Indiana is for Bigots - video and Pence running for cover

[TemplarKormac]

just following orders ...classic

Coming from someone who swallows anything his party establishment feeds him.

My party?..what party is that ? I'm just waiting for the whole shithouse to go up in flames and the dawning the Barbarian rebellion

Oh, okay, so a closet liberal. Well, I'm pretty sure the closet is missing you right about now.

 

[ChrisL]

Yes, about the thread topic, I would say that the government should not be able to FORCE a business to do business with people they do not wish to do business with. While I support equal rights for gay people, I don't want the government being able to involve itself in personal or business matters of the people.

Those people will just lose business and money. That is how capitalism works. Why would you want to do business with a person like that anyways?

 

[ChrisL]

just following orders ...classic

Coming from someone who swallows anything his party establishment feeds him.

My party?..what party is that ? I'm just waiting for the whole shithouse to go up in flames and the dawning the Barbarian rebellion

It's the conspirator party, I think.

 

[TemplarKormac]

 

[eots]

Waiting to cut out the deadwood.
Waiting to clean up the city.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to put on a black shirt.
Waiting to weed out the weaklings.
Waiting to smash in their windows
And kick in their doors.
Waiting for the final solution
To strengthen the strain.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to turn on the showers
And fire the ovens.
Waiting for the queens and the coons
and the reds and the jews.
Waiting to follow the worms.

Waiting for Worms lyrics - The Wall Lyrics - Pink Floyd Lyrics

 

[ChrisL]

Waiting to cut out the deadwood.
Waiting to clean up the city.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to put on a black shirt.
Waiting to weed out the weaklings.
Waiting to smash in their windows
And kick in their doors.
Waiting for the final solution
To strengthen the strain.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to turn on the showers
And fire the ovens.
Waiting for the queens and the coons
and the reds and the jews.
Waiting to follow the worms.

Waiting for Worms lyrics - The Wall Lyrics - Pink Floyd Lyrics

Oh, how poignant. A little hyperbolic?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Faggots should stop suing people who refuse to cater to their "lifestyle" and laws like this wouldn't be needed but of course the people in the right are blamed as usual. Indiana will survive and faggots will get over it.

As long as you and others on the right continue to discriminate against gay Americans, they'll have no other recourse than to seek relief in court; it's up to you.

 

[Dana7360]

Faggots should stop suing people who refuse to cater to their "lifestyle" and laws like this wouldn't be needed but of course the people in the right are blamed as usual. Indiana will survive and faggots will get over it.

I'm not quite sure how baking a cake "caters" to anyone's lifestyle. Its just a cake.

Its agreeing to make a cake for something you don't believe in which is a homosexual "marriage".

What someone who bakes cakes for a living believes in is getting paid, on time, for said cake.

Exactly.

As a professional photographer I have two rules.

1. It must be legal.

2. I must be paid.

That's it.

I have never been asked to work a gay wedding but I would very happily do so if I was asked.

 

[TemplarKormac]

1. It must be legal.

2. I must be paid.

If I were in your shoes

1 and 2 are fine

add to it

3. It must not violate my religious beliefs.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Did the Jews not do that? The Christians? Have you no historical perspective at all?

Oh, again you bring up ANCIENT history and try to compare that to today's day and age. Lol. Silly boy.

Maybe you should learn Islam, where an insult of a thousand years ago was fucking yesterday. Oh that's right, you have no clue about Islam because you never studied it, like the rest of the dumbshits here.

And somehow, by magic I guess, a religion of warriors is supposed to be better than a religion of peacemakers, who spent five hundred years chopping off the heads of Muslims, Jews, and other unbelievers, when that is they weren't slaughtering each other. History matters, learn to apply it.

No, THAT is not relevant to today. That is absurd.

You are utterly wrong. You cannot begin to understand Islam until you understand the world as they see it, an eternal struggle (Jihad), to convert man to the Will (Submission), of God (Allah). Those fighting for ISIS expect to die, in vast numbers, it's required for them to win. 19 out of 20 will die, but God will win in the end.

You don't know your enemy therefore, you cannot win. And while I know your enemy, I am more their enemy than you will ever be. You are the unconverted, I am the devil himself.

I do understand that. THAT is why it is a stupid idea to agree to any kind of "deals" with them. If you give them an inch, they will take a mile, as the saying goes.

No, you don't understand. Your response was shallow, instant, and dogmatic. Know your enemy, which means walk a mile in his shoes, his Holy Book, and his history.

 

[orogenicman]

I don't believe in a lot of things that I tolerate. Get over it. Live and let live.

Let the queers get over it.

That's right, wear that bigotry on your sleeve like a good chap.

It's not bigotry. It's well deserved contempt.

Definitely bigotry.

What isn't bigotry? Why isn't contempt towards a Christian deemed bigotry? Hmm?

A bigot is "a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)."

Whether or not contempt is involved is irrelevant. I can have contempt of court because of a specific idea that I abhore, but that doesn't mean that I dislike the judge. I can have contempt for a religion or a religious view, but that doesn't mean that I dislike the religious PERSON. One can disagree with the religion and like the religious. My family is a classic example. I'm an atheist. Most of the rest of my family is devout Catholic. I intensely dislike Catholicism, but love my family. You can intensely dislike homosexuality for whatever reason. You can even dislike the homosexual. But you have no right to discriminate against them because they are homosexuals. The hatred needs to stop. They aren't hurting anyone by being gay any more than heterosexuals are hurting anyone by being heterosexual. Their sexual preference is no one else's business but their own.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I have never been asked to work a gay wedding but I would very happily do so if I was asked.

By all means feel free to do so, but this doesn't mean you get to force other photographers to do something that violates their faith. Discrimination is wrong, but coercion is no better.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Faggots should stop suing people who refuse to cater to their "lifestyle" and laws like this wouldn't be needed but of course the people in the right are blamed as usual. Indiana will survive and faggots will get over it.

I'm not quite sure how baking a cake "caters" to anyone's lifestyle. Its just a cake.

Its agreeing to make a cake for something you don't believe in which is a homosexual "marriage".

What someone who bakes cakes for a living believes in is getting paid, on time, for said cake.

Exactly.

As a professional photographer I have two rules.

1. It must be legal.

2. I must be paid.

That's it.

I have never been asked to work a gay wedding but I would very happily do so if I was asked.

You are my kind of capitalist. All you see is the color green. In this case, but not every case, that is all that matters.

 

[ChrisL]

Faggots should stop suing people who refuse to cater to their "lifestyle" and laws like this wouldn't be needed but of course the people in the right are blamed as usual. Indiana will survive and faggots will get over it.

I'm not quite sure how baking a cake "caters" to anyone's lifestyle. Its just a cake.

Its agreeing to make a cake for something you don't believe in which is a homosexual "marriage".

What someone who bakes cakes for a living believes in is getting paid, on time, for said cake.

Exactly.

As a professional photographer I have two rules.

1. It must be legal.

2. I must be paid.

That's it.

I have never been asked to work a gay wedding but I would very happily do so if I was asked.

And that's wonderful. That is your own prerogative. I also think it is kind of silly to refuse to bake a cake or take pictures because the couple is gay. I couldn't care less either, as long as I got paid for my services. However, some people have different beliefs, and it's a conundrum. If it is YOUR business, the government should not be able to force you to do business with people you do not like, do not trust, whatever the reason. Then, those people lose money and business. That is how capitalism works.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Let the queers get over it.

That's right, wear that bigotry on your sleeve like a good chap.

It's not bigotry. It's well deserved contempt.

Definitely bigotry.

What isn't bigotry? Why isn't contempt towards a Christian deemed bigotry? Hmm?

A bigot is "a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)."

Or, you can completely bastardize the definition.

Bigotry is hatred of any idea or belief or people, whether of gays or of Christians, blacks or whites. You sir match that very definition.

 

[orogenicman]

What isn't bigotry? Why isn't contempt towards a Christian deemed bigotry? Hmm?

A bigot is "a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)."

Whether or not contempt is involved is irrelevant. I can have contempt of court because of a specific idea that I abhore, but that doesn't mean that I dislike the judge. I can have contempt for a religion or a religious view, but that doesn't mean that I dislike the religious PERSON. One can disagree with the religion and like the religious. My family is a classic example. I'm an atheist. Most of the rest of my family is devout Catholic. I intensely dislike Catholicism, but love my family. You can intensely dislike homosexuality for whatever reason. You can even dislike the homosexual. But you have no right to discriminate against them because they are homosexuals. And to hide behind a religion (or a law) to justify one's hatred of a group of people is immoral. The hatred needs to stop. They aren't hurting anyone by being gay any more than heterosexuals are hurting anyone by being heterosexual. Their sexual preference is no one else's business but their own.

 

[eots]

Waiting to cut out the deadwood.
Waiting to clean up the city.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to put on a black shirt.
Waiting to weed out the weaklings.
Waiting to smash in their windows
And kick in their doors.
Waiting for the final solution
To strengthen the strain.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to turn on the showers
And fire the ovens.
Waiting for the queens and the coons
and the reds and the jews.
Waiting to follow the worms.

Waiting for Worms lyrics - The Wall Lyrics - Pink Floyd Lyrics

Oh, how poignant. A little hyperbolic?

Waiting for Worms lyrics - The Wall Lyrics - Pink Floyd Lyrics
probably not to the next homo to get their head kicked in by some simpleton because the state confirmed they are less than

 

[ChrisL]

Oh, again you bring up ANCIENT history and try to compare that to today's day and age. Lol. Silly boy.

Maybe you should learn Islam, where an insult of a thousand years ago was fucking yesterday. Oh that's right, you have no clue about Islam because you never studied it, like the rest of the dumbshits here.

And somehow, by magic I guess, a religion of warriors is supposed to be better than a religion of peacemakers, who spent five hundred years chopping off the heads of Muslims, Jews, and other unbelievers, when that is they weren't slaughtering each other. History matters, learn to apply it.

No, THAT is not relevant to today. That is absurd.

You are utterly wrong. You cannot begin to understand Islam until you understand the world as they see it, an eternal struggle (Jihad), to convert man to the Will (Submission), of God (Allah). Those fighting for ISIS expect to die, in vast numbers, it's required for them to win. 19 out of 20 will die, but God will win in the end.

You don't know your enemy therefore, you cannot win. And while I know your enemy, I am more their enemy than you will ever be. You are the unconverted, I am the devil himself.

I do understand that. THAT is why it is a stupid idea to agree to any kind of "deals" with them. If you give them an inch, they will take a mile, as the saying goes.

No, you don't understand. Your response was shallow, instant, and dogmatic. Know your enemy, which means walk a mile in his shoes, his Holy Book, and his history.

Yes I do understand. Making deals with such people is utterly ridiculous.

 

[ChrisL]

Let the queers get over it.

That's right, wear that bigotry on your sleeve like a good chap.

It's not bigotry. It's well deserved contempt.

Definitely bigotry.

What isn't bigotry? Why isn't contempt towards a Christian deemed bigotry? Hmm?

A bigot is "a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)."

Whether or not contempt is involved is irrelevant. I can have contempt of court because of a specific idea that I abhore, but that doesn't mean that I dislike the judge. I can have contempt for a religion or a religious view, but that doesn't mean that I dislike the religious PERSON. One can disagree with the religion and like the religious. My family is a classic example. I'm an atheist. Most of the rest of my family is devout Catholic. I intensely dislike Catholicism, but love my family. You can intensely dislike homosexuality for whatever reason. You can even dislike the homosexual. But you have no right to discriminate against them because they are homosexuals. The hatred needs to stop. They aren't hurting anyone by being gay any more than heterosexuals are hurting anyone by being heterosexual. Their sexual preference is no one else's business but their own.

I have to disagree. I think that a business owner should be able to choose who she or he does business with. There could be many different reasons why a person would choose not to do business with another. The government has no right to involve itself in those choices.

 

[orogenicman]

That's right, wear that bigotry on your sleeve like a good chap.

It's not bigotry. It's well deserved contempt.

Definitely bigotry.

What isn't bigotry? Why isn't contempt towards a Christian deemed bigotry? Hmm?

A bigot is "a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)."

Or, you can completely bastardize the definition.

My definition comes from dictionary.com