Is the peace process inherently flawed by a lack of understanding of Israel?

[Marc39]

Even Allah says Palestine is the Jewish Holy Land...

Quran 17:104---

And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.

This passage is talking about the return of the Jews to Jerusalem after the first warning to behave themselves.

You are avoiding the rest - what happened after the last (second) warning in your own quote came to pass?

Qu'ran tells us:

17:7 If ye did well, ye did well for yourselves; if ye did evil, (ye did it) against yourselves. So when the second of the warnings came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Temple as they had entered it before, and to visit with destruction all that fell into their power.

and furthermore

17:8 It may be that your Lord may (yet) show Mercy unto you; but if ye revert (to your sins), We shall revert (to Our punishments): And we have made Hell a prison for those who reject (all Faith).

Your cherry-picked passage completely ignores the context.

Jews lived in Jerusalem for thousands of years before your pedophile fake prophet was even hatched, Habib.

Your psychotic leader was laughed out of Mecca by his own people when he concocted his bullshit fairy tale about his night journey to Jerusalem aboard his winged mule with the woman's head and peacock's tail.

What a bogus religion.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Even Allah says Palestine is the Jewish Holy Land...

Quran 17:104---

This passage is talking about the return of the Jews to Jerusalem after the first warning to behave themselves.

You are avoiding the rest - what happened after the last (second) warning in your own quote came to pass?

Qu'ran tells us:



and furthermore

17:8 It may be that your Lord may (yet) show Mercy unto you; but if ye revert (to your sins), We shall revert (to Our punishments): And we have made Hell a prison for those who reject (all Faith).

Your cherry-picked passage completely ignores the context.

Jews lived in Jerusalem for thousands of years before your pedophile fake prophet was even hatched, Habib.

Your psychotic leader was laughed out of Mecca by his own people when he concocted his bullshit fairy tale about his night journey to Jerusalem aboard his winged mule with the woman's head and peacock's tail.

What a bogus religion.

Ah, this is not a religious conflict.

 

[Marc39]

This passage is talking about the return of the Jews to Jerusalem after the first warning to behave themselves.

You are avoiding the rest - what happened after the last (second) warning in your own quote came to pass?

Qu'ran tells us:



and furthermore



Your cherry-picked passage completely ignores the context.

Jews lived in Jerusalem for thousands of years before your pedophile fake prophet was even hatched, Habib.

Your psychotic leader was laughed out of Mecca by his own people when he concocted his bullshit fairy tale about his night journey to Jerusalem aboard his winged mule with the woman's head and peacock's tail.

What a bogus religion.

Ah, this is not a religious conflict.

Dummy, you know less than zero about the subject matter.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jews lived in Jerusalem for thousands of years before your pedophile fake prophet was even hatched, Habib.

Your psychotic leader was laughed out of Mecca by his own people when he concocted his bullshit fairy tale about his night journey to Jerusalem aboard his winged mule with the woman's head and peacock's tail.

What a bogus religion.

Ah, this is not a religious conflict.

Dummy, you know less than zero about the subject matter.

Off topic.

 

[Shogun]

Every nation has its historical narrative.

What much of europe sees as foolish intransigence is seen by Israel as an imperative for preservation of the nation. European attitudes are much of the source of Israeli intransigence.

HA! it must take a real vapid bitch to make such an effort to whitewash all things jewish.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Less than 5 percent of Pallies are Christian, dummy.

Their numbers are small but they enjoy broad support from the Muslim community.

Except, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, dummy.

"Palestine's Christians Suffer Persecution"
Palestine’s Christians Continue to Suffer Persecution | Christian News on Christian Today

A Palestinian Christian addresses 70,000 supporters in Gaza. Not bad since there are only about 3,000 Christians in Gaza.
Palestinian Revolutionaries on International Women's Day

A woman from Gaza: Shireen Said of the PFLP.

 

[Marc39]

Wall Street Journal: Christian Palestinians Persecuted By Muslims

 

[P F Tinmore]

Wall Street Journal: Christian Palestinians Persecuted By Muslims

By DANIEL SCHWAMMENTHAL

A good Christian name if I ever heard one.

 

[Marc39]

Wall Street Journal: Christian Palestinians Persecuted By Muslims

By DANIEL SCHWAMMENTHAL

A good Christian name if I ever heard one.

A good newspaper of unimpeachable integrity, the Wall Street Journal.

Take your schizophrenia medication, dummy.

 

[Shogun]

Wall Street Journal: Christian Palestinians Persecuted By Muslims

By DANIEL SCHWAMMENTHAL

A good Christian name if I ever heard one.

PWNT

 

[Marc39]

Wall Street Journal: Christian Palestinians Persecuted By Muslims

By DANIEL SCHWAMMENTHAL

A good Christian name if I ever heard one.

PWNT

Stoner, you're PWNED for following a bogus cult invented by a pedophile named Muhammad.

 

[Shogun]

By DANIEL SCHWAMMENTHAL

A good Christian name if I ever heard one.

PWNT

Stoner, you're PWNED for following a bogus cult invented by a pedophile named Muhammad.

*yawn*


got anything else in that jewbag of yours today, lampshade?

 

[Marc39]

PWNT

Stoner, you're PWNED for following a bogus cult invented by a pedophile named Muhammad.

*yawn*


got anything else in that jewbag of yours today, lampshade?

Sucks Muhammad was a pedophile married to a 6 year old little girl, eh, dildo?

 

[Shogun]

Stoner, you're PWNED for following a bogus cult invented by a pedophile named Muhammad.

*yawn*


got anything else in that jewbag of yours today, lampshade?

Sucks Muhammad was a pedophile married to a 6 year old little girl, eh, dildo?

You'll have to ask someone who gives a shit about Mohammed, Jew. But, at least we know not to leave any wine and nubile daughters around your jewish ass, eh Lot?

 

[Marc39]

*yawn*


got anything else in that jewbag of yours today, lampshade?

Sucks Muhammad was a pedophile married to a 6 year old little girl, eh, dildo?

You'll have to ask someone who gives a shit about Mohammed, Jew. But, at least we know not to leave any wine and nubile daughters around your jewish ass, eh Lot?

You give a shit about your pedophile prophet Muhammad, dildo.

 

[Shogun]

Sucks Muhammad was a pedophile married to a 6 year old little girl, eh, dildo?

You'll have to ask someone who gives a shit about Mohammed, Jew. But, at least we know not to leave any wine and nubile daughters around your jewish ass, eh Lot?

You give a shit about your pedophile prophet Muhammad, dildo.

Looks like are are about as talented in reading minds as you are sexing up some kosher incest!

 

[jillian]

Every nation has its historical narrative.

What much of europe sees as foolish intransigence is seen by Israel as an imperative for preservation of the nation. European attitudes are much of the source of Israeli intransigence.

yeah, but for some inexplicable reason, israel is the only country whose people are supposed to die to accommodate terrorists.

how intransigent of israelis not to lie down and die.

 

[Marc39]

You'll have to ask someone who gives a shit about Mohammed, Jew. But, at least we know not to leave any wine and nubile daughters around your jewish ass, eh Lot?

You give a shit about your pedophile prophet Muhammad, dildo.

Looks like are are about as talented in reading minds as you are sexing up some kosher incest!

Muhammad committing incest in marrying his former daughter-in-law, Zaynab.

You proud of your degenerate prophet, dildo?

 

[Coyote]

Every nation has its historical narrative.

What much of europe sees as foolish intransigence is seen by Israel as an imperative for preservation of the nation. European attitudes are much of the source of Israeli intransigence.

yeah, but for some inexplicable reason, israel is the only country whose people are supposed to die to accommodate terrorists.

how intransigent of israelis not to lie down and die.

hmmm....should the Palestinians be expected to lie down and die?

I thought that some of the premises laid out by the author were interesting becuase they explain Israel's obession with controlling the narrative - whether it's internationally (via AIPAC or CAMERA) or internally - by limiting coverage and access to Gaza. He may not be totally right (or wrong) but he provokes thought beyond the usual cliches.

Unfortunately, the thread has deginerated into the usual lobbing of insults from the usual parties....

 

[Shogun]

Every nation has its historical narrative.

What much of europe sees as foolish intransigence is seen by Israel as an imperative for preservation of the nation. European attitudes are much of the source of Israeli intransigence.

yeah, but for some inexplicable reason, israel is the only country whose people are supposed to die to accommodate terrorists.

how intransigent of israelis not to lie down and die.

by your standard the US would have never given up slavery since doing so would have been "expecting the south to accommodate negros and lay down and die".

Your laughable misnomer is old.