It really is baffling to me republicans still think the wall is a good idea

[Billy000]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It’s not baffling when one considers the fact that those who support a ‘wall’ are frightened, hateful bigots.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

Take the money that the illegals are using for welfare in the US and put it to the border wall. Those illegals will head back south licketty split, because they dont have a reason to be here anymore and dont want to be caught on the wrong side of the fence before it closes....I shake my head in disbelief at how stupid liberals are...

Expensive Aliens: How Much Do Illegal Immigrants Really Cost?

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion each year.

This 100 billion dollars could be going to US citizens and their children who really need it, but is being sucked up by diseased illegal criminals and their anchor babies. Why? Because Democraps dont like US citizens but future Dem voters that cant speak English.

 

[Billy000]

It’s not baffling when one considers the fact that those who support a ‘wall’ are frightened, hateful bigots.

Bigotry definitely plays a role in it, but they are so simple minded that they have let Trump delude them into thinking the wall is the most pressing issue and nothing else matters until it is built.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It’s not baffling when one considers the fact that those who support a ‘wall’ are frightened, hateful bigots.

Bigotry definitely plays a role in it, but they are so simple minded that they have let Trump delude them into thinking the wall is the most pressing issue and nothing else matters until it is built.

Ah yes, resort to name calling instead of debating the issue about 100's of billions of dollars wasted on diseased individuals who crossed the border illegally and are infecting US children and many are dying. To think that liberals say "What about the children?". I say Bullshit...You dont give a shit about anyone but yourselves..

 

[Billy000]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

Take the money that the illegals are using for welfare in the US and put it to the border wall. Those illegals will head back south licketty split, because they dont have a reason to be here anymore and dont want to be caught on the wrong side of the fence before it closes....I shake my head in disbelief at how stupid liberals are...

Expensive Aliens: How Much Do Illegal Immigrants Really Cost?

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion each year.

This 100 billion dollars could be going to US citizens and their children who really need it, but is being sucked up by diseased illegal criminals and their anchor babies. Why? Because Democraps dont like US citizens but future Dem voters that cant speak English.

lol this was taken from the exact article you just posted:

“Wendy Sefsaf, a spokeswoman for the Immigration Policy Center which favors a lenient immigration policy, says that conservative analysts overestimate the costs because undocumented workers don't even qualify for unemployment or medical benefits.

At the same time, those whose jobs are paid legally – at least fifty percent, by some estimates – end up paying social security and other payroll taxes without ever collecting benefits. Since illegal immigrants are believed to constitute up to 5 percent of the U.S. economy, their tax contributions will mean a revenue windfall for legal residents”

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

Take the money that the illegals are using for welfare in the US and put it to the border wall. Those illegals will head back south licketty split, because they dont have a reason to be here anymore and dont want to be caught on the wrong side of the fence before it closes....I shake my head in disbelief at how stupid liberals are...

Expensive Aliens: How Much Do Illegal Immigrants Really Cost?

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion each year.

This 100 billion dollars could be going to US citizens and their children who really need it, but is being sucked up by diseased illegal criminals and their anchor babies. Why? Because Democraps dont like US citizens but future Dem voters that cant speak English.

lol this was taken from the exact article you just posted:

“Wendy Sefsaf, a spokeswoman for the Immigration Policy Center which favors a lenient immigration policy, says that conservative analysts overestimate the costs because undocumented workers don't even qualify for unemployment or medical benefits.

At the same time, those whose jobs are paid legally – at least fifty percent, by some estimates – end up paying social security and other payroll taxes without ever collecting benefits. Since illegal immigrants are believed to constitute up to 5 percent of the U.S. economy, their tax contributions will mean a revenue windfall for legal residents”

And how do they end up paying into Social Security without collecting it? Because they have stolen a citizens identity which again is a felony. But you are too stupid to know that arent you? I pray every day that your identity is stolen by these criminals, and your credit is ruined. Maybe then you would have your proverbial "wake up call"..

 

[Billy000]

It’s not baffling when one considers the fact that those who support a ‘wall’ are frightened, hateful bigots.

Bigotry definitely plays a role in it, but they are so simple minded that they have let Trump delude them into thinking the wall is the most pressing issue and nothing else matters until it is built.

Ah yes, resort to name calling instead of debating the issue about 100's of billions of dollars wasted on diseased individuals who crossed the border illegally and are infecting US children and many are dying. To think that liberals say "What about the children?". I say Bullshit...You dont give a shit about anyone but yourselves..

What are you even talking about? Infecting US children, huh? Where is the statistical evidence that illegal immigrants are a public safety risk as far as disease?

 

[Auld Phart]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with.

And yet, it worked for China, Germany, and how many other countries?

 

[Billy000]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

Take the money that the illegals are using for welfare in the US and put it to the border wall. Those illegals will head back south licketty split, because they dont have a reason to be here anymore and dont want to be caught on the wrong side of the fence before it closes....I shake my head in disbelief at how stupid liberals are...

Expensive Aliens: How Much Do Illegal Immigrants Really Cost?

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion each year.

This 100 billion dollars could be going to US citizens and their children who really need it, but is being sucked up by diseased illegal criminals and their anchor babies. Why? Because Democraps dont like US citizens but future Dem voters that cant speak English.

lol this was taken from the exact article you just posted:

“Wendy Sefsaf, a spokeswoman for the Immigration Policy Center which favors a lenient immigration policy, says that conservative analysts overestimate the costs because undocumented workers don't even qualify for unemployment or medical benefits.

At the same time, those whose jobs are paid legally – at least fifty percent, by some estimates – end up paying social security and other payroll taxes without ever collecting benefits. Since illegal immigrants are believed to constitute up to 5 percent of the U.S. economy, their tax contributions will mean a revenue windfall for legal residents”

And how do they end up paying into Social Security without collecting it? Because they have stolen a citizens identity which again is a felony. But you are too stupid to know that arent you? I pray every day that your identity is stolen by these criminals, and your credit is ruined. Maybe then you would have your proverbial "wake up call"..

Lol I love how you want to fault the immigrants without putting any blame whatsoever on the millions of business owners who choose to hire these people.

They don’t collect SS because if they applied they would have to provide solid evidence they are US citizens. The government isn’t going to look the other way when it comes to fake paper work. That’s something business owners do for their own interests lol

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

Take the money that the illegals are using for welfare in the US and put it to the border wall. Those illegals will head back south licketty split, because they dont have a reason to be here anymore and dont want to be caught on the wrong side of the fence before it closes....I shake my head in disbelief at how stupid liberals are...

Expensive Aliens: How Much Do Illegal Immigrants Really Cost?

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion each year.

This 100 billion dollars could be going to US citizens and their children who really need it, but is being sucked up by diseased illegal criminals and their anchor babies. Why? Because Democraps dont like US citizens but future Dem voters that cant speak English.

lol this was taken from the exact article you just posted:

“Wendy Sefsaf, a spokeswoman for the Immigration Policy Center which favors a lenient immigration policy, says that conservative analysts overestimate the costs because undocumented workers don't even qualify for unemployment or medical benefits.

At the same time, those whose jobs are paid legally – at least fifty percent, by some estimates – end up paying social security and other payroll taxes without ever collecting benefits. Since illegal immigrants are believed to constitute up to 5 percent of the U.S. economy, their tax contributions will mean a revenue windfall for legal residents”

And how do they end up paying into Social Security without collecting it? Because they have stolen a citizens identity which again is a felony. But you are too stupid to know that arent you? I pray every day that your identity is stolen by these criminals, and your credit is ruined. Maybe then you would have your proverbial "wake up call"..

Lol I love how you want to fault the immigrants without putting any blame whatsoever on the millions of business owners who choose to hire these people.

They don’t collect SS because if they applied they would have to provide solid evidence they are US citizens. The government isn’t going to look the other way when it comes to fake paper work. That’s something business owners do for their own interests lol

The same business owners who do background checks E-Verify and the government says the person is okay,? That is the business's fault? Once again, you are showing how stupid you are.

 

[Kondor3]

The wall is stupid.

However...

Giving 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens a path to citizenship is sheer idiocy.

Advocating for open borders and unlimited uncontrolled immigration is cultural and national suicide.

We don't need the wall, but we sure-as-hell don't need Liberals in-charge of immigration policy.

Time to begin crucifying (metaphorically, in the law courts) the employers of illegals.

Time to limit and control personal money-wiring/transfers between the US and Mexico et al.

Time to eliminate Sanctuary laws and refusals to cooperate with ICE, DHS, etc.

Time to stop providing education and social services to non-citizens at taxpayer expense.

Time to drastically limit sales and renting of residences and automobiles to non-citizens.

Etc... etc... etc...

Making it impossible for an Illegal Alien to "get by" while on US soil without our permission...

And it's time to drastically limit that "permission" to conform to the needs of the country and the economy...

Time to make prospective border-jumpers despair of "making it" here in the US...

Time to de-incentivize the little wankers... time to make them stop wanting to come here.

The best-possible "virtual" wall... far less expensive, and far more sustainable.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It’s not baffling when one considers the fact that those who support a ‘wall’ are frightened, hateful bigots.

Bigotry definitely plays a role in it, but they are so simple minded that they have let Trump delude them into thinking the wall is the most pressing issue and nothing else matters until it is built.

Ah yes, resort to name calling instead of debating the issue about 100's of billions of dollars wasted on diseased individuals who crossed the border illegally and are infecting US children and many are dying. To think that liberals say "What about the children?". I say Bullshit...You dont give a shit about anyone but yourselves..

What are you even talking about? Infecting US children, huh? Where is the statistical evidence that illegal immigrants are a public safety risk as far as disease?

Mystery virus EV-D68 exploding among vaccinated children; U.S. medical system clueless without a vaccine

"Just weeks after the Obama administration let more than 37,000 illegal-alien children into the U.S. without health screening, more than 1,000 kids across 10 states have been stricken with a respiratory virus – prompting widespread concerns about a major outbreak sweeping across the nation." - WND.com (3)

"It's worse in terms of scope of critically ill children who require intensive care. I would call it unprecedented. I've practiced for 30 years in pediatrics, and I've never seen anything quite like this," said Dr. Mary Anne Jackson, the hospital's division director for infectious diseases. - CNN (1)

 

[Darkwind]

I guess we can do away with all the walls around our prisons. Why keep them if they don't work, right?

 

[Meathead]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

I don't doubt many things baffle you.

 

[Billy000]

It’s not baffling when one considers the fact that those who support a ‘wall’ are frightened, hateful bigots.

Bigotry definitely plays a role in it, but they are so simple minded that they have let Trump delude them into thinking the wall is the most pressing issue and nothing else matters until it is built.

Ah yes, resort to name calling instead of debating the issue about 100's of billions of dollars wasted on diseased individuals who crossed the border illegally and are infecting US children and many are dying. To think that liberals say "What about the children?". I say Bullshit...You dont give a shit about anyone but yourselves..

What are you even talking about? Infecting US children, huh? Where is the statistical evidence that illegal immigrants are a public safety risk as far as disease?

Mystery virus EV-D68 exploding among vaccinated children; U.S. medical system clueless without a vaccine

"Just weeks after the Obama administration let more than 37,000 illegal-alien children into the U.S. without health screening, more than 1,000 kids across 10 states have been stricken with a respiratory virus – prompting widespread concerns about a major outbreak sweeping across the nation." - WND.com (3)

"It's worse in terms of scope of critically ill children who require intensive care. I would call it unprecedented. I've practiced for 30 years in pediatrics, and I've never seen anything quite like this," said Dr. Mary Anne Jackson, the hospital's division director for infectious diseases. - CNN (1)

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Lol I don’t know what this nonsense claim is about Obama letting in sick children cross the border is, but even if it were true you are talking about an isolated incident that is no longer relevant because this article was written 4 years ago lol.

 

[Taz]

We don't really need a wall, mining the border and putting up Messikin pictograms (because nobody coming up here can read) will do fine.

 

[Billy000]

I guess we can do away with all the walls around our prisons. Why keep them if they don't work, right?

Um obviously walls work in, you know, a building. They don’t work in curbing illegal immigration along a 2000 mile border.

 

[gipper]

The wall is stupid.

However...

Giving 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens a path to citizenship is sheer idiocy.

Advocating for open borders and unlimited uncontrolled immigration is cultural and national suicide.

We don't need the wall, but we sure-as-hell don't need Liberals in-charge of immigration policy.

Time to begin crucifying (metaphorically, in the law courts) the employers of illegals.

Time to limit and control personal money-wiring/transfers between the US and Mexico et al.

Time to eliminate Sanctuary laws and refusals to cooperate with ICE, DHS, etc.

Time to stop providing education and social services to non-citizens at taxpayer expense.

Time to drastically limit sales and renting of residences and automobiles to non-citizens.

Etc... etc... etc...

Making it impossible for an Illegal Alien to "get by" while on US soil without our permission...

And it's time to drastically limit that "permission" to conform to the needs of the country and the economy...

Time to make prospective border-jumpers despair of "making it" here in the US...

Time to de-incentivize the little wankers... time to make them stop wanting to come here.

The best-possible "virtual" wall... far less expensive, and far more sustainable.

It is more like 30-50 million.

The D Party lost it’s base and must generate a new one.

 

[ColonelAngus]

If Walls don’t work to secure an area we should remove them from Israel, the Vatican, prisons, and Hillary’s house.