Impeachment is a constitutional tool. Let’s use it against Kennedy and Roberts

[johnwk]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

 

[PratchettFan]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors - not because you don't like their opinion. Why is it that the people who scream about the Constitution the most want to toss it out the window whenever they don't get their way?

 

[JoeMoma]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors - not because you don't like their opinion. Why is it that the people who scream about the Constitution the most want to toss it out the window whenever they don't get their way?

Congress gets to determine what high crimes and misdemeanors are in the case of impeachment. Bottom line, if the votes are there then impeachment is there. That being said, the votes aren't there.

 

[PratchettFan]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors - not because you don't like their opinion. Why is it that the people who scream about the Constitution the most want to toss it out the window whenever they don't get their way?

Congress gets to determine what high crimes and misdemeanors are in the case of impeachment. Bottom line, if the votes are there then impeachment is there. That being said, the votes aren't there.

No. Congress doesn't get to determine that. Article 1, Section 9: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

The person being impeached has to be charged with the violation of a law in existence at the time of the alleged violation. Congress can't just make it up as they go along. Impeachment is a judicial procedure, not a political one.

 

[occupied]

Congress gets to determine what high crimes and misdemeanors are in the case of impeachment. Bottom line, if the votes are there then impeachment is there. That being said, the votes aren't there.

What laws have been broken? The biblical laws of God do not count.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I liked this forum better when not every conservative here was totally insane...

...or am I imagining that ever existed?

 

[PratchettFan]

I liked this forum better when not every conservative here was totally insane...

...or am I imagining that ever existed?

None of the insane ones are conservatives. They've just hijacked the name and we will get it back.

 

[occupied]

I liked this forum better when not every conservative here was totally insane...

...or am I imagining that ever existed?

No it did not used to be this way. Getting to be a drag.

 

[Freewill]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors - not because you don't like their opinion. Why is it that the people who scream about the Constitution the most want to toss it out the window whenever they don't get their way?

Congress gets to determine what high crimes and misdemeanors are in the case of impeachment. Bottom line, if the votes are there then impeachment is there. That being said, the votes aren't there.

No. Congress doesn't get to determine that. Article 1, Section 9: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

The person being impeached has to be charged with the violation of a law in existence at the time of the alleged violation. Congress can't just make it up as they go along. Impeachment is a judicial procedure, not a political one.

Although impeachment is not going to happen there does not need for there to be an actual law. As the SCOTUS ruled in the ACA case all that is needed is for Congress to decide the intent of the justices was to commit a crime. The actual wording of any law doesn't really matter.

 

[nat4900]

Technically, Roberts would be presiding over his OWN impeachment hearing, right O/P ???

 

[Freewill]

I liked this forum better when not every conservative here was totally insane...

...or am I imagining that ever existed?

The truly insane imagine a lot of things that are not real.

 

[occupied]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors - not because you don't like their opinion. Why is it that the people who scream about the Constitution the most want to toss it out the window whenever they don't get their way?

Congress gets to determine what high crimes and misdemeanors are in the case of impeachment. Bottom line, if the votes are there then impeachment is there. That being said, the votes aren't there.

No. Congress doesn't get to determine that. Article 1, Section 9: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

The person being impeached has to be charged with the violation of a law in existence at the time of the alleged violation. Congress can't just make it up as they go along. Impeachment is a judicial procedure, not a political one.

Although impeachment is not going to happen there does not need for there to be an actual law. As the SCOTUS ruled in the ACA case all that is needed is for Congress to decide the intent of the justices was to commit a crime. The actual wording of any law doesn't really matter.

Wrong.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Oh yes let's! Let's set a precedent for the People rising up and throwing out Supreme Court decisions we don't like. Once that's done, corporations and Wall Street's next!

 

[JoeMoma]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors - not because you don't like their opinion. Why is it that the people who scream about the Constitution the most want to toss it out the window whenever they don't get their way?

Congress gets to determine what high crimes and misdemeanors are in the case of impeachment. Bottom line, if the votes are there then impeachment is there. That being said, the votes aren't there.

No. Congress doesn't get to determine that. Article 1, Section 9: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

The person being impeached has to be charged with the violation of a law in existence at the time of the alleged violation. Congress can't just make it up as they go along. Impeachment is a judicial procedure, not a political one.

And in the case of impeachment its congress that carries out the entire process. Just as the Supreme Court can interpret the constitution as they see fit to come up with their rulings, congress can interpret the constitution and laws as they see fit for impeachment. Since its congress that brings up the charges in their forum, they get to vote as they see fit.

 

[DGS49]

Unfortunately, there is no provision for removing an official for violation of his oath of office.

I don't know why the OP is directed at Roberts and Kennedy. There are four other bastards there who are dramatically worse. Do they get a pass?

Not that this could ever happen anyway.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Impeachment is a constitutional tool. Let’s use it against Kennedy and Roberts

 

[NYcarbineer]

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"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

So you're citing one judge's opinion as your case to void another judge's opinion?

That's sort of circular isn't it?

Let's quote a founder then, Alexander Hamilton:

Hamilton gives us the answer: “the courts,” he says, have “the right[]…to pronounce legislative acts void, because contrary to the Constitution.” Courts, he explained, “were designed to be an intermediate body between the people and the legislature,” entrusted with the power “to keep the latter within the limits assigned to their authority.

The interpretation of the laws is the proper and peculiar province of the courts. A constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by the judges, as a fundamental law.

It therefore belongs to them to ascertain its meaning, as well as the meaning of any particular act proceeding from the legislative body.”

 

[PratchettFan]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors - not because you don't like their opinion. Why is it that the people who scream about the Constitution the most want to toss it out the window whenever they don't get their way?

Congress gets to determine what high crimes and misdemeanors are in the case of impeachment. Bottom line, if the votes are there then impeachment is there. That being said, the votes aren't there.

No. Congress doesn't get to determine that. Article 1, Section 9: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

The person being impeached has to be charged with the violation of a law in existence at the time of the alleged violation. Congress can't just make it up as they go along. Impeachment is a judicial procedure, not a political one.

Although impeachment is not going to happen there does not need for there to be an actual law. As the SCOTUS ruled in the ACA case all that is needed is for Congress to decide the intent of the justices was to commit a crime. The actual wording of any law doesn't really matter.

Yes. There has to be an actual law. You can't commit a crime if there is no law. And please do point out where in the ACA decision SCOTUS covered the procedure for impeachment.

 

[PratchettFan]

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors - not because you don't like their opinion. Why is it that the people who scream about the Constitution the most want to toss it out the window whenever they don't get their way?

Congress gets to determine what high crimes and misdemeanors are in the case of impeachment. Bottom line, if the votes are there then impeachment is there. That being said, the votes aren't there.

No. Congress doesn't get to determine that. Article 1, Section 9: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

The person being impeached has to be charged with the violation of a law in existence at the time of the alleged violation. Congress can't just make it up as they go along. Impeachment is a judicial procedure, not a political one.

And in the case of impeachment its congress that carries out the entire process. Just as the Supreme Court can interpret the constitution as they see fit to come up with their rulings, congress can interpret the constitution and laws as they see fit for impeachment. Since its congress that brings up the charges in their forum, they get to vote as they see fit.

No, they can't. This is why, despite all of the investigations going on, that Clinton was not impeached until it could be shown he had committed perjury - and that was the basis of the impeachment. He committed a crime.

 

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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

If there is a Constitutional remedy for the actions of this sorry ass court, it is the amendment process, not the impeachment process.

If enough Americans really give a shit about gay marriage(I really don't) then the Constitution can be amended to define marriage as one man and one woman.

I wonder how long the concept that marriage is reserved for couples can survive.

There is no logical reason people should be denied the right to enter into marriages with multiple partners if they so desire.