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The cost of illegals from a conservative rag know as Heritage puts it at 54.5 billion. It’s safe to say that figure is bullshit given the source but even that number would not even come close to maintaining the wall. Cost of maintaining the wall til the end of time? Armed guards and Landmines along the entire stretch? Yeah it’s safe to that would definitely exceed 54 billion per year.Show me YOUR MATH... I want to see what you say is a magical multiplier for the cost to build and maintain it vs. the flood of illegals.
Provide your own source than moron. A conservative source put it at 54 billion. Apparently you are too stupid for this though because you think illegals qualify for food stamps lolLOL... POLITOCRAP.. A far left source.....
Lol what do you mean “and”? Are you serious? Your entire point applies to government spending. Also, there is no way in hell your insane idea along the border would be ultimately cheaper. Not even fucking close. I would ask you to back up your claim with a source but I know you will never provide that. Even if that idea was cheaper, just how much cheaper would it even be? Again, you have no idea.
How expensive? You came up with the idea. You tell me how expensive it would be. Derp!Lol what do you mean “and”? Are you serious?
A basic for any government is controlling who comes into the country.
Seriously.
An astronomically expensive idea.
How expensive?
How expensive? You came up with the idea. You tell me how expensive it would be. Derp!
You NEED me on that wall.The wall IS a good idea, if properly designed. I’m not talking some shitty-ass looking 20’ high sheet metal piece of trash.
I’m talking a convex towards Mexico, concrete and steel structure 30-40’ tall above ground and 15-20’ below ground. Manned watch towers every 50 yards looking out over the football field length minefield. Patrols walking the parapets between the towers every half hour.
THST type of wall WILL work
Lol I can’t get over how fucking stupid you are. Our entire national debt per year altogether doesn’t even come close to 5.12 trillion dollars you fucking idiot. Again, a conservative source put it at 52 billion. Are you even listening to yourself? ALL illegals would not even be going to the hospital per year.Let me see....
Average cost (according to GAO) for each illegal is 90,000 a year for housing and food. Health care is another 18,000 dollars. That is about 108,000 dollars a year per illegal. 5 million so far makes that is 540 billion a year.
Now include the lost wages due to flattened income for some 81 million US low wage job holders. Another 580 billion dollars.
That means it is costing the US about 5.12 trillion dollars a year...
The wall will cost about 1.1 trillion to completely wall the southern border and another 10 million a year to maintain it...
The OP is up in the fucking night...
Your lie is obvious... I just did the math. Between the cost to house, feed, and give medical insurance, its costing us 540 billion a year. the lost wages for the rest of us is another 580 billion dollars.. That means its costing us 1.12 trillion a year for your illegals IF WE STOPPED TAKING THEM TODAY.. Building the wall will coast about 1.1 Trillion to finish and another 10 million a year to maintain it.Lol I can’t get over how fucking stupid you are. Our entire national debt per year altogether doesn’t even come close to 5.12 trillion dollars you fucking idiot. Again, a conservative source put it at 52 billion. Are you even listening to yourself? ALL illegals would not even be going to the hospital per year.
Do you even have a source for all this bullshit? No of course not. If you did, you would know illegal immigrants do not qualify for fucking healthcare coverage with exception of a few municipalities. Even if they did have It, you’re making the stupid assumption all of them would be racking up huge medical bills every year. Also, what government program is offering housing and food to illegal immigrants? You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.Your lie is obvious... I just did the math. Between the cost to house, feed, and give medical insurance, its costing us 540 billion a year. the lost wages for the rest of us is another 580 billion dollars.. That means its costing us 1.12 trillion a year for your illegals IF WE STOPPED TAKING THEM TODAY.. Building the wall will coast about 1.1 Trillion to finish and another 10 million a year to maintain it.
1.12 Trillion for the illegals per year or 1.1 trillion one time to build the all and then 10 million a year to maintain it.. After just ONE YEAR the wall has paid for itself. Every consecutive year after that is money the US can put back into our businesses and peoples pockets.
You are a clueless fuck. I didn't even include the cost to each city or town for schooling and social services..
Yeah because it obviously would be lol. That doesn’t mean I know the specific total. This is basic common sense we are talking about here.You said it was "An astronomically expensive idea"
Were you lying again? LOL!
No, we don't need the workers. How does it benefit American workers to bring in cheap foreign labor?I'll never understand the "wall" obsession. Now I'd happily say I wish we still had Trump's "catch and no release" policies, but he also shut off LEGAL immigration, and we need the workers ....
"Enough workers" for what?Well, you're asserting we have enough workers. And facts don't bear that out.
Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.
What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?
Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.
Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?
Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.
Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.
Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.
No, we don't need the workers. How does it benefit American workers to bring in cheap foreign labor?
Where's the lie, Kazzy? Where are the workers and why'd Trumpy end legal immigration from south of the border?Needing workers is one thing, but obviously we don't need millions of bottom end workers that Democrats are flooding us with no matter how big a liar bendog is
Corporations always clim they need the workers. What they really mean is that they want cheap labor.Needing workers is one thing, but obviously we don't need millions of bottom end workers that Democrats are flooding us with no matter how big a liar bendog is
Changing the nation is the goal of Prog and many Repub politicians. In our history we have closed the borders until people assimilated into the culture. We have had it locked open since the 1960's. Running concurrently with a nation moving head fast into Socialism or a version of it. The younger people in the united Startes are so phuked!The cost of illegals from a conservative rag know as Heritage puts it at 54.5 billion. It’s safe to say that figure is bullshit given the source but even that number would not even come close to maintaining the wall. Cost of maintaining the wall til the end of time? Armed guards and Landmines along the entire stretch? Yeah it’s safe to that would definitely exceed 54 billion per year.
