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Originally posted by jimnyc
I'll repeat myself, saying the entire party is based on racist policies is absurd. That's no different than Big D or William Joyce claiming that all blacks or jews are no good.
Originally posted by LoneVoice
Issue: Equality - Oppressive Majority is white men. Oppressed Minority is minorities.
Issue: Religious Tolerance - Oppressive Majority is the religious right. Oppressed Minority is any non-christian based religion.
The white men and the religious right comprise the primary constituency of the Republican party.
Said in reverse, if you removed those aspects from the Republican party, there wouldn't be much left.
Originally posted by jimnyc
What's the difference in white men between republicans and democrats? You're saying that only the white men that are republicans are the oppressive ones?
I don't see any oppression, but I'll play this silly game.
Originally posted by LoneVoice
So, if you're saying that there are white men in the Democrat party as well that are against minority advancement, then I'd agree with you.
Originally posted by LoneVoice
So, if you're saying that there are white men in the Democrat party as well that are against minority advancement, then I'd agree with you.
Originally posted by LoneVoice
Issue: Equality - Oppressive Majority is white men. Oppressed Minority is minorities.
Issue: Religious Tolerance - Oppressive Majority is the religious right. Oppressed Minority is any non-christian based religion.
The white men and the religious right comprise the primary constituency of the Republican party.
Said in reverse, if you removed those aspects from the Republican party, there wouldn't be much left.
Originally posted by LoneVoice
On the issues mentioned:
equality, religious tolerance, and gay rights the Republican party clearly takes the position of the oppressive majority.
Or do you suggest otherwise?
Point is, Republicans gather up a few cardboard cutout blacks to protect themselves from the accusation of racism. Bush loves to do this. But it's all a game. Republicans should have the guts to say that the party is today for whites and their group interests, period.
Originally posted by jimnyc
That's not what I asked, you said:
"The white men and the religious right comprise the primary constituency of the Republican party."
I'm wondering what the difference is between the white men in the republican party and the white men in the democratic party. You say the white men that are republicans are the oppressive majority. Can you back this up? Can you cite voting records over the past 25 years that clearly show that republicans have been oppressive, and that at the same time the democrats opposed those very same records?
Originally posted by shergald
Fool, I vote Democrat because I don't want to get poorer.
Vote Democrat unless you are rich, or at least only think you are rich.
Originally posted by LoneVoice
These are a sample of articles that refer to Republican stances against Affirmative action, and the negative effects that would have toward forwarding equality in the work force.
http://www-tech.mit.edu/Issue/V115/N9/danspew.09o.html
http://www.johngaltpress.org/2001-08/defofaa.html
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\\Nation\\archive\\200306\\NAT20030623f.html
http://racerelations.about.com/library/weekly/aa080100a.htm
Originally posted by jimnyc
None of this covers voting records as I've asked. If what you are saying is true it will be reflected in the voting records. It will show republicans voting on measures to oppress minorities, and the democrats voting against.
Originally posted by shergald
Unlike Blackman, I do think that Bush is a racist. However, I do not believe that racism is the main agenda of the Republican party even though it projects it everywhere it can. It is rather a major front issue of the party, one which has propelled it to political power, as has the many of the other forms of bigotry it espouses. The main agenda of the Republican party is the same as it has always been: to enhance the wealth of the rich men who control it. Reaganomics, the Bush taxcut, corporation handouts, IRS loopholes, are just some examples of what the party is primarily about. Racism is only the means of getting and holding onto power.
I don't think Blackman believes he will change anyone's mind on this board, Lone man. Most of the persons whose postings I have read are opinionated and only here to reinforce their own views. Reason has no place here. If you have an agenda you want to convince someone about, this is not the place. What gives me a chuckle is that underneath all of the trivial chitchat, these very Republican rah-rah boys and girls, ironically, will end up like the rest of us paying for the huge amounts of money the rich men withdraw from the government every time the Republicans get into office. It happened during Reagan's administration, which we are still paying for, and it is happening under Bush's. The longer we keep him in there, the more they will end up paying. Well, let them pay. I must tell you, Lone man, this kind of irony can only be found on boards like this one. You are wasting your time with reasoned arguments. The Republican party has them so snowed they are beyond reason.
PS: I don't want to change these posters, only to let them know what their party is all about. It is really surprising that so many don't know how much the wealthy in this country appreciate their efforts.
Originally posted by shergald
So why stay in the Democratic party unless you want to be poor, you ask? This is another delusion of Republican enthusiasts: that if they vote Republican, they will get richer. Fool, I vote Democrat because I don't want to get poorer. Forgot Reaganomics: if we make the rich richer, every one will get rich by virtue of trickle- down. So what did the stats show after 8 years of Reagan: the rich did get richer, but everyone else got a little poorer. There was a big shift in wealth, and it was at the expense of the middle-class and poor. It was their money that got shift up to the wealthy. Forgot the mantra of the 80s: Greed is no vice.
Vote Democrat unless you are rich, or at least only think you are rich.
Originally posted by LoneVoice
I was just starting off with the Republican continued stance against Affirmative Action, despite it's usefulness in balancing the overwhelming white advantage work force....
i.e. http://www.lib.niu.edu/ipo/ii951110.html
I will look for more specifics links on voting records, if it can be found.