Islam is not the problem. You are.

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Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism
 
Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.
 
Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

Delta Dawn------you know nothing about islam You are quoting Islamic propaganda "inclined toward peace" in Islamic law means------live in
in tribute to Islamic RULE. Nothing new-----the Romans felt the same way
about the people of their EMPIRE -------""just submit to roman rule peacefully and
everything will work out fine-----pay tribute and keep quiet------if you are really good---and do roman things -----someday you can be a citizen" Muslims did not
invent the idea of DHIMMIA and "conversion to......" They got it from ROME
 
Do you really think if Islam condoned and taught violence, that with all the Muslims in the US we wouldn't have it infinitely worse?
 
Do you really think if Islam condoned and taught violence, that with all the Muslims in the US we wouldn't have it infinitely worse?

your are continuing to quote Islamic propaganda------"if muslims oppressed then there would be no Christians or jews left in the world so kiss Islamic ass"-----I heard
that crap long ago--------I have been interacting with muslims for almost 45 years, Before that I heard from my wasp Nazi neighbors------"we saved N^%%#rs from
Africa and gave them Christianity"
 
Do you really think if Islam condoned and taught violence, that with all the Muslims in the US we wouldn't have it infinitely worse?
Muslims are allowed by the koran to obey foreign laws when they are in that country. Plus, the US HAS been attacked by muslims, and they would attack more if the NSA wasn't tapping every last one of their phones.
 
Every time you blame Islam when something like this happens you make a terrorist orgasm. This is how terrorism works people. Attack some civilian target hurting innocent people, this scares everyone else being just ike those victims, then fear become anger and people lash out predictably like a struck animal.

Short of being ready-reserve forces who can do something about it, all we can do is NOT do what the terrorists are hoping for. They WANT you to blame Islam because there's 1.6 billion of them who have no interest in becomming terrorists UNTIL the non-Muslim world paints the entire faith as an enemy. NOW they're interested in fighting back. And that's EXACTLY what terrorists hope for.

So long as terrorists are on their own, villified by actual Islam they're power is finite and they're easily dealt with. But if they can draw upon numbers...Then kids, you aint seen nothing yet.
 
Every time you blame Islam when something like this happens you make a terrorist orgasm. This is how terrorism works people. Attack some civilian target hurting innocent people, this scares everyone else being just ike those victims, then fear become anger and people lash out predictably like a struck animal.

Short of being ready-reserve forces who can do something about it, all we can do is NOT do what the terrorists are hoping for. They WANT you to blame Islam because there's 1.6 billion of them who have no interest in becomming terrorists UNTIL the non-Muslim world paints the entire faith as an enemy. NOW they're interested in fighting back. And that's EXACTLY what terrorists hope for.

So long as terrorists are on their own, villified by actual Islam they're power is finite and they're easily dealt with. But if they can draw upon numbers...Then kids, you aint seen nothing yet.
Go find me 3 of your non-terrorist muslims who aren't happy with what just happened in France (with a passed lie detector test to prove it) and we'll talk. Good luck. Thread closed until further notice.
 
Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism
This statement coming from a person who denigrates Christianity every possible way he can think of, has absolutely no validity.
 
Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

That entire comment is an oxymoron. Good grief
 
You guys must actually be jihadis because you're doing everything that benefits them. Shoudl be arrested for giving material aid and comfort the enemy.
 
Two subjects make for interesting reading:
Abrogation: "refers to one Qur'anic verse superseding another, and is itself supported by Qur'anic verses and various hadith narrations."
Abrogation (Naskh) - WikiIslam

and

The chronological order of the koran: "The Qur'an is not in chronological order, but arranged roughly longest surah (chapter) to the shortest."
Chronological Order of the Qur'an - WikiIslam

Some scholars contend that the more peaceful verses of the koran written in Mecca in an attempt to attract followers, were later superseded by the more violent verses written later in Medina.

Seems like it might be worth exploring.

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Islam is not the problem. Christianity is the problem...right Delta?

Have you bothered to understand the history of Islam? Of course not...but you know the history of Christianity is terrible death and suffering the world over....right?
 
Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

The pictures of Muslims cutting off the heads of Christians and yelling Allah Akbar while shooting unarmed civilians convinced me that you are making excuses for them.
 
Given that Sunnis and Shias have been killing each other for centuries, they must have been able to justify their violence towards each other relying on Islamic teachings. Which Islamic teachings do both Sunnis and Shias use to justify killing the other?

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Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

The pictures of Muslims cutting off the heads of Christians and yelling Allah Akbar while shooting unarmed civilians convinced me that you are making excuses for them.

Terrorists using a religion as cover did those things. Be like saying an abortion clinic bomber saying he did it for Jesus means we should crack down on the whole of Christianity. Had nothing to do with Christianity. Nor this with Islam. If we let it become about Islam we lose. An insignificant number of violent crazy people we could handle is now a big chunk of over 1.6 billion. You can't fight a whole religion. And where Muslims who just practice their faith in peace woulda helped us before, now that we're openly assaulting their faith, they wont be the best intelligence assets going.
 
Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

The pictures of Muslims cutting off the heads of Christians and yelling Allah Akbar while shooting unarmed civilians convinced me that you are making excuses for them.

Terrorists using a religion as cover did those things. Be like saying an abortion clinic bomber saying he did it for Jesus means we should crack down on the whole of Christianity. Had nothing to do with Christianity. Nor this with Islam. If we let it become about Islam we lose. An insignificant number of violent crazy people we could handle is now a big chunk of over 1.6 billion. You can't fight a whole religion. And where Muslims who just practice their faith in peace woulda helped us before, now that we're openly assaulting their faith, they wont be the best intelligence assets going.
Radical Islam is the problem..and you fail to recognize it and even try to justify it.

CRAZY!!!
 

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