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Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
well I guess your moving to finland,,,dont let the door hit you where the good lord split youWe only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
well I guess your moving to finland,,,dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you
well I guess your moving to finland,,,dont let the door hit you where the good lord split youWe only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
However, it is. There are plenty of sites that describe the same stories. The evidence is clear. All other industrial countries have universal healthcare. The medical results are far above ours.well I guess your moving to finland,,,dont let the door hit you where the good lord split youWe only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
These lefties have GOT to stop assuming that because a website has "news" in its title, that means it's an actual news source.
However, it is. There are plenty of sites that describe the same stories. The evidence is clear. All other industrial countries have universal healthcare. The medical results are far above ours.well I guess your moving to finland,,,dont let the door hit you where the good lord split youWe only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
These lefties have GOT to stop assuming that because a website has "news" in its title, that means it's an actual news source.
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
Shit, they're lucky to have the $60 left over to pay for having the baby, after all the tax fleecing they take.We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
People in Finland pay over half of their income in taxes, plus a 24% VAT tax. The government takes away most of their money and then gives them back a fraction in services.
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
However, it is. There are plenty of sites that describe the same stories. The evidence is clear. All other industrial countries have universal healthcare. The medical results are far above ours.
[/QUOTE]We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
However, it is. There are plenty of sites that describe the same stories. The evidence is clear. All other industrial countries have universal healthcare. The medical results are far above ours.well I guess your moving to finland,,,dont let the door hit you where the good lord split youWe only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
These lefties have GOT to stop assuming that because a website has "news" in its title, that means it's an actual news source.
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
People in Finland pay over half of their income in taxes, plus a 24% VAT tax. The government takes away most of their money and then gives them back a fraction in services.
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
People in Finland pay over half of their income in taxes, plus a 24% VAT tax. The government takes away most of their money and then gives them back a fraction in services.
Exactly. When they talk about "costs less than $60", what they mean is that's what you're going to pay out of pocket at the time of service. They never bother to factor together how much you've paid in taxes over the years, or how much the government is paying out of those tax dollars for that birth. Granted, we probably still do bill third-party payers more for it here, because we don't turn our medical personnel into civil servants.
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
People in Finland pay over half of their income in taxes, plus a 24% VAT tax. The government takes away most of their money and then gives them back a fraction in services.
Exactly. When they talk about "costs less than $60", what they mean is that's what you're going to pay out of pocket at the time of service. They never bother to factor together how much you've paid in taxes over the years, or how much the government is paying out of those tax dollars for that birth. Granted, we probably still do bill third-party payers more for it here, because we don't turn our medical personnel into civil servants.
They're not good at math or logic. It's the same thing with Electric Cars. They are actually worse for the environment when one does the full energy and pollution equation.
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.
Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
People in Finland pay over half of their income in taxes, plus a 24% VAT tax. The government takes away most of their money and then gives them back a fraction in services.
Exactly. When they talk about "costs less than $60", what they mean is that's what you're going to pay out of pocket at the time of service. They never bother to factor together how much you've paid in taxes over the years, or how much the government is paying out of those tax dollars for that birth. Granted, we probably still do bill third-party payers more for it here, because we don't turn our medical personnel into civil servants.
They're not good at math or logic. It's the same thing with Electric Cars. They are actually worse for the environment when one does the full energy and pollution equation.
They've had the same problem with recycling for years. It uses far more water to make recycled goods than it does to make new. We can plant new trees, but the water we have is all the water we're ever going to have.
By the way, let's just deal with this canard about maternal death rates, while I'm here.
Like comparisons across countries of infant mortality rates, comparisons of maternal death rates run into several snags - basically the same snags.
1) The US uses different standards of measurement than other countries do.
The CDCP defines "maternal death" as "a pregnancy-related death from the start of pregnancy though one year after end of pregnancy." The WHO, and most other countries, define it as "a pregnancy-related death from start of pregnancy to 42 days after end of pregnancy."
Think you MIGHT get higher numbers from a year than you would from 42 days?
2) The US reports maternal deaths, especially late maternal deaths, more honestly and accurately.
The Gates Foundation study, which was published in The Lancet and has been the source of so many scare stories in left-wing media of late, actually contains a section which specifically states this - and specifically lists Finland as one of the countries which does not report as honestly or accurately - but THAT part of the report never gets cited.
3) The US has several population groups, all of whom are far more at risk for maternal death than average, which Finland doesn't have.
Blacks, Asians, and Native Americans all have much higher rates of maternal death than the average. Why? No idea. But they do. And the US has large populations of all of the above factored into our maternal death rate. Finland has none of the above.
The US maternal death rate ALSO includes illegal immigrants, the vast majority of whom are from far less-developed countries and who are far less likely to seek proper medical care before and after giving birth. Finland has no such illegal immigrant problem.
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.
It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?
People in Finland pay over half of their income in taxes, plus a 24% VAT tax. The government takes away most of their money and then gives them back a fraction in services.
Exactly. When they talk about "costs less than $60", what they mean is that's what you're going to pay out of pocket at the time of service. They never bother to factor together how much you've paid in taxes over the years, or how much the government is paying out of those tax dollars for that birth. Granted, we probably still do bill third-party payers more for it here, because we don't turn our medical personnel into civil servants.
They're not good at math or logic. It's the same thing with Electric Cars. They are actually worse for the environment when one does the full energy and pollution equation.
They've had the same problem with recycling for years. It uses far more water to make recycled goods than it does to make new. We can plant new trees, but the water we have is all the water we're ever going to have.
By the way, let's just deal with this canard about maternal death rates, while I'm here.
Like comparisons across countries of infant mortality rates, comparisons of maternal death rates run into several snags - basically the same snags.
1) The US uses different standards of measurement than other countries do.
The CDCP defines "maternal death" as "a pregnancy-related death from the start of pregnancy though one year after end of pregnancy." The WHO, and most other countries, define it as "a pregnancy-related death from start of pregnancy to 42 days after end of pregnancy."
Think you MIGHT get higher numbers from a year than you would from 42 days?
2) The US reports maternal deaths, especially late maternal deaths, more honestly and accurately.
The Gates Foundation study, which was published in The Lancet and has been the source of so many scare stories in left-wing media of late, actually contains a section which specifically states this - and specifically lists Finland as one of the countries which does not report as honestly or accurately - but THAT part of the report never gets cited.
3) The US has several population groups, all of whom are far more at risk for maternal death than average, which Finland doesn't have.
Blacks, Asians, and Native Americans all have much higher rates of maternal death than the average. Why? No idea. But they do. And the US has large populations of all of the above factored into our maternal death rate. Finland has none of the above.
The US maternal death rate ALSO includes illegal immigrants, the vast majority of whom are from far less-developed countries and who are far less likely to seek proper medical care before and after giving birth. Finland has no such illegal immigrant problem.
Thank you - excellent. I've addressed the infant mortality rate issue in other threads. Some countries do not even count infant deaths for premature babies. The U.S. does.
