It is time to start discussing the rape of Britain’s children.

[Dogmaphobe]

You want vague, general and irrelevant discussions, where a bunch of government bureaucrats and social workers talk and talk and nothing is every actually done.


You are the one with no credibility.

You are not open to any discussion that doesnt end with stringing up Muslims.

Even in this post you are blowing hot air. You have been shown that these people have been caught,tried and given appropriate sentences. And yet you still whine on about a conspiracy. The whistleblower now works for the police in helping to identify problems and frame policy. You ignore that. You ignore everything that doesnt fit your narrow racist viewpoint.

What is the highest level politician that lost his or her job for causing this? What serious policy changes were made?


Are people still called racist for discussing the role that Muslim immigrants played in these and other social ills?


Would such as statement be considered illegal Hate Speech under your lack of free speech laws?

Which "high level politician" has ever lost their job over a paedo scandal ? You see there you go again. You are showing your racism.

Actually just google Shaun Wright south yorkshire. So there you go klan boy.

Got it. No real change, just throwing little guys under the bus, while you rally around the power structure that is really to blame.


You are a disgusting vile person, you piece of shit, placing your agenda over the safety of your nations' children.



Fuck you, and your race baiting.

Now you are moving the goalposts because your racist arguments have been shot down. (again)

Lets get this straight. There are about 6 people on this thread who want to discuss the OP - The rape of Britains children.

Then there are a bunch of low info American racists, like yourself, who want to discuss one small group of offenders and ignore all of the others.

And yet we have the agenda ? Please.......................

Point out a high ranking US cabinet member who has lost his job over paedo rapes and we can take some learning from that.

Of course there is an agenda.

Yours is to lie about the extent of child rape being committed by Mulims in order to support the peeps .

1400 child rapes in Rothham, alone, yet all you supporters of Muslim rape gangs can do is to try to normalize them by comparing them to isolated acts that are magnitudes less frequent and with utterly different motivations and m.o. involved .

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Oh well, "they" do it.

So.....

….but it'd all the same, Mindful.

I mean, Rotherham has a population of around a hundred thousand, of which about 10000 are Muslim. Muslims raped 1400 children, so since Brits are just the same, that means the other 90% HAD to have raped 14 thousand children.

I mean, we keep hearing from the Muslim rape supporters about how Muslim rape of children is just a tiny minority of the child rapes in Britain, aren't we?

Isn't amazing how that other 14 thousand child rapes have gone undetected for as long as they have?

 

[Mindful]

Oh well, "they" do it.

So.....

….but it'd all the same, Mindful.

I mean, Rotherham has a population of around a hundred thousand, of which about 10000 are Muslim. Muslims raped 1400 children, so since Brits are just the same, that means the other 90% HAD to have raped 14 thousand children.

I mean, we keep hearing from the Muslim rape supporters about how Muslim rape of children is just a tiny minority of the child rapes in Britain, aren't we?

Isn't amazing how that other 14 thousand child rapes have gone undetected for as long as they have?

And it's all about men wanting a cheap shag.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Oh well, "they" do it.

So.....

….but it'd all the same, Mindful.

I mean, Rotherham has a population of around a hundred thousand, of which about 10000 are Muslim. Muslims raped 1400 children, so since Brits are just the same, that means the other 90% HAD to have raped 14 thousand children.

I mean, we keep hearing from the Muslim rape supporters about how Muslim rape of children is just a tiny minority of the child rapes in Britain, aren't we?

Isn't amazing how that other 14 thousand child rapes have gone undetected for as long as they have?

And it's all about men wanting a cheap shag.

One of the more repulsive rape supporters actually said the Muslims were just "tapping" those children (as in tapping some ass) and that the children involved were all indulging in consensual sex.

 

[Correll]

And yet I want to discuss all of the crimes. You are only concerned about a minority of them. You have no credibility.

You want vague, general and irrelevant discussions, where a bunch of government bureaucrats and social workers talk and talk and nothing is every actually done.


You are the one with no credibility.

You are not open to any discussion that doesnt end with stringing up Muslims.

Even in this post you are blowing hot air. You have been shown that these people have been caught,tried and given appropriate sentences. And yet you still whine on about a conspiracy. The whistleblower now works for the police in helping to identify problems and frame policy. You ignore that. You ignore everything that doesnt fit your narrow racist viewpoint.

What is the highest level politician that lost his or her job for causing this? What serious policy changes were made?


Are people still called racist for discussing the role that Muslim immigrants played in these and other social ills?


Would such as statement be considered illegal Hate Speech under your lack of free speech laws?

Which "high level politician" has ever lost their job over a paedo scandal ? You see there you go again. You are showing your racism.

Actually just google Shaun Wright south yorkshire. So there you go klan boy.

I Google Shaun Wright south yorkshire and that is ONE politician but not high level as in Government, how many British MPs have lost their jobs over the DELIBERATE ignoring of organised paedophile gangs and the DELIBERATE orchestrated sexual abuse and rape of boys and girls? ZERO. How many British MPs have lost their jobs over the many sexual abuse and rapings at childrens homes for vulnerable children? ZERO. Shaun Wright is ONE man and not a top level politician as in the British Cabinet and that is the British Cabinet of both Conservative and Labour Governments.

So, basically zero accountability or serious debate about changing the policies that caused it, as expected.

 

[Correll]

I've come across an interesting article from an interview with Nazir Afzal OBE, one of the 13 chief Crown Prosecutors in England and Wales and who was responsible for the successful conviction of the Rotherham gang, who offers a more, dare I say, "superior" perspecive than that adopted by the MSM over here, often quoted by some of the more Islamophobi contributors to this "discussion" the full article can be seen here: Nazir Afzal: ‘There is no religious basis for the abuse in Rotherham’ but here's some of the more interesting comments:

"In the aftermath of the Rochdale trial, Afzal was disturbed at the way that some responded by muddling the actions of those prosecuted with their religious backgrounds. “There is a lot of criticism of religion – namely: ‘Is this a Muslim thing?’” He recalls how after the Rochdale case, someone called the Radio 4 Any Answers programme. “He said the Qu’ran supports paedophilia. I’m not paraphrasing, that is what he said. He wasn’t cut off, he was allowed to say all manner of things.”

“There is no religious basis for this. These men were not religious. Islam says that alcohol, drugs, rape and abuse are all forbidden, yet these men were surrounded by all of these things. So how can anyone say that these men were driven by their religion to do this kind of thing?

“They were doing this horrible, terrible stuff, because of the fact that they are men. That’s sadly what the driver is here. This is about male power. These young girls have been manipulated and abused because they were easy prey for evil men.”

But he recognises that this will be a difficult issue for the British Asian community for some time. “In one case I dealt with, a British National party member was convicted of child sexual abuse. The response of the BNP was to say that he was no longer a member. The British Pakistani community cannot do that about members of their community that are involved in abuse,” he says, pointing out that they do not have the same option of neatly removing membership rights from community members involved in abuse."

also

"He notes that the amount of media attention devoted to child sex abuse cases is inconsistent. He led the legal teams that reopened and successfully prosecuted the Rochdale grooming case in 2012, over the abuse of 47 girls by a group of Asian men. “A few weeks after the Rochdale case, we dealt with a case of 10 white men in North Yorkshire who had been abusing young girls, and they were all convicted and they got long sentences. It didn’t get the level of coverage,” he says.

The vast majority of men do not commit such crimes. That man is a bigoted fool.

He never said they did; he merely explained their motivations were based more on the fact that they were evil men as opposed to evil Muslims and as far as most people can tell, Nazir Afzal is neither a fool nor a bigot. He was, after all the man who led the successful prosecution of the Rochdale gang.

You are making a distinction without a difference.

 

[Correll]

The vast majority of the crimes do not have defenders such as you. That is why discussion must focus on this portion of the crimes.


Also, fuck you, you race baiting faggot.

And yet I want to discuss all of the crimes. You are only concerned about a minority of them. You have no credibility.

You want vague, general and irrelevant discussions, where a bunch of government bureaucrats and social workers talk and talk and nothing is every actually done.


You are the one with no credibility.

You are not open to any discussion that doesnt end with stringing up Muslims.

Even in this post you are blowing hot air. You have been shown that these people have been caught,tried and given appropriate sentences. And yet you still whine on about a conspiracy. The whistleblower now works for the police in helping to identify problems and frame policy. You ignore that. You ignore everything that doesnt fit your narrow racist viewpoint.

What is the highest level politician that lost his or her job for causing this? What serious policy changes were made?

The following people lost their jobs:
Roger Stone, Labour leader of Rotherham Council,
Martin Kimber, its chief executive.
Joyce Thacker, the council's director of children's services,
Shaun Wright, the Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) for South Yorkshire Police from 2012 and Labour councillor in charge of child safety at the council from 2005 to 2010.
also:
Councillors Gwendoline Russell and Shaukat Ali and Jahangir Akhtar, former deputy council leader who had lost his council seat in 2014, were suspended from the Labour party

So, nothing that really changes anything.

 

[Correll]

You want vague, general and irrelevant discussions, where a bunch of government bureaucrats and social workers talk and talk and nothing is every actually done.


You are the one with no credibility.

You are not open to any discussion that doesnt end with stringing up Muslims.

Even in this post you are blowing hot air. You have been shown that these people have been caught,tried and given appropriate sentences. And yet you still whine on about a conspiracy. The whistleblower now works for the police in helping to identify problems and frame policy. You ignore that. You ignore everything that doesnt fit your narrow racist viewpoint.

What is the highest level politician that lost his or her job for causing this? What serious policy changes were made?


Are people still called racist for discussing the role that Muslim immigrants played in these and other social ills?


Would such as statement be considered illegal Hate Speech under your lack of free speech laws?

Which "high level politician" has ever lost their job over a paedo scandal ? You see there you go again. You are showing your racism.

Actually just google Shaun Wright south yorkshire. So there you go klan boy.

Got it. No real change, just throwing little guys under the bus, while you rally around the power structure that is really to blame.


You are a disgusting vile person, you piece of shit, placing your agenda over the safety of your nations' children.



Fuck you, and your race baiting.

Now you are moving the goalposts because your racist arguments have been shot down. (again)

Lets get this straight. There are about 6 people on this thread who want to discuss the OP - The rape of Britains children.

Then there are a bunch of low info American racists, like yourself, who want to discuss one small group of offenders and ignore all of the others.

And yet we have the agenda ? Please.......................

Point out a high ranking US cabinet member who has lost his job over paedo rapes and we can take some learning from that.

.Your use of race baiting, which is the very reason cited by the government for their allowing the rapes to go on for years,


shows that nothing has changed.


The mechanism that caused the rapes in the first place, and allowed them to continue, is still in place.



And will thus ensure that similar atrocities will occur in the future.


Which your post, you demonstrate that the problem is still completely unchecked.


That is my point.


Also, fuck you you piece of human garbage.

 

[Correll]

You are not open to any discussion that doesnt end with stringing up Muslims.

Even in this post you are blowing hot air. You have been shown that these people have been caught,tried and given appropriate sentences. And yet you still whine on about a conspiracy. The whistleblower now works for the police in helping to identify problems and frame policy. You ignore that. You ignore everything that doesnt fit your narrow racist viewpoint.

What is the highest level politician that lost his or her job for causing this? What serious policy changes were made?


Are people still called racist for discussing the role that Muslim immigrants played in these and other social ills?


Would such as statement be considered illegal Hate Speech under your lack of free speech laws?

Which "high level politician" has ever lost their job over a paedo scandal ? You see there you go again. You are showing your racism.

Actually just google Shaun Wright south yorkshire. So there you go klan boy.

Got it. No real change, just throwing little guys under the bus, while you rally around the power structure that is really to blame.


You are a disgusting vile person, you piece of shit, placing your agenda over the safety of your nations' children.



Fuck you, and your race baiting.

Now you are moving the goalposts because your racist arguments have been shot down. (again)

Lets get this straight. There are about 6 people on this thread who want to discuss the OP - The rape of Britains children.

Then there are a bunch of low info American racists, like yourself, who want to discuss one small group of offenders and ignore all of the others.

And yet we have the agenda ? Please.......................

Point out a high ranking US cabinet member who has lost his job over paedo rapes and we can take some learning from that.

Of course there is an agenda.

Yours is to lie about the extent of child rape being committed by Mulims in order to support the peeps .

1400 child rapes in Rothham, alone, yet all you supporters of Muslim rape gangs can do is to try to normalize them by comparing them to isolated acts that are magnitudes less frequent and with utterly different motivations and m.o. involved .

And that 1400 is an admitted LOW estimate by the government. Just saying.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

What is the highest level politician that lost his or her job for causing this? What serious policy changes were made?


Are people still called racist for discussing the role that Muslim immigrants played in these and other social ills?


Would such as statement be considered illegal Hate Speech under your lack of free speech laws?

Which "high level politician" has ever lost their job over a paedo scandal ? You see there you go again. You are showing your racism.

Actually just google Shaun Wright south yorkshire. So there you go klan boy.

Got it. No real change, just throwing little guys under the bus, while you rally around the power structure that is really to blame.


You are a disgusting vile person, you piece of shit, placing your agenda over the safety of your nations' children.



Fuck you, and your race baiting.

Now you are moving the goalposts because your racist arguments have been shot down. (again)

Lets get this straight. There are about 6 people on this thread who want to discuss the OP - The rape of Britains children.

Then there are a bunch of low info American racists, like yourself, who want to discuss one small group of offenders and ignore all of the others.

And yet we have the agenda ? Please.......................

Point out a high ranking US cabinet member who has lost his job over paedo rapes and we can take some learning from that.

Of course there is an agenda.

Yours is to lie about the extent of child rape being committed by Mulims in order to support the peeps .

1400 child rapes in Rothham, alone, yet all you supporters of Muslim rape gangs can do is to try to normalize them by comparing them to isolated acts that are magnitudes less frequent and with utterly different motivations and m.o. involved .

And that 1400 is an admitted LOW estimate by the government. Just saying.

Exactly.

Yet these child rape defenders try to justify them by pointing out some cases where non Muslims commit similar (and mostly far less violent) acts.

Whether defending Muslims raping children, Muslims indulging in mass murder of infidels or Muslims killing girls for honor, giving clitorectomies to girls, tossing gays off roofs, killing people for apostasy or any other 7th century behavior, it's always the same playbook -- defend the action by indulging in an intentionally false comparison to another group.

It is the fact that the deceit is quite intentional that provides the proof of support. If they were fair minded individuals, they would note the vast difference between 1400 (or more) BRITISH children being raped by Muslims out of a population of 10000 Muslims and a few dozen British children raped by Brits with few or NO Muslim victims out of a population of 60 Million Brits. They are all terrifying and horrible acts, but the Muslim ones are magnitudes more prevalent, much more violent (have any of these rape supporters read the reports?) and involve the rape of British children instead of children from their own community.

They are here to defend Muslim rape culture, however, and so they are unwilling to be even remotely honest about it. They call others racist for not supporting the rapists like they do, while ignoring the facts that the very acts they are defending are the most despicable acts of racism imaginable.

Once again, if white people were raping Muslim children to this degree, these child rape supporters would be all over it in a heartbeat. Their tiny little brains cannot anything but identity politics, however and so the identity of the perps is all that matter, that identity making them inviolate. .

 

[Coyote]

The hypocrisy of the Left. Exposed by the Muslim grooming gangs.

Telford and the Left | The Spectator

The ending of this wonderful article is so true, and so apt:

One piece of evidence was an incident in which one of the perpetrators was caught by a white, female ticket inspector travelling on public transport without a ticket. He yelled at her, ‘All white women are only good for one thing, for men like me to f–k and use as trash, that is all women like you are worth.’

To the minority of Muslim men who still subscribe to this attitude, white, unveiled females are neither chaste not protected, and are as such easy targets for sex. But the Left, while perfectly happy to screech about ‘white male privilege’, launch royal commissions into the Catholic Church, and fabricate statistics about ‘rape culture’ in residential colleges, continues to turn a blind eye when bad behaviour comes from one of their protected identity groups. To the Left, Islam is immune from critique, no matter the crime.

Politicians in the UK must join Lucy Allan and publicly condemn this appalling cultural trope. This archaic mentality must be identified for what it is, rooted out, and quashed. If not, the suffering of the Telford girls, and thousands like them, will continue to ooze along.

Have you noticed the moral equivalence here? Bringing the white gang rapings and priest paedophiles into the mix. Spread the blame game around.

I wonder, if we were discussing one of those other issues, someone would mix metaphors by referring to the Pakistani Muslim activities during the argument.

I very much doubt it.

You seem to be suggesting there is some sort moral difference in gang rapes depending on the race or ethnicity or religion of the perpetrator.

 

[Coyote]

I've come across an interesting article from an interview with Nazir Afzal OBE, one of the 13 chief Crown Prosecutors in England and Wales and who was responsible for the successful conviction of the Rotherham gang, who offers a more, dare I say, "superior" perspecive than that adopted by the MSM over here, often quoted by some of the more Islamophobi contributors to this "discussion" the full article can be seen here: Nazir Afzal: ‘There is no religious basis for the abuse in Rotherham’ but here's some of the more interesting comments:

"In the aftermath of the Rochdale trial, Afzal was disturbed at the way that some responded by muddling the actions of those prosecuted with their religious backgrounds. “There is a lot of criticism of religion – namely: ‘Is this a Muslim thing?’” He recalls how after the Rochdale case, someone called the Radio 4 Any Answers programme. “He said the Qu’ran supports paedophilia. I’m not paraphrasing, that is what he said. He wasn’t cut off, he was allowed to say all manner of things.”

“There is no religious basis for this. These men were not religious. Islam says that alcohol, drugs, rape and abuse are all forbidden, yet these men were surrounded by all of these things. So how can anyone say that these men were driven by their religion to do this kind of thing?

“They were doing this horrible, terrible stuff, because of the fact that they are men. That’s sadly what the driver is here. This is about male power. These young girls have been manipulated and abused because they were easy prey for evil men.”

But he recognises that this will be a difficult issue for the British Asian community for some time. “In one case I dealt with, a British National party member was convicted of child sexual abuse. The response of the BNP was to say that he was no longer a member. The British Pakistani community cannot do that about members of their community that are involved in abuse,” he says, pointing out that they do not have the same option of neatly removing membership rights from community members involved in abuse."

also

"He notes that the amount of media attention devoted to child sex abuse cases is inconsistent. He led the legal teams that reopened and successfully prosecuted the Rochdale grooming case in 2012, over the abuse of 47 girls by a group of Asian men. “A few weeks after the Rochdale case, we dealt with a case of 10 white men in North Yorkshire who had been abusing young girls, and they were all convicted and they got long sentences. It didn’t get the level of coverage,” he says.

The vast majority of men do not commit such crimes. That man is a bigoted fool.

He never said they did; he merely explained their motivations were based more on the fact that they were evil men as opposed to evil Muslims and as far as most people can tell, Nazir Afzal is neither a fool nor a bigot. He was, after all the man who led the successful prosecution of the Rochdale gang.

And add to these evil men only represent something like 0.01% of the UK Asian population.

 

[Coyote]

1. Convince police and social workers that they will not be punished for addressing the problem correctly. This should include repealing "hate speech" laws that put people (reporters) at legal risk.

2. Make it acceptable to push back against developments such as all the taxis being Muslim.

3. Deport everyone that can be deported.

4. Stop importing more of them.

So it IS about Muslims. Deport every Muslim that can be? Is that what everyone means?

In the meantime you marginalize the more significant problems (police funding, social ills)...

Adressing the problem "correctly" means what...calling it a Muslim problem? Scapegoating an entire community?

In Western nations WHY do the Muslim paedophiles ONLY target Non Muslim WHITE girls? Why do they not target young Muslim girls to get drunk and give drugs to and gang rape?

They do abuse Muslim girls, where do you get the idea they only target white girls?

Beyond Rotherham: Muslims are also silent victims of sexual abuse | Iman Amrani

The Rotherham Rape Ring did select by race. I dont' know about the others.


That Muslims also have a separate issue with internal sexual abuse, is a separate issue.

Those girls were white trash to them.

They were to a lot of people. That is why they were not taken seriously.

 

[Mindful]

The hypocrisy of the Left. Exposed by the Muslim grooming gangs.

Telford and the Left | The Spectator

The ending of this wonderful article is so true, and so apt:

One piece of evidence was an incident in which one of the perpetrators was caught by a white, female ticket inspector travelling on public transport without a ticket. He yelled at her, ‘All white women are only good for one thing, for men like me to f–k and use as trash, that is all women like you are worth.’

To the minority of Muslim men who still subscribe to this attitude, white, unveiled females are neither chaste not protected, and are as such easy targets for sex. But the Left, while perfectly happy to screech about ‘white male privilege’, launch royal commissions into the Catholic Church, and fabricate statistics about ‘rape culture’ in residential colleges, continues to turn a blind eye when bad behaviour comes from one of their protected identity groups. To the Left, Islam is immune from critique, no matter the crime.

Politicians in the UK must join Lucy Allan and publicly condemn this appalling cultural trope. This archaic mentality must be identified for what it is, rooted out, and quashed. If not, the suffering of the Telford girls, and thousands like them, will continue to ooze along.

Have you noticed the moral equivalence here? Bringing the white gang rapings and priest paedophiles into the mix. Spread the blame game around.

I wonder, if we were discussing one of those other issues, someone would mix metaphors by referring to the Pakistani Muslim activities during the argument.

I very much doubt it.

You seem to be suggesting there is some sort moral difference in gang rapes depending on the race or ethnicity or religion of the perpetrator.

No I'm not.

 

[Mindful]

Some distinctions to be made:

A Sikh group is urging politicians not to describe the Rotherham grooming gang as “Asian” as the term is too vague and “besmirches” communities.

Four of the six people convicted offences including rape and assault as part of years of sexual abuse in the Yorkshire town were of Pakistani heritage, while two others were British women.


Bhai Amrik Singh, chairman of the Sikh Federation UK said he hoped their combined prison sentences of more than 100 years would give a measure of justice to “ victims that have endured more than a decade of violence and horrific sexual abuse”.

Police on Rotherham conviction

“We have learnt the perpetrators of these crimes regarded themselves as above the law as the authorities were supposedly worried about race relations and turned a blind eye despite repeated warnings,” he added

“One of the demands in the Sikh Manifesto that we published a year ago before the General Election was that the government should encourage public bodies and the media to abandon the use of the term ‘Asian’ when describing perpetrators for reasons of political correctness.

“If the four men that have been found guilty and carried out the abuse were Pakistani Muslims, this is how they should be described and not called Asian.”


A Sikh group wants politicians to stop describing the Rotherham grooming gang as 'Asian'

 

[SweetSue92]

Some distinctions to be made:

A Sikh group is urging politicians not to describe the Rotherham grooming gang as “Asian” as the term is too vague and “besmirches” communities.

Four of the six people convicted offences including rape and assault as part of years of sexual abuse in the Yorkshire town were of Pakistani heritage, while two others were British women.


Bhai Amrik Singh, chairman of the Sikh Federation UK said he hoped their combined prison sentences of more than 100 years would give a measure of justice to “ victims that have endured more than a decade of violence and horrific sexual abuse”.

Police on Rotherham conviction

“We have learnt the perpetrators of these crimes regarded themselves as above the law as the authorities were supposedly worried about race relations and turned a blind eye despite repeated warnings,” he added

“One of the demands in the Sikh Manifesto that we published a year ago before the General Election was that the government should encourage public bodies and the media to abandon the use of the term ‘Asian’ when describing perpetrators for reasons of political correctness.

“If the four men that have been found guilty and carried out the abuse were Pakistani Muslims, this is how they should be described and not called Asian.”


A Sikh group wants politicians to stop describing the Rotherham grooming gang as 'Asian'

That "Asian" moniker is one of the dumbest PC things I have ever read. Is Pakistan even technically an Asian nation? Here in the states we definitely consider it Middle Eastern, though I know "Middle East" is not a continent. But when we think "Asia" we think China, Japan, Indonesia, the island nations, definitely not Pakistan.

Way to be so PC that you lump in an entire continent so as to avoid saying exactly who is at fault. Absolutely ridiculous, and I don't blame others for being upset.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

And yet I want to discuss all of the crimes. You are only concerned about a minority of them. You have no credibility.

You want vague, general and irrelevant discussions, where a bunch of government bureaucrats and social workers talk and talk and nothing is every actually done.


You are the one with no credibility.

You are not open to any discussion that doesnt end with stringing up Muslims.

Even in this post you are blowing hot air. You have been shown that these people have been caught,tried and given appropriate sentences. And yet you still whine on about a conspiracy. The whistleblower now works for the police in helping to identify problems and frame policy. You ignore that. You ignore everything that doesnt fit your narrow racist viewpoint.

What is the highest level politician that lost his or her job for causing this? What serious policy changes were made?

The following people lost their jobs:
Roger Stone, Labour leader of Rotherham Council,
Martin Kimber, its chief executive.
Joyce Thacker, the council's director of children's services,
Shaun Wright, the Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) for South Yorkshire Police from 2012 and Labour councillor in charge of child safety at the council from 2005 to 2010.
also:
Councillors Gwendoline Russell and Shaukat Ali and Jahangir Akhtar, former deputy council leader who had lost his council seat in 2014, were suspended from the Labour party

So, nothing that really changes anything.

You are moving the goalposts again. Who else was left ?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What I would like to see is jail time for those who knew about the rapes and did nothing, with very lengthy jail time for those who actually prevented others from doing something about it.

Muslims rape children in such enormous numbers as they do, do so as an act of intimidation aimed against the British and with full knowledge that there are so many like those in this thread who support their doing it. The only way for the British to prevent it is for the good British people to round up all the snakes in their system who have been enabling it and do something about THEM.

If the Rotherham protective services people were behind bars for their role in collaborating with the Muslim rapists, you can bet that the next group responsible will think twice before collaborating with them.

Why do you focus on Rotherham ? Could those solutions not apply to all the other scandals ?

I focus on it because it is so glaring and because it provides insight into the magnitude of the problem with Muslims raping children .

Of course, I would envision this as part of the solution for the whole country. It would only be part of a solution and to be used with the curtailment of Muslim immigration until such a time as the current Muslim population is fully integrated (3/4 th are not), abandoning the stupidity of multiculturalism and ending the subjugation of liberal values to Islamic ones, but it would be a start.

One enormous problem is a fast growing Islamic population that wants nothing to do with liberal values the bigger problem lies with you brainwashed useful idiots that defend Islam over your very
own countrymen .

The thing is that if they did stop all Muslim immigration and also deported all Muslims out of Britain they still would have a problem with paedophiles and grooming gangs and paedophile rings. I now think it is not a good idea to put paedophiles and underage sex abusers into different compartments eg. Muslim paedophiles are not different from paedophile Priests and are not different from Methodist paedophiles and are not different from Jewish paedophiles etc they are ALL the SAME they are ALL monsters and I think more productive if a society begin to deal with paedophiles as ONE group it does not help I think to seperate these monsters into different groups based on skin colour and religion. This is now my opinion.

I dont know what the solution is...but it has to be holistic. It has to be able to identify and protect vulnerable children and have stiff penalties to those who buy and sell. Part of the problem to is many of these gangs cross borders. Women and children are trafficked from Russia and Eastern European countries, from Libya and Syria where conditions are brutal and largely lawless, and Thailand and Myanmar so stopping these things is rather like fighting a hydra. One the things I read is human trafficking overall generates a huge amount of money, more so rhan drugs so you can imagine the types of people involved for whom children for sex is nothing more than a financial transaction.

For me to be on topic again in this thread this I refer to the Kincora Boys Home scandal, this in Northern Ireland during the 1960s and 1970s and in the 1980s again the situation that the police and authorities knew the sexual abuse including rape was happening for many decades and this did zero and also again top politicians, judges, military and the police visited the Kincora Boys Home to sexually abuse and rape boys.

What to think of this? I think the logical conclusion is that in Britain at a certain time it was Institutionalised Acceptance of sexual abuse of vulnerable children, of children who were disturbed in the mind and who they considered Trouble Children who did not behave as good children and so nobody wanted them and with this nobody care what happen to them and so they could be used and abused and it all accepted and covered up.

Kincora Boys' Home - Wikipedia

Boy sexually assaulted on first day at Kincora boys' home

The MI5 blackmail of top paedophile politicians:

Inquiry to examine abuse claims at Kincora Boy's Home

Kincora boys' home abuser 'tried to get child to have sex with animal'

Kincora is still a live issue in my opinion. And more damning of the British state than any other scandal. Documents continue to be suppressed and some point soon all the victims will be dead.
And it goes right to the top of the establishment.

 

[Coyote]

Some distinctions to be made:

A Sikh group is urging politicians not to describe the Rotherham grooming gang as “Asian” as the term is too vague and “besmirches” communities.

Four of the six people convicted offences including rape and assault as part of years of sexual abuse in the Yorkshire town were of Pakistani heritage, while two others were British women.


Bhai Amrik Singh, chairman of the Sikh Federation UK said he hoped their combined prison sentences of more than 100 years would give a measure of justice to “ victims that have endured more than a decade of violence and horrific sexual abuse”.

Police on Rotherham conviction

“We have learnt the perpetrators of these crimes regarded themselves as above the law as the authorities were supposedly worried about race relations and turned a blind eye despite repeated warnings,” he added

“One of the demands in the Sikh Manifesto that we published a year ago before the General Election was that the government should encourage public bodies and the media to abandon the use of the term ‘Asian’ when describing perpetrators for reasons of political correctness.

“If the four men that have been found guilty and carried out the abuse were Pakistani Muslims, this is how they should be described and not called Asian.”


A Sikh group wants politicians to stop describing the Rotherham grooming gang as 'Asian'

Why does their religion need to be referenced? Were the two women described as European Christians?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Some distinctions to be made:

A Sikh group is urging politicians not to describe the Rotherham grooming gang as “Asian” as the term is too vague and “besmirches” communities.

Four of the six people convicted offences including rape and assault as part of years of sexual abuse in the Yorkshire town were of Pakistani heritage, while two others were British women.


Bhai Amrik Singh, chairman of the Sikh Federation UK said he hoped their combined prison sentences of more than 100 years would give a measure of justice to “ victims that have endured more than a decade of violence and horrific sexual abuse”.

Police on Rotherham conviction

“We have learnt the perpetrators of these crimes regarded themselves as above the law as the authorities were supposedly worried about race relations and turned a blind eye despite repeated warnings,” he added

“One of the demands in the Sikh Manifesto that we published a year ago before the General Election was that the government should encourage public bodies and the media to abandon the use of the term ‘Asian’ when describing perpetrators for reasons of political correctness.

“If the four men that have been found guilty and carried out the abuse were Pakistani Muslims, this is how they should be described and not called Asian.”


A Sikh group wants politicians to stop describing the Rotherham grooming gang as 'Asian'

Why does their religion need to be referenced? Were the two women described as European Christians?

The Sikhs have a point. The friends of tommy robinson are as thick as shit and cannot distinguish between sikhs and muslims.
They also struggle with identifying paedos. Read about this famous story.
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