Is the Stock Market part of the deep state?

[Harpy Eagle]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

You have a faulty memory of the situation. The Market started heading down in Oct of 2007, some 10 months before Obama was even the official nominee. There had not been a single primary and Obama was not even the favorite to win the nomination.

I don't see how any of this changes anything.

IF it was all planned out it worked perfectly.

Congrats. you just won!

 

[Votto]

Here is Sean Hannity's take on the situation.


On his Fox News radio show on Monday, Hannity said the market drop ― which at its worst saw the Dow industrials plunge by nearly 1,600 points and closing down 1,175 points for the day ― wasn’t the fault of President Donald Trump.

It’s his predecessor that’s to blame.

“Because the Obama economy was so weak all of these years, we had just artificially cheap money,” Hannity said, referring to a Fox News analysis he had seen on the cable network.

He explained that “cheap money” is from borrowing at “ridiculously low rates,” which he added must now end.

“The government has artificially, the Fed has artificially, kept the price of money down and the price of borrowing down, and now that’s going to come to an end.”

Then, he declared that the plunge ― which saw stocks erase all their 2018 gains ― is actually good.

“In many ways, it’s a sign of the strength of the economy more than anything else,” he said in comments posted online by Media Matters.

Does he get a tin foil hat as well?

 

[edthecynic]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

Didn't you know, EVERYTHING is the Deep State Shadow Government Silent Coup.

 

[Votto]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

Didn't you know, EVERYTHING is the Deep State Shadow Government Silent Coup.

Speaking of politically correct conspiracy theories, how are those indictments coming along Spanky?

 

[Taz]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

Only when they make bad choices.

 

[edthecynic]

Here is Sean Hannity's take on the situation.

It’s his predecessor that’s to blame.

You gotta just love the Trumpists, the rising stock market was ALL Tramp, but the following fall is all Obama.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Here is Sean Hannity's take on the situation.


On his Fox News radio show on Monday, Hannity said the market drop ― which at its worst saw the Dow industrials plunge by nearly 1,600 points and closing down 1,175 points for the day ― wasn’t the fault of President Donald Trump.

It’s his predecessor that’s to blame.

“Because the Obama economy was so weak all of these years, we had just artificially cheap money,” Hannity said, referring to a Fox News analysis he had seen on the cable network.

He explained that “cheap money” is from borrowing at “ridiculously low rates,” which he added must now end.

“The government has artificially, the Fed has artificially, kept the price of money down and the price of borrowing down, and now that’s going to come to an end.”

Then, he declared that the plunge ― which saw stocks erase all their 2018 gains ― is actually good.

“In many ways, it’s a sign of the strength of the economy more than anything else,” he said in comments posted online by Media Matters.

Does he get a tin foil hat as well?

No, he gets this Trump Ass kisser of the day award. It is an awards he wins often.

 

[edthecynic]

Some say Obama created a more artificial economy with low rates

Except the FED started raising rates in 2015 and the Obama stock market didn't crash like the Tramp stock market just did!

 

[Skylar]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

According to Hannity, maybe. As he's blaming Obama for the recent downturns.

If the stock market goes up, Trump takes credit. If the stock market goes down, Trump's toadies blame someone else.

We've all had that boss who takes credit for the good and blames others for the bad. Now we have that president.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Dropped 500 now up 300. Absurd swings

 

[Care4all]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

The tax cut and having to borrow 1.5 trillion to pay for it with absolutely no signs of fiscal responsibility in paying our bills or a functioning, bipartisan congress getting work done, is just a part of it....

this means interest rates will go up, for the gvt to get more buyers of bonds, to fund our gvt.... if interest rates go up, then that means the 20 trillion in debt we already owe plus the 1 trillon debt that was added this past year, will becme much more expensive, which means there will be even less money left to pay the bills of our nation, which means we will need to borrow even more money to pay them....

is some of the problem....from what I have been reading??

And interest rates going up, is bad for wall street because they do best with cheap money....?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Here is Sean Hannity's take on the situation.


On his Fox News radio show on Monday, Hannity said the market drop ― which at its worst saw the Dow industrials plunge by nearly 1,600 points and closing down 1,175 points for the day ― wasn’t the fault of President Donald Trump.

It’s his predecessor that’s to blame.

“Because the Obama economy was so weak all of these years, we had just artificially cheap money,” Hannity said, referring to a Fox News analysis he had seen on the cable network.

He explained that “cheap money” is from borrowing at “ridiculously low rates,” which he added must now end.

“The government has artificially, the Fed has artificially, kept the price of money down and the price of borrowing down, and now that’s going to come to an end.”

Then, he declared that the plunge ― which saw stocks erase all their 2018 gains ― is actually good.

“In many ways, it’s a sign of the strength of the economy more than anything else,” he said in comments posted online by Media Matters.

Does he get a tin foil hat as well?

Again, as with most things economic, I think he is partially correct. The reason you had cheap money though is that the underlying fundamentals of the economy were weak, they still are really, but they are improving.

Until and once America (or any nation) has a healthy and vibrant middle class you will continue to struggle with economic success. If you cut out the middle class and go with a system of only upper and lower class, well, you will have socialism, communism or some dependence system of rulers and serfs. This is where America was headed.

 

[bendog]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

I think you're on something.

 

[Votto]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

The tax cut and having to borrow 1.5 trillion to pay for it with absolutely no signs of fiscal responsibility in paying our bills or a functioning, bipartisan congress getting work done, is just a part of it....

this means interest rates will go up, for the gvt to get more buyers of bonds, to fund our gvt.... if interest rates go up, then that means the 20 trillion in debt we already owe plus the 1 trillon debt that was added this past year, will becme much more expensive, which means there will be even less money left to pay the bills of our nation, which means we will need to borrow even more money to pay them....

is some of the problem....from what I have been reading??

And interest rates going up, is bad for wall street because they do best with cheap money....?

There is no question in my mind that both parties seem to be rushing to fiscal suicide.

Question is, is this intentional?

People don't like change, so the best way to initiate it is to force people to change. If they collapse the system, then bye, bye, Constitution and hello Big Brother to come save the day, probably by some world government entity.

 

[Votto]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

According to Hannity, maybe. As he's blaming Obama for the recent downturns.

If the stock market goes up, Trump takes credit. If the stock market goes down, Trump's toadies blame someone else.

We've all had that boss who takes credit for the good and blames others for the bad. Now we have that president.

I don't blame the President regarding such crashes. For example, "W" had nothing to do with the crash at the end of his term, yet he was blamed as well as his party by voters. All voters know is that you are the guy that runs things so it's your fault.

Having said that, as Rahm Emmanuel once said, "Don't let a good crisis go to waste", as he was crafting Obamacare. Crisis is the tool of the collectivist, and know as far back as Herbert Hoover.

As Herbert Hoover once said, "Every collectivist revolution rides in on a Trojan horse of 'emergency'. It was the tactic of Lenin, Hitler, and Mussolini. In the collectivist sweep over a dozen minor countries in Europe, it was the cry of men striving to get on horseback. And 'emergency' became the justification of the subsequent steps. This technique of creating emergency is the greatest achievement that demagoguery attains."

As a result, I'm always looking for the next crisis to unmask their next move. The only question becomes, was the crisis manufactured?

By in large people just want to live their lives in peace and be left alone, so the collectivist must create a demand for a savior from a crisis to overcome this.

IF the economy collapsed at the end of Trumps term as it did "W", then I'll know for sure.

 

[Care4all]

I hearken back to when Obama was elected. He was behind in the polls until the Stock Market began to melt down, then he regained his lead in the polls and won the election.

With the Stock Market in free fall with Trump in office, are we witnessing the same thing? Are we to expect a Stock Market crash every time a Republican is put into the Oval Office?

The tax cut and having to borrow 1.5 trillion to pay for it with absolutely no signs of fiscal responsibility in paying our bills or a functioning, bipartisan congress getting work done, is just a part of it....

this means interest rates will go up, for the gvt to get more buyers of bonds, to fund our gvt.... if interest rates go up, then that means the 20 trillion in debt we already owe plus the 1 trillon debt that was added this past year, will becme much more expensive, which means there will be even less money left to pay the bills of our nation, which means we will need to borrow even more money to pay them....

is some of the problem....from what I have been reading??

And interest rates going up, is bad for wall street because they do best with cheap money....?

There is no question in my mind that both parties seem to be rushing to fiscal suicide.

Question is, is this intentional?

People don't like change, so the best way to initiate it is to force people to change. If they collapse the system, then bye, bye, Constitution and hello Big Brother to come save the day, probably by some world government entity.

I think interest rates are also going to rise with Trump's new Fed Chairman, to slow down Wall street's rapid and relentless climb....they see this.... and know this means higher interest rates to come, to keep them at a steady pace....and so when the market stalls for a lengthy time, which inevitably will happen....the Fed will have a tool to spur the economy, by dropping rates.... rates are high in good times and lower in bad times is my understanding???

I think some of what we saw in the market are ''automatic'' sell offs.....when stocks reach a certain high, they trigger a sell.....is what I also heard on the news?

Basically, don't worry yet....no one is going to ''bring us down'' for a couple of years....''they'' have money to make off of us first, before they wipe us out again....