It really is baffling to me republicans still think the wall is a good idea

[Billy000]

Already addressed and obliterated this idiotic notion. Interesting how Billy000 gave it a thumbs up. HA HA HA.

If you had an ounce of critical thinking skills, self-awareness, or emotional maturity, you would be a progressive.

 

[Slyhunter]

If you had an ounce of critical thinking skills, self-awareness, or emotional maturity, you would be a progressive.

Bullshit.

 

[Billy000]

Bullshit.

Quite honestly, if a conservative had the open mind, I could convert him or her.

 

[lennypartiv]

The walls a great idea ...along with policies that discourage illegal invasions ...
A better idea is mine fields ,snipers , and helicopter gunship patrols.....im just sayin

It worked in Berlin.

 

[Indeependent]

Quite honestly, if a conservative had the open mind, I could convert him or her.

To be an idiot like you?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Quite honestly, if a conservative had the open mind, I could convert him or her.

Quite honestly

And then you go off the rails.......

 

[protectionist]

Quite honestly

And then you go off the rails.......

He was never ON the rails.

 

[lennypartiv]

To be an idiot like you?

Oh I hope not. There's already too many idiots in this country. Look at all the people making idiotic posts on this message board.

 

[iceberg]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

then again, water baffles you.

im not really for a wall, but that isn't the point here. for you to cry out TRUMP and his "followers" are blindly for walls and walls are bad; well you seem to ignore the walls we put around the gov buildings for many months and guarded them religiously. you forget obama put walls around his house and many other high profile dems have done the same.

but you justify crap like that with whatever mental gymnastics you're capable of that day and still stay on target hoping like a blind squirrel this is your nut this time.

 

[Mac-7]

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

The unemployment rate is based on the number of people applying for jobs

If we could begin to remove illegal aliens by deporting them wages would rise and more citizens would return to the job market

Particularly if we tighten eligibility for able bodied people to get welfare along with shorter time limits

 

[Meathead]

The unemployment rate is based on the number of people applying for jobs

If we could begin to remove illegal aliens by deporting them wages would rise and more citizens would return to the job market

Particularly if we tighten eligibility for able bodied people to get welfare along with shorter time limits

Spot on. We certainly have no shortage of able-bodied people sponging off the government.

 

[Mac-7]

Spot on. We certainly have no shortage of able-bodied people sponging off the government.

I can remember when libs used to say that illegals were just doing work that Americans refused to do

Which was because lazy welfare bums were sitting on yjeir ass collecting a government check

 

[bendog]

I can remember when libs used to say that illegals were just doing work that Americans refused to do

Which was because lazy welfare bums were sitting on yjeir ass collecting a government check

I'd love to see stats backing that up.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Oh I hope not. There's already too many idiots in this country. Look at all the people making idiotic posts on this message board.

Like "stolen election"?
MAGA

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Yep. That wall is STILL necessary.

The OP is a fucking dumb ass.

 

[bendog]

I'll never understand the "wall" obsession. Now I'd happily say I wish we still had Trump's "catch and no release" policies, but he also shut off LEGAL immigration, and we need the workers ....

 

[Billy_Bob]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

Look at the cluster fuck we have on the southern boarder you dumb fuck.

Fentanyl up the ass, enough to kill every American this year alone has been seized. How much made it through? Fentanyl overdose deaths are in the 10,000 level in just 5 months.

Were seeing over 250,000 illegals every month. Were breaking records every damn month.. No system can support that many dependents for long before it collapses...

You are fucking idiot... This is intentional destruction of our nation. People need to be hung for this INTENTIONAL ATTACK on US sovereignty.

 

[Mac-7]

I'd love to see stats backing that up.

It was just an argument libs used to justify the presence of illegal aliens

 

[Correll]

I'll never understand the "wall" obsession. Now I'd happily say I wish we still had Trump's "catch and no release" policies, but he also shut off LEGAL immigration, and we need the workers ....

Screw those workers and the employers that depend on them.

RAISE WAGES FOR AMERICAN WORKERS.

 

[bendog]

It was just an argument libs used to justify the presence of illegal aliens

Well, you're asserting we have enough workers. And facts don't bear that out.