Immigrants Grow American GDP

[bripat9643]

The OP is a cut and paste because the OP nerd is apparently an illiterate, Europobic idiot who cannot write a paragraph in English. Folks, illegal aliens are not immigrants. Saying illegal aliens are legal immigrants is like saying a ghetto rapist who attacked your daughter last week is the same as your daughter's husband. They are both after the same thing and therefore law, order, ethics, truth, reality, good and evil does not matter.

What evidence do you have that "illegal aliens" are more likely to be rapists than native born Americans? Try thinking (if you can) about the situation like this: how does the US turn "illegal aliens" into legal immigrants, or are you sufficiently ignorant to believe the US is "full"?

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag. Trump has enforced this method, which Democrats call racist. The bottom line is that Democrats clearly want open borders and to allow anyone to come into the US, legally or not and whether they contribute or not. There is not ONE single sane person who thinks this is a recipe for success. We can't pay for healthcare and welfare for the entire world. That is what the far-left is pushing for, but some are too ignorant to see it.

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag

"There is no way to figure out precisely how many more immigrants the national economy could easily absorb without a lot of guessing. Powerful forces like technology, globalization and the decline in union strength can heave economies around willy-nilly, benefiting some workers and hurting others, regardless of immigration."

How many migrants are too many?

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November.

"In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage.

 

[RodISHI]

Either start paying Americans to work in the fields or put guards on to watch over them and start make prisoners pay their own way by sending them out to the fields if they are healthy and capable. That is not cruel and unusual punishment.

The largest population, according to the Prison Policy Initiative, is in state prisons, which includes 99,000 inmates. That's reasonably close to the Florida Department of Corrections' own numbers, which put the total at 96,000 for the 2017-2018 fiscal year.Jun 10, 2019

 

[RodISHI]

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage.

Just a little interesting note for you. I've noticed the majority of the tomatoes at the store are bruised all to crap. So who ever is picking the ones we've been getting are doing a shit job.

 

[georgephillip]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

Truly stupid post, created by TDS.

What you have then is only the most important jobs getting filled, with a higher pay to benefit Americans, not Mexicans. Why in the hell would we want more people in the country that vote anti-American? More Omars and AOCs? No thanks...

If you feel like there are not enough people in America, go make a baby.

What you have then is only the most important jobs getting filled, with a higher pay to benefit Americans, not Mexicans. Why in the hell would we want more people in the country that vote anti-American? More Omars and AOCs? No thanks...

Not enough white skins among today's migrant population for your taste?

Try putting aside delusions of political and racial superiority and look at other numbers:

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"And the numbers, most economists say, indicate that there is plenty of room.

"Immigrants make the country richer, they argue.

"'Without immigration, we shrink as a nation,' said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former director of the Congressional Budget Office who has advised Republican presidential candidates and now leads the conservative American Action Forum.

"That’s because growth is driven by two ingredients: the size of the work force and how efficiently those workers produce things. And both are creeping well behind the postwar average."

If 50 million Bangladeshis flood into the country tomorrow, yes the "country's" GDP would grow because there would be more people here. But the wages for most Americans would drop, while the very few at the top would be able to get even richer by squeezing even more out of their workers. So, tell us how this growing GDP is such a good thing again?

And your cheap shot at Norman is even worse than your economic ignorance. 50 million Bangladeshis would radically alter the nation politically with unpredictable results, WHITE OR NOT. But then, you knew that, didn't you?

If 50 million Bangladeshis flood into the country tomorrow, yes the "country's" GDP would grow because there would be more people here. But the wages for most Americans would drop, while the very few at the top would be able to get even richer by squeezing even more out of their workers. So, tell us how this growing GDP is such a good thing again?

Why would fifty million Bangladeshisi refugees flood the US?

To escape a Chinese Hoax?

I can assure you that people who are starving in other countries to not have climate change anywhere near the top of their list of priorities. That is a left-wing pipe dream, but I have no doubt they attempt to indocrinate the less educated and less fortunate any chance they get.

I can assure you that people who are starving in other countries to not have climate change anywhere near the top of their list of priorities. That is a left-wing pipe dream, but I have no doubt they attempt to indocrinate the less educated and less fortunate any chance they get

Actually, climate change is one big reason why millions of people are starving in other countries, and the worst is yet to come.

"Estimates for how many people will relocate because of climate change vary between 25 million to 1 billion by mid century, according to the UN International Organization for Migration (IOM). The UN warns that by 2045, 135 million people may be displaced by desertification alone."

Building walls to keep climate refugees out | DW | 11.04.2019

 

[georgephillip]

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

Why Don't They Get Their Agricultural Work Visas
It Not Like They've Never Heard Of Them

"We Need Immigrants"
Do You Think All Immigrants Are "Illegal"
Are You All Unable To Utter There Is A Difference

Why Don't They Get Their Agricultural Work Visas
It Not Like They've Never Heard Of Them

Why don't you ask Trump that question.

Then ask him how many illegals his golf courses are currently employing.

 

[Third Party]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

AUTOMATION! Its coming anyway and we have to deport 22 million illegal scumballs.

Indeed. Only a democrat is dumb enough to argue at the same time that automation is replacing all the jobs, and that we need more cheap labor. Pick one for fucks sake.

Automation isn't replacing all the jobs.

Those that illegals would do

 

[ptbw forever]

Truly stupid post, created by TDS.

What you have then is only the most important jobs getting filled, with a higher pay to benefit Americans, not Mexicans. Why in the hell would we want more people in the country that vote anti-American? More Omars and AOCs? No thanks...

If you feel like there are not enough people in America, go make a baby.

What you have then is only the most important jobs getting filled, with a higher pay to benefit Americans, not Mexicans. Why in the hell would we want more people in the country that vote anti-American? More Omars and AOCs? No thanks...

Not enough white skins among today's migrant population for your taste?

Try putting aside delusions of political and racial superiority and look at other numbers:

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"And the numbers, most economists say, indicate that there is plenty of room.

"Immigrants make the country richer, they argue.

"'Without immigration, we shrink as a nation,' said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former director of the Congressional Budget Office who has advised Republican presidential candidates and now leads the conservative American Action Forum.

"That’s because growth is driven by two ingredients: the size of the work force and how efficiently those workers produce things. And both are creeping well behind the postwar average."

If 50 million Bangladeshis flood into the country tomorrow, yes the "country's" GDP would grow because there would be more people here. But the wages for most Americans would drop, while the very few at the top would be able to get even richer by squeezing even more out of their workers. So, tell us how this growing GDP is such a good thing again?

And your cheap shot at Norman is even worse than your economic ignorance. 50 million Bangladeshis would radically alter the nation politically with unpredictable results, WHITE OR NOT. But then, you knew that, didn't you?

If 50 million Bangladeshis flood into the country tomorrow, yes the "country's" GDP would grow because there would be more people here. But the wages for most Americans would drop, while the very few at the top would be able to get even richer by squeezing even more out of their workers. So, tell us how this growing GDP is such a good thing again?

Why would fifty million Bangladeshisi refugees flood the US?

To escape a Chinese Hoax?

I can assure you that people who are starving in other countries to not have climate change anywhere near the top of their list of priorities. That is a left-wing pipe dream, but I have no doubt they attempt to indocrinate the less educated and less fortunate any chance they get.

I can assure you that people who are starving in other countries to not have climate change anywhere near the top of their list of priorities. That is a left-wing pipe dream, but I have no doubt they attempt to indocrinate the less educated and less fortunate any chance they get

Actually, climate change is one big reason why millions of people are starving in other countries, and the worst is yet to come.

"Estimates for how many people will relocate because of climate change vary between 25 million to 1 billion by mid century, according to the UN International Organization for Migration (IOM). The UN warns that by 2045, 135 million people may be displaced by desertification alone."

Building walls to keep climate refugees out | DW | 11.04.2019

They will just die, they won't be displaced.

California and much of the US will be gone by then, there will be nowhere for them to go.

 

[georgephillip]

The OP is a cut and paste because the OP nerd is apparently an illiterate, Europobic idiot who cannot write a paragraph in English. Folks, illegal aliens are not immigrants. Saying illegal aliens are legal immigrants is like saying a ghetto rapist who attacked your daughter last week is the same as your daughter's husband. They are both after the same thing and therefore law, order, ethics, truth, reality, good and evil does not matter.

What evidence do you have that "illegal aliens" are more likely to be rapists than native born Americans? Try thinking (if you can) about the situation like this: how does the US turn "illegal aliens" into legal immigrants, or are you sufficiently ignorant to believe the US is "full"?

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag. Trump has enforced this method, which Democrats call racist. The bottom line is that Democrats clearly want open borders and to allow anyone to come into the US, legally or not and whether they contribute or not. There is not ONE single sane person who thinks this is a recipe for success. We can't pay for healthcare and welfare for the entire world. That is what the far-left is pushing for, but some are too ignorant to see it.

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag

"There is no way to figure out precisely how many more immigrants the national economy could easily absorb without a lot of guessing. Powerful forces like technology, globalization and the decline in union strength can heave economies around willy-nilly, benefiting some workers and hurting others, regardless of immigration."

How many migrants are too many?

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November.

"In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage.

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage

What would a competitive wage for farm work be in your informed opinion?

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed.

"That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers.

"'In every market that we’re in, we’re dealing with staffing shortages,' said Pilar Carvajal, the founder and chief executive of Innovation Senior Management, which manages seven assisted-living centers in Florida. Entry-level workers in the area make from $10 to $12 an hour — the same as a dishwasher and slightly more than a farmworker."

 

[ptbw forever]

The OP is a cut and paste because the OP nerd is apparently an illiterate, Europobic idiot who cannot write a paragraph in English. Folks, illegal aliens are not immigrants. Saying illegal aliens are legal immigrants is like saying a ghetto rapist who attacked your daughter last week is the same as your daughter's husband. They are both after the same thing and therefore law, order, ethics, truth, reality, good and evil does not matter.

What evidence do you have that "illegal aliens" are more likely to be rapists than native born Americans? Try thinking (if you can) about the situation like this: how does the US turn "illegal aliens" into legal immigrants, or are you sufficiently ignorant to believe the US is "full"?

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag. Trump has enforced this method, which Democrats call racist. The bottom line is that Democrats clearly want open borders and to allow anyone to come into the US, legally or not and whether they contribute or not. There is not ONE single sane person who thinks this is a recipe for success. We can't pay for healthcare and welfare for the entire world. That is what the far-left is pushing for, but some are too ignorant to see it.

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag

"There is no way to figure out precisely how many more immigrants the national economy could easily absorb without a lot of guessing. Powerful forces like technology, globalization and the decline in union strength can heave economies around willy-nilly, benefiting some workers and hurting others, regardless of immigration."

How many migrants are too many?

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November.

"In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage.

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage

What would a competitive wage for farm work be in your informed opinion?

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed.

"That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers.

"'In every market that we’re in, we’re dealing with staffing shortages,' said Pilar Carvajal, the founder and chief executive of Innovation Senior Management, which manages seven assisted-living centers in Florida. Entry-level workers in the area make from $10 to $12 an hour — the same as a dishwasher and slightly more than a farmworker."

Florida is yet another state that was completely destroyed by immigration. Too many retirees and Hispanics and no children.

 

[georgephillip]

Either start paying Americans to work in the fields or put guards on to watch over them and start make prisoners pay their own way by sending them out to the fields if they are healthy and capable. That is not cruel and unusual punishment.

The largest population, according to the Prison Policy Initiative, is in state prisons, which includes 99,000 inmates. That's reasonably close to the Florida Department of Corrections' own numbers, which put the total at 96,000 for the 2017-2018 fiscal year.Jun 10, 2019

Would prisoners have the right to decide if they want to work in the fields? How much would they be paid?

Farmers turn to prisons to fill labor needs

"Prison inmates are picking fruits and vegetables at a rate not seen since Jim Crow.

"Convict leasing for agriculture – a system that allows states to sell prison labor to private farms – became infamous in the late 1800s for the brutal conditionsit imposed on captive, mostly black workers.

"Federal and state laws prohibited convict leasing for most of the 20th century, but the once-notorious practice is making a comeback.

"Under lucrative arrangements, states are increasingly leasing prisoners to private corporations to harvest food for American consumers."

 

[bripat9643]

The OP is a cut and paste because the OP nerd is apparently an illiterate, Europobic idiot who cannot write a paragraph in English. Folks, illegal aliens are not immigrants. Saying illegal aliens are legal immigrants is like saying a ghetto rapist who attacked your daughter last week is the same as your daughter's husband. They are both after the same thing and therefore law, order, ethics, truth, reality, good and evil does not matter.

What evidence do you have that "illegal aliens" are more likely to be rapists than native born Americans? Try thinking (if you can) about the situation like this: how does the US turn "illegal aliens" into legal immigrants, or are you sufficiently ignorant to believe the US is "full"?

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag. Trump has enforced this method, which Democrats call racist. The bottom line is that Democrats clearly want open borders and to allow anyone to come into the US, legally or not and whether they contribute or not. There is not ONE single sane person who thinks this is a recipe for success. We can't pay for healthcare and welfare for the entire world. That is what the far-left is pushing for, but some are too ignorant to see it.

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag

"There is no way to figure out precisely how many more immigrants the national economy could easily absorb without a lot of guessing. Powerful forces like technology, globalization and the decline in union strength can heave economies around willy-nilly, benefiting some workers and hurting others, regardless of immigration."

How many migrants are too many?

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November.

"In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage.

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage

What would a competitive wage for farm work be in your informed opinion?

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed.

"That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers.

"'In every market that we’re in, we’re dealing with staffing shortages,' said Pilar Carvajal, the founder and chief executive of Innovation Senior Management, which manages seven assisted-living centers in Florida. Entry-level workers in the area make from $10 to $12 an hour — the same as a dishwasher and slightly more than a farmworker."

The market determines what competitive wages are. When employers can fill their positions, they are paying a competitive wage.

 

[karpenter]

Why don't you ask Trump that question.

Why Don't You Answer It ??

Then ask him how many illegals his golf courses are currently employing.

Why Don't You Answer That ??

 

[Crixus]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

To answer Mr. DiMare's question, that's his problem. Fuck him and his goddamn tomatoes.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The OP is a cut and paste because the OP nerd is apparently an illiterate, Europobic idiot who cannot write a paragraph in English. Folks, illegal aliens are not immigrants. Saying illegal aliens are legal immigrants is like saying a ghetto rapist who attacked your daughter last week is the same as your daughter's husband. They are both after the same thing and therefore law, order, ethics, truth, reality, good and evil does not matter.

What evidence do you have that "illegal aliens" are more likely to be rapists than native born Americans? Try thinking (if you can) about the situation like this: how does the US turn "illegal aliens" into legal immigrants, or are you sufficiently ignorant to believe the US is "full"?

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag. Trump has enforced this method, which Democrats call racist. The bottom line is that Democrats clearly want open borders and to allow anyone to come into the US, legally or not and whether they contribute or not. There is not ONE single sane person who thinks this is a recipe for success. We can't pay for healthcare and welfare for the entire world. That is what the far-left is pushing for, but some are too ignorant to see it.

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag

"There is no way to figure out precisely how many more immigrants the national economy could easily absorb without a lot of guessing. Powerful forces like technology, globalization and the decline in union strength can heave economies around willy-nilly, benefiting some workers and hurting others, regardless of immigration."

How many migrants are too many?

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November.

"In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage.

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage

What would a competitive wage for farm work be in your informed opinion?

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed.

"That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers.

"'In every market that we’re in, we’re dealing with staffing shortages,' said Pilar Carvajal, the founder and chief executive of Innovation Senior Management, which manages seven assisted-living centers in Florida. Entry-level workers in the area make from $10 to $12 an hour — the same as a dishwasher and slightly more than a farmworker."

That’s great news...nothing drives up wages like job vacancies / employee shortages.

 

[RodISHI]

Either start paying Americans to work in the fields or put guards on to watch over them and start make prisoners pay their own way by sending them out to the fields if they are healthy and capable. That is not cruel and unusual punishment.

The largest population, according to the Prison Policy Initiative, is in state prisons, which includes 99,000 inmates. That's reasonably close to the Florida Department of Corrections' own numbers, which put the total at 96,000 for the 2017-2018 fiscal year.Jun 10, 2019

Would prisoners have the right to decide if they want to work in the fields? How much would they be paid?

Farmers turn to prisons to fill labor needs

"Prison inmates are picking fruits and vegetables at a rate not seen since Jim Crow.

"Convict leasing for agriculture – a system that allows states to sell prison labor to private farms – became infamous in the late 1800s for the brutal conditionsit imposed on captive, mostly black workers.

"Federal and state laws prohibited convict leasing for most of the 20th century, but the once-notorious practice is making a comeback.

"Under lucrative arrangements, states are increasingly leasing prisoners to private corporations to harvest food for American consumers."

How much does it cost to keep an inmate incarcerated for them breaking the law?

Give them choices of what type of menial work they prefer to do.

Shouldn't any one convicted be mandated to pay restitution to the victims of their crimes if there is a means by which to do so?

For prisoners that will be released at some point the system can put a percentage of the labor wages in trust to be used while they integrate back into society.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Weird, a guy who constantly moans about capitalists taking advantage of workers wants to flood America with cheap labor.

I'm not sure how a "free market" is supposed to distribute wealth equitably if capital is free to cross national borders and labor is not?

I'm not sure how a "free market" is supposed to distribute wealth equitably if capital is free to cross national borders and labor is not?

Let's boot 20 million illegal aliens.....then you can work on booting some capital.

 

[Street Juice]

Immigrants make America a much more diverse and happy place.

Exact opposite is true. With increased diversity comes decreased social trust, increased isolation and alienation, and political paralysis. It's almost as if the Jewish-owned New York Times has been lying to us.

Immigrants bring new foods,

Here, have some deer penis wine. It goes great with the sheep penis stir fry.

add higher workloads,

for law enforcement officers, remedial education teachers, fraud investigation units, and emergency room personnel

they also work for cheaper racking up profits.

for the rich factory owner...for the all the native-born workers, they drive down wages

 

[Meathead]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

What about unskilled immigrants from shitholes?

 

[Street Juice]

Cutting immigration does not kill jobs, moron.

Cutting immigration means jobs won't be filled, boi.

Also, looks like overseas military may have to spend more money mailing in their ballots.

Costs to mail ballots may skyrocket for civilians, military living overseas

If only someone in the White House was thinking about consequences.

Increasing immigration is what destroyed the middle class and caused the job openings to happen in the first place, boi.

No.

Yes

Increasing immigration reduces job opportunities, education opportunities and ultimately income and family opportunities for everyone not at the very top. Most people in areas with high immigration move out to compete with Americans in neighboring cities, counties and states for an ever smaller pool of jobs and resources for which to start up families, and those who move into a new area end up spending MORE money and resources than they would have if they could stay in their hometowns(which means they will be living paycheck to paycheck for years and not be able to start a family) to then take away slots from the locals and dramatically decrease the number of people who can afford to have families.

The decrease of the birth rate in America directly lines up with the increase of immigration.

No and especially when we aren't filling the open jobs we have now. From my original link.

Immigrants make up 17 percent of the U.S. labor force, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, but few experts believe they’re taking jobs from Americans, as Trump claims.

“Most economists agree that in spite of being a very big part of the labor force, immigrants have not come at the cost either of American jobs, nor of American wages,” Peri, the UC Davis professor, said.

The reason is that immigrants often have jobs that Americans tend not to take. So instead of competing with Americans’ for work, immigrants tend to complement American workers.

On a farm, for example, owners, managers and salespeople are often born in America. Immigrants tend to work as field hands. Neither group could do their job without the other.

Immigrants who work as child care providers give Americans, specifically women, more opportunity to join the labor force. And immigrants are playing an increasingly critical role in taking care of the elderly as baby boomers retire. Census data shows that immigrants accounted for 24 percent of nursing, psychiatric and home care aides in 2015.

A study from the bipartisan research organization New American Economy found immigrants were 15 percent more likely to work unusual hours than similar U.S.-born workers. They are also more likely to be employed in dangerous jobs, according to data from the American Community Survey and Bureau of Statistics.

In addition, the latest jobs report shows the U.S. economy performing strongly enough that it can absorb large numbers of workers, including immigrants.

Immigrants fill those roles in part because they are on average less educated than native-born Americans. About 26 percent have less than a high school degree, compared to 5 percent of native-born workers, according to the Urban Institute. But one in three immigrant workers have a college or advanced degree, a rate on par with Americans born here. Unauthorized immigrants tend to have slightly lower education levels; about 13 percent have college degrees.

There are few professions as dishonest and corrupt as economics. On stackexchange.economics I shredded a report from some hired shill for the dairy industry that claimed milk prices would double if every illegal were deported tomorrow. Using actual data, I proved the price of a gallon of milk would increase, under the worst-case scenario, something like 29 cents. How did all those professional economists respond to this layman's challenge? With stronger economic arguments? Haha. no, they banned me.

 

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Truly stupid post, created by TDS.

What you have then is only the most important jobs getting filled, with a higher pay to benefit Americans, not Mexicans. Why in the hell would we want more people in the country that vote anti-American? More Omars and AOCs? No thanks...

If you feel like there are not enough people in America, go make a baby.

What you have then is only the most important jobs getting filled, with a higher pay to benefit Americans, not Mexicans. Why in the hell would we want more people in the country that vote anti-American? More Omars and AOCs? No thanks...

Not enough white skins among today's migrant population for your taste?

Try putting aside delusions of political and racial superiority and look at other numbers:

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"And the numbers, most economists say, indicate that there is plenty of room.

"Immigrants make the country richer, they argue.

"'Without immigration, we shrink as a nation,' said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former director of the Congressional Budget Office who has advised Republican presidential candidates and now leads the conservative American Action Forum.

"That’s because growth is driven by two ingredients: the size of the work force and how efficiently those workers produce things. And both are creeping well behind the postwar average."

If 50 million Bangladeshis flood into the country tomorrow, yes the "country's" GDP would grow because there would be more people here. But the wages for most Americans would drop, while the very few at the top would be able to get even richer by squeezing even more out of their workers. So, tell us how this growing GDP is such a good thing again?

And your cheap shot at Norman is even worse than your economic ignorance. 50 million Bangladeshis would radically alter the nation politically with unpredictable results, WHITE OR NOT. But then, you knew that, didn't you?

If 50 million Bangladeshis flood into the country tomorrow, yes the "country's" GDP would grow because there would be more people here. But the wages for most Americans would drop, while the very few at the top would be able to get even richer by squeezing even more out of their workers. So, tell us how this growing GDP is such a good thing again?

Why would fifty million Bangladeshisi refugees flood the US?

To escape a Chinese Hoax?

For the cost of manufacturing those propaganda signs that the villagers can't even read, they could have been fed.

For the cost of manufacturing those propaganda signs that the villagers can't even read, they could have been fed.

What makes you think the climate threat they face isn't due to western capitalism?

Here’s Why Capitalism Can’t Fix Climate Change

Here's why globalists can't fix climate change:

The single biggest policy change rich countries could implement to reduce humanity's impact on the climate would be to stop importing people from the low carbon-footprint equator zone to the high-carbon footprint ice zone. But the climate change zealots won't consider that reasonable and doable option because they are globalists ideologically. They seek power, not milder summers.

Turning over important components of national policies like energy consumption policies to supranational organizations increases the globalists' power. Taxing the citizens of rich countries and sending the money off to supranational organizations to "fight climate change" through endless meetings in luxury resorts increases the globalists' power. Diluting the demographic solidarity of individual nations through the mass migration of the exploding populations of sun people to the ancestral lands of the ice people increases the globalists' power. Think the globalists really care about climate change? Just try suggesting an end to immigration, you racist, and see what happens.