Islam is not the problem. You are.

[TooTall]

Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

The pictures of Muslims cutting off the heads of Christians and yelling Allah Akbar while shooting unarmed civilians convinced me that you are making excuses for them.

Terrorists using a religion as cover did those things. Be like saying an abortion clinic bomber saying he did it for Jesus means we should crack down on the whole of Christianity. Had nothing to do with Christianity. Nor this with Islam. If we let it become about Islam we lose. An insignificant number of violent crazy people we could handle is now a big chunk of over 1.6 billion. You can't fight a whole religion. And where Muslims who just practice their faith in peace woulda helped us before, now that we're openly assaulting their faith, they wont be the best intelligence assets going.

I have no argument with Muslims as long as they are not engaged in radicalizing other Muslims to commit jihad in the name of Allah.

 

[Mudda]

Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

The pictures of Muslims cutting off the heads of Christians and yelling Allah Akbar while shooting unarmed civilians convinced me that you are making excuses for them.

Terrorists using a religion as cover did those things. Be like saying an abortion clinic bomber saying he did it for Jesus means we should crack down on the whole of Christianity. Had nothing to do with Christianity. Nor this with Islam. If we let it become about Islam we lose. An insignificant number of violent crazy people we could handle is now a big chunk of over 1.6 billion. You can't fight a whole religion. And where Muslims who just practice their faith in peace woulda helped us before, now that we're openly assaulting their faith, they wont be the best intelligence assets going.

I have no argument with Muslims as long as they are not engaged in radicalizing other Muslims to commit jihad in the name of Allah.

In other words, you have a problem with all muslims. Check.

 

[Dajjal]

2.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth, and ye know not.

4.74 Let those fight in the cause of God Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of God,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).

4.76 Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.

9.29 Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that
forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

9.123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that God is with those who fear Him.


48.16 Say to the desert Arabs who lagged behind: "Ye shall be summoned (to fight) against a people given to vehement war: then shall ye fight, or they shall submit. Then if ye show obedience, God will grant you a goodly reward, but if ye turn back as ye did before, He will punish you with a grievous Penalty."

5.33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;



Yusuf Ali: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

 

[Dajjal]

The above verses contradict any talk of peace in the queeran and verse 2.256 may say there is no compulsion in religion, but verse 2.257 qualifies it by saying unbelievers will burn in eternal hellfire.
The following hadith shows what a murdering bastard Muhammad really was.
Hadith Bukhari

Volume 8, Book 82, Number 794:

Narrated Anas:

Some people from the tribe of 'Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Those who committed the attacks in Paris also sought to provoke the predictable and unwarranted anti-Muslim sentiments common to most conservatives, particularly rightwing extremists in the West.

The terrorists count on those conservatives to attack all Muslims and Islam, using those attacks to attract new recruits and to 'justify' further acts of terror.

Most on the right have no idea they're playing right into the hands of the terrorists with their errant, misguided attacks on Islam.

 

[gipper]

Those who committed the attacks in Paris also sought to provoke the predictable and unwarranted anti-Muslim sentiments common to most conservatives, particularly rightwing extremists in the West.

The terrorists count on those conservatives to attack all Muslims and Islam, using those attacks to attract new recruits and to 'justify' further acts of terror.

Most on the right have no idea they're playing right into the hands of the terrorists with their errant, misguided attacks on Islam.

Yeah..we should just ignore their murderous actions. Let them kill us...after all we deserve it.

CRAZY!!!

 

[Mudda]

Islam's not the problem, all of Delta's useless threads are!

 

[Sunni Man]

Great thread Delta.........

 

[Manonthestreet]

Your problem is you cant identify which is which......and until then no more should be let in

 

[Manonthestreet]

BTW 51% of muslims in America want shariah...25% support violence to attain that.........oooops

 

[September]

I find both the Bible and the Quran beautiful and fascinating. They offer us many insights and lessons about human nature, among other things.

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[theHawk]

Those who committed the attacks in Paris also sought to provoke the predictable and unwarranted anti-Muslim sentiments common to most conservatives, particularly rightwing extremists in the West.

The terrorists count on those conservatives to attack all Muslims and Islam, using those attacks to attract new recruits and to 'justify' further acts of terror.

Most on the right have no idea they're playing right into the hands of the terrorists with their errant, misguided attacks on Islam.

Those who committed the attacks in Paris also sought to provoke the predictable and unwarranted pro-Muslim sentiments common to most progressives, particularly left wing extremists in the West.

The terrorists count on those progressives to attack all Christians and Christianity, using those attacks to push their agenda that helps enable further acts of terror.

Most on the left have no idea they're playing right into the hands of the terrorists with their errant, misguided attacks on Christianity.

 

[RWNJ]

The Quran's Verses of Violence

Hate sites aren't usually considered reliable.

You know nothing of Islam. Here is the truth. Educate yourself.

The Story of Mohammed: 1 Early Life

 

[Sunni Man]

You know nothing of Islam. Here is the truth. Educate yourself.
The Story of Mohammed: 1 Early Life

Basically a comic book version of Islam's founder written by retards. ....... ..

 

[westwall]

Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

Correct....to a point. Islamic EXTREMISM is the problem. You clowns love to point to Christian extremists so let me give you a sense of the scale we are dealing with. Christian nutjobs number about a medium sized city. Figure 300,000 or so. Islamic extremists number about 300 MILLION. So, the population of the US vs the City of Omaha.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

Correct....to a point. Islamic EXTREMISM is the problem. You clowns love to point to Christian extremists so let me give you a sense of the scale we are dealing with. Christian nutjobs number about a medium sized city. Figure 300,000 or so. Islamic extremists number about 300 MILLION. So, the population of the US vs the City of Omaha.

If I ever try to hire you to do my taxes, remind me of this thread.

 

[Mudda]

You know nothing of Islam. Here is the truth. Educate yourself.
The Story of Mohammed: 1 Early Life

Basically a comic book version of Islam's founder written by retards. ....... ..

"written by retards". So close friends of Mohammed's?

 

[Vigilante]

Yes, let them kill a handful of us at a time...forever, BUT DON'T UPSET THE FUCKING MUSLIMS!

 

[Moonglow]

Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

 

[Moonglow]

Every time you blame Islam when something like this happens you make a terrorist orgasm. This is how terrorism works people. Attack some civilian target hurting innocent people, this scares everyone else being just ike those victims, then fear become anger and people lash out predictably like a struck animal.

Short of being ready-reserve forces who can do something about it, all we can do is NOT do what the terrorists are hoping for. They WANT you to blame Islam because there's 1.6 billion of them who have no interest in becomming terrorists UNTIL the non-Muslim world paints the entire faith as an enemy. NOW they're interested in fighting back. And that's EXACTLY what terrorists hope for.

So long as terrorists are on their own, villified by actual Islam they're power is finite and they're easily dealt with. But if they can draw upon numbers...Then kids, you aint seen nothing yet.

You have to create the host organism, so you can find wheys to kill it...