Jaffa, never a city of Palestine

In a rational universe, no it wouldn't. But people control the future with the past. If you can change the history, then you can redirect the future.

I find it odd that the same people who advocate "there never was ever any Palestine" don't advocate giving America back to the Native Americans.

I mean, if their basing their anti-Palestinian rhetoric on there never being such a nation before, then it would logically stand that they would be against the formation of America as well.

Personally, I don't think they've earned a completely independent nation. But the key word is earned. I'm not basing it on whose great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather squatted where first. All that matters is their actions. Not who did what where first going back to the frigging ancient Roman times.

You know less than zero about the subject matter, so, why even waste bandwidth with your inane scribblings?

Palestine was a Roman invention. Unless you can prove Arabs are Italian, you're fucked:lol:

I think I just proved that I know more than you.

And you just proved the point I was making. A point which, unawares to you, went flying over your head.

Good day.
 
I find it odd that the same people who advocate "there never was ever any Palestine" don't advocate giving America back to the Native Americans.

I mean, if their basing their anti-Palestinian rhetoric on there never being such a nation before, then it would logically stand that they would be against the formation of America as well.

Personally, I don't think they've earned a completely independent nation. But the key word is earned. I'm not basing it on whose great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather squatted where first. All that matters is their actions. Not who did what where first going back to the frigging ancient Roman times.

You know less than zero about the subject matter, so, why even waste bandwidth with your inane scribblings?

Palestine was a Roman invention. Unless you can prove Arabs are Italian, you're fucked:lol:

I think I just proved that I know more than you.

And you just proved the point I was making. A point which, unawares to you, went flying over your head.

Good day.

You proved you're an uninformed and delusional birdbrain. Go to mommy, stupid little boy
 
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In a rational universe, no it wouldn't. But people control the future with the past. If you can change the history, then you can redirect the future.

I find it odd that the same people who advocate "there never was ever any Palestine" don't advocate giving America back to the Native Americans.

I mean, if their basing their anti-Palestinian rhetoric on there never being such a nation before, then it would logically stand that they would be against the formation of America as well.

Birdbrain, a "Palestinian" nation has never existed in history. Pre-Islam, Arabs were just Arabs. With the inception of Islam, Arabs have identified as Muslims.

So-called Palestinians never even existed prior to 1967. :lol:

Arabs readily acknowledge Palestinians are a fiction...

Former PLO Leader Zuheir Mohsen...
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Arab American Journalist Joe Farah...
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.

Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.
Myths of the Middle East


Arab Commentator Azmi Bishara...
Well, I dont think there is a Palestinian nation at all. I think there is an Arab nation. I always thought so and I did not change my mind. I do not think there is a Palestinian nation, I think its a colonialist invention - Palestinian nation. When were there any Palestinians? Where did it come from? I think there is an Arab nation. I never turned to be a Palestinian nationalist, despite of my decisive struggle against the occupation. I think that until the end of the 19th century, Palestine was the south of Greater Syria.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3n5-yG-6dU[/ame]
 
You know less than zero about the subject matter, so, why even waste bandwidth with your inane scribblings?

Palestine was a Roman invention. Unless you can prove Arabs are Italian, you're fucked:lol:

I think I just proved that I know more than you.

And you just proved the point I was making. A point which, unawares to you, went flying over your head.

Good day.

You proved you're an uninformed birdbrain. Go to mommy, stupid little boy

All you do is copy and paste. And then insult others with very uncreative and unimaginative insults.

It doesn't take much brain power to do that. I don't even think it would take more than 3 of Borel's monkeys to punch out what you write here.

And when presented with just how lacking in logic the stance that you advocate is, all you do is squawk like a wounded and wing-shot Macaw about how stupid other people are because they don't agree with you.

I think we can all see who the uninformed is here. :thup:
 
In a rational universe, no it wouldn't. But people control the future with the past. If you can change the history, then you can redirect the future.

I find it odd that the same people who advocate "there never was ever any Palestine" don't advocate giving America back to the Native Americans.

I mean, if their basing their anti-Palestinian rhetoric on there never being such a nation before, then it would logically stand that they would be against the formation of America as well.

Birdbrain, a "Palestinian" nation has never existed in history. Pre-Islam, Arabs were just Arabs. With the inception of Islam, Arabs have identified as Muslims.

So-called Palestinians never even existed prior to 1967. :lol:

Arabs readily acknowledge Palestinians are a fiction...

Former PLO Leader Zuheir Mohsen...

Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Arab American Journalist Joe Farah...
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.

Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.
Myths of the Middle East


Arab Commentator Azmi Bishara...
Well, I dont think there is a Palestinian nation at all. I think there is an Arab nation. I always thought so and I did not change my mind. I do not think there is a Palestinian nation, I think its a colonialist invention - Palestinian nation. When were there any Palestinians? Where did it come from? I think there is an Arab nation. I never turned to be a Palestinian nationalist, despite of my decisive struggle against the occupation. I think that until the end of the 19th century, Palestine was the south of Greater Syria.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3n5-yG-6dU[/ame]

Why are you anti-American?
 
I think I just proved that I know more than you.

And you just proved the point I was making. A point which, unawares to you, went flying over your head.

Good day.

You proved you're an uninformed birdbrain. Go to mommy, stupid little boy

All you do is copy and paste. And then insult others with very uncreative and unimaginative insults.

It doesn't take much brain power to do that. I don't even think it would take more than 3 of Borel's monkeys to punch out what you write here.

And when presented with just how lacking in logic the stance that you advocate is, all you do is squawk like a wounded and wing-shot Macaw about how stupid other people are because they don't agree with you.

I think we can all see who the uninformed is here. :thup:

You have zero knowledge of the subject matter. Despite your attempts to deflect, you are unable to factually refute me.
 
You proved you're an uninformed birdbrain. Go to mommy, stupid little boy

All you do is copy and paste. And then insult others with very uncreative and unimaginative insults.

It doesn't take much brain power to do that. I don't even think it would take more than 3 of Borel's monkeys to punch out what you write here.

And when presented with just how lacking in logic the stance that you advocate is, all you do is squawk like a wounded and wing-shot Macaw about how stupid other people are because they don't agree with you.

I think we can all see who the uninformed is here. :thup:

You have zero knowledge of the subject matter. Despite your attempts to deflect, you are unable to factually refute me.

You've just proven that you don't even bother to read what people write here.

I was never trying to refute you, imbecile. I was saying it doesn't matter.
 
All you do is copy and paste. And then insult others with very uncreative and unimaginative insults.

It doesn't take much brain power to do that. I don't even think it would take more than 3 of Borel's monkeys to punch out what you write here.

And when presented with just how lacking in logic the stance that you advocate is, all you do is squawk like a wounded and wing-shot Macaw about how stupid other people are because they don't agree with you.

I think we can all see who the uninformed is here. :thup:

You have zero knowledge of the subject matter. Despite your attempts to deflect, you are unable to factually refute me.

You've just proven that you don't even bother to read what people write here.

I was never trying to refute you, imbecile. I was saying it doesn't matter.

History doesn't matter to you because you have not studied it, rendering you a fool
 
You have zero knowledge of the subject matter. Despite your attempts to deflect, you are unable to factually refute me.

You've just proven that you don't even bother to read what people write here.

I was never trying to refute you, imbecile. I was saying it doesn't matter.

History doesn't matter to you because you have not studied it, rendering you a fool

Incorrect. Again.

Based on history, combined with logic, the fact that there has never been an independent Palestinian state is not a solely sufficient reason to deny them such now.
 
You've just proven that you don't even bother to read what people write here.

I was never trying to refute you, imbecile. I was saying it doesn't matter.

History doesn't matter to you because you have not studied it, rendering you a fool

Incorrect. Again.

Based on history, combined with logic, the fact that there has never been an independent Palestinian state is not a solely sufficient reason to deny them such now.

There has never been a Palestinian nation. Though, you wouldn't know this because you're uninformed. As I have instructed you, pre-Islam, Arabs were Arabs. With the inception of Islam, Arabs have identified as Muslims.

There are nearly 30 Arab states and 60 Muslim states.

You embarrass yourself with ignorance of the subject matter.
 
History doesn't matter to you because you have not studied it, rendering you a fool

Incorrect. Again.

Based on history, combined with logic, the fact that there has never been an independent Palestinian state is not a solely sufficient reason to deny them such now.

There has never been a Palestinian nation. Though, you wouldn't know this because you're uninformed. As I have instructed you, pre-Islam, Arabs were Arabs. With the inception of Islam, Arabs have identified as Muslims.

Prior to Israeli statehood, Jews, not Arabs, were known as Palestinians

There are nearly 30 Arab states and 60 Muslim states.

You embarrass yourself with ignorance of the subject matter.

Once again, you make a fool of yourself.

I said:
the fact that there has never been an independent Palestinian state

And you reply that I don't know that there never has been an independent Palestinian state?

All you do is cut, paste, are unimaginative and lack creativity, and you do not even bother to read that to which you are replying.
 
Incorrect. Again.

Based on history, combined with logic, the fact that there has never been an independent Palestinian state is not a solely sufficient reason to deny them such now.

There has never been a Palestinian nation. Though, you wouldn't know this because you're uninformed. As I have instructed you, pre-Islam, Arabs were Arabs. With the inception of Islam, Arabs have identified as Muslims.

Prior to Israeli statehood, Jews, not Arabs, were known as Palestinians

There are nearly 30 Arab states and 60 Muslim states.

You embarrass yourself with ignorance of the subject matter.

Once again, you make a fool of yourself.

I said:
the fact that there has never been an independent Palestinian state

And you reply that I don't know that there never has been an independent Palestinian state?

All you do is cut, paste, are unimaginative and lack creativity, and you do not even bother to read that to which you are replying.

There has never in history been an independent Palestinian country. There has never in history been a Palestinian nation.

Palestinians are merely Arabs. There is no Palestinian ethnicity. There is no Palestinian religion. They are Muslims, for the most part.

There is no difference between Palestinians and Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, Saudis or any other Arabs.

You're so uninformed, it's not even funny. But, I still laugh at you:lol:
 
I'll use simpler words this time. Maybe it will sink it.

There never has been an independent Palestinian State. Ever.

However, that sole reason is not enough to deny them a state.

Therefore, the fact that they have never had an independent state doesn't matter.
 
I'll use simpler words this time. Maybe it will sink it.

There never has been an independent Palestinian State. Ever.

However, that sole reason is not enough to deny them a state.

Therefore, the fact that they have never had an independent state doesn't matter.

That Palestinians are not a people distinguished from the 350 million Arabs living in nearly 30 Arab countries, including Jordan whose population is mostly Palestinian, is sufficient reason for denying them statehood.

Let's make another Jewish state, instead.
 
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There has never been a Palestinian nation. Though, you wouldn't know this because you're uninformed. As I have instructed you, pre-Islam, Arabs were Arabs. With the inception of Islam, Arabs have identified as Muslims.

Prior to Israeli statehood, Jews, not Arabs, were known as Palestinians

There are nearly 30 Arab states and 60 Muslim states.

You embarrass yourself with ignorance of the subject matter.

Once again, you make a fool of yourself.

I said:
the fact that there has never been an independent Palestinian state

And you reply that I don't know that there never has been an independent Palestinian state?

All you do is cut, paste, are unimaginative and lack creativity, and you do not even bother to read that to which you are replying.

There has never in history been an independent Palestinian country. There has never in history been a Palestinian nation.

Palestinians are merely Arabs. There is no Palestinian ethnicity. There is no Palestinian religion. They are Muslims, for the most part.

There is no difference between Palestinians and Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, Saudis or any other Arabs.

You're so uninformed, it's not even funny. But, I still laugh at you:lol:

What difference does all that make?
 
Once again, you make a fool of yourself.

I said:


And you reply that I don't know that there never has been an independent Palestinian state?

All you do is cut, paste, are unimaginative and lack creativity, and you do not even bother to read that to which you are replying.

There has never in history been an independent Palestinian country. There has never in history been a Palestinian nation.

Palestinians are merely Arabs. There is no Palestinian ethnicity. There is no Palestinian religion. They are Muslims, for the most part.

There is no difference between Palestinians and Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, Saudis or any other Arabs.

You're so uninformed, it's not even funny. But, I still laugh at you:lol:

What difference does all that make?

You have zero reputational points, so, shut the fk up. :lol:
 

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