defending. Conservatives believe in one set of principles and standards and liberals believe in another. Occasionally those even overlap.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Ah, I see. So Dave's another idiot who sees the SN, can't read the user title, and never read any of my posts in the past where I've taken to attacking Marx, the revolutionary and Utopian socialists, Stalin...

Yet you promote the pillars of control based communism...

You need to go read some of the threads I've been in

while trying to disguise it with the false belief of communism being applicable in some democracy....

Communism is a democratic system.

you are in fact nothing more than a little deluded, self-appointed know it all... sort of like the old anarchism proponent morons of the 80's, and how anarchism is a completely workable system of good will in running a nation....

Anarchy isn't a system at all.

 

[CMike]

Jesus taught a message of personal responsibility holding people accountable for their choices.

I don't see that. He said that all you have to do is believe in him and you will go to heaven.

So theoratically if Hitler a day before he died believed in jesus he would have gone to heaven.

 

[Foxfyre]

Jesus taught a message of personal responsibility holding people accountable for their choices.

I don't see that. He said that all you have to do is believe in him and you will go to heaven.

So theoratically if Hitler a day before he died believed in jesus he would have gone to heaven.

He said that he is the way, the truth, life. He didn't specify HOW one gets to heaven, but only that he was the road to get there. Some of his followers drew certain conclusions from his teachings, but none basically suggested that believing in Jesus involved anything other than believing what he taught. Therefore one who 'believed' would know his sins and would regret them and would have repented of them and would have accepted the grace of God to turn his mind, heart, and soul in a different direction. The Gospel (good news) is that we are not forever condemned by our sins but there is a way to turn it all around. And that can come at any stage of our life no matter what we may have done. Even for a Hitler. Or a Foxfyre. Or a Hellokitty. Or a Cmike. Jesus as God is bigger and more powerful than anything we might choose to do here on Earth and can overcome that if we let him.

Evenso, Jesus spent a whole lot more time speaking of expectations of personal ethics and behavior than he spent on the process of getting to heaven. A serious Bible scholar has to conclude that he put a great deal of importance on our existence in the here and now as well as on the hereafter. But then eternal life suggests a continuous process doesn't it. So the here and now is simply one phase of the whole.

 

[Avatar4321]

well, i think the main premise of Christianity as a religion is that Christ took the punishment and suffering and He sacrificed himself and died for the sins of everyone else, so that we would not be held accountable for our own dirty deeds....our own sins.... HOW is that CONSERVATIVE in nature or in any manner supporting our own personal responsibility?

NOT that i don't believe that God would like to see us all prosper from our own toils, from our own work...I do believe this....

BUT proletarian does have a good point....Christ and the apostles lived day to day, by handouts from strangers for a good part of their lives....

And no, I do not think Christ was a Democrat of today nor do I think he was a Republican of today....but I do believe he was liberal and against the authoritarian leaders of his religion and they had him killed for his radical liberalism of the time.

How on earth can you listen to someone preach repentence and conclude that they are not encouraging people to be held accountable for their mistakes? How do you repent if you dont take personal responsibility?

 

[Avatar4321]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

This cracks me up. Liberals hate Christians but they are dang sure that Jesus was a liberal.

Well, like many leftists, they are self haters.

 

[Misty]

It is ridiculous to argue about Jesus' politics

"The message of Christ is that all people are sinners. we do not have the ability to live in total perfection. You see if we were perfect we would not have need of the Savior."