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As far as i know, until the ACA, there were no extra taxes on the rich. It was a flat rate for everyone that WORKED.You mean he hasnt stated he is going to raise taxes on other people to pay for it?LOL bernies plan for UH seems a bit different than Medicare.Is that how you define Medicare? People seem to really like that program.
LOL, you obviously have no idea what his plan states. Besides, that was only a portion of my point.
Are you calling him a liar?
Is that not what Medicaid did?
It required certain earners to pay an additional 1 percent in medicare taxes. Tis true.As far as i know, until the ACA, there were no extra taxes on the rich. It was a flat rate for everyone that WORKED.You mean he hasnt stated he is going to raise taxes on other people to pay for it?LOL bernies plan for UH seems a bit different than Medicare.
LOL, you obviously have no idea what his plan states. Besides, that was only a portion of my point.
Are you calling him a liar?
Is that not what Medicaid did?
The ACA didn't enact extra taxes on the rich. It enacted extra taxes on the poor. But you go ahead, keep on defending trillions and trillions in never ending debt.
It required certain earners to pay an additional 1 percent in medicare taxes. Tis true.As far as i know, until the ACA, there were no extra taxes on the rich. It was a flat rate for everyone that WORKED.You mean he hasnt stated he is going to raise taxes on other people to pay for it?LOL, you obviously have no idea what his plan states. Besides, that was only a portion of my point.
Are you calling him a liar?
Is that not what Medicaid did?
The ACA didn't enact extra taxes on the rich. It enacted extra taxes on the poor. But you go ahead, keep on defending trillions and trillions in never ending debt.
Lol I do not defend it all. I would prefer govt to get out of it completely. Like it SHOULD be.
But you go ahead and defend the govt abusing its powers and taking over entire sectors of the economy and deleting millions of jobs.
If the govt never got involved, healthcare would be affordable. As soon as theybgot involved, prices started going up.It required certain earners to pay an additional 1 percent in medicare taxes. Tis true.As far as i know, until the ACA, there were no extra taxes on the rich. It was a flat rate for everyone that WORKED.You mean he hasnt stated he is going to raise taxes on other people to pay for it?
Are you calling him a liar?
Is that not what Medicaid did?
The ACA didn't enact extra taxes on the rich. It enacted extra taxes on the poor. But you go ahead, keep on defending trillions and trillions in never ending debt.
Lol I do not defend it all. I would prefer govt to get out of it completely. Like it SHOULD be.
But you go ahead and defend the govt abusing its powers and taking over entire sectors of the economy and deleting millions of jobs.
Come up with a program where everyone can get affordable health care with the government not involved and I'll listen.
I think the congressional Black Congress members are rich. They don't give a shit about Blacks any more than Sharpton or Jackson. They like little Mikey because they think they'll be able to panhandle him somewhere down the line. It's funny how Dems. are letting a billionaire buy their nomination.Wait, has the Congressional Black Caucus heard Bloomberg on tape discussing minorities?Since the day Trump was elected, I've been concerned he'd be so over-the-top that the Democratic Party's response would be over-the-top, too. Sure enough, that's what we've seen. And, predictably, ugly politics now pollute damn near every part of our society.
But I've also been hoping that just enough sanity would remain in the party that it would be able to see some boundaries. Maybe that's happening now, too: Centrist Democrats rethink alliances as Biden crumbles
This madness has spawned the rise of nutters like AOC, Talib & Omar, not to mention this largely whacko crop of "presidential candidates", especially Bernie and Warren. Maybe the more pragmatic elements of the party still have enough influence to stop the freakin' madness.
Here's hoping.
From the linked piece:
“If Bernie ends up being one of these frontrunners, he’ll have to moderate. I’m not going socialist. Never been a socialist,” Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said. “If he doesn’t change, I’ve got a dilemma there. We’ll see. But we’re talking about hypotheticals. I think there’s going to be a lot happening between now and then.”
The soul-searching within the establishment wing of the Democratic Party comes after Sanders solidified his frontrunner status in Iowa and New Hampshire, which produced a pair of cringeworthy finishes for Biden. The former vice president did so poorly in New Hampshire that he ditched his own election night watch party to head to South Carolina, possibly giving an opening to Bloomberg, who skipped the first four contests.
“I’m feeling a momentum shift to Bloomberg right now,” said Rep. Lou Correa (D-Calif.), who endorsed Biden in the summer and plans to stick with him.
One of the most glaring examples of the change in tide on Capitol Hill is a trio of Bloomberg endorsements from the Congressional Black Caucus on Wednesday — a not-so-subtle show of force against Biden, who remains the favored candidate among black voters nationally.
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If the govt never got involved, healthcare would be affordable. As soon as theybgot involved, prices started going up.It required certain earners to pay an additional 1 percent in medicare taxes. Tis true.As far as i know, until the ACA, there were no extra taxes on the rich. It was a flat rate for everyone that WORKED.Is that not what Medicaid did?
The ACA didn't enact extra taxes on the rich. It enacted extra taxes on the poor. But you go ahead, keep on defending trillions and trillions in never ending debt.
Lol I do not defend it all. I would prefer govt to get out of it completely. Like it SHOULD be.
But you go ahead and defend the govt abusing its powers and taking over entire sectors of the economy and deleting millions of jobs.
Come up with a program where everyone can get affordable health care with the government not involved and I'll listen.
Govt fucks up everything.
But back to the original point, this is having other people pay for someone elses healthcare. And it isnt like Medicare. Bernie is talking about over 50 percent rates for some and thatbdoesnt even include everything else the authoritarian wants to take over. Estate taxes on and on.
It required certain earners to pay an additional 1 percent in medicare taxes. Tis true.As far as i know, until the ACA, there were no extra taxes on the rich. It was a flat rate for everyone that WORKED.You mean he hasnt stated he is going to raise taxes on other people to pay for it?
Are you calling him a liar?
Is that not what Medicaid did?
The ACA didn't enact extra taxes on the rich. It enacted extra taxes on the poor. But you go ahead, keep on defending trillions and trillions in never ending debt.
Lol I do not defend it all. I would prefer govt to get out of it completely. Like it SHOULD be.
But you go ahead and defend the govt abusing its powers and taking over entire sectors of the economy and deleting millions of jobs.
Come up with a program where everyone can get affordable health care with the government not involved and I'll listen.
It was government funding and involvement that created much of the medical advances of the last 100 years.
It required certain earners to pay an additional 1 percent in medicare taxes. Tis true.As far as i know, until the ACA, there were no extra taxes on the rich. It was a flat rate for everyone that WORKED.Is that not what Medicaid did?
The ACA didn't enact extra taxes on the rich. It enacted extra taxes on the poor. But you go ahead, keep on defending trillions and trillions in never ending debt.
Lol I do not defend it all. I would prefer govt to get out of it completely. Like it SHOULD be.
But you go ahead and defend the govt abusing its powers and taking over entire sectors of the economy and deleting millions of jobs.
Come up with a program where everyone can get affordable health care with the government not involved and I'll listen.
Encouraging competition and less regulation would be a step in the right direction. More regulation and getting the government more involved is the polar opposite of what needs to be done.
It was government funding and involvement that created much of the medical advances of the last 100 years.
Wrong. The most significant advances in health care have been from the private sector.
Name a specific racist policy.Slight difference is that while Trump's antics can be unusual, his policies aren't. The antics of the left's candidates may not be as unusual, but their policies will "fundamentally change the US", according to Sanders. Sorry, but people need to wake up and be adults. Get over the hatred for Trump, the person, along with some of his childish antics, and focus on his policies, which are, in a very large part, working. If one of the left gets elected, he/she may be a smooth talker and say all the things that gives you that warm, gushy feeling, but the country will collapse both economically and socially.
His policies are the same Republican Rat Poison they've been feeding us since Nixon that have destroyed the Middle Class.
He's just more open about the racism to get those last few stupid white people to vote against their own economic interests.
Top linkIf the govt never got involved, healthcare would be affordable. As soon as theybgot involved, prices started going up.It required certain earners to pay an additional 1 percent in medicare taxes. Tis true.As far as i know, until the ACA, there were no extra taxes on the rich. It was a flat rate for everyone that WORKED.
The ACA didn't enact extra taxes on the rich. It enacted extra taxes on the poor. But you go ahead, keep on defending trillions and trillions in never ending debt.
Lol I do not defend it all. I would prefer govt to get out of it completely. Like it SHOULD be.
But you go ahead and defend the govt abusing its powers and taking over entire sectors of the economy and deleting millions of jobs.
Come up with a program where everyone can get affordable health care with the government not involved and I'll listen.
Govt fucks up everything.
It was government funding and involvement that created much of the medical advances of the last 100 years.
But back to the original point, this is having other people pay for someone elses healthcare. And it isnt like Medicare. Bernie is talking about over 50 percent rates for some and thatbdoesnt even include everything else the authoritarian wants to take over. Estate taxes on and on.
You just made all of that up. Could you point where in his plans (they are online) where this is?
Name a specific racist policy.Slight difference is that while Trump's antics can be unusual, his policies aren't. The antics of the left's candidates may not be as unusual, but their policies will "fundamentally change the US", according to Sanders. Sorry, but people need to wake up and be adults. Get over the hatred for Trump, the person, along with some of his childish antics, and focus on his policies, which are, in a very large part, working. If one of the left gets elected, he/she may be a smooth talker and say all the things that gives you that warm, gushy feeling, but the country will collapse both economically and socially.
His policies are the same Republican Rat Poison they've been feeding us since Nixon that have destroyed the Middle Class.
He's just more open about the racism to get those last few stupid white people to vote against their own economic interests.
You have posted many times that Brown people can’t manage without White people.
Top linkIf the govt never got involved, healthcare would be affordable. As soon as theybgot involved, prices started going up.It required certain earners to pay an additional 1 percent in medicare taxes. Tis true.The ACA didn't enact extra taxes on the rich. It enacted extra taxes on the poor. But you go ahead, keep on defending trillions and trillions in never ending debt.
Lol I do not defend it all. I would prefer govt to get out of it completely. Like it SHOULD be.
But you go ahead and defend the govt abusing its powers and taking over entire sectors of the economy and deleting millions of jobs.
Come up with a program where everyone can get affordable health care with the government not involved and I'll listen.
Govt fucks up everything.
It was government funding and involvement that created much of the medical advances of the last 100 years.
But back to the original point, this is having other people pay for someone elses healthcare. And it isnt like Medicare. Bernie is talking about over 50 percent rates for some and thatbdoesnt even include everything else the authoritarian wants to take over. Estate taxes on and on.
You just made all of that up. Could you point where in his plans (they are online) where this is?
how bernie pays for medicare for all - Google Search
What? It says it right there on the govts website.Top linkIf the govt never got involved, healthcare would be affordable. As soon as theybgot involved, prices started going up.It required certain earners to pay an additional 1 percent in medicare taxes. Tis true.
Lol I do not defend it all. I would prefer govt to get out of it completely. Like it SHOULD be.
But you go ahead and defend the govt abusing its powers and taking over entire sectors of the economy and deleting millions of jobs.
Come up with a program where everyone can get affordable health care with the government not involved and I'll listen.
Govt fucks up everything.
It was government funding and involvement that created much of the medical advances of the last 100 years.
But back to the original point, this is having other people pay for someone elses healthcare. And it isnt like Medicare. Bernie is talking about over 50 percent rates for some and thatbdoesnt even include everything else the authoritarian wants to take over. Estate taxes on and on.
You just made all of that up. Could you point where in his plans (they are online) where this is?
how bernie pays for medicare for all - Google Search
Fail.
Bernie could get the nominationBernie's Brown Shirts will riotI do not blame trump for democrat party insanitySince the day Trump was elected, I've been concerned he'd be so over-the-top that the Democratic Party's response would be over-the-top, too. Sure enough, that's what we've seen. And, predictably, ugly politics now pollute damn near every part of our society.
But I've also been hoping that just enough sanity would remain in the party that it would be able to see some boundaries. Maybe that's happening now, too: Centrist Democrats rethink alliances as Biden crumbles
This madness has spawned the rise of nutters like AOC, Talib & Omar, not to mention this largely whacko crop of "presidential candidates", especially Bernie and Warren. Maybe the more pragmatic elements of the party still have enough influence to stop the freakin' madness.
Here's hoping.
From the linked piece:
“If Bernie ends up being one of these frontrunners, he’ll have to moderate. I’m not going socialist. Never been a socialist,” Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said. “If he doesn’t change, I’ve got a dilemma there. We’ll see. But we’re talking about hypotheticals. I think there’s going to be a lot happening between now and then.”
The soul-searching within the establishment wing of the Democratic Party comes after Sanders solidified his frontrunner status in Iowa and New Hampshire, which produced a pair of cringeworthy finishes for Biden. The former vice president did so poorly in New Hampshire that he ditched his own election night watch party to head to South Carolina, possibly giving an opening to Bloomberg, who skipped the first four contests.
“I’m feeling a momentum shift to Bloomberg right now,” said Rep. Lou Correa (D-Calif.), who endorsed Biden in the summer and plans to stick with him.
One of the most glaring examples of the change in tide on Capitol Hill is a trio of Bloomberg endorsements from the Congressional Black Caucus on Wednesday — a not-so-subtle show of force against Biden, who remains the favored candidate among black voters nationally.
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blame it on entrenched marxists in the public schools molding young minds into good little socialists
but the transformation is not complete
the dems appear to be split down the middle between radicals and more centrist liberals
if bernie wins many dem voters will be turned off
but if bernie does not win the nomination the bernie bots will riot in the streets
Yes, anything is possibleif bernie wins many dem voters will be turned off
but if bernie does not win the nomination the bernie bots will riot in the streets
I heard the same thing said when Trump won about "Centrist" republicans.
They all fell into line.