Rand Paul: Government Should Get Out of the Marriage Business Altogether

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He's right on the money. I've been saying this for years.


Rand Paul Government Should Get Out of the Marriage Business
While I disagree with Supreme Court’s redefinition of marriage, I believe that all Americans have the right to contract.

The Constitution is silent on the question of marriage because marriage has always been a local issue. Our founding fathers went to the local courthouse to be married, not to Washington, D.C.

I’ve often said I don’t want my guns or my marriage registered in Washington.

Those who disagree with the recent Supreme Court ruling argue that the court should not overturn the will of legislative majorities. Those who favor the Supreme Court ruling argue that the 14th Amendment protects rights from legislative majorities.

Do consenting adults have a right to contract with other consenting adults? Supporters of the Supreme Court’s decision argue yes but they argue no when it comes to economic liberties, like contracts regarding wages.

It seems some rights are more equal than others.

Marriage, though a contract, is also more than just a simple contract.

I acknowledge the right to contract in all economic and personal spheres, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a danger that a government that involves itself in every nook and cranny of our lives won’t now enforce definitions that conflict with sincerely felt religious convictions of others.

Some have argued that the Supreme Court’s ruling will now involve the police power of the state in churches, church schools, church hospitals.

This may well become the next step, and I for one will stand ready to resist any intrusion of government into the religious sphere.

Justice Clarence Thomas is correct in his dissent when he says: “In the American legal tradition, liberty has long been understood as individual freedom from governmental action, not as a right to a particular governmental entitlement.”

The government should not prevent people from making contracts but that does not mean that the government must confer a special imprimatur upon a new definition of marriage.

Perhaps the time has come to examine whether or not governmental recognition of marriage is a good idea, for either party.

Since government has been involved in marriage, they have done what they always do — taxed it, regulated it, and now redefined it. It is hard to argue that government’s involvement in marriage has made it better, a fact also not surprising to those who believe government does little right.

So now, states such as Alabama are beginning to understand this as they begin to get out of the marriage licensing business altogether. Will others follow?

Thomas goes on to say:

To the extent that the Framers would have recognized a natural right to marriage that fell within the broader definition of liberty, it would not have included a right to governmental recognition and benefits. Instead, it would have included a right to engage in the very same activities that petitioners have been left free to engage in — making vows, holding religious ceremonies celebrating those vows, raising children, and otherwise enjoying the society of one’s spouse — without governmental interference.

The 14th Amendment does not command the government endorsement that is conveyed by the word “marriage.” State legislatures are entitled to express their preference for traditional marriage, so long as the equal rights of same-sex couples are protected.

So the questions now before us are: What are those rights? What does government convey along with marriage, and should it do so? Should the government care, or allocate any benefits based on marital status?

And can the government do its main job in the aftermath of this ruling — the protection of liberty, particularly religious liberty and free speech?

We shall see. I will fight to ensure it does both, along with taking part in a discussion on the role of government in our lives.

Perhaps it is time to be more careful what we ask government to do, and where we allow it to become part of our lives.

The Constitution was written by wise men who were raised up by God for that very purpose. There is a reason ours was the first where rights came from our creator and therefore could not be taken away by government. Government was instituted to protect them.

We have gotten away from that idea. Too far away. We must turn back. To protect our rights we must understand who granted them and who can help us restore them.
 
yup...fill those pools kids. If you gotta swim with the gays, we'll just get rid of the pools.

Same bullshit, different decade.
...too a retard. But you've removed all doubt. Anyone marrying anyone offends you? You fucking hypocrite!

SeaWytch wants to force people to swim with gays

But in the shower room, she wants only gay couples with the right to shower together. Screw the hetro couple.

Gay couples have MORE RIGHTS than hetro couples now.
 
yup...fill those pools kids. If you gotta swim with the gays, we'll just get rid of the pools.

Same bullshit, different decade.
...too a retard....

Oh the irony...:lol:

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yup...fill those pools kids. If you gotta swim with the gays, we'll just get rid of the pools.

Same bullshit, different decade.
...too a retard. But you've removed all doubt. Anyone marrying anyone offends you? You fucking hypocrite!

SeaWytch wants to force people to swim with gays

But in the shower room, she wants only gay couples with the right to shower together. Screw the hetro couple.

Gay couples have MORE RIGHTS than hetro couples now.

Oh look, Pops is back. How'd all your silly arguments go in court, Pops? Procreation? Failed! :lol:

How do gays have more rights, Pops?

(this is gonna be good)
 
yup...fill those pools kids. If you gotta swim with the gays, we'll just get rid of the pools.

Same bullshit, different decade.
...too a retard....

Oh the irony...:lol:

1378783967To-Two-Too_Poster.png
Cartoons are your limit. You're a hypocrite, cartoons won't make it unnoticeable. And a dimwitted activist hypocrite at that. There's no compelling reason for the state to be in the marriage business if we are going to have cheap imitations of marriage now.

This morning right outside my window there were two bunnies running around, one chasing the other. I'll bet you don't even know why.
 
Both left and right will say no.

I for one have no trouble making civil unions the law of the land, and letting any organization religious or not that wants to marry someone with no legal ramifications do so.
 
yup...fill those pools kids. If you gotta swim with the gays, we'll just get rid of the pools.

Same bullshit, different decade.
...too a retard. But you've removed all doubt. Anyone marrying anyone offends you? You fucking hypocrite!

SeaWytch wants to force people to swim with gays

But in the shower room, she wants only gay couples with the right to shower together. Screw the hetro couple.

Gay couples have MORE RIGHTS than hetro couples now.
:slap:
 
So far no good reason to keep the state interest in marriage. When did we start needing a license anyway? I think people used to just go to a church and tie the knot.
 
No one is saying that we cannot or should not replace marriage with civil unions.

Let's go into business with Weasel's Ice Cream and Wedding Parlor.
 
A lone voice of reason. And that's of course why he can't be President. He's not a NWO Globalist Elite puppet. He fights for less Government intrusion and the Constitution. The Elites can't choose him to be the American President. It is very sad, but it is what it is.
 
yup...fill those pools kids. If you gotta swim with the gays, we'll just get rid of the pools.

Same bullshit, different decade.
...too a retard. But you've removed all doubt. Anyone marrying anyone offends you? You fucking hypocrite!

SeaWytch wants to force people to swim with gays

But in the shower room, she wants only gay couples with the right to shower together. Screw the hetro couple.

Gay couples have MORE RIGHTS than hetro couples now.

Oh look, Pops is back. How'd all your silly arguments go in court, Pops? Procreation? Failed! :lol:

How do gays have more rights, Pops?

(this is gonna be good)

I listed them above bigot
 
Government should mind its business. But with so many addicted to Government handout scraps, Big Brother will continue to expand his power and control of the People.

You sacrifice a whole lotta freedom & liberty to get those scraps. The reality is, less Government scares many Americans. They're scared to death they may not get their Freebies.
 
yup...fill those pools kids. If you gotta swim with the gays, we'll just get rid of the pools.

Same bullshit, different decade.
...too a retard. But you've removed all doubt. Anyone marrying anyone offends you? You fucking hypocrite!

SeaWytch wants to force people to swim with gays

But in the shower room, she wants only gay couples with the right to shower together. Screw the hetro couple.

Gay couples have MORE RIGHTS than hetro couples now.

Oh look, Pops is back. How'd all your silly arguments go in court, Pops? Procreation? Failed! :lol:

How do gays have more rights, Pops?

(this is gonna be good)

I listed them above bigot

Showers? That's where your argument is? I'll have you know I'm a firm supporter of artisan communal showers for all.

I also support shower curtains.


Where does that leave you?
 
The Government can't get out of the marriage business. There's lots of cash to be made. Big Bother is not your friend. He's not there to help you. He's there to control you and steal from you. He's the head of the biggest Mafia on earth. So, nice try Rand. But it ain't gonna happen.
 

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