Mudda
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I never said that I've rejected Him, but I've yet to "see" Him.So god rejects those who don't see him? That's douche.The son came back home and enjoyed relationship with his father again. Had he, however, refused to return, he would have been forever separated from his father. It's not any more complicated than that.No, you contradicted yourself. because if there's nothing I can do to LOSE his love then I already have it. So even if I don't accept it, you said that I can't lose His love in ANY case.By accepting His love, you thereby enter into a personal relationship with Him vs not accepting and not having a relationship.
On a more personal level for comparison.......have you ever loved someone that did not love you back? That didn't want to be in a relationship with you??? You still love(d) them anyway didn't you? It's kind of the same thing.
From what I can see, you are asking to justify your doubts because you've already decided Christians are suckers and God is non-existent. So there is nothing to be said to change you mind. Fine, you go on and live with your unbelief and I will live in my belief.
I never said He didn't love you with or without you accepting it. His love is always there no matter. But without you accepting it, you can't be in a relationship with Him to enjoy full benefits of it........similar with the comparison I gave you or with hadit 's comparison with your kids.
A Biblical comparison from Luke 15:11
Jesus continued: “There was a man who had two sons.12 The younger one said to his father, ‘Father, give me my share of the estate So he divided his property between them.
13 “Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14 After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15 So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs.16 He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.
17 “When he came to his senses, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18 I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19 I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ 20 So he got up and went to his father.
“But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.
21 “The son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’
22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate. 24 For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ So they began to celebrate.
The son had refused the relationship with his father & left to 'sow his wild oats' so to speak & do things his own way against the fathers ways & teachings...but the father never stopped loving his son........similar to Gods love is always there, no matter what, but the relationship is based on accepting it.
Yes, God loves us. Yes, He's willing to accept us. Yes, He longs for us to come to Him. But we cannot expect Him to accept us while we reject Him.
It is not His rejection, but your own of Him