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If you notice, I didnt propose deporting every illegal alien overnightWell, you're asserting we have enough workers. And facts don't bear that out.
If you're trying to drive wages down for the rich you can never have enough workers...Well, you're asserting we have enough workers. And facts don't bear that out.
I know you're not all that bright when it comes to just about everything, Billy but claiming that no Republicans cared about a secure border before Trump borders on idiotic! Reagan did a deal with Tip O'Neal to get a secure border and O'Neal reneged on their bargain.Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.
What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?
Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.
Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?
Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.
Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.
Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.
Hey idiot, what’s to stop people from climbing over it or tunneling under? There are already a network of tunnels under the border anyway.View attachment 658740View attachment 658741
Dumbfucks, we need a wall here at a bare-ass minimum. Not some stupid fence. A fucking steal/concrete, 40-foot high and low WALL!!!
Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.
What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?
Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.
Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?
Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.
Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.
Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.
Poor Billy. The Democrats want a no-win situation because they can exploit votes from any minor saying by the opponent that they can turn into a lawsuit, or make people think a law has been broken, when they're merely screaming about protections in Amendment I that they want to kill somebody over, whilst exploiting free speech into calumny. They've exploited so much they build legalistic hearings over, they've swayed the naive. People are naive until they (1) Get called names (2) Are threatened (3) Hear the same lie so many times they give in and shrug it off. That's why we're paying double for gas right now. They shrugged offOf course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.
What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?
Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.
Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?
Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.
Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.
Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.
"what’s to stop people from climbing over it or tunneling under?"Hey idiot, what’s to stop people from climbing over it or tunneling under? There are already a network of tunnels under the border anyway.
You do realize that if we built this wall, we would need to MAINTAIN it FOREVER. The cost of that would be astronomical.
Oh and there are some stretches of the border where it is physically impossible to build a wall because of the terrain. There is also a town along the border. There is private property along the border. Good luck getting those court cases settled from the battle over building it.
It’s a stupid fucking idea a 9 year could come up with. Hell, Trump is basically a 9 year old stuck in the body of a piece of dog shit so there’s that.
Tell me moron, how much will 3 million people on welfare, social security, and free health care cost? That dwarfs your claim of cost by a factor of 100,000,000. You are an idiot.. The wall will cost far less, be a deterrent, and help us control the flow. It will not stop everyone but it will make it so we cand locate and manage it.Hey idiot, what’s to stop people from climbing over it or tunneling under? There are already a network of tunnels under the border anyway.
You do realize that if we built this wall, we would need to MAINTAIN it FOREVER. The cost of that would be astronomical.
Oh and there are some stretches of the border where it is physically impossible to build a wall because of the terrain. There is also a town along the border. There is private property along the border. Good luck getting those court cases settled from the battle over building it.
It’s a stupid fucking idea a 9 year could come up with. Hell, Trump is basically a 9 year old stuck in the body of a piece of dog shit so there’s that.
Biden wants them to get our jobs so his party can get their vote. So far, the immigrants have realized that unless they fall for the lie, it will not go well for them in the future. What Joe didn't count on is that latinos tend to be intelligent in business and how to disregard blatant lies. /snicker!View attachment 658740View attachment 658741
Dumbfucks, we need a wall here at a bare-ass minimum. Not some stupid fence. A fucking steal/concrete, 40-foot high and low WALL!!!
Hey idiot, what’s to stop people from climbing over it or tunneling under? There are already a network of tunnels under the border anyway.
You do realize that if we built this wall, we would need to MAINTAIN it FOREVER. The cost of that would be astronomical.
Oh and there are some stretches of the border where it is physically impossible to build a wall because of the terrain. There is also a town along the border. There is private property along the border. Good luck getting those court cases settled from the battle over building it.
It’s a stupid fucking idea a 9 year could come up with. Hell, Trump is basically a 9 year old stuck in the body of a piece of dog shit so there’s that.
An astronomically expensive idea.Hey idiot, what’s to stop people from climbing over it or tunneling under?
And a minefield and soldiers with machine guns.
You do realize that if we built this wall, we would need to MAINTAIN it FOREVER. The cost of that would be astronomical.
Cheaper than millions of illegal aliens a year
It’s a stupid fucking idea a 9 year could come up with.
Says a 6 year old who doesn't want a secure border.
An astronomically expensive idea.
Cheaper than illegal immigration? What metric are you even referring to? How would you even know it would be cheaper? Lol that’s so stupid.
I want a secure border. Literally nothing is going to stop illegal immigration 100% however.
An astronomically expensive idea.
Cheaper than illegal immigration? What metric are you even referring to? How would you even know it would be cheaper? Lol that’s so stupid.
I want a secure border. Literally nothing is going to stop illegal immigration 100% however.
Lol what do you mean “and”? Are you serious? Your entire point applies to government spending. Also, there is no way in hell your insane idea along the border would be ultimately cheaper. Not even fucking close. I would ask you to back up your claim with a source but I know you will never provide that. Even if that idea was cheaper, just how much cheaper would it even be? Again, you have no idea.An astronomically expensive idea.
And?
Cheaper than illegal immigration? What metric are you even referring to?
We pay for schooling, jailing and hospitalizing millions of illegal aliens, year after year.
I want a secure border.
How should we secure it?
Literally nothing is going to stop illegal immigration 100% however.
I'd be happy with 99%. Plus a robust capture and deportation program.
Show me YOUR MATH... I want to see what you say is a magical multiplier for the cost to build and maintain it vs. the flood of illegals.Lol what do you mean “and”? Are you serious? Your entire point applies to government spending. Also, there is no way in hell your insane idea along the border would be ultimately cheaper. Not even fucking close. I would ask you to back up your claim with a source but I know you will never provide that. Even if that idea was cheaper, just how much cheaper would it even be? Again, you have no idea.
Hey moron, your bogus, amateur estimate is not even close to reality. It has been debunked several times that illegal immigrants cost tax payers hundreds of billions per year. Hell the conservative source Heritage estimated it at 54.5 billion but that’s probably bullshit because it’s a conservative rag. Also, illegal immigrants don’t qualify for programs like SNAP idiot. Do you republicans ever bother doing research? Are you too simple minded for it?View attachment 658758
My gawd you head placement is soooooo obvious... You didn't even reply to my post.. You just ignored that post to continue spewing lies... SO how much per year will 1 million illegal on Welfare, Food stamps, medical care, and low wages for the rest of the US cost us? The estimate is about 1.1 trillion dollars for each million.. we have about 5 million since Joe was installed.. Were getting damn near 6trillion a year... to let them stay here... how are YOU going to pay for it?
The wall was almost finished and would only require about 10 million to maintain it..
www.politifact.com
LOL... POLITOCRAP.. A far left source.....Hey moron, your bogus, amateur estimate is not even close to reality. It has been debunked several times that illegal immigrants cost tax payers hundreds of billions per year. Hell the conservative source Heritage estimated it at 54.5 billion but that’s probably bullshit because it’s a conservative rag. Also, illegal immigrants don’t qualify for programs like SNAP idiot. Do you republicans ever bother doing research? Are you too simple minded for it?
No evidence illegal immigration costs $155 billion each year
Another year, another false claim about the cost of illegal immigration going viral. Although former President Donald Tr
