It’s too late for a two-state solution in Israel and Palestine

[fanger]

If one wished to sum up Jewish morality in one phrase, it would read as follows: “All is moral which brings advantage.”

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, the analogy would be the French allowing Germans to vote in Alsace-Lorraine.

The Germans in Alsace Lorraine do vote in French elections. They received French citizenship after WW1.

The Germans in Alsace Lorraine do vote in French elections.

Only the ones who became French citizens, the ones who weren't deported.
Arab citizens in Israel get to vote in Israeli elections.
The ones in the West Bank, the ones who aren't citizens, don't.
Just like the Germans in Germany don't vote in Alsace-Lorraine.

Without a Palestinian state, Israel will either have to give the right to vote to Palestinians or become an apartheid state like South Africa once was.

They should ship them all to Syria, just like many Germans were deported from other nations after WWII.

The Bantustan defense didn't work with Apartheid South Africa and it won't work with Apartheid Israel. Been there done that.

It worked alright after WWII when neighboring countries sent their German citizens back to Germany.
Send all the Arabs to Syria. Maybe the rich Gulf states can help finance their move?

As an aside to your usual idiotic jingoisms you fail to see that a Palestinian State between Israel and the rest of the Arabs who want to destroy her is a natural geographic buffer. That's why Israel will support the two state solution after the settlements.

In the end fortress Israel will be extinguished by a slow relentless Demographic Time Bomb.

a Palestinian State between Israel and the rest of the Arabs who want to destroy her is a natural geographic buffer.


Yes, Gaza is very nicely protecting Israel from Egyptian aggression.
I guess the constant rocket attacks are a small price to pay?
And those darn Jordanians, stopped only by the peaceful "Palestinians" in the West Bank.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If one wished to sum up Jewish morality in one phrase, it would read as follows: “All is moral which brings advantage.”

If one wished to sum up Muslim morality in one phrase, it would read, "What morality?"

 

[Boston1]

The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.

Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.

Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah

The goal is obvious

 

[Roudy]

Its the Palestinian leaders that are corrupt puppets who are stealing hundreds of millions as a result of continuing the conflict.

In the end they will take their stolen billions and run away and hide in another country, never to be seen or heard from again. Just like Arafart.

 

[montelatici]

The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.

Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.

Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah

The goal is obvious

But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.

Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.

Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah

The goal is obvious

But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..

Syria is a better choice. They can help rebuild.

 

[Boston1]

The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.

Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.

Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah

The goal is obvious

But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..

This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats

Another outright lie

Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.

See

Islamization of Israel

Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)

Quote

Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]

After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).

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So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)

Readers might also benefit from the following

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Jordan is Palestine. Palestine is Jordan.This is the royal decree and sentiments of two of the kings of Jordan.

“Palestine and Jordan are one…” said King Abdullah in 1948.

“The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan,”said King Hussein of Jordan, in 1981.

Let’s closely examine the facts of history from the Arab perspective, rather than the Jewish one, regarding Jordan and Palestine.

“Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,” Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly was quoted as saying on February 2, 1970.

Accordingly, Abdul Hamid Sharif, Prime Minister of Jordan declared, in 1980, “The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.”

In other words, Jordan is Palestine. Arab Palestine. There is absolutely no difference between Jordan and Palestine, nor between Jordanians and Palestinians (all actually Arabs).

This fact is also confirmed by other Arabs, Jordanians and ‘Palestinans’ who were either rulers or scholars.

“There should be a kind of linkage because Jordanians and Palestinians are considered by the PLO as one people,”according to Farouk Kaddoumi, then head of the PLO Political Department, who gave the statement to Newsweek on March 14, 1977. Distinguished Arab-American Princeton University historian Philip Hitti testified before the Anglo-American Committee,

“There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ in history.”

According to Arab-American columnist Joseph Farah,

“Palestine has never existed – before or since – as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire, and briefly by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland. There was no language known as Palestinian. There was no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a Palestine governed by the Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.”

These authoritative, honest statements are by Arabs, Jordanians and Palestinians, and absolutely must be taken at their face value and word.All right, so you’re not quite into quotes. How about these tasteful tidbits of historical facts?

* Jews, not Arabs, have lived continuously in the ancient Biblical Promised Land of Israel, especially Judea and Samaria, for 3,700 years. This land was given as a gift by G-d to the Children of Israel (Hebrews, Israelites, Jews) and is so stated in all of the three monotheistic religions’ holy books – Old Testament, New Testament and Quran. Faithful followers of Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the same one G-d and therefore must believe the word of their G-d. G-d does not make and break his promises. There is a very valuable lesson to be learned by all his children and faithful followers.* The current queen of Jordan is an Arab ‘Palestinian’.

* Approximately half of Jordan’s prime ministers since 1950 have been Arab ‘Palestinians’.

* More than 2/3 of the Jordanian people are Arab ‘Palestinians’.

* The majority of citizens residing in the capital of Amman are Arab ‘Palestinians’.

* Arab ‘Palestinians’ constitute not less than one half of the members of the armed forces, according to the late King Hussein, as broadcast on Amman Radio February 3, 1973.

* The majority of other security forces are Arab ‘Palestinians’.

* Jordan occupies 77% of the original Palestine Mandate (originally promised to the Jewish people). The population density of Jordan is less than 61 people per square mile leaving lots of room to absorb many more of their brethren and cousins.

Want to delve even deeper? Let’s explore further. We all need to refresh our memory, as ‘short-term syndrome’ has taken over. Now for a little history lesson, for those who do not recall the reality of the past.TheBritish tried to placate the Arabs by giving them part of the land designated under the Palestine Mandate (originally allocated under the Balfour Declaration for the establishment of a Jewish homeland). Britain created an entirely new province by severing 77% of historic Palestine (and an additional 3% was also allocated to Syria), on the eastern bank of the Jordan River (some 35,000 square miles), and establishing the state of Transjordan.

Faisal, who had been King of Syria, was deposed by the French, so the British offered him the throne of Iraq, which he accepted. Faisal’s brother Abdullah was installed as the new nation of Transjordan’s ruler on April 1, 1921 (April Fool’s Day), thereby completing the appeasement of Arab rulers.

During the Arab-Israeli war of 1948, in which nine Arab nations attacked Israel, they took control of the ancient biblical territories of Judea and Samaria (Jewish territory, which was “occupied” for nineteen years until 1967, when it was liberated and reconquered in yet another defensive war).

On April 24, 1950, Abdullah formally merged all of Arab-held Palestine with Transjordan and granted citizenship to all Arab residents and settlers (the vast majority of whom arrived the 1920s for economic reasons).

The Hashemite Kingdom was no longer only across the river so the prefix “Trans” (meaning “across”) was dropped, and henceforth, the land became known as Jordan; i.e., Arab Palestine.

Remember, Jordan is Palestine. Arab Palestine.

Don’t take my word for it. Listen to King Abdullah, King Hussein, Prince Hassan, Farouk Kaddoumi, Phillip Hitti and Joseph Farah, Arab, Jordanian and Palestinian authorities on the subject; and listen to the historical facts, as well.



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[pbel]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount, Jerusalem was built by the Caliph Abd al Malik in 691, making it the oldest extant Islamic building in the world.[1]
The Islamization of Palestine occurred as a result of the Islamic conquest in 640. It was a long process that included immigration of Muslim Arabs


Keep trying to finagle History with your bullshit...The Arab invasion was a cake-walk because there was no resistance to it in the ME...The switch from Judaism to Islam was a very easy choice for the natives, there's not much difference.

Israel is persecuting its very ancestors.

 

[montelatici]

The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.

Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.

Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah

The goal is obvious

But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..

This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats

Another outright lie

Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.

See

Islamization of Israel

Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)

Quote

Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]

After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).

End Quote

So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)

False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.

Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.

The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.

See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.


X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

 

[Indeependent]

The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.

Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.

Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah

The goal is obvious

But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..

This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats

Another outright lie

Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.

See

Islamization of Israel

Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)

Quote

Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]

After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).

End Quote

So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)

False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.

Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.

The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.

See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.


X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.

 

[montelatici]

The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.

Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.

Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah

The goal is obvious

But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..

This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats

Another outright lie

Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.

See

Islamization of Israel

Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)

Quote

Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]

After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).

End Quote

So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)

False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.

Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.

The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.

See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.


X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.

You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.

 

[Indeependent]

The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.

Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.

Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah

The goal is obvious

But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..

This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats

Another outright lie

Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.

See

Islamization of Israel

Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)

Quote

Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]

After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).

End Quote

So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)

False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.

Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.

The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.

See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.


X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.

You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.

There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).

Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.

 

[montelatici]

But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..

This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats

Another outright lie

Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.

See

Islamization of Israel

Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)

Quote

Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]

After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).

End Quote

So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)

False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.

Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.

The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.

See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.


X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.

You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.

There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).

Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.

Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL

 

[Indeependent]

This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats

Another outright lie

Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.

See

Islamization of Israel

Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)

Quote

Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]

After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).

End Quote

So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)

False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.

Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.

The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.

See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.


X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.

You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.

There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).

Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.

Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL

Should I post a 500 page magazine minus the index and ask you to search for a relevant page or paragraph?
You are being Intellectually dishonest.

 

[montelatici]

False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.

Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.

The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.

See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.


X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.

You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.

There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).

Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.

Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL

Should I post a 500 page magazine minus the index and ask you to search for a relevant page or paragraph?
You are being Intellectually dishonest.

You are reduced to complaining about the presentation of the facts. The citation and the link to the original source document from an official archive is not enough. You are accustomed to Zionist propaganda sites that present the falsehoods and propaganda in simple language you can understand and follow. I get it.

Ok, I'll play your little game.

I posted the last page of the report and the title of document.

Of course, I realize that is a terrific number of words for you. So, here are the key sentences. The sentences are in section X. Trans-Jordania, last page of the complete Report.

"X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania."

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

 

[Indeependent]

His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.

You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.

There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).

Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.

Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL

Should I post a 500 page magazine minus the index and ask you to search for a relevant page or paragraph?
You are being Intellectually dishonest.

You are reduced to complaining about the presentation of the facts. The citation and the link to the original source document from an official archive is not enough. You are accustomed to Zionist propaganda sites that present the falsehoods and propaganda in simple language you can understand and follow. I get it.

Ok, I'll play your little game.

I posted the last page of the report and the title of document.

Of course, I realize that is a terrific number of words for you. So, here are the key sentences. The sentences are in section X. Trans-Jordania, last page of the complete Report.

"X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania."

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

You are posting a pre-WWII document?
Are you high?
Are you Tinmore?

No problem...
I'll post Kings I & II and we'll kick all the Jordanians into Jordan.

 

[montelatici]

You are hilarious, his Wiki bullshit was thoroughly debunked through the use of source documents.

There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).

Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.

Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL

Should I post a 500 page magazine minus the index and ask you to search for a relevant page or paragraph?
You are being Intellectually dishonest.

You are reduced to complaining about the presentation of the facts. The citation and the link to the original source document from an official archive is not enough. You are accustomed to Zionist propaganda sites that present the falsehoods and propaganda in simple language you can understand and follow. I get it.

Ok, I'll play your little game.

I posted the last page of the report and the title of document.

Of course, I realize that is a terrific number of words for you. So, here are the key sentences. The sentences are in section X. Trans-Jordania, last page of the complete Report.

"X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania."

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

You are posting a pre-WWII document?
Are you high?
Are you Tinmore?

No problem...
I'll post Kings I & II and we'll kick all the Jordanians into Jordan.

Trans-Jordania, and its status, is the subject of Boston's claim, its status was established in 1920. Try to follow the thread.

 

[Indeependent]

There's an old saying...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

A good case is made by zeroing in on a point and then providing context bit by bit.
In your frustration caused by Boston, who is being VERY kind by actually reading your War & Peace, Tinmore like postings, and clarifying what they ACTUALLY mean, IN CONTEXT, you are becoming more and more intellectually dishonest (as though it's possible for THAT to happen).

Keep on as nobody is reading anyway.

Of course the Zionists don't read the source documents. It debunks the propaganda and myths. LOL

Should I post a 500 page magazine minus the index and ask you to search for a relevant page or paragraph?
You are being Intellectually dishonest.

You are reduced to complaining about the presentation of the facts. The citation and the link to the original source document from an official archive is not enough. You are accustomed to Zionist propaganda sites that present the falsehoods and propaganda in simple language you can understand and follow. I get it.

Ok, I'll play your little game.

I posted the last page of the report and the title of document.

Of course, I realize that is a terrific number of words for you. So, here are the key sentences. The sentences are in section X. Trans-Jordania, last page of the complete Report.

"X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania."

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

You are posting a pre-WWII document?
Are you high?
Are you Tinmore?

No problem...
I'll post Kings I & II and we'll kick all the Jordanians into Jordan.

Trans-Jordania, and its status, is the subject of Boston's claim, its status was established in 1920. Try to follow the thread.

I do; we have already established that you can't differentiate between a suggestion and an order.
I presume you failed the Bar in that section.

 

[Boston1]

The two state solution was enacted when Jordan was created and the Judaic peoples left to battle it out with the Arab League.

Now we have Gaza, which isn't interested in statehood, Jordan which already has statehood and a group of Arab Muslim colonists refusing to vacate the disputed territories who've refuses citizenship over and over again in favor of the destruction of the jewish state.

Not sure who they think they are fooling but yeah

The goal is obvious

But Jordan is a Muslim kingdom established for the Muslim Hashemites, not the secular democracy that British were to provide tutelage for the Christian and Muslim Palestinians to establish, as per Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations. You are confused by your Hasbara training, which is out of date. The old "Jordan is Palestine" Hasbara gambit was a loser from the beginning..

This one ranks right up there with the revisionists presenting fake quotes from famous Israeli diplomats

Another outright lie

Jordan was carved out of palestine, its inhabitants are palestinians or to put it more accurately, Arab Muslim Colonists who arrived sometime around the 10th century after a military campaign killed or ran off some/many/most/all ? of the local inhabitants.

See

Islamization of Israel

Once again WIKI is a tad sketchy but its easy. Deal is they don't even really mention the Judaic people after about the 9th century which is a flagrant omission, however the author does note that the Arab Muslim population didn't become the majority until late in the 10th century ;--)

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Rival dynasties and revolutions led to the eventual disunion of the Muslim world. In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynastyout of North Africa. Palestine once again became a battleground as the various enemies of the Fatimids attacked. At the same time, the Byzantine Romans continued to attempt to regain their lost territories, including Jerusalem. Christians in Jerusalem who sided with the Romans were put to death for high treason by the ruling Muslims. In 969, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, John VII, was put to death for treasonable correspondence with the Romans. As Jerusalem grew in importance to Muslims and pilgrimages increased, tolerance for other religions declined. Christians were persecuted. Churches were destroyed. The sixth Fatimid caliph, Caliph Al-Hakim (996–1021), who was believed to be "God made manifest" by the Druze, destroyed the Holy Sepulchre in 1009. This powerful provocation started the near 90-year preparation towards the First Crusade.[6]

After the Crusaders lost to the Muslims in the Holy Land, the Muslim population became the majority, as a result of that many Muslim shrines were built such as Maqam al-Nabi Yamin, Maqam al-Nabi Musa, Maqam al-Nabi Rubin and many more shrines that Muslims described as a burial sites of a Prophets, Sahabas and even what they considered holy Muslim martyrs from Crusader and pre-Crusader times. Some historians[who?] say that the shrines were built to make a good strategic positions for Muslims (for example Nabi Musa was built on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, Nabi Rubin was built on the road the Gaza).

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So its pretty obvious that the palestinians were killed off in this particular moment of Arab Muslim colonialization and replaced with Arab Muslims from the north African sphere. ;--)

False (and outdated) Zionist propaganda is Boston's claim to fame. Unfortunately, as a recent arrival, he doesn't realize that the old propaganda he is spewing (plus the childish use of Wiki to make his points) was debunked long ago.

Trans-Jordania was included as a separate territory within the Mandate, it was not within Palestinian territory, as the Zionist propagandist, Boston, would have you believe.

The other falsehood is the claim that Trans-Jordania was "split off" from Palestine. In fact, Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria had been established an independent Arab Emirate, ruled by Emir Feisal (with its capital in Damascus after WW1. Damascus was later occupied by the French in 1920 and Feisal withdrew to Trans-Jordania and the British and French agreed to split Trans-Jordania off from Syria.

See how easy it is to debunk Boston's bullshit.. The source documents are available in official archives, such as the one below which provides the facts regarding Trans-Jordania.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.


X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year.

When Palestine west of the Jordan was occupied by the British Army and placed under a British military administration, over Trans-Jordania and a large part of Syria there was established an Arab administration, with its capital at Damascus. The ruler was His Highness the Emir Feisal, the third son of H.M. King Hussein, the King of the Hejaz. When Damascus was occupied by French troops in July, 1920, and the Emir Feisal withdrew, it was necessary to adopt fresh measures in Trans-Jordania. I proceeded to the central town of Salt on August 20th, and, at an assembly of notables and sheikhs of the district, announced that His Majesty's Government favoured the establishment of a system of local self- government, assisted by a small number of British officers as advisers.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

His expertise is really burning you, isn't it?
He actually reads your War & Peace crap before he debunks it.

And I didn't have to read far before I found that old Achmed shot himself in the foot again

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Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania.

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