Israel has more than 100 drones, but where are they heading?

[RoccoR]

nicoleivy5, et al,

Actually, the Hermes Family of Tactical Unmanned Arial Vehicles (TUAVs) are not (per say) weapons systems. I'm not even sure that I've heard of a weapons package for a Hermes.

Yes, the entire Hermes Series are quite beautiful machines.

Israel has more than 100 drones, but where are they heading? - full article

When the Israeli Air Force strikes in Gaza, the military spokesman reports that the strike was carried out by an “aircraft” without elaborating.
Israel has more than 100 drones, which are estimated to take up about 70 percent of the air force’s flying time.

(COMMENT)

Our Homeland Security (Customs and Border Protection) use a Hermes.

Most Respectfully,
R

How can BOMBS BE A beautiful thing Rocco.....Methinks you are a LOONEY

(COMMENT)

Well, the Hermes family of TUAVs is multi-mission package (plug'n'play) capable of a number of mission roles. In general, the Hermes provides responsive Reconnaissance, Surveillance, and Security; Cooperative Attack; Battle Damage Assessment; and Communications Relay support to the various echelons below corps. But it is designed to be quite usefully in support of long range reconnaissance, providing special mission Low Probability of Intercept/Low Probability of Detection (LPI/LPD) and Radio Frequency Interference (RFI) Mitigation Techniques for covert and clandestine assets and stay behind operatives.

The low-probability-of-intercept radar (LPIR) is designed to be difficult to detect by passive radar detection equipment (such as a radar warning receiver – RWR) while it is searching for a target or engaged in target acquisition and tracking for other weapons systems located elsewhere; ideal for being deployed forward of rotary-wing aircraft.

Because of its extended mission endurance capacity, it can keep sensor systems on station for long periods at a time.

While some TUAVs (such as the MQ-1 Predator or the MQ-9 Reaper) do carry various light Precision-guided munitions (PGMs), the Hermes is not designed to be a weapons platform.

BTW, what is "beautiful" is in the eye of the beholder.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hossfly]

nicoleivy5, et al,

Yes, the entire Hermes Series are quite beautiful machines.

Israel has more than 100 drones, but where are they heading? - full article

When the Israeli Air Force strikes in Gaza, the military spokesman reports that the strike was carried out by an “aircraft” without elaborating.
Israel has more than 100 drones, which are estimated to take up about 70 percent of the air force’s flying time.

(COMMENT)

Our Homeland Security (Customs and Border Protection) use a Hermes.

Most Respectfully,
R

How can BOMBS BE A beautiful thing Rocco.....Methinks you are a LOONEY

One of the most beautiful bombs I have ever seen is a Hellfire missile. I remember when a Hellfire put a wheelchair into orbit. A Tomahawk missile into a military headquarters runs a close second place for beauty. Just seeing one of those bombs is better than Viagra.

 

[The Great Goose]

nicoleivy5, et al,

Yes, the entire Hermes Series are quite beautiful machines.

Israel has more than 100 drones, but where are they heading? - full article

When the Israeli Air Force strikes in Gaza, the military spokesman reports that the strike was carried out by an “aircraft” without elaborating.
Israel has more than 100 drones, which are estimated to take up about 70 percent of the air force’s flying time.

(COMMENT)

Our Homeland Security (Customs and Border Protection) use a Hermes.

Most Respectfully,
R

How can BOMBS BE A beautiful thing Rocco.....Methinks you are a LOONEY

One of the most beautiful bombs I have ever seen is a Hellfire missile. I remember when a Hellfire put a wheelchair into orbit. A Tomahawk missile into a military headquarters runs a close second place for beauty. Just seeing one of those bombs is better than Viagra.

 

[docmauser1]

Israel has more than 100 drones, but where are they heading?

Winter's coming, they're heading south.

 

[docmauser1]

nicoleivy5, et al,

Yes, the entire Hermes Series are quite beautiful machines.

Israel has more than 100 drones, but where are they heading? - full article

When the Israeli Air Force strikes in Gaza, the military spokesman reports that the strike was carried out by an “aircraft” without elaborating.
Israel has more than 100 drones, which are estimated to take up about 70 percent of the air force’s flying time.

(COMMENT)

Our Homeland Security (Customs and Border Protection) use a Hermes.

Most Respectfully,
R

How can BOMBS BE A beautiful thing Rocco.....Methinks you are a LOONEY

One of the most beautiful bombs I have ever seen is a Hellfire missile. I remember when a Hellfire put a wheelchair into orbit. A Tomahawk missile into a military headquarters runs a close second place for beauty. Just seeing one of those bombs is better than Viagra.

The Great Goose about to lift off.

 

[Bleipriester]

The Great Goose, et al,

I don't quite understand. I'm not sure I completely understand what: "We can't hold it anymore for you."

true but Israel won't last. We can't hold it anymore for you.

(COMMENT)

In 2015, the US Budget was $3.7 trillion. In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion military aid package for the period from FY2009 to FY2018 (that is $3 billion per year). What is that? (8 tenths of one percent?) What we can hold doesn't really have any thing to do with it.

In perspective, it takes about $1.5 billion to operate the White House; not counting Camp David or The Blair House.

What we should be asking is, how much will the consequences cost America if Israel has to go to war, or if Israel has to seek another benefactor (Russia as an example). What will the consequences be if Israel has to shift its Levant Gas Production trade from the European powers to Russia and China.

I don't know what the consequences will be, but over time, the US defense industry will feel the pinch as US Weapons Systems sales shift to the European consortium.

Most Respectfully,
R

I want your cash, too. See, I have no military, so I will be needing additional help besides the 10 year free cash deal you are offering.

OK then hand over 10% of your land for US military bases, give 40% of your exports to the US at cost and do our defense R&R so we dont have to. Then spend the money in our defense companies and nowhere else.


See it is not actually free money is it ?

No, no, no. I only need to spend the cash on US arms companies within the first five years of the deal. So, we have a deal. I expect the first $ 3bn to arrive within the next two weeks. There is an unused corner in my flat. Set up your base right there. I consider it additional free military aid. I don´t know if you have any use for my "exports" but you can find it always in the trash bin outside. Since the deal forbids to do research, you´ll have to do it on your own.

 

[nicoleivy5]

i also wonder where they are heading

 

[SAYIT]

i also wonder where they are heading

Like all finite things military assets are limited and, as such, are used only when and where they will be most effective. So where do you believe they are headed and why are you so concerned? Do you live in or near Israel and engage in anti-Israel terrorism?

 

[The Great Goose]

i also wonder where they are heading

Like all finite things military assets are limited and, as such, are used only when and where they will be most effective. So where do you believe they are headed and why are you so concerned? Do you live in or near Israel and engage in anti-Israel terrorism?

You sound like you are engaging in a little terrorizing yourself, mate.

 

[Daniyel]

i also wonder where they are heading

Like all finite things military assets are limited and, as such, are used only when and where they will be most effective. So where do you believe they are headed and why are you so concerned? Do you live in or near Israel and engage in anti-Israel terrorism?

You sound like you are engaging in a little terrorizing yourself, mate.

Obviously to where it would be too dangerous to send a jet, see if that fits;
1.India’s Air Force to Get 10 Killer Drones from Israel
2.US Company Objects to Israeli-German Drone Deal
3.The JPost
Makes sense?

 

[nicoleivy5]

nicoleivy5, et al,

Actually, the Hermes Family of Tactical Unmanned Arial Vehicles (TUAVs) are not (per say) weapons systems. I'm not even sure that I've heard of a weapons package for a Hermes.

Yes, the entire Hermes Series are quite beautiful machines.

Israel has more than 100 drones, but where are they heading? - full article

When the Israeli Air Force strikes in Gaza, the military spokesman reports that the strike was carried out by an “aircraft” without elaborating.
Israel has more than 100 drones, which are estimated to take up about 70 percent of the air force’s flying time.

(COMMENT)

Our Homeland Security (Customs and Border Protection) use a Hermes.

Most Respectfully,
R

How can BOMBS BE A beautiful thing Rocco.....Methinks you are a LOONEY

(COMMENT)

Well, the Hermes family of TUAVs is multi-mission package (plug'n'play) capable of a number of mission roles. In general, the Hermes provides responsive Reconnaissance, Surveillance, and Security; Cooperative Attack; Battle Damage Assessment; and Communications Relay support to the various echelons below corps. But it is designed to be quite usefully in support of long range reconnaissance, providing special mission Low Probability of Intercept/Low Probability of Detection (LPI/LPD) and Radio Frequency Interference (RFI) Mitigation Techniques for covert and clandestine assets and stay behind operatives.

The low-probability-of-intercept radar (LPIR) is designed to be difficult to detect by passive radar detection equipment (such as a radar warning receiver – RWR) while it is searching for a target or engaged in target acquisition and tracking for other weapons systems located elsewhere; ideal for being deployed forward of rotary-wing aircraft.

Because of its extended mission endurance capacity, it can keep sensor systems on station for long periods at a time.

While some TUAVs (such as the MQ-1 Predator or the MQ-9 Reaper) do carry various light Precision-guided munitions (PGMs), the Hermes is not designed to be a weapons platform.

BTW, what is "beautiful" is in the eye of the beholder.

Most Respectfully,
R

real talk

 

[Phoenall]

The Great Goose, et al,

I don't quite understand. I'm not sure I completely understand what: "We can't hold it anymore for you."

true but Israel won't last. We can't hold it anymore for you.

(COMMENT)

In 2015, the US Budget was $3.7 trillion. In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion military aid package for the period from FY2009 to FY2018 (that is $3 billion per year). What is that? (8 tenths of one percent?) What we can hold doesn't really have any thing to do with it.

In perspective, it takes about $1.5 billion to operate the White House; not counting Camp David or The Blair House.

What we should be asking is, how much will the consequences cost America if Israel has to go to war, or if Israel has to seek another benefactor (Russia as an example). What will the consequences be if Israel has to shift its Levant Gas Production trade from the European powers to Russia and China.

I don't know what the consequences will be, but over time, the US defense industry will feel the pinch as US Weapons Systems sales shift to the European consortium.

Most Respectfully,
R

I want your cash, too. See, I have no military, so I will be needing additional help besides the 10 year free cash deal you are offering.

OK then hand over 10% of your land for US military bases, give 40% of your exports to the US at cost and do our defense R&R so we dont have to. Then spend the money in our defense companies and nowhere else.


See it is not actually free money is it ?

No, no, no. I only need to spend the cash on US arms companies within the first five years of the deal. So, we have a deal. I expect the first $ 3bn to arrive within the next two weeks. There is an unused corner in my flat. Set up your base right there. I consider it additional free military aid. I don´t know if you have any use for my "exports" but you can find it always in the trash bin outside. Since the deal forbids to do research, you´ll have to do it on your own.

No all or nothing, unless you have Oil then you can call the shots

 

[Bleipriester]

The Great Goose, et al,

I don't quite understand. I'm not sure I completely understand what: "We can't hold it anymore for you."

true but Israel won't last. We can't hold it anymore for you.

(COMMENT)

In 2015, the US Budget was $3.7 trillion. In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion military aid package for the period from FY2009 to FY2018 (that is $3 billion per year). What is that? (8 tenths of one percent?) What we can hold doesn't really have any thing to do with it.

In perspective, it takes about $1.5 billion to operate the White House; not counting Camp David or The Blair House.

What we should be asking is, how much will the consequences cost America if Israel has to go to war, or if Israel has to seek another benefactor (Russia as an example). What will the consequences be if Israel has to shift its Levant Gas Production trade from the European powers to Russia and China.

I don't know what the consequences will be, but over time, the US defense industry will feel the pinch as US Weapons Systems sales shift to the European consortium.

Most Respectfully,
R

I want your cash, too. See, I have no military, so I will be needing additional help besides the 10 year free cash deal you are offering.

OK then hand over 10% of your land for US military bases, give 40% of your exports to the US at cost and do our defense R&R so we dont have to. Then spend the money in our defense companies and nowhere else.


See it is not actually free money is it ?

No, no, no. I only need to spend the cash on US arms companies within the first five years of the deal. So, we have a deal. I expect the first $ 3bn to arrive within the next two weeks. There is an unused corner in my flat. Set up your base right there. I consider it additional free military aid. I don´t know if you have any use for my "exports" but you can find it always in the trash bin outside. Since the deal forbids to do research, you´ll have to do it on your own.

No all or nothing, unless you have Oil then you can call the shots

Nope, your conditions are made up. Not real. I´m just taking the free cash. Once it has arrived we can talk.

 

[Phoenall]

The Great Goose, et al,

I don't quite understand. I'm not sure I completely understand what: "We can't hold it anymore for you."

(COMMENT)

In 2015, the US Budget was $3.7 trillion. In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion military aid package for the period from FY2009 to FY2018 (that is $3 billion per year). What is that? (8 tenths of one percent?) What we can hold doesn't really have any thing to do with it.

In perspective, it takes about $1.5 billion to operate the White House; not counting Camp David or The Blair House.

What we should be asking is, how much will the consequences cost America if Israel has to go to war, or if Israel has to seek another benefactor (Russia as an example). What will the consequences be if Israel has to shift its Levant Gas Production trade from the European powers to Russia and China.

I don't know what the consequences will be, but over time, the US defense industry will feel the pinch as US Weapons Systems sales shift to the European consortium.

Most Respectfully,
R

I want your cash, too. See, I have no military, so I will be needing additional help besides the 10 year free cash deal you are offering.

OK then hand over 10% of your land for US military bases, give 40% of your exports to the US at cost and do our defense R&R so we dont have to. Then spend the money in our defense companies and nowhere else.


See it is not actually free money is it ?

No, no, no. I only need to spend the cash on US arms companies within the first five years of the deal. So, we have a deal. I expect the first $ 3bn to arrive within the next two weeks. There is an unused corner in my flat. Set up your base right there. I consider it additional free military aid. I don´t know if you have any use for my "exports" but you can find it always in the trash bin outside. Since the deal forbids to do research, you´ll have to do it on your own.

No all or nothing, unless you have Oil then you can call the shots

Nope, your conditions are made up. Not real. I´m just taking the free cash. Once it has arrived we can talk.

That is the deal Israel has apart from the deal struck by Jordan and Egypt that paid them all equal amounts, and that was demanded by Egypt and Jordan as a per-requisite for them signing the peace deal.

 

[Bleipriester]

I want your cash, too. See, I have no military, so I will be needing additional help besides the 10 year free cash deal you are offering.

OK then hand over 10% of your land for US military bases, give 40% of your exports to the US at cost and do our defense R&R so we dont have to. Then spend the money in our defense companies and nowhere else.


See it is not actually free money is it ?

No, no, no. I only need to spend the cash on US arms companies within the first five years of the deal. So, we have a deal. I expect the first $ 3bn to arrive within the next two weeks. There is an unused corner in my flat. Set up your base right there. I consider it additional free military aid. I don´t know if you have any use for my "exports" but you can find it always in the trash bin outside. Since the deal forbids to do research, you´ll have to do it on your own.

No all or nothing, unless you have Oil then you can call the shots

Nope, your conditions are made up. Not real. I´m just taking the free cash. Once it has arrived we can talk.

That is the deal Israel has apart from the deal struck by Jordan and Egypt that paid them all equal amounts, and that was demanded by Egypt and Jordan as a per-requisite for them signing the peace deal.

You should know form a previous discussion that I am informed about the deal.

 

[The Great Goose]

OK then hand over 10% of your land for US military bases, give 40% of your exports to the US at cost and do our defense R&R so we dont have to. Then spend the money in our defense companies and nowhere else.


See it is not actually free money is it ?

No, no, no. I only need to spend the cash on US arms companies within the first five years of the deal. So, we have a deal. I expect the first $ 3bn to arrive within the next two weeks. There is an unused corner in my flat. Set up your base right there. I consider it additional free military aid. I don´t know if you have any use for my "exports" but you can find it always in the trash bin outside. Since the deal forbids to do research, you´ll have to do it on your own.

No all or nothing, unless you have Oil then you can call the shots

Nope, your conditions are made up. Not real. I´m just taking the free cash. Once it has arrived we can talk.

That is the deal Israel has apart from the deal struck by Jordan and Egypt that paid them all equal amounts, and that was demanded by Egypt and Jordan as a per-requisite for them signing the peace deal.

You should know form a previous discussion that I am informed about the deal.

 

[Divine Wind]

Israel has more than 100 drones, but where are they heading? - full article

When the Israeli Air Force strikes in Gaza, the military spokesman reports that the strike was carried out by an “aircraft” without elaborating.
Israel has more than 100 drones, which are estimated to take up about 70 percent of the air force’s flying time.

Awesome. What's the problem? Are you implying Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself against terrorist rocket attacks?

 

[Bleipriester]

No, no, no. I only need to spend the cash on US arms companies within the first five years of the deal. So, we have a deal. I expect the first $ 3bn to arrive within the next two weeks. There is an unused corner in my flat. Set up your base right there. I consider it additional free military aid. I don´t know if you have any use for my "exports" but you can find it always in the trash bin outside. Since the deal forbids to do research, you´ll have to do it on your own.

No all or nothing, unless you have Oil then you can call the shots

Nope, your conditions are made up. Not real. I´m just taking the free cash. Once it has arrived we can talk.

That is the deal Israel has apart from the deal struck by Jordan and Egypt that paid them all equal amounts, and that was demanded by Egypt and Jordan as a per-requisite for them signing the peace deal.

You should know form a previous discussion that I am informed about the deal.

Maybe it is time get some of his books...

 

[The Great Goose]

No all or nothing, unless you have Oil then you can call the shots

Nope, your conditions are made up. Not real. I´m just taking the free cash. Once it has arrived we can talk.

That is the deal Israel has apart from the deal struck by Jordan and Egypt that paid them all equal amounts, and that was demanded by Egypt and Jordan as a per-requisite for them signing the peace deal.

You should know form a previous discussion that I am informed about the deal.

Maybe it is time get some of his books...

yeah now that you mention it, I'm sure there's a treasure trove of insight in there.

 

[Bleipriester]

Nope, your conditions are made up. Not real. I´m just taking the free cash. Once it has arrived we can talk.

That is the deal Israel has apart from the deal struck by Jordan and Egypt that paid them all equal amounts, and that was demanded by Egypt and Jordan as a per-requisite for them signing the peace deal.

You should know form a previous discussion that I am informed about the deal.

Maybe it is time get some of his books...

yeah now that you mention it, I'm sure there's a treasure trove of insight in there.

Certainly. Most of the stuff requires you to already have a big bag full of cash, though. That´s at least what I guess.